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	<title>Comments on: Turley wants to know what Brees knows about bounties</title>
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		<title>By: mikemcdorman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jonny42671: 

C&#039;mon kid, I&#039;m not a Saints fan (at all), and neither is my fanhood bad for the sport.  You didn&#039;t address anything I said.

@vinsanitynow:

&quot;Key here is WITHIN THE RULES – you going to tell me that all those shots on Farve were within the rules? If I am not mistaken there were personal fouls called&quot;

Sure they were called, as they should have been.  But no one -- to my knowledge -- is claiming that players were rewarded for those illegal plays.  And players should be allowed to reward one another for big, legal, defensive plays, including those that knock a guy out of the game.  Why?  Because getting knocked out of the game, as in rugby, boxing, UFC, judo, etc., is part of it.  

It&#039;s always been part of it.  

I haven&#039;t seen anything that conclusively shows that people were rewarded for illegal plays.  

Short of that, I don&#039;t see the problem.

Full disclosure:  I was an All-State middle linebacker in high school and played a year at a small college before getting serious about studying and so giving up the game.  Now I&#039;m a lawyer; hence my emphasis on the LEGALITY of paying for performance.

I actually agree with Darren Sharper or Mike Golic can&#039;t remember on ESPN yesterday, when they said the word &quot;bounty&quot; -- with it&#039;s dark connotation -- has as much to do with all the media hype as anything.  (That and the fact that most media types never played the game, and so have very little idea of what playing defense is really like.  

You try to knock guys out.  Legally.  I see no problem in rewarding guys who do so.  Legally.  That&#039;s it.  (Rewarding for penalties, that&#039;s a different story.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jonny42671: </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon kid, I&#8217;m not a Saints fan (at all), and neither is my fanhood bad for the sport.  You didn&#8217;t address anything I said.</p>
<p>@vinsanitynow:</p>
<p>&#8220;Key here is WITHIN THE RULES – you going to tell me that all those shots on Farve were within the rules? If I am not mistaken there were personal fouls called&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure they were called, as they should have been.  But no one &#8212; to my knowledge &#8212; is claiming that players were rewarded for those illegal plays.  And players should be allowed to reward one another for big, legal, defensive plays, including those that knock a guy out of the game.  Why?  Because getting knocked out of the game, as in rugby, boxing, UFC, judo, etc., is part of it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always been part of it.  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anything that conclusively shows that people were rewarded for illegal plays.  </p>
<p>Short of that, I don&#8217;t see the problem.</p>
<p>Full disclosure:  I was an All-State middle linebacker in high school and played a year at a small college before getting serious about studying and so giving up the game.  Now I&#8217;m a lawyer; hence my emphasis on the LEGALITY of paying for performance.</p>
<p>I actually agree with Darren Sharper or Mike Golic can&#8217;t remember on ESPN yesterday, when they said the word &#8220;bounty&#8221; &#8212; with it&#8217;s dark connotation &#8212; has as much to do with all the media hype as anything.  (That and the fact that most media types never played the game, and so have very little idea of what playing defense is really like.  </p>
<p>You try to knock guys out.  Legally.  I see no problem in rewarding guys who do so.  Legally.  That&#8217;s it.  (Rewarding for penalties, that&#8217;s a different story.)</p>
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		<title>By: solomon151</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont understand why people are still arguing what is wrong or right. THe man himself  (Williams) came out and said he was running one. Point Blank, I mean what else do you need to know. We all know that football is a violent sport and we also know people get hurt. I mean it is what it is. But to go out and try to hurt someone outside of the rules for money is bad for everyone. We&#039;re not talking about hits that are deem legal. We&#039;re talking about what goes on under the pile. The late hits. The driving of the player to the ground. Example. I dont know if it was on purpose or not, But the Guy from KC hit Forte on the knee with his helmet. Knock him out for the year. Thats the type of hits that are in Question...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand why people are still arguing what is wrong or right. THe man himself  (Williams) came out and said he was running one. Point Blank, I mean what else do you need to know. We all know that football is a violent sport and we also know people get hurt. I mean it is what it is. But to go out and try to hurt someone outside of the rules for money is bad for everyone. We&#8217;re not talking about hits that are deem legal. We&#8217;re talking about what goes on under the pile. The late hits. The driving of the player to the ground. Example. I dont know if it was on purpose or not, But the Guy from KC hit Forte on the knee with his helmet. Knock him out for the year. Thats the type of hits that are in Question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: greysolon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go Aztecs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Aztecs!</p>
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		<title>By: ottograham</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Castration!! Double Castrastion!! Take those draft picks away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Castration!! Double Castrastion!! Take those draft picks away.</p>
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		<title>By: vinsanitynow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vinsanitynow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mikemcdorman says: Mar 6, 2012 8:53 AM

~~ &quot;Rather, guys are supposed to try to knock each other out of the game — within the rules which is all that seems to have been going on with the Saints... ~~~

Key here is WITHIN THE RULES - you going to tell me that all those shots on Farve were within the rules? If I am not mistaken there were personal fouls called

~~ If the Saints were paying bonuses for unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, we’d have a problem, but that’s not the case!&quot; ~~

Only those who read the report know who  allegedly got paid and what they got paid for]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikemcdorman says: Mar 6, 2012 8:53 AM</p>
<p>~~ &#8220;Rather, guys are supposed to try to knock each other out of the game — within the rules which is all that seems to have been going on with the Saints&#8230; ~~~</p>
<p>Key here is WITHIN THE RULES &#8211; you going to tell me that all those shots on Farve were within the rules? If I am not mistaken there were personal fouls called</p>
<p>~~ If the Saints were paying bonuses for unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, we’d have a problem, but that’s not the case!&#8221; ~~</p>
<p>Only those who read the report know who  allegedly got paid and what they got paid for</p>
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		<title>By: jonny42671</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonny42671]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mikemcdoirman......and having fans like you is even worse for the sport. Get your paper bag ready, the aints are coming back. Enjoy your ASTERISK Superbowl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikemcdoirman&#8230;&#8230;and having fans like you is even worse for the sport. Get your paper bag ready, the aints are coming back. Enjoy your ASTERISK Superbowl.</p>
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		<title>By: colt2011</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course Brees knew. No way he could have avoided knowing for 3 years. He&#039;s competitive, says he&#039;d do anything to win. He knew and is a player rep. He should have shut it down. What a hypocrite. The NFLPA needs to remove him as a rep. Now. Lying is cheating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Brees knew. No way he could have avoided knowing for 3 years. He&#8217;s competitive, says he&#8217;d do anything to win. He knew and is a player rep. He should have shut it down. What a hypocrite. The NFLPA needs to remove him as a rep. Now. Lying is cheating.</p>
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		<title>By: scoops1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scoops1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reg Dunlop would be proud of the saints]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg Dunlop would be proud of the saints</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[axespray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Idk &#039;bout pots or kettles, but Warren Sapp acting like an angel and calling out the saints for &quot;dirty&quot; hits on the nfl network is making me wish Mike Sherman repels from the ceiling and karate chops him in the throat or something...
For Clifton!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idk &#8217;bout pots or kettles, but Warren Sapp acting like an angel and calling out the saints for &#8220;dirty&#8221; hits on the nfl network is making me wish Mike Sherman repels from the ceiling and karate chops him in the throat or something&#8230;<br />
For Clifton!</p>
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		<title>By: goldstardk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goldstardk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does the union seem to completely stay out of the fine, suspensions etc.?? It always seems like its just the players agent speaking out, but I think the union should at least be complaining about how arbitrary and inconsistent the whole process is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the union seem to completely stay out of the fine, suspensions etc.?? It always seems like its just the players agent speaking out, but I think the union should at least be complaining about how arbitrary and inconsistent the whole process is.</p>
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		<title>By: chocopoppy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chocopoppy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@truthfactory:The players want it all… They want to act like they are these brave warriors taking on these violent hits and sacraficing their bodies for the game they love. But as soon as their careers are over, they hop into a variety of lawsuits claiming they didnt know how dangerous it was and no one was there to protect them. 

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Precisely.  The same players who are warriors and who don&#039;t mind ending someoen else&#039;s career then want to cash in long after they have left the game and find themselves in daily pain.

I&#039;ll say it again -- if the union was really interested in the long-term financial problems of the players, they would structure a CBA so that a portion of all contracts include deferred annuity payments so that no player who stays in the league for at least a few years can possibly run through all of their $$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@truthfactory:The players want it all… They want to act like they are these brave warriors taking on these violent hits and sacraficing their bodies for the game they love. But as soon as their careers are over, they hop into a variety of lawsuits claiming they didnt know how dangerous it was and no one was there to protect them. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Precisely.  The same players who are warriors and who don&#8217;t mind ending someoen else&#8217;s career then want to cash in long after they have left the game and find themselves in daily pain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again &#8212; if the union was really interested in the long-term financial problems of the players, they would structure a CBA so that a portion of all contracts include deferred annuity payments so that no player who stays in the league for at least a few years can possibly run through all of their $$.</p>
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		<title>By: gmen1987</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gmen1987]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jacunn2000 says: 
Mar 6, 2012 7:36 AM 
As far as I am concerned, both Turley and Brees are class A D-bags.

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Goobs, As far as I am concerned, vous is a class A+ D-bag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jacunn2000 says:<br />
Mar 6, 2012 7:36 AM<br />
As far as I am concerned, both Turley and Brees are class A D-bags.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Goobs, As far as I am concerned, vous is a class A+ D-bag.</p>
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		<title>By: mistrezzrachael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mistrezzrachael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some way shape or form...almost every team has some type of bounty....though many not done thru coaches. Wouldn&#039;t surprise anyone if HC&#039;s such as Rex Ryan &amp; Fisher did same.

But mainly amongst the players.

Pollard has 3 notches in his belt..Brady, welker, and Gronkowski now. That must have been some serious gas money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some way shape or form&#8230;almost every team has some type of bounty&#8230;.though many not done thru coaches. Wouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone if HC&#8217;s such as Rex Ryan &amp; Fisher did same.</p>
<p>But mainly amongst the players.</p>
<p>Pollard has 3 notches in his belt..Brady, welker, and Gronkowski now. That must have been some serious gas money.</p>
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		<title>By: prrebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prrebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, for all of you &quot;legal beagles&quot; out there, please read this article and stop with the criminal charges BS.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82761060/article/legal-action-in-wake-of-saints-bounty-revelations-not-likely?module=HP11_content_stream]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, for all of you &#8220;legal beagles&#8221; out there, please read this article and stop with the criminal charges BS.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82761060/article/legal-action-in-wake-of-saints-bounty-revelations-not-likely?module=HP11_content_stream" rel="nofollow">http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82761060/article/legal-action-in-wake-of-saints-bounty-revelations-not-likely?module=HP11_content_stream</a></p>
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		<title>By: bigjdve</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a good point. Scott Fujita is one of the people that represent the players, who in the last CBA talked about player safety. However wouldn&#039;t it be ironic if he was collecting bounties on other players? 

The lawsuits from the former players are ridiculous to begin with, however if teams and players are  setting bounties that makes it 10x worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good point. Scott Fujita is one of the people that represent the players, who in the last CBA talked about player safety. However wouldn&#8217;t it be ironic if he was collecting bounties on other players? </p>
<p>The lawsuits from the former players are ridiculous to begin with, however if teams and players are  setting bounties that makes it 10x worse.</p>
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		<title>By: whatnojets</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every player and ex-player not worth the grain of salt will now complain that this bounty system hindered their professional career!

What a bunch of cry-babies!!

The NFL is done.....the Golden Billion Dollar Business is near total collapse!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every player and ex-player not worth the grain of salt will now complain that this bounty system hindered their professional career!</p>
<p>What a bunch of cry-babies!!</p>
<p>The NFL is done&#8230;..the Golden Billion Dollar Business is near total collapse!</p>
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		<title>By: l0yalr0yal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turley fails to realize that he, Drew, Jonathan Vilma, anyone.... they are just players.  I&#039;d like to see a player that&#039;s getting paid to play a game go to a coach and shake his finger.  That&#039;s a pretty quick way to get yourself in to some messy front office situations.  This lies on the coaching staff solely.  I love Sean Payton, and hate that he was involved.  I understand the &quot;bounty&quot; system.  It&#039;s a way for underperforming coaches to get their players motivated to play harder.  Gregg Williams was never that great of a coach.  Even when the saints won the super bowl, they were about the 20th best defense.  Note that you don&#039;t have to pay those guys like Brees, Colston, Meachem, Moore, Henderson, Nicks, etc. when they score touchdowns; they just go out and do their job, and the offensive coordinator and offensive play caller have built one of the most elite offenses to ever play football.  Gregg Williams, and his defense?  They never lived up to the hype.  So he tried to motivate them to play better, in turn resulting in him keeping his job.  He was trying to save his own butt, but who is a player to go to a coach and say &quot;what you&#039;re doing is wrong and illegal, and I refuse to continue to play for an organization that cheats&quot;?  If someone had, you could bet that whole getting paid to play a game thing would be gone in a heartbeat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turley fails to realize that he, Drew, Jonathan Vilma, anyone&#8230;. they are just players.  I&#8217;d like to see a player that&#8217;s getting paid to play a game go to a coach and shake his finger.  That&#8217;s a pretty quick way to get yourself in to some messy front office situations.  This lies on the coaching staff solely.  I love Sean Payton, and hate that he was involved.  I understand the &#8220;bounty&#8221; system.  It&#8217;s a way for underperforming coaches to get their players motivated to play harder.  Gregg Williams was never that great of a coach.  Even when the saints won the super bowl, they were about the 20th best defense.  Note that you don&#8217;t have to pay those guys like Brees, Colston, Meachem, Moore, Henderson, Nicks, etc. when they score touchdowns; they just go out and do their job, and the offensive coordinator and offensive play caller have built one of the most elite offenses to ever play football.  Gregg Williams, and his defense?  They never lived up to the hype.  So he tried to motivate them to play better, in turn resulting in him keeping his job.  He was trying to save his own butt, but who is a player to go to a coach and say &#8220;what you&#8217;re doing is wrong and illegal, and I refuse to continue to play for an organization that cheats&#8221;?  If someone had, you could bet that whole getting paid to play a game thing would be gone in a heartbeat.</p>
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		<title>By: xpensivewinos</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The players are the union.  The union is the players.&quot;  
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&quot;Einhorn is Finkle!  Finkle is Einhorn!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The players are the union.  The union is the players.&#8221;<br />
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&#8220;Einhorn is Finkle!  Finkle is Einhorn!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: evilmiketomlin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turley wants to know what Brees knew about the bounties, while everyone else wants to know what Turley knew about playing football]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turley wants to know what Brees knew about the bounties, while everyone else wants to know what Turley knew about playing football</p>
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		<title>By: vetdana</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What we have here is...failure to communicate &quot;
[ Cool Hand Luke]...On the one hand... the League doing every thing they can think of to promote player safety,  including making rule changes that emasculate the defense....and on the other hand, a bounty program in place that.... pays players to cripple and maim their fellow cohorts, which is illegal and many would say criminal ! Once this bounty system is proven to exist with payouts to players who make illegal hits that indeed DO cripple players...then we are going to see just how far some of these player law suites  filed against the NFL, are going to fly !The Commish has to do something about this or his NFL Safety program is going to be a complete sham !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What we have here is&#8230;failure to communicate &#8221;<br />
[ Cool Hand Luke]&#8230;On the one hand&#8230; the League doing every thing they can think of to promote player safety,  including making rule changes that emasculate the defense&#8230;.and on the other hand, a bounty program in place that&#8230;. pays players to cripple and maim their fellow cohorts, which is illegal and many would say criminal ! Once this bounty system is proven to exist with payouts to players who make illegal hits that indeed DO cripple players&#8230;then we are going to see just how far some of these player law suites  filed against the NFL, are going to fly !The Commish has to do something about this or his NFL Safety program is going to be a complete sham !</p>
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		<title>By: mikemcdorman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is the so-called bounty controversy any different to a manager giving a prize fighter a bonus for a win by K.O. over a T.K.O.?

It&#039;s NOT ILLEGAL in football to knock a guy out of the game, or to try to do so.

Rather, guys are supposed to try to knock each other out of the game -- within the rules -- which is all that seems to have been going on with the Saints and almost certainly with every other team in the league.

If the Saints were paying bonuses for unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, we&#039;d have a problem, but that&#039;s not the case!

The refs do a good enough job policing the game on the field, without need of dragging the league through the mud over a common practice that grown men have knowingly chosen to undertake together.

These sorts of witch hunts are just bad for the sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the so-called bounty controversy any different to a manager giving a prize fighter a bonus for a win by K.O. over a T.K.O.?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s NOT ILLEGAL in football to knock a guy out of the game, or to try to do so.</p>
<p>Rather, guys are supposed to try to knock each other out of the game &#8212; within the rules &#8212; which is all that seems to have been going on with the Saints and almost certainly with every other team in the league.</p>
<p>If the Saints were paying bonuses for unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, we&#8217;d have a problem, but that&#8217;s not the case!</p>
<p>The refs do a good enough job policing the game on the field, without need of dragging the league through the mud over a common practice that grown men have knowingly chosen to undertake together.</p>
<p>These sorts of witch hunts are just bad for the sport.</p>
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		<title>By: christopher525</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players are the union, but only so many players are truly above average intelligence. Sounds a bit harsh, but it&#039;s true. They make up the union, but the hire someone to head the union with no connection to them at all. Sounds more like Turley would someone, possibly himself, more closely tied to the league, who feels for the players, to head things up, instead of D-Smith. I know Upshaw ran it, but he hadn&#039;t played in an eternity, and had been closer to the corporate side of the league, which could have swayed the info he chose to pass along. Turley actually seems like a fairly smart guy, who cares about the players, and has dealt with major injury issues before. Maybe he SHOULD be considered as the top guy for the players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players are the union, but only so many players are truly above average intelligence. Sounds a bit harsh, but it&#8217;s true. They make up the union, but the hire someone to head the union with no connection to them at all. Sounds more like Turley would someone, possibly himself, more closely tied to the league, who feels for the players, to head things up, instead of D-Smith. I know Upshaw ran it, but he hadn&#8217;t played in an eternity, and had been closer to the corporate side of the league, which could have swayed the info he chose to pass along. Turley actually seems like a fairly smart guy, who cares about the players, and has dealt with major injury issues before. Maybe he SHOULD be considered as the top guy for the players.</p>
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		<title>By: xxwhodatxx</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here come the scrubs out the woodwork.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here come the scrubs out the woodwork.</p>
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		<title>By: salmen76</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/turley-wants-to-know-what-brees-knows-about-bounties/#comment-1611133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[salmen76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turley is whining because he sucked so bad he never got a SB ring. Bounty smounty, muchado about nothing. Anybody that don&#039;t like the vilolent-if-you-aint-cheating-you-aint-trying mentality of pro football then i suggest you switch to watching a girl sport like say, Golf. Ha Ha. All the other 31 teams are just jealous cuz the Saints have the best offense in pro football history. Goodell will fine the Saints like he did the Patriots for cheating. Hell the Pats won 3 SBs by cheating and nobody got suspended. Even if Goodell suspends coach Payton and a few defensive players that might still be hanging around the Saints will still host and win the SB this year in the Superdome. Turley is a whiney little girl trying to snitch out Brees. Ha Ha. Geaux Saints!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turley is whining because he sucked so bad he never got a SB ring. Bounty smounty, muchado about nothing. Anybody that don&#8217;t like the vilolent-if-you-aint-cheating-you-aint-trying mentality of pro football then i suggest you switch to watching a girl sport like say, Golf. Ha Ha. All the other 31 teams are just jealous cuz the Saints have the best offense in pro football history. Goodell will fine the Saints like he did the Patriots for cheating. Hell the Pats won 3 SBs by cheating and nobody got suspended. Even if Goodell suspends coach Payton and a few defensive players that might still be hanging around the Saints will still host and win the SB this year in the Superdome. Turley is a whiney little girl trying to snitch out Brees. Ha Ha. Geaux Saints!</p>
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		<title>By: broncobeta</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/turley-wants-to-know-what-brees-knows-about-bounties/#comment-1611131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[broncobeta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the same guy that threatened to kill Mike Martz...

Do we really care what he wants to know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same guy that threatened to kill Mike Martz&#8230;</p>
<p>Do we really care what he wants to know?</p>
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		<title>By: trbowman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trbowman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turley is the man, I&#039;ll never forget him standing up for his QB the way he did.

Maybe the Jets had a bounty on Brooks, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turley is the man, I&#8217;ll never forget him standing up for his QB the way he did.</p>
<p>Maybe the Jets had a bounty on Brooks, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/turley-wants-to-know-what-brees-knows-about-bounties/#comment-1611117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more I read, the more I hate Brees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read, the more I hate Brees.</p>
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		<title>By: pellucov68</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/turley-wants-to-know-what-brees-knows-about-bounties/#comment-1611113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pellucov68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a clasic piece from PFT:
http://archive.profootballtalk.com/All-SeinfeldTeam.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a clasic piece from PFT:<br />
<a href="http://archive.profootballtalk.com/All-SeinfeldTeam.htm" rel="nofollow">http://archive.profootballtalk.com/All-SeinfeldTeam.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: tacoslinger619</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/turley-wants-to-know-what-brees-knows-about-bounties/#comment-1611112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tacoslinger619]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course Skidmark  knew what was going on......He&#039;s the teams leader.  Losing respect for the  feel good story of the Aints..........Which is what they will become again  after all these fines and suspensions take place!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Skidmark  knew what was going on&#8230;&#8230;He&#8217;s the teams leader.  Losing respect for the  feel good story of the Aints&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Which is what they will become again  after all these fines and suspensions take place!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: whatigot8</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/turley-wants-to-know-what-brees-knows-about-bounties/#comment-1611111</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The same Kyle turley who grabbed a guy by his helmet out of the pile, ripped it off, and threw it down field.

Hello pot, meet kettle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same Kyle turley who grabbed a guy by his helmet out of the pile, ripped it off, and threw it down field.</p>
<p>Hello pot, meet kettle</p>
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