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Saints defender after Favre injury: “Pay me my money!”

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In a must-read account of the Saints’ three-season bounty system, Peter King of Sports Illustrated shares plenty of intriguing and compelling details.  MDS already has highlighted portions of the article relating to Roger Goodell’s reaction to the situation and linebacker Scott Fujita’s position on the subject.  But there’s even more good stuff.

During the 2009 NFC title game, which both sparked the league’s investigation and served as the most obvious example of assault and battery of an opposing quarterback, King writes that, after an unflagged high-low hit on Brett Favre resulted in a sprained ankle, an unnamed Saints defender was heard saying on an on-field microphone, “Pay me my money!”

(We know what you’re thinking:  The league killed Monday’s re-air of the game on NFL Network because the comment could be heard during the broadcast.  Apparently, however, it was a different microphone.)

King also explains that defensive end Anthony Hargrove can be heard saying, “Favre is out of the game!  Favre is done!  Favre is done!”

Both statements would be strong circumstantial proof of the existence of a bounty program, if the NFL hadn’t already found that the bounty program existed.  And King spells out the weekly routine that unfolded during the 2009 season, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ first in New Orleans.

On Saturday night, Williams handed out in a defensive meeting envelopes containing payments for big plays and inflicted injuries from the prior Sunday.  And the defenders would then chant, “Give it back!  Give it back!  Give it back!”  Many did, which caused the pile of available cash to keep growing.

The bounty system continued even after, as King explains in the Tuesday edition of his MMQB column, former Vikings coach Brad Childress sent to the league video of eight different hits on Favre from that game, the Vikings officially alleged that the Saints had put a bounty on Favre, and Williams, linebackers coach Joe Vitt, and Hargrove denied (i.e., lied about) its existence to investigators.  For Williams, the denials (i.e., lies) continued through the middle of February 2012, when Williams was confronted with evidence implicating him as the “ringleader.”  Williams, per King, once again tried to deny it, but Williams then met with Goodell to confess.

Williams was back in New York on Monday, possibly to confess yet again (after possibly denying/lying yet again) his involvement in bounty systems in other cities.

King thinks the punishment issued to the Saints and various individuals will “likely dwarf” the penalties meted out for Spygate.  The more we learn about the situation, the less surprising that will be.

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146 Responses to “Saints defender after Favre injury: “Pay me my money!””
  1. mark921129 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:32 PM

    …Just keep getting better and better for Saints fans.

  2. redbullenergydrink says: Mar 6, 2012 4:33 PM

    If only we knew then what we know now… sigh…

  3. backstageatapuppetshow says: Mar 6, 2012 4:33 PM

    “Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.”

    -Marcus Aurelius-

  4. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Mar 6, 2012 4:33 PM

    Idc how brutal the game is.. Things like this are just messed up. Bunch of animals if you ask me, nothing wrong with getting some good legal hard hits in but when you are going after someone to injury them and take them out of the game over and over again.. Well it shows where your mentality stands.. Guess thats what happens when you take kids that probably shouldn’t have made it to a university and then hand them mils ( Not saying thats everyone). Truth hurts but I feel someone should say it.

  5. trojan33sc says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    They took away my Vikings Superbowl, “hit ‘em HARD” !!!!!!!!!!

  6. houseofbacon says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    1. No amount of punishment changes the outcome of the games, and that sucks for the Cards, Vikings, and whoever else was a victim of this.

    2. Hard to feel sorry for anyone involved who receives any amount of punishment for this, especially Williams who couldn’t be bothered to tell the truth on multiple occasions.

  7. funnyfootballguy says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    Things that make you go hmmmm..

  8. bearsrulepackdrool says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    Funny how the Saints had a bounty on Favre.

    Yet, the Bears were the ones that finally got the job done and ended his career (coincidentally Donovan McNabb’s too…the very next year).

  9. vikingsrdue says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    When you know the other team is better then you, what can you do but cheap shot and try to get lucky. Case in point, these disgraceful champions.

  10. katrinasafterbirth says: Mar 6, 2012 4:35 PM

    Wow, the Saints are truly low lifes. They will soon be getting a welcoming kit from the other dreads of the NFL like the Cheating Patriots, Eagle Fans, OJ, Carruth, Big Ben, and the 1979 Rams.

  11. georgebrett says: Mar 6, 2012 4:35 PM

    Favre is never done. The toughest SOB in football ever. The man is a man above all men. I wish he would teach others to play like he did, this game would be much better for it.

  12. jfdane says: Mar 6, 2012 4:35 PM

    Still don’t see what the big deal is. Its football. Cheat until you get caught.

  13. jfdane says: Mar 6, 2012 4:36 PM

    Can the media blow this any more out of proportion? Its absurd how big of a deal the media is making this.

  14. bigjdve says: Mar 6, 2012 4:37 PM

    I wonder when the punishments will be out. I know that part of all of these stories and “all” of the gruesome details is trying to get a story. However the hits just keep coming, this is looking worse and worse.

    I am all for hard hits, I am okay with trying to target the other teams best player. I am also okay with incentives (bounties or whatever word you choose) for big plays, hard hits, or what have you. However bragging about hurting someone is a little over the top. Injuries happen, it is part of the game, if someone gets hurt because you hit them hard (legally) then oh well, crap happens, but to brag about it. Grow up.

  15. radbob1 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:38 PM

    Where is the link to the recording? Need more than some dude heard some other dude say something without any context.

  16. foosball11 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:38 PM

    trojan33sc says:
    Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM
    They took away my Vikings Superbowl, “hit ‘em HARD” !!!!!!!!!!

    A terrible late game interception, bad kickoff, and no overtime D took away your vikings superbowl.

  17. mvp43 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:38 PM

    The $aints…………………………

  18. numberoneinthehoodg says: Mar 6, 2012 4:39 PM

    Since were talking about circumstantial proof, what about the quote before that which has Payton saying ” They’re coming back to play action, lets’ hit this guy again!”.

    Yeah, the coach didn’t know anything about this.

  19. erictheclown says: Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    but everybody does it.. smdh

  20. theservice10 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    If they were legal hits, then who cares. They get paid to be brutal to begin with. This thing is ridiculous. Let them play football. If they were illegal hits then there should have been a flag and a fine adn suspension after. If there wasnt, suck it up and move on. It’s not cheating like Spygate.

  21. bozosforall says: Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    The Saints bounty system cheated the individual players, while Spygate cheated the entire game itself. The Bountygate investigation will be relatively transparent, a direct contrast to the unethical practices that Goodell engaged in when he systematically destroyed the evidence regarding the violations in the Spygate scandal.

  22. cusoman says: Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, and acts like a rat…

    You hear that? That’s the sound of 10’s of thousands of Vikes fans wringing their hands in anticipation of the Saints’ punishment, also known in this case as ‘justice’.

  23. nyyjetsknicks says: Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    Someone will be suspended at least a year.

  24. bucfansouthtampa says: Mar 6, 2012 4:41 PM

    Mike,
    The other revelation that is unfolding is the connection of Mike Ornstein (convicted felon) that worked for Sean Payton as an unpaid assistant. He is documented (i.e. wrote the email himself confessing) that he personally contributed 10k for the bounty program. If thats the case, is it possible that other nefarious people contributed to this program? Is it possible that people who had a financial interest in the outcome of the game (i.e. Vegas-people who gamble-organized crime) contributed to the bounty pool? I think the NFL is uncovering something pretty ugly. Personally I think Gregg Williams will be banned for life from the NFL. Sean Payton and Loomis will be suspended for up to two years, and Benson may be forced to sell the team.

  25. pgui88 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:41 PM

    That would be Remi Ayodele? The current VIKINGS player? Priceless. But still doesn’t prove much. It was probably just a QB sack payment.

  26. crazycane says: Mar 6, 2012 4:41 PM

    So in other words, the Saints were doing us all a favor.

  27. oruacat2 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:43 PM

    Who dat?

  28. melikefootball says: Mar 6, 2012 4:43 PM

    More and more coming out, oh how will God-del and his hinchman handle all this. The darlings of the South aren’t lookin very so squeky clean are they??

  29. wtfru2 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:43 PM

    Goodell, quit building the suspense——Drop the hammer already!

  30. Justin says: Mar 6, 2012 4:44 PM

    Who Dat gonna lose a draft pick or two?

  31. touchdownroddywhite says: Mar 6, 2012 4:44 PM

    Life.Time.Bans.

    Bye bye Payton and Williams! Don’t let the door hit ya!

  32. calihawk says: Mar 6, 2012 4:45 PM

    Not even the Bounty could bring down the Beast Marshawn Lynch.

  33. yamchargers says: Mar 6, 2012 4:46 PM

    The Pats and Saints have taught me that cheaters prosper.

    It also seems toooo clear the Chargers don’t cheat. Way to clear.

  34. skipbayless says: Mar 6, 2012 4:46 PM

    Who Dat? ………….gettin suspended?

  35. joesphkerr says: Mar 6, 2012 4:47 PM

    I am sure De Smith and company cringe every time more new info comes out.

  36. ogarcz says: Mar 6, 2012 4:47 PM

    Take that Fisher! from a Dolfan.

  37. buffalomafia says: Mar 6, 2012 4:48 PM

    Quit crying its football! It is supposed to be a rough sport!

    Enough of these millionares playing a kids game & the league wants them to play two handed touch football with all these rule changes!

  38. ottograham says: Mar 6, 2012 4:51 PM

    Brett Favres not even mad. Hes just thrilled someones mentioning his name right now.

  39. zn0rseman says: Mar 6, 2012 4:55 PM

    I said this before and I’ll say it again…

    Even if Williams, Peyton and all of the Saints players are fined/suspended. Even if the Saints are forced to give all of their 2012 draft picks to the Vikings, the Vikings are still the losers and the Saints are still coming out on top, because the Saints have a Lombardi Trophy and Super Bowl rings, and the Vikings don’t.

    How much money and how many draft picks is a Super Bowl victory worth?

    The damage to Vikings organization will never and can never be repaid… and the Saints may be paying a price now, but it will be a slap on the wrist compared to what the Vikings organization has already paid.

  40. phillyphever says: Mar 6, 2012 4:55 PM

    What could have been? Maybe Peyton wins that Super Bowl if the Vikings made it (Favre would have been too dinged up to make a difference) and Peyton would have retired instead of trying to come back to play (would have solidified his place as a top 5 QB of all time).

    BTW, is it just me, or is Golic making himself look dumber and dumber by the day?

  41. myasylum11 says: Mar 6, 2012 4:55 PM

    I wonder how it felt when they figured out Farve wasn’t done? They never got the bounty! They must have been thinking, wtf? This dude will not go down! It was painful to watch, but Farve showed them!

  42. cbluem says: Mar 6, 2012 4:56 PM

    Still not sure where they were cheating. LEGAL HITS that get players knocked out of the games are where the “bounties” came from. You didn’t get paid if you did cheat. Acting like Romanowski and breaking someones finger under a pile didn’t get it done. Knocking the crap out of someone so hard legally that they leave the game is where you got paid. This goes on in every locker room. Everyone is hating on the Saints for the same thing they wish they’re team was doing. LEGALLY knocking players out of the game so the team can win the game.

    Every single football fan loves watching big hits. They are the most watched highlights. This isn’t a case like Monica Lowinski. There wasn’t a hit put out. They were just looking for a put out hit.

  43. pencepost says: Mar 6, 2012 4:57 PM

    So let me get this straight… Williams passes out the money, but then the players immediately put it back into the pot?

    That makes about as much sense as players trying to sue the NFL for injuries when they are intentionally injuring each other.

  44. contra74 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:00 PM

    This is just sad. Millionaires going out of their way to injure another player in order to get a few thousand bucks. This is a huge slap in the face of the NFL, the city of New Orleans, its fans, and most importantly, the integrity of the game.

  45. itwasagoodrun says: Mar 6, 2012 5:02 PM

    It’s time to vacate the trophy…

  46. tavia47 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:04 PM

    all teams do this it’s just the saint’s got caught you think when a opposing team take out a star player do you actually think that they are sad come again and get real they just didn’t get caught.

  47. cusoman says: Mar 6, 2012 5:04 PM

    bucfansouthtampa says:
    Mar 6, 2012 4:41 PM
    Mike,
    The other revelation that is unfolding is the connection of Mike Ornstein (convicted felon) that worked for Sean Payton as an unpaid assistant. He is documented (i.e. wrote the email himself confessing) that he personally contributed 10k for the bounty program. If thats the case, is it possible that other nefarious people contributed to this program? Is it possible that people who had a financial interest in the outcome of the game (i.e. Vegas-people who gamble-organized crime) contributed to the bounty pool?

    ——————–

    How about vegas-betting Officials? Certainly would fall in line with the way that 2009 NFCC was ref’d.

  48. bubba9er says: Mar 6, 2012 5:05 PM

    When I was 12 years old in PeeWee football we heard of a parent of an opposing team that offered $50 to the kid that took out our best player. They did. That’s not football, it’s organized crime.

  49. contra74 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:05 PM

    bozosforall says:
    Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM
    The Saints bounty system cheated the individual players, while Spygate cheated the entire game itself. The Bountygate investigation will be relatively transparent, a direct contrast to the unethical practices that Goodell engaged in when he systematically destroyed the evidence regarding the violations in the Spygate scandal.
    ———
    I disagree. The Saints bounty system cheated the entire game by affecting the outcome of a season. Yes, it affected individual players (Favre, etc.) but that in turn affected a team which in turn affected a season.

  50. captaintriumph says: Mar 6, 2012 5:06 PM

    If the NFL Network ever does replay this game, by all means look at the cheap shots…but don’t forget to watch the overtime officicting. That’s the real cheating. Not simply bad calls. Cheating by the refs.

  51. axespray says: Mar 6, 2012 5:06 PM

    “During the 2009 NFC title game, which both sparked the league’s investigation and served as the most obvious example of assault and battery of an opposing quarterback.”

    No, The Eagles with Reggie White going blitz happy on a beat up Joe Montana was nearly a snuff film, Reggie & Friends made saw & hostel look PG.
    Brett still took a heck of a beating thou, kind of funny to see the vikings get robbed of a superbowl thou.

  52. chillyball says: Mar 6, 2012 5:07 PM

    I retract my previous statement.

  53. nineroutsider says: Mar 6, 2012 5:07 PM

    trojan33sc says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    They took away my Vikings Superbowl, “hit ‘em HARD” !!!!!!!!!!
    ——————————————————–
    The 9ers overcame it, if the Vikings were ready to compete in the Bowl they would have as well!

    Yes, yes Kyle Williams I know…

  54. tjacks7 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:08 PM

    What a disgrace. Lifetime ban for all of them.

  55. rollteal says: Mar 6, 2012 5:09 PM

    You know Goodell should suspend New Orleans from NFL football and force Benson to sell the $aints to AEG and let them have take the team LA ….
    This is so horrific and I can’t believe NFL players do this….

  56. fringetastic says: Mar 6, 2012 5:13 PM

    I don’t agree that Hargrove’s statement constitutes circumstantial evidence of a bounty program. He celebrated that a key opponent was out of the game which implies nothing about improper incentives.

  57. brewcrewfan54 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    The high-low hit was legal. Why os everyone being such a wuss about this? These guys are paid to hit people. The only thing that is an issue with this is the coaching staff knew about it. The hits themselves was just another day at the office.

  58. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    All of that seemed pretty obvious to anyone watching the game at the time, except for the refs. I wonder how much “bounty” they collected after the game?

  59. vikescry1 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:16 PM

    @bearsrule packdrool yes the bears took out favre, it only took 20 years? the bears were his whipping boy’s til that game! i’m sure you bears fans will hang your hat on that for a long time. no one will blame you though, we all feel bad for you with that pathetic excuse of a team. now thumbs down me if you want but if you drive through chicago there are bill boards all over saying( come see the wolve’s play, chicago’s real football team) say what you want but you know i’m right.

  60. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 6, 2012 5:17 PM

    Favre brought more fans to the game than all of the players who have ever played for the Saints combined, over the history of the franchise.

    That is the sad part. Fans at a national level were cheated as well. Brett was never the same after the damage he took in that game.

  61. thrasherm316 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:20 PM

    Gregg Williams would be coaching for Oakland next season if Al Davis was still with us.

  62. dlln147 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:21 PM

    Rumor has it that after (Arthur Moats) ended Brett Favre’s career the Bills payed the legend killer with wrangler jeans. Gotta love my Bills. Honestly though, Favre was never the same after the 2009 NFC championship game. :(

  63. lambeauleaper says: Mar 6, 2012 5:21 PM

    The shame in this whole mess is what it’s going to do to the city of New Orleans. They’ve been riding the Saints to help themselves out of the Katrina mess. Hopefully, they’re better now because the Saints sure ain’t.

  64. farmmbig says: Mar 6, 2012 5:22 PM

    And just think… If only players played that hard without calling for a bounty?

    As a Viking fan, there’s nothing being enlightened in this situation. Anyone with an ounce of football intelligence could tell Gregg Williams coached-up these guys to deliver as many extra hits as possible against Favre— and Kurt Warner the week before.

    I hope all the guilty get punished severely.

    But the additional thing that ticks me off is how the Vikings’ O-line did NOTHING to send their own message to Saints defenders in that championship game…. Guys like McKinnie and Hutchinson did nothing to retaliate in terms of on-field justice.

    Another reason why I had no problem when the Vikigns chose to release McKinnie.

  65. skolvikings2011 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:22 PM

    theservice10 says:
    Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    If they were legal hits, then who cares. They get paid to be brutal to begin with. This thing is ridiculous. Let them play football. If they were illegal hits then there should have been a flag and a fine adn suspension after. If there wasnt, suck it up and move on. It’s not cheating like Spygate.

    ————————————————

    If the Saints coaches were paying players to put on the hits with a specific intent to injure, that is the definition of “Illegal”.

  66. macbull says: Mar 6, 2012 5:23 PM

    If this NFL investigation is to be considered “legitimate”, why the leaks to selective members of the press?

    The only way the press can get their eyes on the evidence is if someone in the commissioners office is being aloud to leak the information to selective members of the press.

    Another thing…if the NFL knew about the Saints bounty program and warned them 2 or 3 yrs ago, why didn’t the NFL launch an investigation at that time?

    Something doesn’t smell right about the way the commissioners office is handling the investigation…lack of a serious investigation two years ago and now the selective leaks to the media.

    Due to the leaks, most of the public has already pronounced the Saints guilty…Goodell’s intent, I guess.

  67. footballgenius101 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:23 PM

    I understand Vikings fans are bitter, and have been ever since they lost the NFC championship.

    But if you really think the outcome would have been different, you’re delusional.

    The defense still wanted to hit Favre hard and repeatedly. Bounty incentives or not – a NFC Championship game was incentive enough, they still would have dogged Favre all day – dude was what, 42 years old? That’s just good strategy.

    Maybe Vikings fan should be more upset with poor O-line performance and all the turnovers…and oh yeah, 12 men in the huddle.

  68. seananagan says: Mar 6, 2012 5:27 PM

    It doesn’t matter if the Saints aren’t the only team to have issued bounties; they won a Superbowl while cheating and deserve every bit of ridicule they are receiving.
    They should put a paper bag over their Lombardi Trophy to hide the black eye that now taints their championship.

  69. conormacleod says: Mar 6, 2012 5:29 PM

    Circumstantial evidence is every bit as good as direct evidence, and a Judge will tell the jury that same thing. Those that are in denial…more and more people are coming forward to confess this actually happened. It isn’t a matter of “if” anymore. It’s just a matter of gathering all of the evidence and totaling the loss to the victims, and then dolling out an appropriate sentence. As with most crimes, the punishment will never be equal to the loss felt by the victims (Vikings).

  70. arnoldziffel says: Mar 6, 2012 5:30 PM

    “On Saturday night, Williams handed out in a defensive meeting envelopes containing payments for big plays and inflicted injuries from the prior Sunday.”

    WOW! This bastard needs to find a new line of work. The NFL doesn’t need him representing the league as a coach.

    That huffing and puffing I hear … hmmm … I think it’s a herd of lawyers running after the ambulance.

    Better “Lawyer Up” – NFL … you’re gonna need some extra hands in the court room … there’s Mutiny on the Bounty …

  71. kenboslice says: Mar 6, 2012 5:38 PM

    Its a tough game for tough guys, I would not be shocked to find out every team does it. However, to send a message, take away their franchise tag.

  72. edavidberg says: Mar 6, 2012 5:44 PM

    Not every hard hit is the same. The issue isn’t the money it is the intent. You could tell those guys were going for the kill shot. In some instances they got away with penalties that should have been called.

    But regardless of money, you cannot have organizations encourage dirty play. You cannot have organizations encouraging their players to hurt their opponents. There is a difference between hitting hard and hitting to injure and the Saints clearly have been doing the latter the last 5 years.

    I hope they throw the book at them and anyone else who it can be shown were trying to injure players.

    That includes a 1 year suspension for Williams who had told the NFL it would stop.

  73. omniscient48 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:46 PM

    “Mike,
    The other revelation that is unfolding is the connection of Mike Ornstein (convicted felon) that worked for Sean Payton as an unpaid assistant. He is documented (i.e. wrote the email himself confessing) that he personally contributed 10k for the bounty program. If thats the case, is it possible that other nefarious people contributed to this program? Is it possible that people who had a financial interest in the outcome of the game (i.e. Vegas-people who gamble-organized crime) contributed to the bounty pool? I think the NFL is uncovering something pretty ugly. Personally I think Gregg Williams will be banned for life from the NFL. Sean Payton and Loomis will be suspended for up to two years, and Benson may be forced to sell the team.”

    bucsfansouthtampa is 100% correct about this being the REAL story. It is unfathomable that Tom Benson or Mickey Loomis would allow Sean Payton to be so close to this convicted felon. Why has this association not been seized upon by the media? Maybe they are afraid of organized crime? I’m just sayin . . .

  74. momsasaynt says: Mar 6, 2012 5:56 PM

    This just keeps getting worse and it makes me sick. That game was so painful (no pun intended) to watch after Favre was battered all over the field. The Saints were obviously afraid of what #4 could do in the game he had a remarkable season. It would have been painful to lose fair and square but to lose that game like this? Knowing all along something wasn’t right, but never thinking money was put down to injure players. This is not Football, This is sickening.

  75. theservice10 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:56 PM

    Guess what everyone? It wasn’t cheating!

  76. docboss says: Mar 6, 2012 5:57 PM

    These are the truly pertinent issues:
    1. This is the age of Goodell. He is trying to limit the damages both in money and image, caused by the real and perceived concussion issue in the NFL.
    2. The “bounties”, even if they resulted in “legal” hits according to league rules, were at least in part an attempt to reward and condone intentional injury to a player (see #1).
    3. The issue was brought to the attention of management which apparently did nothing. This makes it more than a player or union issue but now reflects legally on the league as a whole (see #1).
    4. You do not lie to the Commish. See the Vick issue.
    This is all about money and image. As long as Goodell appears to be soft on this issue, the league is at serious legal (financial) risk.

    The Saints are not the only ones guilty in this, but when I used that defense to argue a traffic ticket, the officer said “when I go fishing, I don’t catch all the fish in the lake, but I caught you”. The Saints and all involved should get hammered for the sake of the financial/legal state of the league. Props to Colin C. who has a handle on this.

  77. fcs34 says: Mar 6, 2012 5:57 PM

    Bountygate, nickle and diming Drew Brees, working out Randy Moss…

    I don’t know if I have ever seen a team become so pathetic in such a short period of time.

  78. zn0rseman says: Mar 6, 2012 5:58 PM

    Considering how rare Super Bowl victories are, the damage that was done is irrepairable. In 10 years, the Vikings will probably still not have a Super Bowl victory, and nobody will talk about the fact that the Saints unjustly stole the Super Bowl from them.

    That to me is the one of the worst parts of this. What they did was horrible and has no place in sports. Yet, ultimately their actions paid off and robbed that success from another team who played by the rules.

  79. snnyjcbs says: Mar 6, 2012 6:00 PM

    You use to hear the great old teams say they wanted to play the best to show that they were the best.

    The Saints by paying to have a great player hurt and taken out of the game must have been afraid of Favre and thought they would lose with him in the game.

    Tell Payton maybe the NFL can set up a game with his Saints against a bunch of old women from the Old Folks Home. No wonder the Saints have been nothing since. They should also take some of that Bounty Money and help their owner pay their QB.

  80. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 6, 2012 6:01 PM

    This is the gift that keeps on giving for Vikings fans.

    I don’t care how long it’s been happening, they got caught, and now the saints are going to pay, BIG.

    The twolves got caught in the Joe Smith trade (which everybody did, but the wolves got caught) and paid dearly for years with no first round picks.

    The gopher basketball team in the late 90’s got caught in an academic cheating scandal, which everybody does, but they got caught. all the Haskins years are compeltely wiped out from Gopher history, including the Final 4 year, and they were sanctioned, lost scholarships, and lost a fan base for about 10 years.

    time to pay up, saints. i am really enjoying this.

  81. bdoubleoey says: Mar 6, 2012 6:04 PM

    Brewcrew-the high/low hit was illegal. it was the first year for that. after Brady was injured the year before they made that a rule. but being called Brewcrew must mean ur from Wisconson, which explains alot

  82. billsfan1 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:05 PM

    You bears fans realize it was Arthur moats who initially took Fabre out correct? That was the beginning of the end. Not from the dilusional bears who were still convinced they had the better team green bay after the pack won the Super Bowl.

    Remember it was Moats who destroyed favre, anything you did was akin to twisting of the lid off a jar of pickles after someone else struggled with it and loosened it up

  83. oside760 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:05 PM

    they should give the saints the same punishment they gave USC. dont let em play any playoff games for at least this next year and hand out a bunch of suspensions

  84. lawyermalloy says: Mar 6, 2012 6:05 PM

    As the Commish contemplates severe penalties for “Bounty-Gate”, if it’s determined that during their Super Bowl year they were targeting players, why not take away their Lombardi Trophy as part of the punishment to be assesed?

  85. matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:05 PM

    Take the trophy and the rings and melt them down

  86. saint4life says: Mar 6, 2012 6:08 PM

    If the NFL knew two years ago and obviously they did because they supposedly have video proof or documents of someone taking money for hits that knocked people out of games, wouldn’t that make the NFL an accomplice to it to? They knew what was going on and did nothing but interview Williams when he says he didn’t do anything they just dropped it until recently.
    Something sounds fishy because if I’m an ex player I now have proof that the NFL was involved and did not do enough to stop it. Another lawsuit?
    How many players did they saints intentionally injure since they first suspected this was going on? If they have known for 1,2 or even three years that means they knew what was happening and let it continue!
    Like I said all this just don’t seem right !

  87. jcioffi1485 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:17 PM

    This is real simple. Ban Williams, Loomis, and Peyton from ever holding another job in the NFL. Suspend all of the players that were known participants for five years and take away all the Saints 2012 draft choices. That will insure the integrity of the league is maintained.

  88. TheWizard says: Mar 6, 2012 6:18 PM

    Lots of people acting like the Saints would have lost more games without bounties.

    Bunch of drama queens, all of you.

    I’m not even a Saints fan but the righteous indignation I’m reading here is preposterous.

  89. musicman495 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:23 PM

    fringetastic says: Mar 6, 2012 5:13 PM

    I don’t agree that Hargrove’s statement constitutes circumstantial evidence of a bounty program. He celebrated that a key opponent was out of the game which implies nothing about improper incentives.
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    You are correct. It proves nothing. I still say, WHERE ARE ALL THE OTHER ILLEGAL HITS if this supposedly went on for three years? All I keep hearing about is one or two hits in one or two games, some of which were neither penalized nor fined. Where were the cheap shots in the Super Bowl? Where was the guy purposing rolling on Dwight Freeney’s injured ankle? Where are the helmet to helmet “kill shots”?

    On Thanksgiving 1974, the Redskins predicted they would try and succeed knocking Roger Staubach out of the game, and did, only to lose to Rookie Clint Longley who came into the game.
    The bounties paid to injure players, if that is indeed what they were (I am not yet convinced), were wrong. But if anyone thinks paying guys for hits began with Gregg Williams, they are delusional. His major mistake was lying to investigators, and getting caught at a time when the league is panicking about being on the hook for dozens of lawsuits.

  90. sasquash20 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:23 PM

    Hey Vikings fans you lost because you fumbled what 6 times that game? Not because of a bounty BS. And I support all future bounties and injuries that come from them. Let the players play and stop being a bunch of sissies.

  91. musicman495 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:27 PM

    Considering how rare Super Bowl victories are, the damage that was done is irrepairable. In 10 years, the Vikings will probably still not have a Super Bowl victory, and nobody will talk about the fact that the Saints unjustly stole the Super Bowl from them.
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    Considering the Vikings record in Super Bowls (0-4), aren’t we being a bit presumptuous?

  92. tdk24 says: Mar 6, 2012 6:28 PM

    I want the NFL to investigate the Bengals for ending Bo Jackson’s NFL career. They took away a SuperBowl from us that year!

  93. johntonioholmes says: Mar 6, 2012 6:32 PM

    Funny, how come no one was suspended after those blatantly late and illegal hits?

    Kind of makes you think that the league watches only certain players.

  94. mrheavychevy says: Mar 6, 2012 6:36 PM

    Take their superbowl championship away

  95. stanklepoot says: Mar 6, 2012 6:37 PM

    bearsrulepackdrool says: Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM

    Funny how the Saints had a bounty on Favre.

    Yet, the Bears were the ones that finally got the job done and ended his career (coincidentally Donovan McNabb’s too…the very next year).
    __________________________
    I think I have to disagree with you somewhat. In my opinion, it was the Saints that ended Favre’s career…it just took a little bit for that to be clear. Favre’s ankle was still messed up at the beginning of the next season, which slowed him down. that, combined with the lesser performance of the O-line meant Favre was taking more, and bigger, hits. At his age, it just piled up too much and created what I like to call an injury spiral. In other words, the more hits he took, the less he was able to avoid future hits, and the more damage was done to his body. In the end, even Favre couldn’t come back from that. So, while the Bears may have put him down for good, it all started with the hits he took in the Saints game.

  96. vikefan says: Mar 6, 2012 6:37 PM

    I understand Vikings fans are bitter, and have been ever since they lost the NFC championship.

    But if you really think the outcome would have been different, you’re delusional.

    The defense still wanted to hit Favre hard and repeatedly. Bounty incentives or not – a NFC Championship game was incentive enough, they still would have dogged Favre all day – dude was what, 42 years old? That’s just good strategy.

    Maybe Vikings fan should be more upset with poor O-line performance and all the turnovers…and oh yeah, 12 men in the huddle.

    2

    8
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    ever consider all of those “extra” hits, late hits, “money” hits slowly & deliberately take its toll on any individual player (specially qb) over the course of a game, you are the dilusional one who thinks these extra effort hits did not matter.

  97. bozosforall says: Mar 6, 2012 6:39 PM

    contra74 says:
    Mar 6, 2012 5:05 PM
    bozosforall says:
    Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM
    The Saints bounty system cheated the individual players, while Spygate cheated the entire game itself. The Bountygate investigation will be relatively transparent, a direct contrast to the unethical practices that Goodell engaged in when he systematically destroyed the evidence regarding the violations in the Spygate scandal.
    ———
    I disagree. The Saints bounty system cheated the entire game by affecting the outcome of a season. Yes, it affected individual players (Favre, etc.) but that in turn affected a team which in turn affected a season.

    __
    The refs could have stopped this, as it was plainly obvious that the Saints were headhunting. Throw enough flags and hand out enough fines, then the bounty amount doesn’t begin to cover the penalty. The refs let this get way out of control and the NFL should shoulder some of the blame. Spygate was still worse though.

  98. stanklepoot says: Mar 6, 2012 6:44 PM

    TheWizard says: Mar 6, 2012 6:18 PM

    Lots of people acting like the Saints would have lost more games without bounties.

    Bunch of drama queens, all of you.

    I’m not even a Saints fan but the righteous indignation I’m reading here is preposterous.
    _________________________________
    I completely disagree. I like big hits as much as the next guy, but I’ve never enjoyed seeing a player injured…even if they play for a rival. Oh, and before you say I’m a just a bitter fan, nothing the Saints did affected my team. I’ve always been one to prefer to see my team outplay the other team, not sneak by because a valuable member(s) of the opposing team was injured. It’s one thing if an injury happens through normal play, but it’s just wrong for a player to take the field with the express intention of injuring another player, no matter how dirty the hit needs to be. This isn’t Madden. We’re talking about the careers and lives of real people here. How many players spend the rest of their lives dealing with the after effects of injuries suffered playing football, and how many of them have become hooked on painkillers because of those injuries? Going out of your way to intentionally do that to someone is simply messed up. If you can’t understand that, then I feel sorry for you.

  99. vikefan says: Mar 6, 2012 6:46 PM

    childress should sue league for losing his job over this

    saints should be stripped of super bowl trophy, all rings, and any other mementos/memorabilia, items associated with said super bowl first & foremost. after that start bans/suspensions of coaches/players effective immdiately without giving organization any time for planning ahead, then move on to draft pics/franchise tag. maybe even cut their roster to only 48 for 2 years & only let them have 9 players on field at a time. finally, force THEM to move to LA they they want a team there so bad.

  100. bozosforall says: Mar 6, 2012 6:47 PM

    brewcrewfan54 says:
    Mar 6, 2012 5:14 PM
    The high-low hit was legal. Why os everyone being such a wuss about this? These guys are paid to hit people. The only thing that is an issue with this is the coaching staff knew about it. The hits themselves was just another day at the office.

    __

    The Saints racked up at least two personal fouls on hits on Favre…and the NFL admitted later that a third personal foul was missed on the play that resulted in an interception with the game tied in the third quarter (which directly affected the game). McCray was also fined $20,000 for his illegal hits on Favre, yet another admission that the NFL acknowledged that the Saints were playing dirty.

    Still not nearly as bad as the effect of Spygate on the game though.

  101. btowngetsdown says: Mar 6, 2012 6:55 PM

    If you watch this video with the volume off (unless you like the “Pants on the Ground” song from American Idol), this is a good video of all of the hits on Favre, including the hand off hit.

  102. detruthhurts says: Mar 6, 2012 7:11 PM

    melikefootball says: Mar 6, 2012 4:43 PM

    More and more coming out, oh how will God-del and his hinchman handle all this. The darlings of the South aren’t lookin very so squeky clean are they??

    They are toast! They will be hammered to the point that it actually shocks everyone who is a NFL fan! And deservedly so, Nothing good ever come out of that stinking filthy cesspool of a city anyways!

  103. doughars says: Mar 6, 2012 7:57 PM

    I’ve been waiting 43 years for my team to win the super bowl, but if they won by cheating it would be worse than losing. The refs screwed the saints fans as much as the vikes fans, we just know it at the time.

  104. daroc88 says: Mar 6, 2012 8:03 PM

    Does anyone else remember the story from earlier this season when Adrian Peterson claimed the Saints players twisted his injured ankle in piles and did a bunch of other dirty stuff after the whistle? A bunch of people called AP soft and a whiner. After these revelations, I guess many of those same critics owe AP an apology. It’s all starting to come together, this is a serious and probably true accusation.

  105. daroc88 says: Mar 6, 2012 8:08 PM

    If Gregg Williams is banned for life, he certainly has a career in mind manipulation of some sort. How can you be so dumb as to place the money you earn back into the pot to help it grow??? What sense does that make? So players contributed money from their own pockets and then their own winnings to enhance the pot. Wow!

  106. gmen1987 says: Mar 6, 2012 8:08 PM

    Continue on cracking down on the criminal element behavior in the NFL, Commisioner Goodell. You are doing a fantastic job.

  107. artiesliver says: Mar 6, 2012 8:29 PM

    Now lets see what it’s like for another team to get it’s rep trashed. At least the patriots had to win 3 and get busted on a technicality to get hated. The Saints only won one Super Bowl and now they can wear the black hat. I’m glad because I’m sick and tired of the media telling us how we should still feel sorry for N.O. and how great it was that the Saints won. Just wait Saints fans.,,now you get see what it’s like on this side of the fence. All I can tell you is to embrace it and use it to run up the score next season on every team. Probably why you’re interested in Moss.

  108. rathwell says: Mar 6, 2012 8:49 PM

    First off, we need to differentiate between a) being paid to intentionally and illegally injure an opposing player, and b) being paid for a vicious but legal hit.
    If players are being paid to illegally injure players then whomever is responsible needs to face serious consequences.
    If players are being paid for legal hits, then they are simply being professional football players.

    If a defensive players has a chance to legal hit a player so hard that the opponent may get injured but chooses not to do so, said player will not be getting paid to play football much longer.

  109. bordner says: Mar 6, 2012 8:52 PM

    I’m no Saints fan, but are we saying that the Saints automatically won the Super Bowl because they had a bounty on Brett Favre in the NFCC game? Didn’t they have to get by the Colts after that, or were they just handed the Lombardi immediately after receiving the Halas trophy? No one seems to be talking about a bounty on Peyton Manning or any of the Colts during the Super Bowl, are they? (but honestly – maybe they have been and I’ve just missed it)

    If all you want to do is take away a trophy, then take away the Halas trophy. If you want to take away a championship, then prove they did the same thing during the Super Bowl that they’re being accused of doing during the NFC title game.

    Either way, I don’t care. The more that comes out on this actually seems to be helping Favre repair his image a little bit and will also hopefully drive some of those obnoxious Saints fans back under the woodwork for awhile.

  110. miamisaint3255 says: Mar 6, 2012 9:07 PM

    penalty’s wil be severe apparently. If there was a cover up and lying to Goodel that is what makes the penalties severe.

    But all this talk of the Saints demise is nonsense. The most prolific offense in the history of the NFL is returning in ’12 and the Saints will contend for the Super Bowl in ’12. That is the reality of things. The loss of draft picks (if it happens) will hurt the future but not the present so much. If Payton suspended for games, Saints will still do ok in those games. Suspensions of 10+ players on defense all at the same time is not going to happen and the team will be at full strength in the playoffs.

  111. ericn42000 says: Mar 6, 2012 9:13 PM

    PUNKS… Looking like a fool with with your pants on the ground.

  112. bozosforall says: Mar 6, 2012 9:35 PM

    artiesliver says:
    Mar 6, 2012 8:29 PM
    Now lets see what it’s like for another team to get it’s rep trashed. At least the patriots had to win 3 and get busted on a technicality to get hated. The Saints only won one Super Bowl and now they can wear the black hat. I’m glad because I’m sick and tired of the media telling us how we should still feel sorry for N.O. and how great it was that the Saints won. Just wait Saints fans.,,now you get see what it’s like on this side of the fence. All I can tell you is to embrace it and use it to run up the score next season on every team. Probably why you’re interested in Moss.

    __
    What a little crybaby you are. Then again, I wouldn’t expect anything else from a New England sports fan. You guys have been crying about how other teams are treated better than yours for nearly a century now. Winning a few titles, albeit tainted ones, doesn’t change a thing.

  113. bozosforall says: Mar 6, 2012 9:37 PM

    bordner says:
    Mar 6, 2012 8:52 PM
    I’m no Saints fan, but are we saying that the Saints automatically won the Super Bowl because they had a bounty on Brett Favre in the NFCC game? Didn’t they have to get by the Colts after that, or were they just handed the Lombardi immediately after receiving the Halas trophy? No one seems to be talking about a bounty on Peyton Manning or any of the Colts during the Super Bowl, are they? (but honestly – maybe they have been and I’ve just missed it)

    If all you want to do is take away a trophy, then take away the Halas trophy. If you want to take away a championship, then prove they did the same thing during the Super Bowl that they’re being accused of doing during the NFC title game.

    Either way, I don’t care. The more that comes out on this actually seems to be helping Favre repair his image a little bit and will also hopefully drive some of those obnoxious Saints fans back under the woodwork for awhile.

    __

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/02/dungy-titans-had-a-bounty-on-peyton-manning/

  114. saint4life says: Mar 6, 2012 9:40 PM

    Saints fans aren’t going anywhere. Personally I love Brett favre as a player but I’d love to watch the beating he took over and over again. Once you’re born a saints fan , always a saints fan!
    You just wouldn’t get it, you’ve got to be from here to understand it. Yes we are disappointed if the investigation is true but there is alot of mud in the water so to speak.
    Because a guy says ” Pay me my money” he intentionally tried to injure someone? Not hardly.I take that like rod Tidwell from Jerry McGuire , show me the money. Meaning give me a damn contract!

  115. realclearfb says: Mar 6, 2012 9:41 PM

    Aints = Saints = Taints

  116. gb4mn0 says: Mar 6, 2012 9:44 PM

    If there’s one undeniable fact that has been revealed from all of this it’s that the vike toads are the biggest bunch of bed wetting cry baby losers to have ever trod the sod.

  117. deathtoshorty says: Mar 6, 2012 9:57 PM

    I forget who came up with the idea of taking away the saints franchise tag but that would be amusing and very fitting. As a Vikes fan I lament what happened and having a ring is priceless but if your actions lead to many years of ineptitude was it worth it? In the end the saints fans might end up going back to being the Aints.

  118. saintsnutcase says: Mar 6, 2012 10:16 PM

    Get a life you haters. This is football. They do it in HS too. This is nothing new only the Saints were caught. If the Saints were to be suspended, then the Deadskins, Titans, Jags, or any team involved G. Williams should be suspended or draft picks taken away too. This is the only way to hold the Saints from winning another SB in 2013. The NFL wants the Falcan’ts and Matty “choky” Ryan to win the SB.

  119. joyjoy69 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:33 PM

    jfdane says: Mar 6, 2012 4:35 PM

    Still don’t see what the big deal is. Its football. Cheat until you get caught.

    AND…

    jfdane says: Mar 6, 2012 4:36 PM

    Can the media blow this any more out of proportion? Its absurd how big of a deal the media is making this.

    ———————————

    You, sir, are the problem with America and the reason why this kind of criminal conduct continues to get excused. Were you one of the 6 male jurors on the Cox jury who decided that it wasn’t rape because she never said no? You are the best argument anyone can make against democracy. If your vote really counts with equal weight to mine and the hundreds of people who give you a thumbs down, that explains all of the problems we see in our government today! Please do us all a favor and don’t vote.

  120. joyjoy69 says: Mar 6, 2012 10:37 PM

    bozosforall says: Mar 6, 2012 4:40 PM

    The Saints bounty system cheated the individual players, while Spygate cheated the entire game itself. The Bountygate investigation will be relatively transparent, a direct contrast to the unethical practices that Goodell engaged in when he systematically destroyed the evidence regarding the violations in the Spygate scandal.

    ———————–

    The biggest differences: 1.) bounty gate had a clear direct effect on the game and 2.) Spygate wasn’t criminal. Translate the activity of video taping people conducting themselves in a public venue into a non-football context and there is nothing to complain about. Translate paying a person to injure another person out of the context of a football field and you have assault and battery. Anyone who believes it’s unfair that the Saints may get punished more harshly than the Patriots did really don’t have any perspective or insight.

  121. mrznyc says: Mar 6, 2012 11:33 PM

    Follow the money – If all the money came from within the Saints organization then it’s going to be pretty standard suspensions and fines – BUT – If some of that money came from somewhere else, then you’re going to see a mushroom cloud over the Super Dome.

  122. georgebrett says: Mar 6, 2012 11:35 PM

    I happen to agree with him and disagree with you. It’s football and until you or anyone else can prove that a player deliberately tried to ruin someones career this is all for not. Please tell me the difference between this and 2 hockey players dropping their gloves and fighting. Then tell me what the difference between this and 2 boxers trying to knock each others heads off. Then tell me what the difference between this and 2 MMA fighters trying to break one anothers bones or choking them into submission. The only difference here and with the others is here there is a chance for a lawyer to come in and make a boat load of money. That’s the liberal way is it not?

  123. dyims says: Mar 7, 2012 12:10 AM

    Everybody has to understand that bozosforall (his blog name actualyy fits his stupidity rather well) is so damn jealous of the Pats success that he is fixated on them. You never once read about what team he supports does or doesn’t do. That is probably because he’s embarresd to support them. Bozo needs to get a real life but I’m sure he doesn’t have the intelligence level or intestinal fortitude to do anything productive in life.

  124. The Prophet says: Mar 7, 2012 12:10 AM

    numberoneinthehoodg says:Mar 6, 2012 4:39 PM

    Since were talking about circumstantial proof, what about the quote before that which has Payton saying ” They’re coming back to play action, lets’ hit this guy again!”.

    Yeah, the coach didn’t know anything about this.
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    And to think Favre considered Payton his friend …

  125. The Prophet says: Mar 7, 2012 12:11 AM

    Truth is no bounty collected on Favre, because he never quit and played his butt off for 4 quarters. Not sure if he could’ve played in the SB had they won, but he stayed in and fought in this game no matter what.

  126. hardjudge says: Mar 7, 2012 12:55 AM

    Sounds like the District Attorney in New Orleans should investigate the filing of conspiracy to commit aggravated assault and battery( a felony). About 10 years in a Louisiana prison ought to make these guys think twice. And for those of you who think Farve et al consented to these assaults think again. If they were against the rules and knowingly inflicted they is no consent.

  127. lnfinite says: Mar 7, 2012 2:31 AM

    Saints are busted. No matter the outcome they will pay but bringing up the history of 2009 and the super bowl is ridiculous. Our idiot commish is caught between a rock and hard place. Fines and forfeiture of draft picks are a joke. The NFL now stands for award crime and No Flipping Logic.

    Substitute flipping for another F word this site will not allow.

  128. truthserum4u says: Mar 7, 2012 3:24 AM

    pgui88 says:Mar 6, 2012 4:41 PM

    That would be Remi Ayodele? The current VIKINGS player? Priceless. But still doesn’t prove much. It was probably just a QB sack payment.

    ——————————-

    Great excuse, except for the fact they didn’t sack Favre on the play. They hit him on his first interception, which if called correctly, would have given the Vikings 1st & 10 at the New Orleans 20.

  129. truthserum4u says: Mar 7, 2012 3:34 AM

    phillyphever –

    Golic, along with Wiley & D Woodson, are getting confused with what they participated in (clean hard hits) and what appears was going on in New Orleans (intent to injure by any means).

  130. truthserum4u says: Mar 7, 2012 4:03 AM

    brewcrewfan54 says:Mar 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    The high-low hit was legal. Why os everyone being such a wuss about this? These guys are paid to hit people. The only thing that is an issue with this is the coaching staff knew about it. The hits themselves was just another day at the office.

    ———————————–

    The hi-low hit was in fact illegal. The Brady rule was in place before the season started, so it should have beem flagged when McCrary hit Favre below the knee. The league went on to fine him for it, so I guess you’re wrong here.

  131. truthserum4u says: Mar 7, 2012 5:03 AM

    macbull –

    There were no leaks to the media. The league handed out to each team a copy of their extensive report. One of the teams chose to show the report to Peter King who…reported on it.

    The league did investigate allegations on the bounty system in New Orleans after the NFC Championship game against the Vikings. The investigation stalled when they ran into a lack of participation and denials (lies) from the Saints organization. The Saints were told to stop it if they were in fact doing it. Tom Benson told Loomis to stop it if they were doing it.

    At some point recently the league received more information that confirmed the previous allegations.

    – The Saints had bounties for injuring players. The bounty system has been admitted by Williams, Payton & Loomis.

    – The Saints players, Williams, Vitt, Payton & Loomis all lied to the league about it. Ask Michael Vick how well that works when caught.

    – The Saints continued the practice despite being previously investigated for it and told to stop.

    – The reward bonuses, especially when paid by a coach, technically circumvents the salary cap.

    – The IRS may want to go over some filings to see if these players were reporting the thousands of dollars they collected over the three year period.

    – In light of players (current & retired) complaining about player safety, a system with intent to injure flies in the face of such out cry and doesn’t help its cause.

    – While highly unlikely, certain players could have grounds to sue the Saints. Likewise, again highly unlikely, players & coaches could face prosecution for their actions.

    Don’t go feeling sorry for the Saints and try to make them the victim.

    And for some of you posting on this story – yeah, it’s no big deal.

  132. jerrykill4pres says: Mar 7, 2012 7:25 AM

    Some of you people are delusional!

    The Vikings play QB’s like Aaron Rodgers twice a year. But do you think that we hope our defense get’s “extra” hits on him, and hopes the guy get’s injured, and carted off the field? That would be stupid… Yes, i hope Jared can sack him, but injure, hurt, end his career? NO WAY! Sure, we all love the hard hits in football. But after the whistle, the high-low, dirty hits? NO! Why? Why would you want to injure someone and ruin their career? Why would you want to take someone out of the game who could possibly be one of the greatest of all time? Think about it! Some of you people who say football is becoming for sissies, you have no clue!

    Maybe what they need to do now, is have the Vikings play the Taints, and then the Cards play the Taints…. 60 minute games…. No flags will be thrown on the Vikings or the Cards…. The play doesn’t end until the players say so… All out battle royal… See how Taints fans feel when Brees is black and blue and purple and every other color… And then everyone can start pitching in “straight cash homey” for broken bones, and decapitation on brees…. Sounds about the same thing the Taints did… I say the NFL should market these two games during the offseason… Does that make you Taints fans think about it???

  133. gators56 says: Mar 7, 2012 8:34 AM

    I seriously doubt the NFL is going to go light on the Saints. There is a consistent move to go away from the no holds bar gladiator style football that may have existed just a few years ago. Case in point – the new rules about flagrant hits, fines and increasing penalties during the games for those hits.

    I’m thinking it might be a more NCAA style penalty to hit the Saints. We will see.

  134. vikesandravens78 says: Mar 7, 2012 9:52 AM

    I agree with what’s been said in an earlier comment that, along with fines and suspensions, Gooddell should vacate the Superbowl XLIV trophy. The vacant Lombardi trophy would serve as an ever-present reminder that the league is committed to player safety.

  135. vikefan says: Mar 7, 2012 11:12 AM

    If there’s one undeniable fact that has been revealed from all of this it’s that the vike toads are the biggest bunch of bed wetting cry baby losers to have ever trod the sod.
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    bias uneducated dum_as$ cheese lovers attempt the need to be heard again

  136. geezohman says: Mar 7, 2012 12:39 PM

    thats got to be the hottest selling NFL game these days… Vikings-Saints playoff…

    wonder if it can be found on youtube or somewhere.

    I dont mind the side bets like in Golf, but in Footballm its different. Its not like in golf where you’re betting a golfer falls in a goofer hole, come-on.

    I want to watch football for the ‘talent’ that players show… like receivers catching the long pass with one hand. “clean’ hit tackles.. not the Terry Bradshaw, pick him up and toss him on his head.

    Then i agree… the SuperBowl Trophy is very tarnished right now in New Orleans

  137. Deb says: Mar 7, 2012 12:46 PM

    I know Favre is a polarizing figure. But to me, he’s just a guy who played the game with the same childlike enthusiasm I feel when watching it … the Iron Man who fought to stay on the field through injury on top of injury. Whatever he was off the field, he was heroic on the field. And no matter how much Packer fans resent him, he deserved the opportunity to go out in a fair fight.

    Bounties aren’t new to football; they’ve been rumored as long as I’ve been a fan. I don’t really trust that Goodell’s primary interest is player safety. His primary interest is the corporate image of the NFL. But if he’s serious about that, he’ll make a definitive statement with Williams. There’s no comparison between this and “Spygate.” That was minutia. This had a direct impact on the outcome of a championship game.

  138. pongonfl says: Mar 7, 2012 6:42 PM

    Its kind of funny that so many people including the commisioner watched that NFC playoff game and never saw all the hits that were not called.
    The Vikings O line would have had to hold the pass rushers to protect farve more then they did cause all the hits were after the ball was gone.

    But the commissioner watched this game with most of you clowns and thought it was GREAT.
    So great they made the match up the first game of the next season.

    With even a casual reference to the rule book by impartial officials, this would have been a 14 point win for the Vikings.

    This game represented everything that Goodell says he wants to change in the sport, but he loved it, booked round two as soon as he could.

    To me this whole story has nothing to do with the Saints, their coaches or their players. It is all about how the officiating can collapse so bad in play off games. The saints did not put on stealth suites, they did it in plain sight. It was not called.

    It was evident again this year. The giants had to work through incredibly bad officiating to get to the super bowl.

    It seems that officials are at the least coached to try to call things a bit, but if a team is persistent, to “just let them play”. That calling penalties is perceived as them interfering and they will be criticized for doing that, but not calling penalties is less likely to get them in trouble.

    That is one of the great lessons in the Patriots early dominance, keep interfering with recieves, the officials will stop calling it and you will counter a very good offence with very mediocre secondary players.

    Anyone would agree. Any team could beat any other team every time if they are allowed to do any violence they want to the QB.

  139. itsspideyman says: Mar 8, 2012 8:09 PM

    So everyone does it?

    Not quite. The Cardinals, Vikings and Colts didn’t.

    Otherwise Drew Brees would have been an oil slick on the Superdome carpet.

  140. itsspideyman says: Mar 8, 2012 8:21 PM

    georgebrett says:Mar 6, 2012 4:35 PM

    Favre is never done. The toughest SOB in football ever. The man is a man above all men. I wish he would teach others to play like he did, this game would be much better for it.
    ——–

    Amen Brett. Favre played the game as it should be played, with a happiness that may never be repeated. He was known to be the one player that all the other players wanted to see. This revelation will make his retirement a little kinder, and the sportswriters and fans think a little deeper about his last years. He took a pounding at the most vulnerable position in the game and holds the NFL endurance record. When we talk about the all-time top 5 quarterbacks, Brett Favre’s name will be one of them.

  141. rexryanstoecheese says: Mar 9, 2012 4:07 PM

    Favre’s incredible career and abilities, notwithstanding, I could never bring myself to “like” him as an NFL personality. Unlike, Peyton, Eli, ARod, Brady and other big name QB’s, he has an air of superiority around him that is very off-putting.
    Of course, him beating my Pats in 97 SB was the beginning of my dislike of him.
    Then the cell Pic of his wee-wee made it even worse.
    Having closely watched the entirety of that 09′ NFC championship game and in light of recent revelations, I’m not sure we’ve ever seen a tougher SOB play the game in our generation…
    Much football respect…

  142. dickpoundsit says: Mar 9, 2012 10:42 PM

    Some of you people are actually advocating lifetime bans because a team paid its defense to make big, LEGAL hits on opposing players each week?

    Here’s a newsflash: ALL teams pay their defense to make big, legal hits on opposing players each week! That is the core job of every defense in the league. You are only upset because the Saints actually awarded additional “prizes” in addition to the standard game checks.

    Seriously… When did the NFL become a skirt-wearing league where LEGAL hits are seen as “cheating”?

  143. dickpoundsit says: Mar 9, 2012 10:50 PM

    @Contra:

    I almost forgot… These “bounties” did nothing to change the outcome of the game. What sealed the Queens’ fate was horrific ball management skills, a late-game pick, a complete lack of a “sudden death” defense and an overrated RB who washed his hands with butter before taking the field. Please try to keep things in proper perspective. With the exception of the final pick which the rest of the team forced him in a position to throw, Favre played lights-out that entire game despite being steamrolled by a fired-up Saints defense with a thirst for his blood. Maybe if the rest of the Purple Pansies had the stones Favre does, your team may have actually managed to come out with a win.

  144. golions1 says: Mar 10, 2012 6:42 AM

    Suh needs to speed in at 91 MPH and stomp out this nonsense.

  145. hitwithafade says: Mar 10, 2012 12:09 PM

    Joe Paterno and Bill Belicheck have both won titles by having corners and linebackers crush receivers on every play…whether it be a running play or a pass…was following a designed defense for those two where the players failed to do as told would have affected the outcome?…is it any different than a monetary reward as an incentive?….of course not if the writer is a Patriot shill..hits are the game on defense…lawyers are parasites who have their jaws clamped down of fashioning public opinion and their sites set on a another billion dollar industry…like they have now…with Apple

  146. bigjim50010 says: Mar 11, 2012 9:45 PM

    vikefan says:
    Mar 7, 2012 11:12 AM
    If there’s one undeniable fact that has been revealed from all of this it’s that the vike toads are the biggest bunch of bed wetting cry baby losers to have ever trod the sod.
    ——————————————————-
    bias uneducated dum_as$ cheese lovers attempt the need to be heard again
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    sez the guy from Landfall MN

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