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With all focus on Peyton, Dolphins not even thinking about Flynn

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The Miami Dolphins signing free agent quarterback Matt Flynn makes a ton of sense: New Dolphins coach Joe Philbin spent four years coaching Flynn in Green Bay, and Flynn has already showed in limited action that he can play well in Philbin’s offense.

But that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. In fact, Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports reports that the Dolphins have yet to express remote interest in Flynn. The reason? All of the focus in Miami is on signing Peyton Manning.

If Philbin is on board with the decision to put all the emphasis on getting Manning, and not even thinking about Flynn, that ought to be a red flag for other teams: If the coach who knows Flynn best needs a quarterback, and doesn’t want Flynn to be that quarterback, other coaches may begin to think maybe they shouldn’t want Flynn either.

Alternatively, Philbin may have no say in the matter: Like other reports, Cole’s report suggests that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is the driving force for Manning, and he’s the one telling Philbin and G.M. Jeff Ireland that they shouldn’t even be thinking about any other quarterback. But then the question becomes, why hire Philbin at all if you’re not going to give him any say about the most important offseason move the team will make?

One of the fascinating dynamics in the Manning sweepstakes is that in many of the cities where reports are surfacing about interest in acquiring Manning, it’s the owners who are reportedly behind that interest. The day that Manning signs, sponsors will be lining up to do business with the team that signs him, and the phones will be ringing off the hook in the ticket office. Owners love the thought of that.

But owners ought to be smart enough to realize that what really drives ticket sales is winning games, and the way to win is to let the football people make the right football decisions. If Flynn becomes a good starting quarterback for some other team, the Dolphins may come to regret getting starry-eyed about Manning.

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54 Responses to “With all focus on Peyton, Dolphins not even thinking about Flynn”
  1. haileli says: Mar 8, 2012 9:29 AM

    Cowardly owners. I guarantee that if Miami signs Manning and he flops due to injury/ineffectiveness, Ross will make Philbin the fall guy. You can replace that scenario with any other owner and coach combo in the NFL. Let the medical, training, and coaching staffs make the decisions.

  2. gumbogumbo says: Mar 8, 2012 9:29 AM

    PayTon will demand figures the Fins won’t surrender. Flynn is the better long term option.

  3. rectumdamnnearkilledem says: Mar 8, 2012 9:30 AM

    I don’t think it is a knock on Flynn at all…Miami has a chance to get a hall of fame quarterback who might still have 3-4 great years left.

  4. austskate says: Mar 8, 2012 9:30 AM

    Stephen Ross will never learn. Highly doubt Philbin or Ireland has any say on this matter.

    LET THE FOOTBALL PEOPLE MAKE THE FOOTBALL DECISIONS.

  5. paleandpasty says: Mar 8, 2012 9:30 AM

    With all the inside info the Dolphins have on Tannenhill, RGIII and Flynn I would think that the know what they are doing. Additionally, who would pick Flynn over Peyton Manning.

  6. sj39 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:31 AM

    It would be a waste for Peyton to go there, he needs to go to a team ready to win now. I hope they do get Flynn, he is the next Matt Cassel.

  7. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Mar 8, 2012 9:31 AM

    This is why owners should be owners and not GMs. I’d rather have Matt Flynn over Peyton Manning anyday. It’s about building for the future, not going all-in for a year or two. Why don’t you ask the Vikings how going “all-in” works?

  8. cosmoman11 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:31 AM

    The Dolphins have a history of making bad QB choices. Why would one more surprise anyone.

  9. alewatcher says: Mar 8, 2012 9:32 AM

    Peyton Manning is, at best, a stop gap measure at QB. He’s 36, coming off a serious injury and a full season of not playing football. The history of QBs at that age is not good.

    Also, Manning has never been a great outdoor QB, and has struggled in playoff games.

    Buyer beware. They’re better off with Matt Flynn.

  10. burm61 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:33 AM

    Philbin’s decision to go all in on Manning says absolutely nothing about Flynn or his abilities. There’s a chance for Philbin to sign Peyton Manning. That’s why they aren’t going after Flynn. If Manning is healthy he is an elite QB. If Flynn is healthy he is what? Middle of the pack?

  11. randolph32 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:36 AM

    Can we please get the singing of Peyton done …. ANYWHERE!

  12. rpiotr01 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:36 AM

    “But then the question becomes, why hire Philbin at all if you’re not going to give him any say about the most important offseason move the team will make?”

    Because Ross is an ego-driven, meddling owner who doesn’t know, and doesn’t do, what’s best for the long term interests on his team on the field. He’d rather chase short term dollars and publicity than build a winning team.

  13. wryly1 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:36 AM

    We don’t know that says anything about Phillbin’s assessment of Flynn. At best Philbin ranks no better than 3rd in the hierarchy of Miami’s decision-making pecking order. What we DO know is that Fins owner Stephen Ross needs to make splashy, attention grabbing move for a big name player.

  14. ken0west says: Mar 8, 2012 9:36 AM

    Lets talk about the Dolphins not being interested in Flynn on Tuesday at 4pm. Cole does not know. All he just “reported” is that Miami did not tamper with Flynn.

    He probably also go that wrong, my guess is Miami has been tampering with Flynn and Manning for weeks.

  15. packattack1967 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:38 AM

    Not that this bit of history will necessarily repeat itself but look at the Favre/Jets marriage. Good piece.

  16. kane337 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:39 AM

    1. Free Agency hasn’t started yet. Flynn is still a Packer.

    2. Peyton Manning or bust.

  17. mataug says: Mar 8, 2012 9:39 AM

    If Flynn becomes a good starting quarterback for some other team, the Dolphins may come to regret getting starry-eyed about Manning.

    You know there exists another option – Peyton Manning turns out to be a great signing!
    That team hasn’t drafted a first rd QB in a long long time(Dan Marino in 1983 lol).

    The Chiefs look like an attractive option to me. Romeo can focus on the defense(they are very good on that front). Peyton will take care of the offense. They have pretty good weapons at RB, WR and TE.

  18. Patskrieg dot com says: Mar 8, 2012 9:39 AM

    Hey makes sense. If you put all your eggs in one basket it makes it easier to carry right?

    Glad nothing ever changes in Miami.

  19. jasndc75 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:40 AM

    of course, if they had shown any interest in Flynn it would be tampering – he wasnt released so isnt really a free agent for a few more days.

  20. jimmysee says: Mar 8, 2012 9:41 AM

    Manning is at best a one or two year band-aid. Flynn is a 10-12 year solution.

    Didn’t that lesson get demonstrated when Brett signed with the Vikings?

    Wake up Miami.

  21. FinFan68 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:41 AM

    There is no need to think about Flynn until the free agency signing period starts. Manning is available right now, not Flynn. I’m not sold on Manning’s current ability but I’m not sure about Flynn either. Philbin knows what Flynn is capable of. If he wants him, he can go get him when the time comes. Whatever decision is made, I hope the Dolphins get the guy they want and I hope it works out well in the end. This team needs a break at the QB position. Moore is OK as a fallback option. He showed ability last year but I don’t think he is a guy that can carry a team when necessary. The Dolphins need leadership and that is what Manning would bring at a minimum. If he can play like he has in the past, all the better. I can’t blame the team for wanting to improve as quickly as possible. Even if they get Manning, they need to look for a QB of the future. Maybe that’s Tannehill, maybe Barkley next year or somebody else.

  22. elleclouds says: Mar 8, 2012 9:41 AM

    Have you ever thought Manning is better than Flynn? It seems you’re posturing just in case the Dolphins miss out on Manning, you’d have a shameful finger to point. How do you actually know Philbin doesn’t have any say so when it comes to acquiring Manning? Way too much speculation disguised as facts.

  23. packattack1967 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:41 AM

    Just looked it up and theres a 3 year difference between Favre/ Jets and Manning/Now but remember Brett didnt have any serious health issues at that time. Just sayin’

  24. frozeninfear says: Mar 8, 2012 9:41 AM

    This is a surprise. I thought Flynn to Miami was a done deal. Three surgeries on Manning’s neck in the past eighteen months has to be a red flag. If I am Stephen Ross, I keep Flynn and Philbin together and leave the offensive strategy in their hands. Sign another real good wr though.

  25. kidpresentable says: Mar 8, 2012 9:44 AM

    Philbin’s first trip as a head coach will be a lot smoother with one of his former students than with a guy who thinks (and he may be right) that he knows more than his head coach – that’s not a knock on Philbin. All he needs to do is ask Mike Sherman how that went with Favre.

    If Philbin wants it to be seen as his team, with his offense, and his personnel, then Flynn is his guy. If he goes with Manning, it will be seen as Manning’s team, which is fine as long as Manning is there and producing. But when age catches Manning, or when the Dolphins have a down year post-Manning, the heat is going to be on Philbin because he won’t have a 28 or 29-year old Flynn leading a team, he’ll be looking for a quarterback once again.

  26. emmac13 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:44 AM

    Good. If Peyton lands in Miami. Then RG3 or Flynn in Cleveland the other in Washington. Henne with Sanchez in NY. Kolb Cassel, and Tavaris stay put.

  27. pkrjones says: Mar 8, 2012 9:45 AM

    The ‘Phins must really love Matt Moore or Tannehill. With this all-eggs-in-one-basket thinking, when they miss-out on signing Manning, Flynn will already be signed with somebody else. Ross goes all in & will come up snake eyes. No shortage of stupid owners/GM’s…

  28. lolb23 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:46 AM

    Rams are totally getting stuck with the 2nd pick

  29. sadskinsfan89 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:50 AM

    he could go to the skins. shanahan always does the opposite of what everyone expects. and everyone is expecting manning or rg3

  30. dohpey28 says: Mar 8, 2012 9:50 AM

    I don’t think a team being interested in 1 of the best 5 quarterbacks of all time vs a guy who has had 2 career starts is a red flag for the latter guy.

  31. youboettcha says: Mar 8, 2012 9:50 AM

    So you’re saying they didn’t learn from Not signing Brees? It could be a smokescreen and the Flynn deal could already be done.

  32. packfaninchitown says: Mar 8, 2012 10:12 AM

    Manning would be the “flavor of the month” type QB that could sell tickets whereas Flynn represents something the Dolphins haven’t had since the 80s, a potential franchise QB.

    I expect Philbin would be wanting Flynn whereas the owner is only concerned about a 1-2 year band-aid.

  33. miamike says: Mar 8, 2012 10:18 AM

    What the hell is wrong with all you IDIOTS suggesting Miami even consider Flynn over Manning! The neck is not the problem. John Lynch had the same injury when he got cut by TB. It healed and he went to Denver and had some pretty good seasons. Manning’s issue is his grip strength, which is getting. I’ll bet on the 4 time MVP with a chip on his shoulder over a guy with 2 starts vs. bad defenses any day of the week!

    South Beach has room for 1 more Super Star!

  34. dk56 says: Mar 8, 2012 10:36 AM

    Ok, I acknowledge that I am a Browns fan..I think that this bodes well for them..Sign Flynn and keep the 4th and 22nd to build the team further.

    They still need building pieces to be able to be competitive and make the playoffs.

    Hope it plays out this way!

  35. packfaninchitown says: Mar 8, 2012 10:54 AM

    What the hell is wrong with all you IDIOTS suggesting Miami even consider Flynn over Manning!
    __________________________________
    1. Philbin is going to the WCO, a system Flynn has mastered and Manning has never run.

    2. Youth vs age

    3. Manning will cost freak nasty amounts of cash, Flynn not as much.

    4. 1-2 year band-aid vs player one could potentially build a team around.

    Not saying Manning may not be able to do good in Miami but to say the choice is 100% and Flynn shouldn’t even be considered is ludicrous.

  36. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Mar 8, 2012 11:00 AM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    Mar 8, 2012 9:31 AM
    This is why owners should be owners and not GMs. I’d rather have Matt Flynn over Peyton Manning anyday. It’s about building for the future, not going all-in for a year or two. Why don’t you ask the Vikings how going “all-in” works?
    ___________

    If you have a Super Bowl contending team but just need to add one more piece to get there, why wouldn’t you go “all in” to add that piece? You can only build for the future for so long. I don’t think the Dolphins are a QB away from the Super Bowl, but the Vikings definitely were when they brought Favre in. Only a crazed Packer fan would prefer Flynn to Manning.

  37. tatum064 says: Mar 8, 2012 11:02 AM

    Things falling in place for either Dolphins or Browns to make a play for Flynn. Manning prefers an AFC team, so Houston could figure along with Jets and Dolphins, leaving Browns and / or Seahawks to make a play for Matt Flynn.

  38. trollhammer20 says: Mar 8, 2012 11:08 AM

    I kind of hope Manning chooses Miami or Washington. This will eliminate the Dolphins or Redskins from the Tannehill/Flynn/other QB market, and make it more likely Seattle will get a prospect with potential for a long-term future.

  39. hardpeaches says: Mar 8, 2012 11:10 AM

    Before the prospect of getting Manning in Miami was a reality I didn’t think he was a good fit.

    Now, having a healthy Peyton Manning lead the Dolphins for the next 2-4 years is sounding pretty good.

    I love how people who know nothing about Matt Flynn assume he’s going to be a long-term solution for anyone.

  40. hardpeaches says: Mar 8, 2012 11:13 AM

    And to all of the people who think Philbin is better off going with Flynn. If the Dolphins don’t get Manning and they still pass on Flynn, what does that tell you about what Philbin thinks of Flynn.

    Let’s all take a deep breath and see what happens.

  41. The Prophet says: Mar 8, 2012 11:13 AM

    Flynn is going to be the biggest winner in all of this. Teams are going to be so lathered up dreaming about Peyton, when they don’t get him, they’re going to want something else-quick, and will likely overpay for Flynn.

  42. gdeli says: Mar 8, 2012 11:14 AM

    I’d go with flynn. younger and more potential. more bang for the $.

  43. realitypolice says: Mar 8, 2012 11:26 AM

    paleandpasty says:
    Mar 8, 2012 9:30 AM

    who would pick Flynn over Peyton Manning.
    =============

    Someone who was looking to be good for more than 2 years.

  44. schmokes says: Mar 8, 2012 11:29 AM

    Or maybe it’s because Flynn isn’t a free agent yet and any comments about him could be viewed as tampering. But that’s not as sensational a story.

  45. basedrum777 says: Mar 8, 2012 11:36 AM

    Just so long as they get SOMEONE to QB this offense i’ll be ok. I cannot imagine Peyton wants to get involved with Ross though.

  46. kidpresentable says: Mar 8, 2012 11:39 AM

    “I don’t think the Dolphins are a QB away from the Super Bowl…Only a crazed Packer fan would prefer Flynn to Manning.”

    That’s the thing, the Dolphins aren’t just a QB away. They might be a QB away from the playoffs, but they need more to be a contender. By the time they build that contending team, Manning will probably be 38 or 39 whereas Flynn would only be in his late 20s.

  47. rajbais says: Mar 8, 2012 11:40 AM

    Matt Flynn has a chance at succeeding as a starter, but he shouldn’t be pursued until after the draft.

    The draft will likely have more credible looking players that look less risky to take on the team.

    The problem is that the media hype of players like Flynn is causing teams to be under pressure and possibly make a bad decision. If there weren’t any good players to take at QB in the draft guys like Flynn, Jason Campbell (come on!!! Whose production and W-L record was better, his or Carson Palmer???? We know that answer!!!), and other potential starting FA QB’s should only be signed when there is no other option!!!!

  48. tillemont73 says: Mar 8, 2012 11:50 AM

    they can’t talk about Flynn till tuesday

  49. garrygates says: Mar 8, 2012 12:11 PM

    Show me one quote from Jeff Ireland and/or Stephen Ross that indicates the Dolphins are “not even thinking about Flynn.” This headline is a journalistic crime and just another case of PFT’s gossip girls trying to make themselves relevant.

    OF COURSE they’re thinking about Flynn…. they’re thinking about and evaluating every last quarterback available, doing their due-diligence like every multimillion-dollar corporation would.

  50. kahnsbushymustache says: Mar 8, 2012 12:17 PM

    Now would be the perfect time to be focused on Flynn. While everybody else is drooling over Peyton, show Flynn some love and scoop him up before some other team can think about him as their “plan B”.

  51. duece5 says: Mar 8, 2012 12:28 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:Mar 8, 2012 9:31 AM

    This is why owners should be owners and not GMs. I’d rather have Matt Flynn over Peyton Manning anyday. It’s about building for the future, not going all-in for a year or two. Why don’t you ask the Vikings how going “all-in” works?

    duece5 says:

    Your brat breath has affected any sense of understanding that Manning is about 10 times more ready to lead the dolphins, an average team, to a 10+ win season. Flynn has had a few games, and my guess is he is the next Kevin Kolb.

    No one is going to pay a king’s ransom for a system qb like flynn.

    Good god, you are already drunk if you think Flynn is remotely better than Manning!!

  52. duece5 says: Mar 8, 2012 12:32 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:Mar 8, 2012 9:31 AM

    This is why owners should be owners and not GMs. I’d rather have Matt Flynn over Peyton Manning anyday. It’s about building for the future, not going all-in for a year or two. Why don’t you ask the Vikings how going “all-in” works?

    duece5 says:

    Actually we were an OT loss away from the Super Bowl, bounties and all that mess of no calls-NOW WELL-DOCUMENTED, and in 2009, there weren’t the bevy of qbs to choose and groom.

    Oh, and we kicked your f$@#%^n’ arse in 09, ya with favre in 2009!!

    So, the experiment was worth it……

  53. billsfan1 says: Mar 8, 2012 12:38 PM

    this is stupid… why would there be buyer beware by them chasing hard after Manning…if you have a chance to get Manning, why wouldnt you make that attempt… i dont think this is anything regarding Flynn. its not like we are talking about Kyle Orton or Mark Sanches, that would maybe concern me if looking at them over Flynn but idk…
    i think that was a really crappy point of nonsense

  54. jimmysee says: Mar 8, 2012 12:42 PM

    rajbais says:
    Mar 8, 2012 11:40 AM

    … The problem is that the media hype of players like Flynn is causing teams to be under pressure and possibly make a bad decision.

    ————————————————————

    There’s way more “media hype” surrounding unproven college players entering the draft.

    What percentage of first round QBs make it?

    Flynn at least has four years of training at the NFL level and has looked strong when given the opportunity.

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