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Report: League summons Gregg Williams to New York

File photo of New Orleans Saints' Williams watching his team prepare for NFL football game against Tampa Bay Buccaneers in New Orleans Reuters

Usually, players pay visits to the proverbial principal’s office.  On Monday, Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will make the trek to Manhattan for a meeting with league officials regarding his use of a bounty system in at least one — and reportedly more — NFL cities.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Williams will meet with NFL security officials Jeff Miller and Joe Hummel “for another round of dialogue.”  Williams also may meet with Commissioner Roger Goodell.

Based on the text of the league’s release from Friday regarding the discovery of a bounty program that Williams administered in New Orleans, it’s more than reasonable to conclude that Williams has met with league officials at least twice before.  On at least one occasion, WIlliams — and other coaches and players — said they know nothing about players being paid extra for turnovers and/or kill shots.  On at least one other occasion, Williams came clean.

So why has Williams been summoned to New York on the first business day after the situation publicly came to light?  It probably has something to do with reports that Williams ran a bounty program when serving as the defensive coordinator in Washington and as the head coach in Buffalo.  If, as NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told Tim Graham of the Buffalo News, the league is not aware of bounty systems in other cities, it means that the league either didn’t ask Williams about it, or that Williams didn’t tell.

And if Williams specifically was asked but failed to tell, he undoubtedly faces an extra level of consequences, up to and including banishment from the league.

Surely, Miller and Hummel at some point asked Williams regarding the bounty program in New Orleans, “Is this the extent of it?”  Apparently, Williams said yes.

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76 Responses to “Report: League summons Gregg Williams to New York”
  1. lnfinite says: Mar 4, 2012 8:30 PM

    Make the Saints hand their super bowl trophy back for unsportsmanlike conduct and then ban Williams from ever coaching again. Sanctions like fines or loss of revenue and draft picks are a joke.

  2. mrconnors says: Mar 4, 2012 8:31 PM

    I’d rather this turn into a discussion about spygate and about how spygate helped the Patriots beat the Panthers in the SB. Because remember, the Patriots stole signals from the 1-15 Panthers in 2001, (the last time they played them) and used it against a new coach, QB, and basically team two and a half years later.

    It also helped them beat the Steelers in 2001 (Belichick stole signals from 1996, the last time he faced the Steelers). The Steelers ran the exact same plays and used the exact same signals for 5 years in a row, and it was evidenced in the box score.

    Drew Bledsoe 10-21, 100 yards. Shredded the Steelers D. The Patriots blocked a FG and returned it for a TD, and returned a punt for a TD. 14 points right there because of spygate, LOL. They “knew what was coming” when the Steelers attempted a FG and punted away. Hahaha.

  3. thatobnoxiousguy says: Mar 4, 2012 8:31 PM

    The NFL is becoming way too sissified. All Williams did was institute a bonus system based on performance. His system produced a legitimate championship, which the Patriots still have not produced.

  4. touchdownroddywhite says: Mar 4, 2012 8:37 PM

    They should ban him from the league anyway. When the cat is away the mice will play, but when the cat is the orchestrator it’s time to set the dogs loose.

    On one hand I don’t take much issue with bounties in general. On the other hand I take major issue with team brass endorsing and encouraging it. It’d be like me paying one of my children to whoop some kids arse on the playground…

  5. riverhorsey says: Mar 4, 2012 8:38 PM

    all this begs the question did the owners and GM’s at Washington and Buffalo know and if so what should their penalty be?

  6. phillyphever says: Mar 4, 2012 8:48 PM

    “All Williams did was institute a bonus system based on performance.”

    No, he institute a bonus system based on who can end someone’s career. Performance (sacks, pass deflections, INTs) is one thing, trying to end someone’s career and getting paid for it is another thing.

    BTW, I remember when Synder was getting grief for not promoting Williams to head coach when Gibbs retired in 08. I wonder if he knew something about this.

  7. stoutfiles says: Mar 4, 2012 8:48 PM

    What I want to know is why players aren’t always giving 100% and need these bounties to play harder. If I have players not giving 100% I would trade or cut them.

  8. rajbais says: Mar 4, 2012 8:49 PM

    I’m okay if they implement a one-year suspension for Williams. He will likely lose about $1 million of pay, but that can cripple anyone and commiserate anyone!!!

    Trust me!!!

    The Rams will likely have to promote current DB coach Chuck Cecil to defensive coordinator and either have him multitask or hire another DB coach.

  9. bangreggwilliams says: Mar 4, 2012 8:50 PM

    Goodell is such a gentleman, he didn’t want to break-up with Williams over the phone.

    Adios Gregg.

  10. ninefingers9 says: Mar 4, 2012 8:50 PM

    The effing saints unsportsmanlike conduct cost the Vikings a Super Bowl chance! Dirty bastards!

  11. flaccounibrow says: Mar 4, 2012 8:50 PM

    mrconnors says:Mar 4, 2012 8:31 PM

    I’d rather this turn into a discussion about spygate and about how spygate helped the Patriots beat the Panthers in the SB. Because remember, the Patriots stole signals from the 1-15 Panthers in 2001, (the last time they played them) and used it against a new coach, QB, and basically team two and a half years later.

    It also helped them beat the Steelers in 2001 (Belichick stole signals from 1996, the last time he faced the Steelers). The Steelers ran the exact same plays and used the exact same signals for 5 years in a row, and it was evidenced in the box score.

    Drew Bledsoe 10-21, 100 yards. Shredded the Steelers D. The Patriots blocked a FG and returned it for a TD, and returned a punt for a TD. 14 points right there because of spygate, LOL. They “knew what was coming” when the Steelers attempted a FG and punted away. Hahaha.
    _________________________________
    Let’s instead look at 2004 when the Steelers kicked the patsies butts in the regular season, and the patsies stole their signals and picked Ben off 3 times, and moved the ball with no resistance against the #1 D in the league.
    The Patsies cheated. End of story. The whole bounty story has opened old wounds for all fans who were jobbed by the patsies cheating ways.

  12. johnnyb216 says: Mar 4, 2012 8:51 PM

    I think the NFL should strip the saints of their super bowl and give it to the vikings. That’s probably the best chance the vikings will ever have at getting a title.

  13. dumptrucked says: Mar 4, 2012 8:52 PM

    Anyone saying ‘this is football, get over it’ is a complete idiot. This isn’t about the bounty itself as much as it is about the conflict of interest and culture clash it represents. In an era of player safety awareness and where the league is regularly being sued by ex players for not doing enough to prevent injuries and not doing thier due diligence related to the matter, these practices of Pay for Pain cannot be tolerated. If the league does not act with an extremely heavy and swift hand then their efforts to change the culture and promote player safety will be all for not, and they will open themselves up to a PR and legal nightmare.

  14. dubaradhandi says: Mar 4, 2012 8:53 PM

    People saying pats never won anything….did they stop watching football after 2007. They went twice after that and one of them undefeated and the other they lost only 3 games in total that year. They lost to a Good team on that day. Goodel should have actually fined the other teams for not changing the signal and play calling when pats play them 2nd time. How dumb were these teams. Uh. Btw, how many teams did they played twice during those years to use the video? Also comparing bounty gate…you guys have to be kidding. This could get players killed. No comparison atall.

  15. redbullenergydrink says: Mar 4, 2012 8:53 PM

    thatobnoxiousguy says:
    The NFL is becoming way too sissified. All Williams did was institute a bonus system based on performance. His system produced a legitimate championship, which the Patriots still have not produced.
    —————–
    Only a Saints fan would say that.

  16. fatfreddystubbs says: Mar 4, 2012 8:54 PM

    Report: League summons Gregg Williams to New York
    ————————————————–

    Awwww, that’s nice of them. Maybe he can take in a Broadway show, catch a Rangers game at the Garden, and get a really good Italian dinner.

  17. rcampore says: Mar 4, 2012 8:55 PM

    I can’t take ignorant individuals such as obnoxiousguys continue to not comprehend the extent of this issue.

    This is not about giving bonuses for sacks or interceptions that is outraging fans, it is the fact that he promoted players to cause injury to other players.

    Football players will get injured due to hard hits as that is part of the game, but to go out there with the main intent to injure a guy and possibly end their career is a different story.

    In the real world, it’s the difference between an accident and assault.

  18. lunarpie says: Mar 4, 2012 8:57 PM

    It’s logical for a team to want certain players on the opposing team not to play but, placing bounties and on certain players is borderline criminal. Greg Williams and all of the players involved should be suspended for at least a year and fined heavily if guilty.

  19. supremeomega says: Mar 4, 2012 8:58 PM

    Does this mean The Colts and Manning get ring #2?

  20. snarf1888 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:00 PM

    im sure i heard buffalo were involved in all this somehow, i only mention it because frankly i’d like to see our entire front office suspended for a year or two, this i think would increase our chances of fielding a competitive team. also is it possible to suspend an owner, if so please Mr Goodell give Ralphie a lifetime ban, 6 months or so should do it.

  21. eaglesnoles05 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:01 PM

    I’m tellin’ ya man, this dude is in big trouble. Death penalty from league isn’t probable, but it wouldn’t shock me either with that redhead goon in charge.

  22. mgm36 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:02 PM

    williams – one year suspension from pro-football and $500K fine
    sean payton – 8 game suspension & $750,000K fine
    loomis – one year suspension & $500K fine
    new orleans saints – $1,000,000 fine

  23. mrconnors says: Mar 4, 2012 9:04 PM

    SF in 1994 and Denver in 98/99 cheating the salary cap to keep HOF players? No big deal. A Steelers team doctor being busted with tons of HGH? Who cares. The Panthers roiding up before SB38? Doesn’t matter. The Saints putting bounties on players? It’s part of the game. Miami stealing audibles from the Patriots in 2006? Gamesmanship. Ravens and Raiders cheating in the offseason? No issue with that.

    The Patriots steal signals from a 1-15 Panthers team that proves useless once a new coach and QB are hired and the Panthers go to the SB? TAKE AWAY THE TITLES AND BAN BELICHICK FROM THE LEAGUE FOREVER!!!!

  24. joetoronto says: Mar 4, 2012 9:06 PM

    Everybody loves hard hitting but playing to injure should never be accepted.

    Williams paid extra for injuring opposing players.

    The league has to, and will, come down very hard.

  25. kelvinmchale says: Mar 4, 2012 9:07 PM

    Who dat getting suspended for a year?

  26. stairwayto7 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:10 PM

    Goodell: Mr. Willaims this is not good.

    Williams: I now I messed up.

    Goodell: Have you ever spoke to or came in contact with James Harrison os any other Steeler defenses players.

    Willaims: Yes, When we played them in 2010.

    Goodell: Excellent! Mr Williams you get a 1 game suspension and Harrison gets a year suspension! N

  27. stoneydog1000 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:30 PM

    as a couple of the above comments show- Steeler fans always want to cry about something. Forget the fact that Kimo broke Carson’s knee on the 1st passing play of the ’05 playoffs, which the Steelers went on to win the Super Bowl that year. Bounty?

  28. aljack88 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:30 PM

    supremeomega says:
    Mar 4, 2012 8:58 PM
    Does this mean The Colts and Manning get ring #2?
    ———————————————————
    Eli got #2. The (Indy) Colts will only have the 1.

  29. mrslay1 says: Mar 4, 2012 10:00 PM

    Harrison should have been expeled in the Super Bowl against Arizona! But life is not fair anywhere. Give this scumb bag Williams what he deserves! Let him stand on the 50 yard line and let everyone who was injured because of him get a few free shots at his knees!

  30. jarobinewsome says: Mar 4, 2012 10:02 PM

    It’s a wrap for Williams…but what about the players that participated?
    Just sayin!!

  31. natefalkirk says: Mar 4, 2012 10:08 PM

    @ thatobnoxiousguy:

    Please. I love how the Saints deliberately seeking to hurt other teams brings out all the Pat haters. I am a Pats fan, and I don’t defend the taping of other teams. Sure others do it, but that’s never an excuse. Get pulled over speeding, don’t bother telling the cop about someone else speeding more. You got caught. Deal with it.

    That said, the Saints issue is way worse. Like Spygate, bounties are illegal, like Spygate it possibly affects the outcome of the game, but unlike Spygate, this could leave a guy busted up and without a career.

    You must be a Jets fan. At least we Pats GET to the SB.

  32. TSizzleBallSoHard says: Mar 4, 2012 10:09 PM

    Time for the boot! Get this scum out of the league for good!

  33. whatevnfl says: Mar 4, 2012 10:09 PM

    It’s hard to say what other teams would have known about Williams. He didn’t even tell Coach Gibbs about the formation he was going to run to honor Sean Taylor. In Buffalo he was the head coach with no one over-seeing him….I highly doubt Ralph Wilson had any idea or would have approved. It sounds like bounties or players throwing in money for sacks or interceptions or even a big (clean) hit are a part of many locker rooms. But it also sounds like Williams was aggressive and over the line with it. His players probably thought that was a normal way to get them fired up…some of them have voiced they thought that was the norm until they went to a new team or a new coach came in. That’s why I think Williams has to the one held accountable, he set the culture and tone and was even giving his own funds.

  34. bmeagles71 says: Mar 4, 2012 10:22 PM

    Williams is done

  35. stairwayto7 says: Mar 4, 2012 10:28 PM

    stoneydog1000 says:Mar 4, 2012 9:30 PM

    as a couple of the above comments show- Steeler fans always want to cry about something. Forget the fact that Kimo broke Carson’s knee on the 1st passing play of the ’05 playoffs, which the Steelers went on to win the Super Bowl that year. Bounty?
    ———————————————————-
    I guess you did not watch that Steeler-Bungal game. Kimo was pushed into Palmer by the Bungals off lineman and Kimo stayed back to see if he was alright while the off lineman took off down field! and Palmer still completed pass. Kitna led the Bungals to a 10-0 lead and could not hold onto it.

  36. cmr123 says: Mar 4, 2012 11:09 PM

    WILLIAMS should know by now it is touch football. da

  37. umrguy42 says: Mar 4, 2012 11:13 PM

    As much as it hurts my Rams, they need to fire Williams NOW.

  38. ramjam28 says: Mar 4, 2012 11:24 PM

    It will be revealed at this meeting when he comes clean that he gave bounties to Bernard Pollard to take out the Patriots over the last 5 years…

  39. cherokeestt says: Mar 4, 2012 11:25 PM

    Williams needs to be banned from football for life. This is about men’s lives, not just their livelihood. Grow a sac Rog and get rid of him.

  40. 1liondriven says: Mar 4, 2012 11:30 PM

    Why should Williams go to New York?

    What is in it for him?

    He is done in the NFL.

    I would stay home, maybe call an attorney.

  41. scomibord says: Mar 4, 2012 11:35 PM

    Buh-bye g dub, hope you enjoyed your career

  42. lanjoith says: Mar 4, 2012 11:35 PM

    Stop with the ludicrous banishment talk. It’s almost as dumb as suggesting the NFL take away the Saints franchise tag.

    If Michael Vick can lie about his involvement in dog fighting and be responsible for many dog deaths and Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth can kill people while under the influence of alcohol and be let back into the league then Williams should be as well. It’s not like Williams was gambling on football. Suspend him 8 games without pay and fine him the maximum allowed and move on.

  43. Little Earthquake says: Mar 4, 2012 11:48 PM

    For the ’09 NFCCG, he should have just organized a pool on when the costly Favre INT would happen and who would get it.

  44. bodeee1975 says: Mar 5, 2012 12:23 AM

    Holy smokes some folks are way tooo angry…… I personally have never liked Gregg Williams, he has as far back as I can remember been known as a dude with a serious chip on his shoulder….That being said, lets get real, I dont see how the league can ban this guy for life…..Goodell has a real hard on for coming off as this tough as nails dude when it comes to certain things, I still cant see him handing down more than say an 8 game suspension…All of us get on here and rant and in our minds think our opinions matter , which in actuality most people read our comments and think we sound like idiots , Some of us do a good job of amusing other folks with insanely idiotic babble… I think this Goodell bozo is completely full of himself and has taking this cracking down crap way tooo far, I never ever thought Id utter the words I MISS PAUL TAGLIABUE…UGGGGHHHH ……. on a side note that Mr.Connor dude is a very delusional person apparently who cant quite get over his panthers losing a superbowl…JESUS MAN –It has been awhile now its really kinda funny hearing ya cry around about it…SPYGATE WAS TERRIBLY OVERBLOWN…..GO LOOK IT UP FOLKS , Go see what guys like Ditka, Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, etc had to say about spygate, and the same shouls be said about this silly BOUNTYGATE thing…and if Belichick ever comes up missing I think Im gonna think that cat mr. connors finally snapped, if anyone actually knows him, they may wanna suggest a shrink !!

  45. mianfr says: Mar 5, 2012 12:32 AM

    Also, how about this:

    Everyone involved loses his NFL Pension.

    If the object of the pension is to provide for people who are too hurt and beaten by a career in football to live a normal life…

    And these people were actively trying to cause that…

    Why not remove them from the pension?

  46. ricksaints says: Mar 5, 2012 12:43 AM

    I didn’t know that they were so many female football fans. There must be with all this whining that is going on. Wwwwaaaaa!!!!!!
    This is not the first time this has happened people. Saints are just guilty of being caught. And since the media blows everything up cough cough teabow, Lin. This is turning into a bigger story. for all these football “fans” that are so into gossip should change the Channel and watch TMZ.

  47. commonsensedude says: Mar 5, 2012 12:47 AM

    Whatever Roger Goodell has in store for Gregg Williams is probably nothing compared to the reality that he’s now going to be a defendant in a bunch of lawsuits for ex-players who claim that they were injured as a result of playing a Williams-coached team whose players were motivated by a bounty to go below the belt. Including …. Peyton Manning, whose neck injury may have started as the result of a 2006 game against the Redskins (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/31844/did-manning-injury-stem-from-bounty).

    Gregg, watch your back, man. The lawyers are coming after you and they look hungry. Oh, crap – it’s Gloria Allred coming straight at you – and she’s unblocked!!!

  48. couldntthinkofaname says: Mar 5, 2012 12:48 AM

    Loving the Saints fans defending this by bringing up Spygate. Not a Pats fan, but really? Bounties to injure players is a lesser crime than stealing some signals.

    Wow. Homerism is alive and well.

  49. daknight93 says: Mar 5, 2012 12:52 AM

    welcome to the NFFL…national flag football league under roger goodell…NFL will die in 10yrs thanks to Greg Williams, defensive players will be abused severely by offenses now after Goodell gets thru with Greg Williams.

  50. jr4real says: Mar 5, 2012 12:53 AM

    So many jealous steelers haters here!

    First off. Mrconner, the steelers played the pats in week 7 of 2001. Stole the signals then. Face it, pats cheated their way to 3 sb wins.

    And kimo vs bungles? Cincy was up 17-10 at halftime. You fell for a fleaflicker. Thats why your team stunk.

    Get over yourselves.

    Williams needs lifetime ban.

  51. bodeee1975 says: Mar 5, 2012 1:42 AM

    My goodness I had to go back and read the comment by the user who agreed with the mr. connors dude…..He brought up the steelers getting JOBBED as he said by the Patriots, some examples were they blocked a FG and returned it for a touchdown and returned a punt for a touchdown….MY GOD all you folks cant be serious about this spygate crap……THERE IS NO WAY they gained that much information about a team by spying…Whatever happened to players still gotta make plays, where is that notion at…..My GOD some fans take this whole their team winning and losing thing toooo serious, somebody has to lose, sometimes even good players have a bad game …..I love my team but lets get real I dont know a tenth of what it takes to play in the NFL or coach or run a team….When my team loses sure it sucks but I am in the real world and I know that it had zero to do with me ….. Sportswriters, fans , everybody is so quick to try and figure out why teams are no good and bash players and coaches and blame losses on silly junk , thats easy to do but you can bet there arent very many folks on these message boards…. myself included who could go out and compete with even the bottom of the barrell practice squad player ..

  52. goawayeverybody says: Mar 5, 2012 1:49 AM

    Here is what will occur imho:

    Sean Payton and Gregg Williams get hit with a $500,000 fine.

    The Saints sacrifice their second rounder this year and first rounder next year.

    Sean Payton is suspended for four games (I think).

    Gregg Williams is banned for 3 years.

    I don’t know what would happen to Mickey Loomis, maybe a half year suspension.

    Personally, since Belichick wasn’t supsended for openly cheating for years and years (not only on the Patriots but on other teams as well), I don’t feel Payton should be suspended.

  53. shawnschaeffer says: Mar 5, 2012 2:07 AM

    have been hearing all week about nfl coaches paying bounties for sacks and other hard hits. And people have been pissed about it. I just dot get the difference between this and giving a guy an incentive laden contract that pays more for sacks. Which almost every defensive player in the league has.

    And while many will say the difference is the intent to hurt or injure. Really? Thats not the goal every sunday for a dend? He gets paid to manhandle the quarterback and take him out of his game. Often times picking up bounases built into his contract for amasing more sacks and qb hits. Take Jason Babin. Two years ago when he got to Tenesee he signed a small contract that paid him well if he hit a certain sack number and made the pro bowl. Or in other words the more times he hit the opposing tems qb the more he got paid. How is that not the exact same thing. The only difference is the league does not control the bountie system and therefore are not happy because it breaks their monopoly of power.

  54. carpetpissers says: Mar 5, 2012 2:07 AM

    A picture has never said as many words.

  55. gimmeabruschi says: Mar 5, 2012 2:08 AM

    flaccounibrow says: Mar 4, 2012 8:50 PM

    Let’s instead look at 2004 when the Steelers kicked the patsies butts in the regular season, and the patsies stole their signals and picked Ben off 3 times, and moved the ball with no resistance against the #1 D in the league.
    The Patsies cheated. End of story. The whole bounty story has opened old wounds for all fans who were jobbed by the patsies cheating ways.

    _______________________________

    You’re a crybaby. You lost. Get over it. End of story.

  56. gimmeabruschi says: Mar 5, 2012 2:18 AM

    mgm36 says: Mar 4, 2012 9:02 PM

    williams – one year suspension from pro-football and $500K fine
    sean payton – 8 game suspension & $750,000K fine
    loomis – one year suspension & $500K fine
    new orleans saints – $1,000,000 fine

    __________________________________

    You forgot losing the two first round draft picks.

  57. mgm36 says: Mar 5, 2012 2:39 AM

    some of these comments are totally bizzare. take away the saints super bowl trophy? this is not the ncaa. banish him for life? that may happen.

  58. seldom1 says: Mar 5, 2012 4:04 AM

    “Forget the fact that Kimo broke Carson’s knee on the 1st passing play of the ’05 playoffs, which the Steelers went on to win the Super Bowl that year. Bounty?”—stoneydog100

    “Harrison should have been expelled in the Super Bowl against Arizona! “—mtslay1

    Add to that the injuries, all accidental of course, Harrison caused to Colt McCoy, Joshua Cribbs, Mo Massaquoi, and others. He was fined at least six times the last two years and suspended. Cribbs and Massaquoi have never regained their old abilities, and nobody knows how McCoy will respond this year.

    And don’t forget that Harrison was the replacement for another Steeler’s goon, Joey Porter.

    If the League wants to get serious about players that injure other players, it shouldn’t look at just The Saints and Skins.

  59. waxedagain says: Mar 5, 2012 4:27 AM

    Does the NFL have rules for stripping a Lombardi due to fraud? Surely the Saints were attempting to knock Farve from the NFCCG , a

  60. mitchitized says: Mar 5, 2012 4:36 AM

    What everyone *should* be asking is how many other teams are doing the same thing?

    Part of what made Spygate bigger than it really was is that the Patriots were one of very few (if not the only) teams that taped with someone outside the approved area. That made them easy to single out, and the mobs formed quickly…

    This time around? Not sure you are going to find a single team that does NOT participate in some sort of scheme like this, whether it is instituted by coaches, assistants or players. IMHO it will be hypocritical for Goodell to throw the book at these guys with possibly 80% (or more?) of the entire league doing the same thing to some extent.

    Should it stop? Of course! I’m just not so sure that severe punishment is warranted if they are just one of 32 teams that do it, and happened to be the ones that got caught.

  61. mrconnors says: Mar 5, 2012 4:45 AM

    First off, jr4real, the Patriots played the Broncos in week 7 of the 2001 season. They didn’t play the Steelers at all that season until the AFCGG. They hadn’t played the Steelers since 1998, and as I said, Belichick himself had not faced the Steelers since 1996. I’m still wondering where all these magical signals came from.

    Bodeee1975, oh brother. I was being sarcastic. I didn’t think I needed to clarify that. That’s why I was joking about “knowing what was coming” when the Patriots scored two special teams TD’s. But Steelers fans don’t get it. They are convinced that Drew Bledsoe throwing for a measly 100 yards and the Patriots scoring 14 points off ST’s is because of spygate.

  62. m1mplax39 says: Mar 5, 2012 5:51 AM

    Lets get a pool going to see if he shows up

  63. kingpel says: Mar 5, 2012 5:58 AM

    C’mon, the images of the Saints battering Brett Favre will forever be one of the greatest football Sundays.

    Thank you, Mr. Williams.

  64. catman72 says: Mar 5, 2012 6:30 AM

    he should be banned for life

  65. EJ says: Mar 5, 2012 7:20 AM

    riverhorsey says:
    Mar 4, 2012 8:38 PM
    all this begs the question did the owners and GM’s at Washington and Buffalo know and if so what should their penalty be?

    Buffalo has already come forth and stated that they knew nothing about this bounty program. I’m sure that the big boys atop of the Saints and Washington didn’t see this going on either. It seems as if the only one’s that did know were Williams and his defensive players.

    Though I do not agree with paying players to injure others, I do not think anyone other than Williams should be punished.
    Gregg Williams should at the least be suspended for a season, I don’t think banishment from the NFL is the right answer.

  66. patcheatiots says: Mar 5, 2012 7:20 AM

    How can the Bounty System compare to Video Taping Signals As McVideo and the Patsies did.
    They Lost a Draft Pick… Oooooh Look at the past years of Patsies draft 80% are not in the league.
    and Belicheat Fined $500K and The Devil Kraft $250,000.
    So Now Goodell Is Going to Suspend the Saints for 2012 … No Friggen Way.
    Go After Williams and make him Pay for being the Ring Leader…

    Shame On The Patriots…
    Tainted * Superbowls that the Commissioner let happen.

  67. fixedgame says: Mar 5, 2012 7:25 AM

    How about the Ref’s. Where were they. Looking the other way

  68. stl45fan says: Mar 5, 2012 7:46 AM

    Did you order the “CODE RED”? You Darn Right I ordered the “CODE RED”!

  69. giants56 says: Mar 5, 2012 7:57 AM

    Sean Payton is a PUNK…..I guess there will be an “unofficial bounty” on ALL the Saints this year!

  70. jjmurphy1127d says: Mar 5, 2012 8:02 AM

    Spy Gate will look like a speeding ticket compared to Bounty Gate after the penalites are handed down on this one. And rightfully so…

  71. aljack88 says: Mar 5, 2012 8:18 AM

    The real issue is that the NFL office has said in the past and made rules forbidding the use of paid bounties. Ironically, the Packers were investigated back in 2007 over the same issues.

    Blatantly defying what the head of the league wants will bring forth strong punishments, as he has demonstrated in the past. If Belichick was stupid for ignoring Goodell’s memo prior to the 2007 season about video taping from certain areas of the playing field, how stupid are team officials since then who violate NFL policy knowing how severe the penalties will be?

  72. johnster67 says: Mar 5, 2012 8:38 AM

    Why wasn’t there this big a stink when Buddy Ryan was doing the same thing in Chicago, Philadelphia and Arizona in the early Nineties. Troy Aikman and Jimmy Johnson can tell you all about that.

  73. rockthered1286 says: Mar 5, 2012 8:39 AM

    All Saints fans: “well…what about Spygate?” as an effort to distract, or “EVERY team is doing it” when they have zero justification or means of proving that statement to be truth.

    Fact: Saints were busted. Partiuclarly Greg Williams, as it followed him back to 2 other teams. No other team has been busted for financially compensating players for taking players out of the game.

    Will Williams see the harshest discipline? Absolutely, but for Saints fans to say ‘everyone else is doing it so it’s no big deal’ is simply ludicris. You were caught red handed, take the punishment your team deserves. If it were say the Falcons you’d be up in arms about it not ‘oh well, its part of the game they all do it.’ and I dare you to say otherwise.

  74. footbal1q says: Mar 5, 2012 8:46 AM

    Why not donate the bounty to charity ?

  75. really2011 says: Mar 5, 2012 9:19 AM

    So from a Saints fan – the bounty issue is wrong. Not sure that it really creates a competitve advantage though – as evidence by 2 of 3 years being ranked in the mid 20′s in Def. Additionally, let’s be real, the Saints Def has been anything other than hard hitting, in fact they suck.

    Nonetheless, Loomis should be fired (hate to say it because he does a good job). hefty fines for Payton and all players involved and loss of draft picks.

    Now that we have that out of the way. The fan reaction is very interesting. I get it- beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Let’s face it, Saints fans will find a way to be ok with this and focus on the fact that it happens in some form or fashion all over the league. Saint’s haters will react in the opposite extreme and demand bans, vacating Championships, etc. Football fans will find the sub-culture disturbing but understand (like all of the players and coaches on record) that it’s a violent sport and (bounty or not) every week someone is trying to remove the other team’s best player from the field.

    Bottom Line: Many do it – Saints got caught – Saints are the poster child for the punishment. The big deal to me is how can the NFL take a stand on player safety and ultimately integrity, but allow officials to continue to work each weekend when they “allow” the output of bounties to happen with no flags or ejections. Sounds to me like the league is really ok with it or it really is being over dramatized – your choice.

    Gotta love the NFL – a new addition to the wall of shame each year… Pretty close to 50% of the league off the top of my head.

    Saints Bounty
    Redskins Bounty
    Bills Bounty
    Oilers/Titans Bounty
    Vikings Loveboat
    Steelers Rape
    Packers Rape
    Falcons Dog Fighting
    Dallas Drugs
    Jets Sexual Harassment
    Patriots Spygate
    Ravens Murder
    Bengals Criminals
    Raiders Steroids

  76. geauxmez says: Mar 5, 2012 4:33 PM

    In my (key word) opinion: Williams and Loomis should be the ONLY ones who are penalized (more than likely a fine) by the NFL. Players are taught from peewee league to “listen to coach.” In my eyes, it’s simply an abuse of authority.

    As far as accepting money… lets be honest. Compared to a normal players salary, a couple thousand bucks is pocket change. Leave that to the IRS, if they please.

    There is no reason to rip the throat out of an entire city, when questionable actions are held in every clubs locker room.

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