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Greg Blache: I knew about Williams’s bounties, but Gibbs didn’t

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Former Redskins assistant coach Greg Blache has confirmed the report that he disliked and discontinued the bounties that his old colleague Gregg Williams oversaw in Washington. And Blache also bolstered Joe Gibbs’s claim that he knew nothing about it.

Blache was the Redskins’ defensive line coach from 2004 to 2007, when Gibbs was head coach and Williams was defensive coordinator. Blache then took over as defensive coordinator in 2008, after Gibbs and Williams both left. Blache confirmed to the Washington Post that he was aware of Williams’s actions, but he wouldn’t offer any specific details. He did say, however, that Gibbs knew nothing about it.

I assure you, he had no idea of what was happening,” Blache said. “If he had, he would have put a stop to it.”

Some might find it hard to believe that Gibbs wouldn’t know this was happening on his team, but Gibbs always put all of his focus on the offense and delegated everything on defense to his assistants. So his plea of ignorance is plausible.

What is harder to understand is that Blache says he didn’t approve of what Williams was doing, and that Gibbs would have stopped it, and yet in four seasons Blache never told Gibbs. Blache hasn’t explained why he sat there and said nothing while Williams was offering money for, in the words of some former Redskins players, “kill shots.”

All Blache wants to say now is that he strongly defends Gibbs’ integrity.

“The only reason I’m talking at all is that I don’t want to see a man like Joe Gibbs get pulled down into the muck of this because Joe Gibbs did not know,” Blache said. “The whole situation, the way this is all coming out, is unfortunate. But to have anyone think Joe Gibbs knew, or to accuse Joe Gibbs to be part and parcel to it, is just totally wrong. People who know me know I don’t put my name on a lot of things. But I know for a fact that he didn’t know, so I’ll put my name to this.”

To the extent that blame for bounties will spread from New Orleans to Washington, it sounds like everyone in Washington will pin all the blame on Williams.

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48 Responses to “Greg Blache: I knew about Williams’s bounties, but Gibbs didn’t”
  1. whatnojets says: Mar 6, 2012 9:53 AM

    You just can’t trust a Redskin…..Where is Custer when we need him???

  2. lgbarn says: Mar 6, 2012 9:58 AM

    And this is why so many coaches today are control freaks.

  3. pike573 says: Mar 6, 2012 9:58 AM

    Uh he didn’t say anything because he wanted to keep his job.

  4. nebster21 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:00 AM

    I think the blame should follow any where that Williams was. Strip the teams of any accolades that they got.

    Oh wait, I am sure the penalty was called in the game against the team if something was done wrong. Because the Refs are perfect according to the NFL.

    So nothing should happen to any team. If the refs saw something against the rules they threw a flag.

  5. timtheenchanter1 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:00 AM

    “What is harder to understand is that Blache says he didn’t approve of what Williams was doing, and that Gibbs would have stopped it, and yet in four seasons Blache never told Gibbs. Blache hasn’t explained why he sat there and said nothing while Williams was offering money for, in the words of some former Redskins players, “kill shots.””

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    Lots of people bite their tongue and do things they consider inappropriate or stretching the boundaries of acceptable (or even outright criminal) when their boss tells them “this is how things will be done.” Being a whistle blower, or quitting over an institutional policy infraction (particularly one you might think is minor) takes a lot of courage and most people simply won’t do it. If he considered it unseemly, but not worth losing a 6-figure job over, I could see someone being willing to ride it out rather than blow the whistle.. Especially if it could get you a reputation in a tight-knit industry that makes you unemployable. Is it the totally moral and righteous thing to do? No, but it’s not uncommon.

    And as for not telling Gibbs, sometimes going over your bosses head to rat him out is worse for your long-term career prospects than confronting your boss directly about it.

  6. lordfontleroy says: Mar 6, 2012 10:02 AM

    Now we know why Williams didn’t get the HC job in Washington

  7. Stupid Raiders Fan says: Mar 6, 2012 10:04 AM

    Translation: Joe Gibbs knew.

  8. imsorrybojackson says: Mar 6, 2012 10:05 AM

    Gibbs should have known. This isn’t the product of an effective management style based on delegating specific duties. It’s an indictment. Gibbs is a legend, but he was no longer equipped to do the job of an HC. This reminds me of how Wade Phillips didn’t know the in-game down and distance (or any of the offensive schemes, for the matter) while in Dallas. Good men, but they were done as head coaches.

  9. hendawg21 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:08 AM

    It’s amazing how some see it one way and other’s another…makes you want to think if the player or coach were cut and or let go there was a bounty however, the other side says something different??? I mean come on there are guys you have no problem believing and then there’s the ex-player/coach who still has an axe to grind. The big issue here isn’t whether Williams did it in Buffalo, Tennessee, Jacksonville or Washington doesn’t matter now…he’s on the hot seat for being busted in New Orleans! And as Charles Barkely stated you have to be punk to rat him out, and i’m sick of these anonymous (person) man up put yourself out there.

  10. bison4me says: Mar 6, 2012 10:09 AM

    I really can’t wait until the 13th comes and FA starts. So we won’t have to read or hear about this crap anymore. I can’t believe your bringing up a coach who’s been retired for five years into this mess. I guess tomorrow it will be Buddy Ryan followed by Chuck Noll then John Madden. Please stop with this non-story. #OMGWhoTheHellCares

  11. infectorman says: Mar 6, 2012 10:10 AM

    interesting:

    wonder what Sean Payton’s punishment will be?
    As DC, Gregg Williams reported directly to him, and as a HC, he is supposed to be “on top of” everything going on with that team. Ultimately he is responsible for all of his direct reports. Or at least he is supposed to be.
    He certainly has come a LONG WAY since winning the SB and has drastically increased his NFL coaching cache as a result of winning the SB…

    I do believe he won’t be coaching this year….at all

  12. philsbirdsflyers says: Mar 6, 2012 10:11 AM

    Bounties appear to be more prevalent than anyone would have guessed; and since Gregg Williams was one of its most blatant offenders, it’s only logical that he and his colleagues set the punishment precedent. Genuinely sucks for Saints fans – Goodell has no choice but to bring down the hammer..

  13. dohpey28 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:11 AM

    If you like and need your job, you do not violate the chain of command. Yeah Gibbs would’ve told Williams to stop it, and then he would’ve made Blache’s life a living hell for going over his head. He also would’ve lost the respect of the locker room as a ‘snitch’.

    I understand why he didn’t say anything.

  14. viceburgh says: Mar 6, 2012 10:13 AM

    What is harder to understand is that Blache says he didn’t approve of what Williams was doing, and that Gibbs would have stopped it, and yet in four seasons Blache never told Gibbs. Blache hasn’t explained why he sat there and said nothing while Williams was offering money for, in the words of some former Redskins players, “kill shots.”
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    Simple…because no one likes a rat.

  15. bigbadal21 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:14 AM

    All over the league there has been some sort of “bounty” going on. But here is the difference about the Saints. The Saints included outside money from both the coach and an outsider with questionable character. If money is put into a pot from the players only, like most people believe has happened on other teams then the salary cap does not come into question. When outside money enters the “pot” you have IRS implications and salary cap violations. The Saints have also took it to a higher level by rewarding hits to knock out players. Here is the question we must ask ourselves–Is it okay for teammates to throw money into a pool and give it to players who get interceptions or fumble recoveries? To the players this is just their form of an office pool. I personally think the line is crossed when you win the pool by knocking a player out of the game and when outside money enters the pool. But that’s just my opinion.

  16. bigbadal21 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:17 AM

    @whatnotjets–If you’re looking for Custer to save you from the Redskins, you’re backing the wrong guy.

  17. derfshambeaux says: Mar 6, 2012 10:19 AM

    What do you mean it’s hard to understand why Blache never told Gibbs? If you’re an assistant coach looking to become a coordinator or a head coach some day, you’re probably don’t want to do anything to alienate yourself from your colleagues.

  18. turgidsen says: Mar 6, 2012 10:22 AM

    whatnojets says:
    Mar 6, 2012 9:53 AM
    You just can’t trust a Redskin…..Where is Custer when we need him???
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    Where is a brain when you need it ? Should be lifeguards on some gene pools.

  19. pftrocks says: Mar 6, 2012 10:22 AM

    Apparently Greg Blache wasn’t too bothered by the bounties to tell anyone in the league office of them, much less Joe Gibbs or anyone else on staff.
    Whats the next story….Greg Williams putting a bounty on coaches if they snitched?
    This is getting sillier by the minute!

  20. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Mar 6, 2012 10:27 AM

    bull crap he didn’t know about it.

  21. thesportgenius says: Mar 6, 2012 10:31 AM

    The HC is responsible for what goes on in the locker room. I find it hard to believe he didn’t have a clue.

  22. skum01 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:31 AM

    Fits with known facts. Gibbs gave full autonomy to his DC’s and did not know that his defense would start 10 players as a tribute to Sean Taylor on the first play of their next game.

  23. deadmanwalking47 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:35 AM

    You just can’t trust a Redskin…..Where is Custer when we need him???
    _______________________________________

    when the jets get a coach that has the class of joe gibbs,make sure you let us know please!

  24. katrinasafterbirth says: Mar 6, 2012 10:43 AM

    For what it’s worth, Joe Gibbs once also stated, “Dexter Manley may be the smartest player to ever play for the Redskins.”

    In which Manley gave his now infamous reply (which was in writing), “Iam fankful 4 da comet.”

  25. jamaltimore says: Mar 6, 2012 10:47 AM

    More good news for the deadskins! They deserve everything they get and if they don’t get the same penalties as the Saints do it’s a crime.

  26. thatobnoxiousguy says: Mar 6, 2012 10:48 AM

    No damn excuse. If you are in charge then it’s your responsibility to know whats going on.
    PERIOD.

    Redskins, just as guilty as the Saints. They should receive the same punishment.

  27. justbhouse2 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:52 AM

    To believe Gibbs was oblivious to what was happening with half of his team means he was not on top of his job. Greg Blanche should have never commented because no matter much spin he tries, ultimately, he has outed Gibbs as naive (does anyone believe that the players were quiet receiving their bounty) or absent of memory since he’s such a principled man.

  28. baddegg says: Mar 6, 2012 10:54 AM

    Cue the “say goodbye to RGIII” remarks…

  29. The Prophet says: Mar 6, 2012 11:01 AM

    plausable deniability. I believe them that they were sure to shield Gibbs of any knowledge of bounty activity out of respect for the old man.

  30. turgidsen says: Mar 6, 2012 11:03 AM

    thatobnoxiousguy says:
    Mar 6, 2012 10:48 AM
    No damn excuse. If you are in charge then it’s your responsibility to know whats going on.
    PERIOD.

    Redskins, just as guilty as the Saints. They should receive the same punishment.
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    Of course that would hold up in a court of law. The team is responsible even though GM, HC , DC are no longer there only two of the players are still there. I guess the Titans and the Bills should also be punished the same as the Saints … Remember the Saints have admitted to keeping t quiet from Mickey Loomis to Sean Payton .. There is no black and white here except for the Saints …. all the rest of it is hearsay .So how do propose equal punishment? remove draft picks for people who were never associated with Gregg Williams . I know lets suspend the DC for all those teams, even though they did nothing wrong . That would be equal punishment ,, right? Guilt by association does not work anymore . Although it was acceptable in the McCarthy era and we know how that went.

  31. mackie66 says: Mar 6, 2012 11:07 AM

    Joe Gibbs of course knew about the bounties. If Gibbs DC is paying players bounties to hurt other players, the head coach knows about it. How can you keep the bounties secret from the HC. There are to many coaches on a NFL staff and to think one coach wouldnt advise Gibbs about bounties is to hard to believe.
    Gibbs knew.

  32. thraiderskin says: Mar 6, 2012 11:09 AM

    It doesn’t matter anyway, because if it was kept within the defensive side of the house, that means that the GM didn’t know, the head coach didn’t know and the owner didn’t know. All of which (with the exception of the owner?) makes their situation completely different, should of could of, would of. Not to mention this is 2 HCs ago and 2 DCs ago. So please explain to me the similiarities? The only people who think they are equivocal have something againt the Redskins. PERIOD.

  33. realitypolice says: Mar 6, 2012 11:09 AM

    This issue is ruining the entire off season for me.

    Where we should be getting excited about free agency, instead we’re getting dragged through muck all day every day with this shady scandal.

    Shame on the fools who perpetuated this disgusting nonsense or turned a blind eye to it.

    How depressing.

  34. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Mar 6, 2012 11:18 AM

    If one of these guys spoke up during the middle of this “Bounty-Gate” they would have been ostracized and out of football.

    They didn’t speak up and are now getting dragged down anyway and possibly will be out of football for a while.

    What a conundrum.

  35. joetoronto says: Mar 6, 2012 11:23 AM

    The Saints are going to pay big time, bigger than what the Pats paid for Spygate.

    You have to figure at least a 1st and a 2nd round pick plus a load of cash, at least as much as the 500,000 the Pats paid, probably more.

  36. hendawg21 says: Mar 6, 2012 11:38 AM

    It’s amazing how Greg Williams is really only on the hot seat for what happened in New Orleans yet the knuckleheads are trying to throw the Skins under the bus with him…well don’t forget Buffalo, Tennessee, Jacksonville….I don’t know why there’s all this hate for the Skins that’s not Greg Williams only other stop.

    The Saints were/are the only team truly on the hot seat they were the only ones busted…because of Williams past employment yes they are going to see if they had such programs to see if there is a history but you surely can’t punish those teams now as i’m sure the coaches and playeres involved are no longer there.

  37. skinsrock says: Mar 6, 2012 11:45 AM

    It’s hard to rat on your superior & Blache was heading for retirement… Why open a huge can of worms like that? He’s talkin’ cause there is no punishment coming his way.

  38. bobwhitequail says: Mar 6, 2012 11:58 AM

    This Blache guy sounds like a stand up guy. Guys that don’t come out in public often but take a stand when it threatens the integrity of someone he respects, that makes me believe him. Plus he’s implicating himself in doing so he could have just kept quite. Also bounties don’t fit Gibb’s profile at all so it all makes sense to me.

  39. bobwhitequail says: Mar 6, 2012 12:00 PM

    I think this would be a fair punishment:

    1. Greg Williams banned for life

    2. Payton suspended 5 games and big fine

    3. Saints lose this year’s second rounder and next year’s first rounder

    Biggest player advocates of bounties on the saints should get some kind of small fine probably but it’s not their fault as they are doing what their coach wants.

  40. bobwhitequail says: Mar 6, 2012 12:01 PM

    Forgot about Loomis. 2-3 year suspension for lying and continuing program after being told to stop.

  41. blackqbwhiterb says: Mar 6, 2012 12:05 PM

    Joe Gibbs is clean!!!!! All you haters, Dallas fans too bad!!
    Nice job by Blache, sticking up for Joe, after all the other snitching rats all over the league sang like canaries!! What ever happened to the Code of Omerta????

  42. kahnsbushymustache says: Mar 6, 2012 12:37 PM

    justbhouse2 says:
    Mar 6, 2012 10:52 AM
    To believe Gibbs was oblivious to what was happening with half of his team means he was not on top of his job.

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    You’re just figuring this out about Gibbs’ second tenure as HC of the Skins? He couldn’t have been more clueless if he tried. That’s why he went hightailing it back to NASCAR…

  43. maddog111 says: Mar 6, 2012 12:37 PM

    thatobnoxiousguy says:
    Mar 6, 2012 10:48 AM
    No damn excuse. If you are in charge then it’s your responsibility to know whats going on.
    PERIOD.

    Redskins, just as guilty as the Saints. They should receive the same punishment.
    ————————————————
    The Saints will be punished more for being told to stop the bounty program and failing to do so, than for the practice itself.

  44. gojags says: Mar 6, 2012 1:00 PM

    I think this would be a fair punishment:

    1. Greg Williams banned for life

    2. Payton suspended 5 games and big fine

    3. Saints lose this year’s second rounder and next year’s first rounder

    Biggest player advocates of bounties on the saints should get some kind of small fine probably but it’s not their fault as they are doing what their coach wants.

    ======================================

    4. Put a bounty when Greg Williams is coaching in the sideline whenever the case maybe and dive in his knees(during special team play) to illustrate what went through in the careers of some good football players.

  45. nannymcsack says: Mar 6, 2012 1:01 PM

    joe gibbs didn’t know something? non story

  46. thraiderskin says: Mar 6, 2012 1:03 PM

    One more thing, Blache is a coward for not telling Gibbs and allowing the practice to continue under Williams.

  47. pftrocks says: Mar 6, 2012 1:56 PM

    Blache could have spoken anonymously told NFL as the ex Saint employee who turned in the coaches.

    Update–Gibbs apparently practiced what he says he didn’t know about —

    Gibbs paid Redskins for hits, Starke says
    http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/redskins-talk/post/Gibbs-paid-Redskins-for-hits-Starke-says?blockID=664308&feedID=6458

    This is part of the NFL culture & right now their demonizing a few coaches for the practice. Sill;y!

  48. icancountcanyou says: Mar 6, 2012 4:24 PM

    Right, Mr. Gibbs of the alleged 20hr work days and sleeping at the facility had NO IDEA about the program.

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