Despite being a bit prissy – he’s an ok guy – until he starts to try to hard to be the show. Then he tanks.

Benson knew about this. The league told him in 2009. But that doesn’t mean he’s off the hook. Owners know what is going on with their team. Anyone think that Jerry Jones all the way down to the less hands on Robert Kraft don’t know what goes on with their teams? If you buy that I’ve got a lovely Condo on the moon up for sale that I would let you have real cheap. Excellent scenic views, no smog, and not a single neighbor for miles.

Oh and to the tards that think Young tanked in Tampa… you obviously never saw the Bucs during Young’s career there. Jimmy Raye couldn’t call a good game if the Bucs (or the 9ers) offered a lifetime supply of Depends and the Runner up in the Miss America contest to help him change em.

Young is correct though. If this goes all the way to the top, and depending on how many names are on the bounty list Players could definitely sue.

This issue goes far beyond just playing good hard-nosed football. It’s about safety and image, but I don’t expect you guys to be able to wrap primitive brains around that.

Gregg Williams needs to be banned, the GM fired, and Payton should be gone as well. In addition to the loss of draft picks, Drew Brees should be able to be “de-franchised” and take his services somewhere else

Well, then you open a whole new can of worms. What about fighting in hockey? What about a pitcher hitting a batter on purpose? What about MMA and boxing? What about intentionally wrecking someone in racing? You want to separate all those clearly intentional assaults from that are just “part of the game” from guys that are paid to make tackles on every single play? How is making a tackle somehow more criminal? James Harrison doesn’t need a bounty to try to end careers and everyone seems happy to just see him pay a fine, over and over and over and over.

So what’s the Vegas line on the before or after date that the feeble minded vikequeef twit fans file a lawsuit against the Saints for undue psychological hardship suffered from the ’09′ NFCCG.
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Oh just shut up, psycho.

Regarding Steve Young’s comments, however, that was one of the first things I thought of when the bounty news broke — that players from all over the league (not just the Vikings — get the freaking name right gb4mno, you twit) might line up for a payout from the Saints if they were injured while playing them. As another poster said, everyone now knows they played with a bounty system during those years, and in some jurors’ minds, that’s all they’ll need to know.

I can’t believe how many NFL fans agree with this idea. It’s crazy!

First how do you differentiate between an injury caused by a bounty and one that would have happened anyway?

And more troubling to me is that people don’t see what kind of a pandora’s box this could open. This would be such a negative for the NFL that the league as we know it would cease to exist. The NFL would no longer be the number one sport in America.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

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Only one real difference, I guess: intent. Of course, that is the difference between murder, manslaughter and justifiable homicide as well.

When players who chose to play a sport that is physical and violent get hurt, that is part of the game. When a person goes on to the field with the sole intent of hurting another person, they aren’t playing football. They are committing a crime.

No, we can’t know each individual player’s intent when their play injures another player. But we can know the intent of the players who cashed the check after injuring a player, and we can know the intent of a coach who offers to pay a player to hurt another player. The fact that they don’t get why it is a crime doesn’t excuse them from the fact that they deliberately chose to offer money to a person to hurt another person.

This is no pandora’s box: it will be very difficult to prove intent 99% of the time. In this case, intent is established. If the league doesn’t make a clear statement that this kind of activity is NOT OK, they will be legally culpable for the next time.

 No he’s more bitter about Lawrence Phillips whiffing on the block of AW. Lawrence Phillips sucks. Get your football facts straight.

Oh and… I always hated you and still do.

Yeah youre going to suffer injuries. So after the whistle is blown,the ball is on the ground, and people are getting to their feet, its ok to grab a guys foot and roll your huge body into his knee and (watch closely next season to the piles) grimace and contort as you yank back with all your might on his leg? It is not ok. It is not ok to do that.

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Except no one is advocating that. Point out one person advocating that.

At what point do you draw the line between illegal-in-football-but-legal-in-life hits and illegal-in-football-and-in-life hits? If I walk up to someone on the street and hit them with a perfect form tackle, that’s assault. Yet these guys do it on a field and it’s legal. So you have to draw the line where football stops and life takes over. If anything the Saints did could lead to legal action, then James Harrison better be the next guy sued after all the concussions he’s caused on illegal hits to the helmet. And then next should be Bernard Pollard who went low on Brady and also tore Welker’s ACL. And from there we can continue down the slippery slope.

Sueing the NFL is going to be quite difficult for those that are saying its going to get ugly. The prosecution would have to prove that the upper echelon of the NFL new about these bounties and allowed it to continue and that my friends isn’t happening unless several top NFL members step forward like the 20+ players that have confirmed these bounties issued by Gregg Williams… So until they do, there is no cause for concern

several articles have pointed to the fact that this is not just breaking an NFL rule. Law enforcement could get into play just because this can be considered assault and battery with an explicit intent to injure (which is precisely what Vilma wanted to do).

I think it’s pathetic that teams think that the only way to win is get a player off the field. I guess they don’t feel that they could win with theirs (and opponents) best players on the field, not to mention you are messing with someone’s ability to earn income.

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You have to be naive if you think every defense’s goal *isn’t* to knock the opposition’s best players out of the game.
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Maybe i am naive but the intent of the game is to stop the other team from advancing and scoring on you while you score.
It’s not to knock people out and injure.
Do you realize you are messing with someone’s future (i.e. livelihood)?

Before you say that the sign up for that, they did not. The bounty system would encourage people to do helmet to helmet hit to knock someone out even if they would incur a fine.

I for one, would rather see Manning play at a high level for longer not get injured.

Also, I’m pretty sure no one is a lawyer on this board. Young’s opinion carries more weight.
Many articles have pointed that this could become a law enforcement issue.

Anybody hear of Ronnie Lott by the way?

@ tdk24

several articles have pointed to the fact that this is not just breaking an NFL rule. Law enforcement could get into play just because this can be considered assault and battery with an explicit intent to injure (which is precisely what Vilma wanted to do).

I think it’s pathetic that teams think that the only way to win is get a player off the field. I guess they don’t feel that they could win with theirs (and opponents) best players on the field, not to mention you are messing with someone’s ability to earn income.

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You have to be naive if you think every defense’s goal *isn’t* to knock the opposition’s best players out of the game.

Geesh: What do you think the standard is for average hits in the NFL? Probably quie a bit harder than what most peple take getting mugged in an alley.

I also dare Young to try and prove any injuries happened due to anything but the act of playing professional football. Should Colt McCoy also sue James Harrison for the concussion he received due to an illegal hit?

This just makes absolutely no sense. If you sign up to play football, you’re *going* to suffer injuries. And I don’t see how you can prove a bounty caused it.

several articles have pointed to the fact that this is not just breaking an NFL rule. Law enforcement could get into play just because this can be considered assault and battery with an explicit intent to injure (which is precisely what Vilma wanted to do).

I think it’s pathetic that teams think that the only way to win is get a player off the field. I guess they don’t feel that they could win with theirs (and opponents) best players on the field, not to mention you are messing with someone’s ability to earn income.

First how do you differentiate between an injury caused by a bounty and one that would have happened anyway?

And more troubling to me is that people don’t see what kind of a pandora’s box this could open. This would be such a negative for the NFL that the league as we know it would cease to exist. The NFL would no longer be the number one sport in America.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

So what’s the Vegas line on the before or after date that the feeble minded vikequeef twit fans file a lawsuit against the Saints for undue psychological hardship suffered from the ’09′ NFCCG.

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The first lawsuit would be to close the border with Wisconsin and keep you inbreds out of the US…
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So you’re admitting there will be a forthcoming lawsuit by you feeble minded vikequeef twit fans against the Saints?

FYI, I was born in MN.