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Glazer: Rams, Redskins strike deal for No. 2 pick

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The Dolphins would be wise to offer Peyton Manning more money, because their Plan B has now evaporated.

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that the Rams and the Redskins have agreed to terms on a deal that will send the second overall pick in the 2012 draft to Washington.  The Redskins undoubtedly will pick quarterback Robert Griffin III.  (Or, at the very worst, Andrew Luck.)

Glazer says that the teams will swap first-round picks in 2012, with St. Louis taking the No. 6 pick.  The Rams also get two future first-round picks and additional selections, one of which is believed to be a second-rounder.

The trade can’t be finalized until the new league year begins on Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET.

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301 Responses to “Glazer: Rams, Redskins strike deal for No. 2 pick”
  1. hcdbus says: Mar 9, 2012 10:31 PM

    I’m shocked that the deal was made this early, but I doubt that the Rams would’ve gotten a better deal than that

  2. imasportsfanatic says: Mar 9, 2012 10:31 PM

    Sounds like a typical Redskins trade.

  3. skinsdag says: Mar 9, 2012 10:31 PM

    are u fuking kidding me….. two future first rounders? This better work out for my redskinsss

  4. We'reFineThere says: Mar 9, 2012 10:31 PM

    lol

  5. eaglesnoles05 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:32 PM

    You couldn’t get me to give up 3 1st’s and a 2nd to move up and take Jesus.

  6. jeremywflores says: Mar 9, 2012 10:32 PM

    Dan Snyder, you did something right for once.

  7. sportsandtv says: Mar 9, 2012 10:32 PM

    Wow that sounds like a lot, poor RGIII won’t have help around him for years.

  8. Nikhil Balakumar says: Mar 9, 2012 10:33 PM

    RG3 plus no supporting cast…poor guy

  9. sb50 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:34 PM

    welcome to the NFC East RG3. Be prepared to get your ass kicked

  10. mikeyfresh25 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:35 PM

    RGIII welcome to D.C.

  11. derekjetersmansion says: Mar 9, 2012 10:35 PM

    Dan Snyder strikes again!

  12. ekj6955 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:35 PM

    Wow…if true that is nuts. I am not a Redskins fan, but a huge believer in RGIII. That being said, they better hope he is everything some think he will be and more! 3 1st rounders, a possible second, and maybe more is unreal. At least they have a shot at competing with the Cowboys, Eagles and Giants.

  13. finsfan4life1977 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:35 PM

    Good for the Redskins. I’m rooting for Griffin III to do great things. My Dolphins better get Manning now.

  14. tigers182 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:35 PM

    Good idea for a team with few quality players already on it, to trade all this for an unknown quarterback.

  15. Andy Gasparini says: Mar 9, 2012 10:36 PM

    Sweet Jesus.

  16. cheapseater says: Mar 9, 2012 10:36 PM

    Fisher just punched his ticket to a bright future in St. Louis.

  17. orf14fire says: Mar 9, 2012 10:36 PM

    REDSKINS YOU JUST MADE MY MONTH!!!!!!!! God I hope the colts grab luck so we can get RG3. Give me Vincent Jackson and a couple o line guys and watch out; THE SKINS ARE BACK

  18. johnnycash19 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:36 PM

    I guess the Browns like Colt McCoy. Because unless they draft Tannehill with the 4th pick (Huge reach in my opinion) they’ll probably start with McCoy right? He would….well SHOULD have a great WR to throw to in Blackmon though.

  19. mringhof says: Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    WOW!!! As an Eagles fan, not looking forward to playing the Skins twice a year with RG3, but at least he’ll be fun to watch. They gave up a lot, but if he brings them a Superbowl, it’ll all be worth it.

    Next up, Skins need to resign Fletch

  20. itsmebobd says: Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    god the redskins are dumb, seriously? 3 first rounders to pick up a few spots for a QB who is prob closer to to next jason campbell than the next michael vick, donovan mcnabb or daunte culpepper (before injuries and prison etc!)

    So dumb, dan snyder is obviously the worst owner in all of sports. He tries to built his team through Free Agency, overpaying, and giving up every draft pick possible. Then he puts all his eggs in 1 basket on a draft pick, and if he messes up he is screwed for the next 5 years! You know its pretty darn bad, when a bengals fan, is talking about how BAD your teams owner is…. wow

  21. thatdudewiththemarauder says: Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    What!!!!!! We are going to have a Real QB!!! I’m so excited! Hopefully we kept this years 2nd round pick. Hopefully RG3 pans out. All yall Skins haters will be hating for the next 8-10 years. HTTR!!!

  22. greenpacker says: Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    WOW they just blew it like the Bears did investing that much in Jay Cutler!! roflol

  23. thejuddstir says: Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    If this is true, the Rams literally raped the Skins’. I don’t know if I would’ve gave up 2 #1’s and a #2 for Andrew Luck and certainly not for RG3. I know RG3 is suppose to be a terrific athlete, but so was M. Vick and we all know what he has accomplished. Great athletes don’t equate to great QB’s and if fact it is usually just the opposite. No one is going to call P.Manning, E. Manning, Tom Brady, D. Brees, Marino, Montana, Rothlesberger, Warner etc. “great athletes” but they all have the cerebral “it” and I’m not convinced that RG3 has “it.” If RG3 were to match what M. Vick has did in his career it wouldn’t be worth the price the Skins paid.

  24. dolphincult says: Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    wow. what an amazing bounty. hopefully the kid is more like Cam Newton than Jamarcus Russell. Matt Flynn’s value just bumped up again.

  25. discosucs2005 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:38 PM

    So Manning definitely isn’t going to Washington.

  26. txbearmeat says: Mar 9, 2012 10:38 PM

    The Redskins are friggen retarded. Daniel Snyder and Mike Shanahan should be fired.

    3 first round picks and a 2nd? For ONE player?

    Wow. Just wow.

    Enjoy your 3-13 seasons for the next 6 years Foreskins.

  27. zachg10 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:39 PM

    How I hope this is true!

  28. boodog4849 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:39 PM

    Ha Ha it doesnt matter If the lambs ripped off the pathetic Redskins. Niners are still gonna slap you around for years to come.

  29. staffordsyear says: Mar 9, 2012 10:39 PM

    Great move by the rams for this draft and future picks since the redskins will continue to stink for the foreseable future.

  30. Soulman45 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:39 PM

    Three one’s and a two RGIII might become a great QB but that is a bit mush.
    For three years your first pick will be in the 30’s not the way to maintained a team.
    Oh will I well wait and see. What help will he have?

  31. gimmeabruschi says: Mar 9, 2012 10:41 PM

    That’s a lot of draft cabbage to spend for a big maybe. That’s a first rounder per 2 slot move with a 2nd thrown in to boot. Crazy.

  32. kd75 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:41 PM

    Good luck in DC RG3 with no first round offensive weapons or protection for the next 3 seasons out of your 4 season rookie contract.

    David Carr laughs in your general direction.

    Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
    From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
    The summer’s gone, and all the flowers are dying

  33. brownsfan39 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:41 PM

    The Skins traded the Farm! Hopefully, it works out for them. Good Luck Skins & RG3!

  34. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 9, 2012 10:41 PM

    Same management group that traded Long Island for a few bags of beads and trinkets.

  35. cincybert says: Mar 9, 2012 10:42 PM

    Glazer’s the best.

  36. mavix27 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:42 PM

    Too bad Shanahan is more of a RB coach…RG3 won’t flourish with the Deadskins. At least he’ll be making money from Snyder.

  37. watchfullhose says: Mar 9, 2012 10:42 PM

    Hype

  38. eaglesnoles05 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:42 PM

    Jeff fisher is set. Rams about to get good.

  39. phillyfan4ever says: Mar 9, 2012 10:43 PM

    Nice we get to whoop on RG3 now

  40. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 9, 2012 10:43 PM

    Their Skins be Red from embarrassment for the next 15 years. Traded away a shot at Blaine Gabbert who is same age as Griffin and was better in the Big 12 before he left early for the draft.

  41. lostsok says: Mar 9, 2012 10:44 PM

    Great move by St. Louis to get this done now. Stupid, stupid move by Washington. Once Miami signs Peyton the price would drop.

    Shannan just threw away the future on a QB he’ll probably ruin anyway.

  42. oscojoe says: Mar 9, 2012 10:44 PM

    Soon ESPN will say they broke this story! Good move by the Redskins. You need to draft a QB and develop not take a short term solution!

  43. bobulated says: Mar 9, 2012 10:45 PM

    The best part of this will be watching Jerrah Jones reaction shots for the next 10 years as Texas kid lights up the Cowboys with his arm and feet in front of a crowd that will love him despite the politically incorrect caricature on his helmet.

  44. goforthanddie says: Mar 9, 2012 10:45 PM

    Snyder loves making a big splash. Too bad he’s always jumping into empty pools.

  45. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 9, 2012 10:45 PM

    Red Skin in the anal sphincter region from being mounted by Rams.

  46. kuantan97 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:45 PM

    The Rams absolutely fleeced the Foreskins.

  47. 34longyears says: Mar 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    So Manning to Dolphins, Flynn to my Browns. Browns better get Blackmon and a stud RB in the first round. Sign RT Nix and Mario Williams. F Pittsburg and Baltimore baby! And Washigton gave up way too much for a dude nobody heard of before this past year.

  48. flaccounibrow says: Mar 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    Somewhere RGIII is smiling. No Cleveland for him!

  49. glenne81 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    I would personally like to thank the Redskins for making the Great Train Robbery look like a convenience store stick up.

  50. kane337 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    The Redskins don’t like to use draft picks anyway. Makes sense.

  51. chibears5 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    3 First Rounders to move up 3 slots? And then have the balls to ask fir an additional 2cd? Have the Redskins ever done anything right in the offseason under Snyder??? That is not just a bad move; It is Astoundingly awful and will set the Rams up for success like Herchel Qalker did foe the Cowboys.

  52. croghan1919 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    The Niners need to do a little more fine tuning or they are gonna be looking up at the Rams for the next 10 years.

  53. raideralex99 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    This trade makes the Raiders Palmer trade look like a steal for the Raiders.

  54. karlpilkington says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    Skins fan here. You people have no idea how bad this team needed this. Make fun all you want. I could care less. Welcome to dc robert….

  55. bucrightoff says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    I mean I kinda feel bad for RG3, he was doing everything right and looked so good, and now this overpayment will put more pressure on him. Snyder sure loves to overpay

  56. dgbk says: Mar 9, 2012 10:48 PM

    I guess RGIII is the second coming, smh and everyone calls Jerry Jones dumb. Unless the skins win back to back superbowls waaaaaaay too much top ten pick this year and more than likely top 15 picks the next two years plus a high second rounder.

  57. jimmysee says: Mar 9, 2012 10:49 PM

    Wow.

    (Ted Thompson is not GM of the ‘Skins.)

  58. silverandblack052099 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:50 PM

    Wayyy overpaid for RG3.

    And people say the Raiders overpaid for Carson Palmer…Two first rounders and “more selections”? Ge Out Of Town!

  59. trbowman says: Mar 9, 2012 10:50 PM

    Rams fleeced them – Griffin is good but he’s not that good.

  60. boswivel says: Mar 9, 2012 10:50 PM

    Snyder must believe that the Mayans are right, and just wants to win as many games as possible before Dec. 21.

  61. dlmcc1010 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:50 PM

    I like RGIII but thats alot to give up. He also has no running game ot help him and no WR’s to throw to. Giving up that much ensures it will take him a while to develop without any skill players around him.

    I thought the Browns were terrible for not trading up for this pick but I cant see giving up this much let alone beating this offer

  62. stevenfbrackett says: Mar 9, 2012 10:51 PM

    Whoa — Makes the Carson Palmer deal look like he was traded for pocket change and a stick of gum.

  63. shaggytoodle says: Mar 9, 2012 10:51 PM

    While that is quite a bit, there are factors that weren’t around 5 years ago, factor one was the Julio Jones trade, that helped drive up the price for moving up this season.

    The rookie wage scale, also made the pick have more value, because teams no longer have to fear giving out obscene contracts to unprovens.

    That is STILL a ton to give up, BUT if RG3 pans turns out to be as good as people say, and they choose to build through the draft instead of throwing huge chunks of money @ FA, this could be step one of getting them in the right direction.

  64. oscojoe says: Mar 9, 2012 10:52 PM

    For those of you who can’t comprehend the above It is not 3 – 1st Round picks. It is 2 – 1st Rd pickes & a 2nd to go along with switching there 2012 draft positions. (6th overall pick to a 2nd overall pick)

    Come on Man!!!

  65. deathmonkey41 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:52 PM

    Woo Hoo!!! Go Rams!!!

  66. ramcountry says: Mar 9, 2012 10:53 PM

    3 1st rounders? Rams cleaned up.

    Very well done, Fisher and co.

  67. bucrightoff says: Mar 9, 2012 10:53 PM

    LOL Sanchez extended!!! Redskins off the hook for stupidest move of the day

  68. phadedwun says: Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM

    WOW.

  69. gregjennings85 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM

    Man, Griffin had better like pressure, because he’s going to be baptized in it.

    Somewhere, Sam Bradford just turned down the country and pulled over to have a good cry. His girlfriend is in the car.

  70. rakattack98 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM

    Look at the teams who win Superbowls. They all have franchise quarterbacks. The skins cannot take another year of mediocrity with the likes of Grossman or Beck. We had to stop trying to buy other teams players and build a culture of our own. First round picks in general eat up cap space and with the exception of QB and LT, aren’t really the foundation of a franchise. The skins have a plethora of 2nd and middle round picks for the next two years. Teams are built through the draft, not the first round alone. I know nothing is a guarantee but this is what the Skins needed. The Eli trade seemed stupid at the time but in hindsight it was genius. I could not take another year of being the only team in the NFC East without a real NFL Quarterback.

  71. switch123 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM

    WOOHOO, YEAH BABY!, MANNING WHO!

  72. lilrob10201 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM

    2 future 1st rounders ?WOW….RGIII better not be a bust or its going to be hell in Washington.

  73. pudgalvin says: Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM

    I was gonna say, why didn’t the Rams hold out till the last minute to squeeze everything they could. Guess this is why.

  74. We'reFineThere says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    Well, at least Snyder can get back to free agent spending because there won’t be any first round contracts for a while.

  75. mrmilanp says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    Steep price but it was always going to be steep. Honestly, you can compete without much production from first round picks, you cannot compete without a QB. Look at the Patriots as proof.

  76. sadskinsfan89 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    this skins fan is sad no more. anyone know what the extra compensation the skins gave the rams is?

  77. luckysunday20 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    This set a horrible horrible precedent for trading up in the future 3 1st rounders Jesus man.

  78. tuckfanforlife says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    wish him the best in was, but was sold their soul for him, they better be right. i think was signs vincent jackson

  79. joecb91 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    Redskins got bent over the table on this one.

  80. kane337 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    Les Snead robbed those guys. WoW!

  81. raiderrob21 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM

    LOOK OUT FOR THE RAMS!!!! The future is very bright. Soon to be kings of the WORST division in the NFL.

    RAIDER NATION!!!!

  82. ant333t says: Mar 9, 2012 10:56 PM

    Where’s Commissioner Roger Goddell when you need him. Maybe he could veto this trade like David Stern did for “football reasons”.

  83. mc9399 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:56 PM

    THEY GAVE UP THE WHOLE FARM. this leaves only the browns and skins for flynn, if miami doesnt get manning. RG3 better be able to start asap but hes no LUCK

  84. switch123 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:57 PM

    2 First rounders
    They traded 1 for 1 with the third pick 1st

    Two 1st
    One 2nd

  85. jbcommonsense says: Mar 9, 2012 10:57 PM

    I am a huge Redskins fan and a big believer in RGIII, but 3 #1st rounders? That is way too much, if it’s accurate.

  86. oldcracker says: Mar 9, 2012 10:59 PM

    Thank you Redskins!

    As a Browns fan I was worried that they would be tempted to give up the farm for RG3. We have too many holes to fill yet. Big Mike can continue the rebuilding job, as needed.

    If Colt can’t be the man in Cleveland, we’ll be in a much better position next year to find his replacement. Meanwhile, RG3 will be running for his life.

  87. Soulman45 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:59 PM

    How many guns did the Rams have at the meeting?
    How many shots was fired?
    Did anybody get kill?
    How many was hurt?
    How long did it take the police to show up?

  88. astrosfan75956 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:59 PM

    That’s too much to give up to get RG3.

  89. grandpoopah says: Mar 9, 2012 11:00 PM

    I really like Griffin’s potential, maybe even more so than Luck. But two first rounders and additional picks is a steep price to move up 4 spots. And we all know Snyder can’t help himself from betting the team’s future on a single player with whom he is infatuated.

  90. thekingdave says: Mar 9, 2012 11:00 PM

    RGIII is the prototypical fit for the WC offense with all the naked bootlegs. Worth the price IMO.

  91. switch123 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:00 PM

    AN cleveland brown fans Thats why your team will never amount to anything with a attitude of That to much to give up. Good luck with
    Colt “snickers”

    Suck it all you haters LOL hahha

  92. torridphenix says: Mar 9, 2012 11:00 PM

    Great deal for the Rams; horrible deal for ‘Skins.

    Enjoy at least five more years of mediocrity Mr. Snyder.

  93. chadinkc30 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:01 PM

    Obviously there was an offer close to what the redskins gave up!!! Makes u think in the NFL if its better to be really really bad…redskins gave up all that just because they were the 6th worst team instead of the 2nd

  94. mringhof says: Mar 9, 2012 11:01 PM

    Watch them use the the 2nd pick to take Blackmon

  95. realfootballfan says: Mar 9, 2012 11:01 PM

    Classic bidding against yourself. Who were they outmaneuveuring to get up there, Cleveland? If the Browns wanted to do the deal, they would have made it known a while ago, and sounds like their staff, namely Mike Holmgren (a better judge of QB talent imo over the Shanahans) wasn’t sold on Griffin being this transcendent talent.

    Also, what if he has some kind of injury (he is injury prone) before the draft? You just don’t make huge deals like this over a month away from the draft when you were clearly in the driver’s seat for the pick in the first place. The Rams just played them like a violin.

    Furthermore, the valid question I raised a few weeks ago was how will Griffin respond to finally being “the guy,” rather than the overachiever playing at the small school with low expectations of him. It will be interesting to see because the Shanahans just staked their careers on it.

  96. twelvehundred says: Mar 9, 2012 11:01 PM

    Wow. Maybe Snyder figured the NFL was going to take them anyway.

  97. 0sakpo says: Mar 9, 2012 11:01 PM

    That was way too much. who the hell pull this off should had gone for the no1 pick…..or this guy is fooling us all..
    .

  98. xpensivewinos says: Mar 9, 2012 11:02 PM

    Hope Stephen Ross is taking notes. Right, wrong or indifferent, the Redskins had a plan and executed it. They got their guy, no questions asked, no mucking it up, no shooting themselves in the foot. Made up their mind, stuck to their convictions and made it happen.

    Until Ross hires a GM with the chops to get things done, the Dolphins will continue to circle the drain. Manning is 40 minutes from Dolphins HQ and all we know is that Manning flew across the country to meet with Denver and Miami really has no idea when they’ll even talk to him.

    Pathetic……

  99. TSizzleBallSoHard says: Mar 9, 2012 11:02 PM

    Now they’re going to go after V-Jax in free agency. Watch out for the Redskins.

  100. jus10jonez says: Mar 9, 2012 11:02 PM

    It makes more sense for Cleveland to trade with them cuz they could do the same deal but only give up 1 true first round draft pick of their own (trade spots this year + ATL pick this year & Cle 1st next year).

  101. schmitty2 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:02 PM

    boodog4849 says:
    Mar 9, 2012 10:39 PM
    Ha Ha it doesnt matter If the lambs ripped off the pathetic Redskins. Niners are still gonna slap you around for years to come.

    God, you 49er homers are amazing. You have one good year-ONE-and you talk all this smack like you’ve been great for years

  102. r502 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:03 PM

    Al Davis is gone. Enter Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones. The Redskins are priceless, they overpay for every single ‘ must have’ player that they have ever acquired, and they suck worse than ever. RG3 had better be good, that is a steep price to pay. Carson Palmer seems cheap in comparison, at least you know what you are getting with that trade. Danny boy and Jerry will continue to drive their teams off of the cliff until they let people who know what they are doing pull the trigger on personnel decisions. I cannot wait until Shannahan is fired, because after this, Danny is going to expect results yesterday.

  103. hoggy301 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:03 PM

    The HATE BIRDS are in full EFFECT!!!! HATERS…….

  104. bsal209 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:03 PM

    HAHAHAHAH LOOK AT ALL THE HATE I LOVE IT I LOVE IT ALL YOU SKIN HATERS HAHAHA BRING IT BRING IT

  105. rtk23 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Ummm…. It’s 2 first rounders, not 3. Can’t count the one they are swapping.

  106. mymanmccoy says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Thank-you deadskins! Now my Browns can focus on more of what they truly need instead of mortgaging the future like you did.

  107. stangz11 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Wow. There’s no way I saw anyone giving up THAT much to move up and get him. What a waste. I’ve always said that you should build the offense up first and then draft the QB. The Redskins have a pretty poor O-line, average running attack and barely average receivers. He’s going to have no one to throw to and he’s going to take hits (especially because he is a scrambling QB). You’re investing a lot of money in this kid and now you’re throwing 3 first rounders and a 2nd rounder on the table too? Not worth it

  108. wvufootball1976 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Worth every pick…go Skins!! Haters, start hating!

  109. nflofficeadmin says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Great trade for the Rams. Too bad for RGIII. I was hoping he would get a chance to develop in a more balanced division and really flourish in the league, rather than going to maybe the worst managed team teams in the league. Now he has to go against Demarcus Ware, Trent Cole and Babin, and all of Team NASCAR. Too bad, I really wanted to see this young man do well, but the deck is stacked against him – especially now that Danny traded the teams future for one player.

    Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
    From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
    The summer’s gone, and all the flowers are dying

  110. brownieelfrulz says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    I’m a Browns and Skins fan…I didn’t want either team giving up too much to get RG3.Snyder did it again, all in for one player.You’d think this guy has been burned by fire so many times , he’d stop playing with the matches? Burn it all down Dan, burn it all down. Man, I miss the days of Jack Kent Cooke!!

  111. audient says: Mar 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    Browns fan here. I was warming up to the idea of trading up, but Cleveland would have had no business giving up as much as this. He’s all yours, Washington.

  112. sguy2130 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:05 PM

    If this turns out to be true…I take back all the negative comments I’ve said about Les Snead. I can’t believe he pulled a bounty like this. Congrats Rams fans. I am shocked.

  113. giants56 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:05 PM

    Can you say Herschel Walker?

  114. jerryjonesmustdie83 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:06 PM

    Job well done foreskins! Looking forward to Jamarcus Russell Jr. twice a year for the next ten years or longer!

  115. firerogergoodell says: Mar 9, 2012 11:06 PM

    Thanks Dan Snyder! Matt Kalil is a Viking.

  116. chief67 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:07 PM

    Whoa Nelly , Dan Snyder needs to get fitted for his bushy red wig , squeeky red nose and size 20 shoes …He is officially the NFL `s biggest CLOWN !

  117. trbowman says: Mar 9, 2012 11:07 PM

    You got Luck who in addition to being incredibly hyped has to step into the shoes of one of the all time greats.

    And then Griffin (who had become just as hyped as Luck) has to reward a team that gave up a king’s ransom to get him.

    Lot of pressure on these two fellas.

  118. nflofficeadmin says: Mar 9, 2012 11:07 PM

    Danny made even Hue Jackson look like a reasonable man.

  119. joeflaccosunibrow says: Mar 9, 2012 11:07 PM

    With an O-line as bad as the Skins, RG3 will get to showcase that fine footwork we saw at the combine.

  120. zingo1978 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:07 PM

    Good God! For every one here saying they”re giving up 3 1st rounders please check the details. They”d be swapping 1st rounders this year which means they wouldn’t be giving up a 1st rounder this year.

  121. mikesvikes says: Mar 9, 2012 11:08 PM

    Wow nice job rams! Didn’t suprise me one bit that you gave up that much.

  122. colinsnooks says: Mar 9, 2012 11:08 PM

    Three first round picks?

    Damn, the Rams are gonna be good in a few years if they don’t totally screw it up.

  123. hoggy301 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:08 PM

    Can anyone tell me how many super stars are in the NFL that didn’t get picked in the first round? Lots of them; was Adrian Foster even drafted? I could go down the long list of great late pick super stars, but I know the haters will still hate.. Free agency beeoches!!!!! Lololol

  124. mianfr says: Mar 9, 2012 11:08 PM

    This is the worst trade ever for the Redskins.

  125. roamingabriel says: Mar 9, 2012 11:09 PM

    Hey Mike, the voting system isn’t functioning properly!!!

  126. skipbayless says: Mar 9, 2012 11:09 PM

    Wow, I’m a Birds fan and want this kid to succeed but now might learn to hate him. But really, 3 1st rounders and a 2 and maybe more. What is the point trading up to get someone YOUR NOT SURE will be a superstar. Also will be hard developing a young nucleus with RG3 when you dont have no picks to pick anyone with. But really the Skins. Booo

  127. brenenostler says: Mar 9, 2012 11:10 PM

    Heavy price but it’ll be worth it

  128. roamingabriel says: Mar 9, 2012 11:10 PM

    I think that Plan B for the Fins is Matt Flynn. In fact I think he may be Plan A for Philbin!

  129. tuben4 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:11 PM

    Great move by the redskins. 2 first rounds and a second for a franchise qb? There is a reason other teams we trying to get him as well. Anyone that says 3 firsts is dumb cause it’s a swap in the first this year.

  130. bodilyinjury says: Mar 9, 2012 11:11 PM

    Worst trade since Ditka gave up the whole draft for Ricky

  131. mlgamboa2 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:11 PM

    BONEHEADED Deadskins!

  132. lionsfan2086 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:12 PM

    Skins are my second favorite team since I live around D.C. I wanted them to get RG3 but they just gave up way too much. Swapping 6 for 2 and giving a second this year and next years first would have been the right price I think.

  133. miamigator says: Mar 9, 2012 11:12 PM

    That trade was never Plan B for the Dolphins, Mike.

    Plan B is Flynn.

  134. skipbayless says: Mar 9, 2012 11:12 PM

    On another note, someone actually hustled a team worse then the Eagles hustled the Cardinals. Even tho DRC looked as productive as a wet paper bag and havn’t used our 2nd rounder yet in the kolb trade. The to be determined 2nd rounder kid is the best part of that deal.

  135. robertallen1958 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:13 PM

    too much for him, too many holes, revolving door at running back, o-line that can’t run or pass block, no wide outs to stretch the field, all they have is a TE not even gonna talk defense, even if they fix all the holes, its gonna be with everyone else wash outs and with no top picks for years by the time its all good he will be ready to retire or injured, too much

  136. nomoreseasontix says: Mar 9, 2012 11:13 PM

    There firsts??
    Holy cow!! What a crapshoot….

    No way would I make that deal. If Griffin tanks, they’re screwed for a few years… And he’s hardly a sure thing, but I think he’ll at the very least be good.
    But maybe not the kind of good that’s worth all those picks.

  137. rabiddawg19 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:13 PM

    you guys are missing something very important, it’s 3 first rounders AND additional picks which include a second rounder…not just a second rounder. who knows what else was thrown in there.

    thrilled my browns backed away from this…way too much given away.

  138. rajbais says: Mar 9, 2012 11:13 PM

    Bye Bye, S***tyhan … ahem, I mean Shanahan Family!!!!

  139. azheat says: Mar 9, 2012 11:14 PM

    If you wanted the 2nd pick you should have just lost games at the end of the year…

    When Mike Ditka traded his whole draft for Ricky Williams, I thought that was crazy.

    The Redskins just made the worst trade I’ve EVER heard of…I hope I’m wrong but that’s freakin crazy.

    Looks like the rams will have the first 2 picks for next 2 years…

  140. spenserhatch says: Mar 9, 2012 11:14 PM

    The best part about this is going to be listening to all the special needs kids ripping the skins for overpaying, when up until the second this was reported everyone was on his jock and wanted him on their squad. look, did they over pay? Sure. But the last Franchise QB they have had was Sonny, 45 years ago. I repeat, the better half of FOUR DECADES! Its time to pull the trigger. There were plenty of people griping that NY over payed for Eli, but how’s that working out for them? Would much rather overpay and get a potential cornerstone for 10-15 years, then swing and miss on another Rod Gardner, Patrick Ramsey, Taylor Jacobs, Micheal Westbrook, Kenard Lang, Fill in the blank….
    P.S. Skins very much under cap to fill O-Line needs and Strong WR Free agent year. Keep Hating Haters.

  141. benlighterhasablog says: Mar 9, 2012 11:15 PM

    Bruce Allen and Dan Snyder are lucky the NFL is cracking down on bounties. If Griffin isn’t a HOF level guy, fans will start paying Orakpo for taking management out of the game.

  142. ninerdynasty says: Mar 9, 2012 11:15 PM

    Leave it to the Redskins to do something stupid. I almost hope that this guy is a bust so that the redskins finally learn a lesson.

  143. lifetimeskinsfan739 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:15 PM

    It is hardly more then the bears gave up for cutler but for a far more exciting player.

  144. orcheon says: Mar 9, 2012 11:16 PM

    For that price, I think RG3 won’t live up to expectations unless he actually does fly.

  145. ernst90 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:17 PM

    Wow and i thought the owner of my favorite team (Cowboys=Jerry Jones) was officially the worst owner in the NFL but i’m pretty sure after Snyder’s move that makes him the worst owner in the league, possible any professional sports franchise….EVER!

  146. waccoforflacco says: Mar 9, 2012 11:17 PM

    I think George Allan made this trade. At least Snyder HAS the picks to trade.

  147. jason1214 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:17 PM

    Lol @Redskins

    RGIII will NEVER be worth that price.

  148. jontarbox says: Mar 9, 2012 11:19 PM

    Nice haul for the Rams, and I really like RG3 but that is a lot to give up… hopefully they can put some people around him

  149. sean21taylorrip says: Mar 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    as a skins fan for 31 years (my whole life) this is the first time that i can say we finally have a franchise qb, sweeeeeeet

  150. mcjon22 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    The positives to being Daniel Snyder, a billionaire NFL franchise owner, is that you can afford the best blow money can buy. Hence moves like these

  151. ezg1 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    HTTR, Skins are also $46M under the salary cap, so naysayers take heed! Congratulation’s to Shanahan, Allen, and Danny Boy, Well Done Gentlemen!

  152. 440shane says: Mar 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    Crazy part is according to same report, my Browns offered more and they still “gave” RG3 to Washington??? So confused by this. Browns offered 4, 22, 37 this year and #1 next year, by all NFL standards that is more, period. Instead Rams went with 2 future #1’s instead of loading up for Bradford this year, weird….

  153. profootballwalk says: Mar 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    It’s not three first round picks. They swap first round picks this year, and give up two more. Think of the difference between having three first round picks taken away by the commissioner, and having two taken away and being allowed to swap position with another team for the third pick.

    It’s still a heavy price, but you need a franchise QB. The Redskins saw that they couldn’t get one any other way. Why be ‘safe’ and keep being mediocre? I’d go for it as well.

  154. ninerdynasty says: Mar 9, 2012 11:21 PM

    I would have 2nd thoughts about giving out all those pics for Brady yet alone for a kid that has never thrown a pass in the NFL.

  155. smitty012 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:21 PM

    Gets browns off the hook, never gonna give up that much…..that’s crazy! Flynn, tannehill, weeden..

  156. ocho says: Mar 9, 2012 11:21 PM

    The Skins really traded early on this one, have to think the price wouldve come down some if they held out longer…that being said, is there a chance they trade the #2 pick for more pics than they gave up? o_O

  157. spenserhatch says: Mar 9, 2012 11:22 PM

    Oh, also did I mention the skins DO have a strong running game With Helu, Royster and Hightower coming back. 2 Upper Tier TE’s with cooley and Davis, and will probably end up with Oline help in Carl Nicks or others. Oh, I’m guessing they will make a run at V-Jax or Colston as well. The D was also playoff caliber for most of the year and is returning Key players Ala Jarvis Jenkins. Yea, Skins are totally doomed….

  158. pudgalvin says: Mar 9, 2012 11:23 PM

    “It is hardly more then the bears gave up for cutler but for a far more exciting player.”

    This absolutely more than the Bears gave up for Cutler, unless you think the 18th pick in the draft is better than the 6th pick and a 3rd round pick is better than a 2nd round pick. Not to mention the Bears got an established qb vs. a guy who hasn’t played a down yet.

  159. andyreidisfat says: Mar 9, 2012 11:25 PM

    And the redskins give up the future for a qb with a good 40 time. Nice good luck with that

  160. uscaint says: Mar 9, 2012 11:26 PM

    What if RG3 Pulls a Eli Manning/John Elway and says he won’t play for the Redskins?

    Not sure why he would, but I sure hope the ‘skins talked to him about this.

    Too much to give up in my opinion, but hope it works out for them; Rams got a great deal.

  161. gator2006 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:26 PM

    All that hype in the Suck for Luck race, but the true spoils go to the second-worst team in 2010.

  162. riggoscrew says: Mar 9, 2012 11:26 PM

    RGIII will be a great addition to the Redskins. Now with all that cap space, they can sign at RG, WR and any others that we need to compliment the team. Good move with the extra cap space we have. Looking forward to having a good QB for a change

  163. bigmike7914 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:27 PM

    The Redskins needed this they have a lot o cap space and a pretty young and talented roster they just lacked a qb and have lacked a qb for the past 15 years it’s the equivalent to what the bears gave up for Jay Cutler and look how that has panned out no superbowls, but they have something to build around , people overvalue first round picks and undervalue opportunity given to guys that are undrafted or late round picks and also if you have a team full of former high first round picks you either are going nuts in free agency or you suck every year an identity is being given to the Redskins and they are basically saying that with this draft this year we want to win and win now, you cant fault them for that.

  164. jwreck says: Mar 9, 2012 11:27 PM

    I think it must be past everyone’s bedtime because the comments above are just ridiculous. Think for a minute before you write. No one got fleeced here, the rams didn’t get away with something crazy. What clearly went on is that the Browns put in a bid of both their first rounders this year and Jeff Fisher called up his good buddy Mike Shanahan and asked him if he was interested in topping the Browns bid. Considering the Redskins quarterback situation, Shanny didn’t have much of a choice and was forced by the situation to go all in. This is not a case of the Skins madly hurling picks at the Rams until they cough Griffin up, this is a case of the Browns bidding 300 dollars on the Price is Right and the Redskins bidding 301.

  165. bearsrulepackdrool says: Mar 9, 2012 11:28 PM

    Going to be interesting when these two play each other this year. Rams are scheduled to host the Redskins at some point this year.

  166. bigmike7914 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:28 PM

    @Ocho …you have a point

  167. gator2006 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:28 PM

    Colts should fleece the Browns for an even better deal then re-sign Peyton. They could then draft Barkley next year with the Browns’ pick.

  168. digitaldonnie says: Mar 9, 2012 11:29 PM

    I love these skins fans…..u do realize they have no future 1st round picks the next two years. And how does the whole free agent thong worked out all those years? If RG3 is good, he’ll have no one around him for years. My opinion…way to much for him.

  169. tyjack09 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:30 PM

    Well a few things about this trade…

    Redskins: ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? 3 first round draft picks plus more for an unproven QB?

    As an Eagles fan, I love this. Not only have they just solidified that they are the worst run organization in the NFC East, but they will not be able to start building a team around him for at least three years. Wow???

    Rams: They are primed to do something really big here. With the right draft, and a few key pieces in free agency, they could make a push towards the top very soon. Congrats to them on finding the same fools that the Eagles did when we traded away a washed up McNabb. Kudos to you guys.

    Skins Fans: Well I am sure the RGIII jersey’s will start to fly off the shelves soon. Glad he can run, because with that offensive line, he will need too. Sorry that your teams front office does not see the other glaring needs on your team; i.e. WR, Safety, O-Line, RB, DB, and if London Fletcher walks like I think he will, LB… Well hopefully you can have some of the future star talent fall to the later rounds next year and the year after that.

  170. stl45fan says: Mar 9, 2012 11:30 PM

    Hard to turn down. Won’t help Rams too much this year with an extra #2, but for the long term, I guess a good trade. I would have rather gotten Clevelands 2 #1’s and another pick.

  171. AlohaMrHand says: Mar 9, 2012 11:31 PM

    Well the Carson Palmer deal is no longer the dumbest trade in recent years….Wowmthe Redskins are suckers.Im not sayingmGriffinsma bust but you give up that much for an unproven player.Stupid move,but then again Dan Snyder is a dumb owner.

  172. randomguy9999 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:31 PM

    RG3 has been saying for a month with a straight face that he’s a real choice vs. Luck..

    So the Skins just traded to a lower 1st this year… gave up 2 more 1sts and a 2nd outright for a guy who is delusional about his draft situation…

  173. chc36 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:33 PM

    spenserhatch:

    Yes, RG3 has the potential to be the franchise quarterback for the redskins for the first time in four decades but the problem is they gave 3 first round picks, which mean they get RG3, but for the next two years they have nothing to draft anyone who might be beneficial to him. No 1st round WR’s, RB’s, O-line, which means it’ll take the redskins spending a ton in FA just to get the pieces in place and if they don’t RG3 won’t start progressing until 2015, meanwhile the Rams will have their own draft picks as well as 2 top ten picks that they are guaranteed to get

  174. doe22us says: Mar 9, 2012 11:33 PM

    Its official a lot of people cant read, the deal once again is swapping positions, 2 first round picks i believe in subsequent years and a second. I repeat per the article, its not three first round picks, i could have counted at least twenty post that mentioned three first.

  175. wvufootball1976 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:35 PM

    Its called free agency…dont think we wont get our lineman and receivers. Keep hating, we love it. When you havent had a quarterback in 20 years…this deal was worth it. Anyone actually listen to Schefter when he said Miam and Cleveland made similar offers but were too late to the punch?

  176. raiders757 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:36 PM

    raideralex99 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    This trade makes the Raiders Palmer trade look like a steal for the Raiders.

    ——————————-

    Exactly!! They gave up the farm for an unproven kid who probably will never completely live up to the hype.

  177. pilot2011 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:37 PM

    Redskins saw first hand what Cam Newton did to them last year… I think that these hybrid qb’s are the next generation in football… It makes no since for the player with the ball in his hands the most not being the team’s best player and athlete.

    RGIII will be good in the nfl.

  178. tyjack09 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:38 PM

    @spenserhatch…

    The only thing you have going for you right now is well… Nothing… Which one of those RB’s actually finished the year as the starter? I couldn’t tell because each week it changed. Your TE’s… I will give you Davis, but Cooley is done and washed up. He can’t stay healthy. But what about Safety? Do you guys have a starter there? How about LB’s after you let London Fletcher walk?

    So now you think you are going to go sign every single high end free agent? Okay, well news flash, it hasn’t worked for your guys in the past, it didn’t work for the Eagles last year, so what makes you think they will make it work now? Keep on holding onto that pipe dream… Don’t complain next year when you guys have another top 10 pick in the draft and can’t utilize it. Same goes for the 2014 pick too.

  179. nfl1818 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:38 PM

    seems steep – 2 1sts and a 2nd to move 4 slots – right up there with most aggressive drafts trades ever – love the kid but ??? Rams get 6th pick this year plus will have logically a 6-12th and 10th-18th pick, factoring in Skins improvement (questionable assumption), plus another second, plus their own top 1/2 picks the next 2 years. Rams should be loaded 2 years out.

  180. skinsfanwill says: Mar 9, 2012 11:39 PM

    These Skins were in every game they played last year. Not to mention they swept the superbowl champion Giants. RG3 should make this team a helluva lot better than Grossman and Beck. Cmon VJ or Brandon Lloyd and it’s gonna be a monster year.

  181. worldsgreatest says: Mar 9, 2012 11:40 PM

    @spenserhatch I wish I had your confidence. As a long time Skins fan also, this seems like an awful, awful, awful, awful move. Quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. Even the great ones aren’t guaranteed to win a Super Bowl. What happened to building depth? I disagree completely with your assessment of the Skins being a playoff calibur defense last year. They were AWFUL. AWFUL!

    They have some decent pieces now on the defense line but Haslett just does not get it. The Shanhans are awful coaches. AWFUL.

    And Kyle is possibly the worst OC in the league.

    Helu, Royster, Davis, Will Montgomery, Chris Chester, Trent Williams (high or not), Bowen, Carriker, Arakpo…definitely a good foundation. But I would have rather had another year of draft picks that added to that, and if the stunk in 2012…another high pick next year. THEN you move up.

    A once in a lifetime QB does not guarantee you a championship. Cripes. Who is he going to learn from? Rex?

  182. seeschool says: Mar 9, 2012 11:41 PM

    “Oh, also did I mention the skins DO have a strong running game With Helu, Royster and Hightower coming back. 2 Upper Tier TE’s with cooley and Davis, and will probably end up with Oline help in Carl Nicks or others. Oh, I’m guessing they will make a run at V-Jax or Colston as well. The D was also playoff caliber for most of the year and is returning Key players Ala Jarvis Jenkins. Yea, Skins are totally doomed….”

    Buddy, we’ve all followed the sport here, and we all know overpaying a bunch of free agents is not how you build a team. If any team should have learned that lesson by now, it should be the Redskins. Buying Carl Nicks and Vincent Jackson for 100 million dollars is not going to solve anything.

    If the terms reported are the actual terms of the trade, the Redskins just sold the farm for a player that is far from a sure thing. The smart teams mitigate risk when they draft by accumulating as many picks as possible and not throwing all their eggs in one basket….the Skins just did the complete opposite of this. Terrible trade, does not make sense on any level. The 6th pick should be a chip that is valuable enough to not require so many additional draft picks. The Redskins obviously panicked.

  183. bobhk says: Mar 9, 2012 11:42 PM

    raiders757 says:
    Mar 9, 2012 11:36 PM
    raideralex99 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:47 PM

    This trade makes the Raiders Palmer trade look like a steal for the Raiders.

    ——————————-

    Exactly!! They gave up the farm for an unproven kid who probably will never completely live up to the hype.

     ——————
    Not a redskins fan but at least they have a chance at a franchise qb for the next decade. What do they raiders have? An aging guy with dimishing ability.

    Miami will be left holding the bag once again since manning is likely headed west. Ross is a loser.

  184. tyjack09 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:42 PM

    @wvufootball1976…

    So the same thing every skins fan has complained about for the last 10 years is what you think will make this team a winner?

    Okay, well it is a well proven process that great teams get built from the draft. Free Agency is just a way of filling in key position players here and there. Ask the Eagles of last year, and then go ask the players from the Redskins teams of the past 10 years and see how well that worked out for them…

  185. phillybird1980 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:43 PM

    Come on guys, this is the Redskins we’re talking about. I’m suprised they did’nt give up 4 firsts 3 2nds and stock in the team ! dumb a$$es

  186. autumnwind999 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:45 PM

    Major gamble by the Skins, but if RGIII turns into an elite QB it will be well worth it.

    A franchise’s fate hinges on the quality of its QB. If you didn’t learn that watching the 2011 Colts and Bears then I’m afraid you’re long lost.

    Which is why all the morons who thought the Raiders overpaid for Carson Palmer can quiet down now and admit they have no clue as to what they’re talking about.

  187. mgscott says: Mar 9, 2012 11:45 PM

    The best move the Browns have made since 1999

  188. doe22us says: Mar 9, 2012 11:46 PM

    I am also going to go out on a limb and say that the same people doubting RG 3, a most likely the same once that doubted Cam Newton last yr. I never watch college football, but from what i have read, heard, and watched this kid has a tremendous work ethic, a superior player than Cam, and he aint fat like Russel. So please stop it with your negativity and pass judgement or comments once the season rolls right along.

  189. skinsfanwill says: Mar 9, 2012 11:46 PM

    Those pics don’t mean crap. You can find talent in the second round anyway. They have talent and plenty of cap space. They will be fine as long as RG3 can throw that rock. At least he wont’ take 50 sacks like Grossman and Beck. The man can move.

  190. digitaldonnie says: Mar 9, 2012 11:46 PM

    hoggy….who os Adrian Foster?

  191. raiders757 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:47 PM

    @ bobhk

    I’m not trying to rip on the kid. I’m just saying, even if he’s a good QB for years to come, the only way this trade pays itself off, is if he wins the Skins a Super Bowl. He seems like a good kid, but he is a bit over-hyped and in no way worth what the Skins possibly gave up for him just to move up four spots.

  192. worldsgreatest says: Mar 9, 2012 11:47 PM

    If anything they should have traded down and gotten a second second round pick. Not up and two future first rounders. But hey, I don’t have nepotism and the worst owner in sports history to thank for my paycheck.

    Unbelievable.

  193. jziii says: Mar 9, 2012 11:47 PM

    Yo, RGIII,

    This is the time to call your agent (or Eli Manning’s agent) and tell him you don’t want your career flushed down the crapper playing for that dysfunctional organization. You won’t get another chance to start your career like this. Get out of this while you can!!!!!

  194. bigjdve says: Mar 9, 2012 11:49 PM

    Three 1st rounders and other picks 1 of which is thought to be a 2nd rounder.

    I think someone got taken for a ride, I hope it is worth it.

  195. jwreck says: Mar 9, 2012 11:49 PM

    For those who need more convincing on why the Redskins had no choice but to pay this price this year, consider the following. The Redskins had 12 picks in the 2011 draft. Of those, seven started at some point during the season. The Redskins beat the Giants twice this year. Not Prater/Tebow squeakers, but solid, incontestable victories. This team has nowhere to go but up, and should not be close to a top six pick for the next decade (knock on wood). If we take for granted that franchise level quarterbacks are taken in the top ten and assuming the Redskins didn’t have the ridiculous good luck to find a Brady style franchise quarterback in a late round, this year was essentially the closest the Redskins will get for the forseeable future to getting a franchise quarterback. That being said, it makes a tremendous amount of sense to trade one farm now and move from #6 to #2 rather than develop the team for two more years and trade three farms to move from #14 to #2.

  196. wvufootball1976 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:50 PM

    Look we did the aging vet thing, the high priced free agents, and last couple years we’ve laid off the FA’s got rid of Haynesworth and McNabb and tried to build thru multiple draft picks…no matter WHAT we do people are still gna talk stuff because its the Redskins..damned if we do, damned if we dont. Defense has been decent..the one thing we havent had thru all these rough years? A decent quarterback. Had we not made the trade then what would we be left with? More draft picks that even then could be used on players that may/may not pan out. Its all a crap shoot with the draft but we went with what we at least think is our best option.

  197. tangysizzl says: Mar 9, 2012 11:51 PM

    In the Redskins defense, the rookie wage scale has all but rendered the old draft pick value chart worthless. Still its a staggering amount to give up for 4 spot jump from 6 to 2.

    Does this now set the bar for future trades in the first round? Kind of makes the Falcons jump to 6 last year seem like a good deal.

  198. dlr4skins says: Mar 9, 2012 11:51 PM

    1. RG3 AND VICK ARE NOT CLOSE TO THE SAME. RG3 I’M SURE SCORED MUCH, MUCH HIGHER ON THE OL’ ROY WONDERLICH SCORE. I BET THE EAGLES RUN A NEW DEFENSE FOR AT LEAST 2 GAMES.

    2. THE PICK IS WORTH MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN IN THE PAST DUE TO THE NEW LIMITED PAY SCALE. THE REDSKINS WILL DRAFT RG3 AND STILL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY (SAVED ON HIS SALARY ALONE) TO SIGN A QUALITY FREE AGENT OR TWO!

    3. SHANNY HAS NEVER HAD A MOBILE QB WHO IS SO ATHLETIC, NOT EVEN ELWAY.

    4. THE SKINS ARE ALWAYS POOR ENOUGH TO PICK EARLY, BUT NEVER ENOUGH TO GET CLOSER THAN THE SIXTH PICK.

    5. RAMS DID WELL, BUT WILL NEED TO REPLACE BRADFORD AS HE WILL NOT BE THE ANSWER AND COULD HAVE DONE SO HERE AND TRADED BRADFORD.

    6. DRAFT PICKS ARE OVER-OVER-OVER-RATED AS THERE ARE FAR MORE BUSTS OR DISAPPOINTMENTS THAN STARTERS. NOTICE HOW 300 NEWBIES ARRIVE (DRAFTED AND UNDRAFTED) BUT HOW MANY LAST 3+ YEARS?

    7. AFTER A FEW YEARS OF THE ROOKIE PAY SCALE, WE WILL FIND THIS TRADE AS FAIR VALUE.

    8. RG3 DOES NOT OWN, INJURE, OR HAVE AN ULTIMATE DOG FIGHTING CIRCUIT.

    9. OTHER TEAMS WERE OFFERING CLOSE TO THE SAME IN NUMBER AND PLACE OF DRAFT PICKS.

    10. HE WILL BE FAR BETTER THAN FIRST ROUND QB PICKS LAST YEAR.

    11. REX GROSSMAN & JOHNNY BECK. ENOUGH SAID.

  199. seeschool says: Mar 9, 2012 11:52 PM

    “Its official a lot of people cant read, the deal once again is swapping positions, 2 first round picks i believe in subsequent years and a second. I repeat per the article, its not three first round picks, i could have counted at least twenty post that mentioned three first.”

    I can read, and I can count.

    To Washington:

    2nd overall pick in 2012

    To St.Louis

    6th overall pick in 2012 number one
    future first round pick number two
    another future first round pick number three!!!

    You know though, if you want to pretend the first rounder swapped this year doesn’t count, go ahead, if that helps.

  200. applecool1981 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:54 PM

    lifetimeskinsfan739 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:15 PM

    “It is hardly more then the bears gave up for cutler but for a far more exciting player.”

    The Bears gave up two first round picks (18th in 2009 and their first in the next years draft) plus a third rounder (84th pick that year) and a good veteran QB in Kyle Orton (who might have been worth a 4th round pick at best) to get Cutler, who was considered an elite QB at that time. The Bears also got the Broncos 5th round pick (140 overall) in that year’s draft.

    The Redskins gave up the 6th pick in this years draft, next year’s 1st, and 2014 1st plus, what’s believed to be another second round pick that is hopefully not in this year’s draft for their sake, for the 2cd pick in the draft.

    How are they even close? The Redskins give up the 6th pick, compared to the Bears who gave up the 18th pick. Both teams gave up their 1st round pick the next year but the Skins gave up their pick for the year after that, too, to just move up four spots. Both picks could be the number one pick in each draft. Two middle of the round, first round picks along with that third to get a proven young QB who was expect to be in upper echelon of QB’s. All the skins get is to move up four spots.

  201. chibears5 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:57 PM

    What does RG3 have to accomplish to make this worth the huge investment? Ton of pressure for a guy to start off. Makes zero sense in an NFL that has seen Drew Brees, Jay Cutler, Peyton Manning, Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer, Matt Schaub, Mike Vick, & Brett Favre all available over the past years. And they were established NFL QB’s. Who is he going to throw to? Worst single move in league history.

  202. langm12 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:58 PM

    The Rams are going to have picks in the top ten for the next 2 years and It won’t even be there fault. The Skins better have a solid free agency plan to bring in some support for RG III.

  203. thatdudewiththemarauder says: Mar 10, 2012 12:00 AM

    AlohaMrHand says: Mar 9, 2012 11:31 PM

    Well the Carson Palmer deal is no longer the dumbest trade in recent years….Wowmthe Redskins are suckers.Im not sayingmGriffinsma bust but you give up that much for an unproven player.Stupid move,but then again Dan Snyder is a dumb owner.

    It is called a space bar buddy. The Redskins would have been in the playoff hunt if we had a real QB. The Palmer trade is still the dumbest trade made in recent years. It would have been dumb if the Skins did this for Weeden, which the Raiders did, but older Carlson Palmer. When the Skins are making the playoffs year after year, all you haters will be crying. Sounds like all you idiots last year with Cam. We will see. I feel like the old spice guy. I’m so F N Happy!! HTTR!!!

  204. applecool1981 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:00 AM

    wvufootball1976 says: Mar 9, 2012 11:50 PM

    “Look we did the aging vet thing, the high priced free agents, and last couple years we’ve laid off the FA’s got rid of Haynesworth and McNabb and tried to build thru multiple draft picks…no matter WHAT we do people are still gna talk stuff because its the Redskins..damned if we do, damned if we dont. Defense has been decent..the one thing we havent had thru all these rough years? A decent quarterback. Had we not made the trade then what would we be left with? More draft picks that even then could be used on players that may/may not pan out. Its all a crap shoot with the draft but we went with what we at least think is our best option.”

    Matt Flynn. I’m not saying that he will turn out to be as good as RGIII but they could’ve used all of those draft picks to build around him instead of giving up the 6th pick and the next two years’ firsts, which either or both could end up being the first pick of that year’s draft just to move up 4 spot and grab an equally unproven player, despite how much of an athletically gifted freak that he might be.

  205. alldayvikings says: Mar 10, 2012 12:02 AM

    Damn…if only the Vikings didn’t beat the redskins on xmas eve we could of got this trade.

  206. httr73 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:03 AM

    It’s net loss of 3 picks for the Skins. They give up 4 picks and get 1 pick…4-1=3. We knew the price was going to be higher than what was paid for Eli given the rookie wage scale. Reports indicate that the Browns were offering something close and Miami was getting itchy with Peyton visiting other teams. Did the Rams get a great deal? You bet. Did the Redskins have to do this. Yep. Nobody knows if this is a good trade or not and nobody will know for several years.

  207. jeremycrowhurst says: Mar 10, 2012 12:04 AM

    Yes, it’s hard to believe the Redskins have decided to forego the three blue-chip studs that their crackerjack drafting braintrust, which everybody acknowledges to be the envy of the league, would have gotten over the next three years for one player, even a player as good as RGIII.

    Oh, wait….

  208. brenenostler says: Mar 10, 2012 12:05 AM

    I thought Matt Flynn was Miami’s plan B?

  209. bouwel92 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:06 AM

    Wow i dont even know what to say. All i no is the skins better be prayin RG3 is the real deal or theyll never here the end of it.

  210. stratus5ss says: Mar 10, 2012 12:11 AM

    Good or bad, this is a bold move. I hope RG3 is the elite talent they expect him to be. That is a high price to pay for any one player. This is a team that really wants to win.

  211. cowboyhater says: Mar 10, 2012 12:11 AM

    Ok, let’s get something straight. They are giving up 2 1st rounders. You can’t include this years, because they are getting the second overall pick. It was a ton to give up, but man, the thought of this dynamic QB being a part of the skins, with that huge upside is something the skins have been missing for well over 20 years. This team had to make that move. Can’t wait for next year, and there is no other QB this year, or in next years draft that has the skills of RGIII. Just to keep everyone up to date on the skins, they do have some hidden young talent at WR, and two incredible TE’s. Their O line has found some gems when our starters went out, and our D will only get better. So to say RGIII has nothing around him is rediculous. We will go hard at FA and pick up some key players that will compliment the current roster. This was the best option for the skins, and the trade had to be made. Can’t wait to see this kid in the burgundy and gold! HTTR!!

  212. nfl1818 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:11 AM

    Stop saying it 3 1st rndrs please.

    Good comparison is Giants swapped their # 4 pick in 1st for SD’s #1 in 1st (Rivers for Eli) – so moved up 3 slots – giving up a 3rd that year as well as a 1st the next year and a 5th the next,

    Skins move up 4 slots at cost of 2nd this year, 1st next year, and 1st in 2 years.

    taking out the 1st next year which both giants and skins surrendered (a wash), the diff is cost of 2nd this yr and 1st in 2 years for Skins vs 3rd this year and 5th next year for Giants.

    Skins got owned using this comp.

  213. soupgfx1 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:12 AM

    For all the idiots saying the redskins traded 3 first round picks.

    Remember they swap this year’s pick with the Rams.

    The redskins are giving up 2 first round picks and a 2nd round pick.

  214. worldsgreatest says: Mar 10, 2012 12:13 AM

    The Redskins won twice against the Giants, sure.

    But they also lost ten games. And not to stellar teams.

  215. snoqualmieterry says: Mar 10, 2012 12:13 AM

    I remember there was a running back named Ricky Williams that Mike Ditka over paid in draft choices. It was a terrible decision. I can understand swapping firsts and giving up next years first, but nothing else. The Rams will greatly improve with all those first rounders. They were going to take a WR anyway. As a Hawks fan, that sucks.

  216. mike8016 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:14 AM

    A desperate move from a pathetic Franchise.

  217. reach4succeed says: Mar 10, 2012 12:23 AM

    This is a signature moment for the Washington Redskins. We have our great QB finally. A player like Mr. III elevates the play of everyone around him including the new WR’s and new offensive lineman we will get in free agency. A great deal for the Redskins since they will get to the super bowl now and a great deal for the Rams for obvious reasons. The Redskins are a different team from this moment on.

  218. lolb23 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:29 AM

    RG3 – meet your new teammates – Vincent Jackson and Marquis Colston

  219. pdxninerfan says: Mar 10, 2012 12:32 AM

    Teams used to suck for years and be penalized by paying 100Ms in high draft picks. Now you suck for one year and you can turn it around fast and cheap. The Rams will probably pay less for all those picks than Sam Bradford cost them 2 yrs ago.

    Agree or disagree, there will be a draft lottery sooner than later, or at least a fierce debate.

    As a niner fan, this trade sucks.

  220. ramitbaby says: Mar 10, 2012 12:33 AM

    Rams now need to give Cleveland one of their 2013 #1’s to move up to 4 for Blackmon.

  221. CKL says: Mar 10, 2012 12:37 AM

    thejuddstir says:
    Mar 9, 2012 10:37 PM
    If this is true, the Rams literally raped the Skins’. I don’t know if I would’ve gave up 2 #1′s and a #2 for Andrew Luck and certainly not for RG3. I know RG3 is suppose to be a terrific athlete, but so was M. Vick and we all know what he has accomplished. Great athletes don’t equate to great QB’s and if fact it is usually just the opposite. No one is going to call P.Manning, E. Manning, Tom Brady, D. Brees, Marino, Montana, Rothlesberger, Warner etc. “great athletes” but they all have the cerebral “it” and I’m not convinced that RG3 has “it.” If RG3 were to match what M. Vick has did in his career it wouldn’t be worth the price the Skins paid.
    –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
    Did you just say Roethlisberger has a “CEREBRAL ‘IT’ ” about him???? Seriously? Those other guys, yes, they play from the neck up plus have/had good throwing mechanics, etc. BR is the exact opposite of all of them. If he DOESN’T learn to play from the neck up, his career will be shortened because he relies a bunch on escapability and his size (though he’s a pretty accurate thrower). RG III seems to be more of a Montana type (IMO JM is the most purely athletic of the other QBs you mentioned), RGIII is more athletic, yes, but also cerebral.

  222. shadowgm1 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:41 AM

    This is the end of Shanahan, Allen and all of the ENTIRE staff. Go ahead and print it. Too bad that idiot #1 who wanted the deal done still lives on to torture ‘Skins fans after this. Andrew Luck wouldn’t have lived up to the expectations of giving up three first rounders and a second this season as well. Griffin is smart, tough and a team guy. He is NOT a franchise QB. As the season progresses, it’s going to become painfully evident. Plus, all the hard work that went in to saving this team from Snyder’s self imposed salary cap hell by playing free agency fast and loose will come back with a vengeance in the years without a first rounder.

    As for the Rams, I think Les Snead had to ask if they were sure the trade was accurate. It’s a big risk to drop below Tampa Bay and expect Morris Claiborne to fall past them. With a stupefying haul like this, I’d be sure to treat them as if they were the last gold bars on earth. With careful and accurate scouting, this should propel them into contention in a couple seasons.

  223. gregjennings85 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:43 AM

    Just so all the Redskins fans can see it:

    Redskins get:

    2012 1st round / 2nd overall

    And

    Rams get:

    2012 1st round / 6th overall

    2012 2nd round / 38th overall

    2013 1st round

    2014 1st round

    That’s 3 1st rounders and a 2nd, to move up 4 spots.

  224. dcrams20 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:46 AM

    oscojoe says:
    Mar 9, 2012 10:52 PM
    For those of you who can’t comprehend the above It is not 3 – 1st Round picks. It is 2 – 1st Rd pickes & a 2nd to go along with switching there 2012 draft positions. (6th overall pick to a 2nd overall pick)

    Come on Man!!!

    ________________________________

    Thanks, Joe. I was getting a little annoyed too. Here’s hoping my Rams will make wise choices with this situation.

    Now, let’s see what the price is for that #1 pick in the second round!!

  225. gregjennings85 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:47 AM

    I’ll add this: I think the Redskins have been drafting / locating talent well recently; a-there’s a real possibility Griffin ends up better than Luck, b-I just wonder what the Redskins could have gotten with those picks.

  226. astrosfan75956 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:50 AM

    Highway Robbery!

  227. metalhead65 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:51 AM

    can’t wait to hear all the excuses when the redskins do no better or worse than last year and in the next few years for the lack of talent around him. sorry but he and the experts claim he is worthy of such a bounty so there better be results sooner than later.

  228. godofwine330 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:51 AM

    As much as I wanted my Browns to get him that is way too much and only Dan Snyder would be willing to pay that much for one player. I’ve been a Browns fan my whole life and we haven’t had a qb since Bernie Kosar 20 years ago. RGIII would have looked great for us, but 3 first rounders PLUS additional picks is far too much. This is like Hershel Walker for the Dallas Cowboys. We simply needed too much and 3 first rounders mortgage your future significantly. Add on maybe a second round pick, too?

    Too much. Again, better the Redskins than my Browns.

  229. countryskinsfan says: Mar 10, 2012 12:51 AM

    Good move skins. This will help draw in fa before the start of fa. now we need to sign a number 1 wr. Should be a exciting year for skin fans finally.

  230. aasimmons says: Mar 10, 2012 12:52 AM

    I love it, all you haters who don’t know how to hold a thought for yourself and continuously regurgitate what you heard or read. The Skins made a trade for an incredible player that doesn’t come in his form or ability very often. Half the teams would stab their own QB in the eye to have RG3 on their squad. Trading drafts for a “no name” as he’s been called is a weak reason to not do it. Those picks would have been used on other no names anyway. Most Great NFL players come from 3rd round and lower. Plus, being under the cap, the redskins will be primed to pick up established players to fill in the gaps.

  231. ripseantaylor214life says: Mar 10, 2012 12:54 AM

    It’s funny to see so many uninformed people on this site bashing the Redskins for a move that needed to be done at any cost. We have more talent on our team that most people think and that credit Goes to Coach Shannahan, Who took over a team that was old and with no Depth and he has turned us into one of the youngest teams in the league.

    RB: With a talented committee in Roy Helu(Speed/Receiving threat), Evan Royster(Power Back) and a Expected to be resigned Tim Hightower (Very good backfield blocker) I believe we are set at this position

    WR: Santana Moss is more of a slot guy at this point, But a very good Leader and a reliable guy for RG3 to have, Jabar Gaffney is a Excellent possession reciever and really stepped his game up when Moss got hurt, He was a great pickup last year as the guy who was traded for him (Jeremy Jarmon) didn’t even make the opening day roster for the Broncos, Leonard Hankerson showed some playmaking potential in his limited playing time before he was hurt, This is a position where we will upgrade at through FA, a good solid signing like VJ, Marques Colston, or Pierre Garcon would really boost this position and I have no Doubt we will sign someone

    TE: Fred Davis was a playmaker and was on pace for a 1,000 Yard season before he got busted for Pot, Hopefully he has been humbled and has learned his lesson, We also have Cooley who if he’s healthy will along with Davis give RG3 a much needed Safety blanket to throw to. I believe this position is Set and we actually are more talented at TE than most other teams.

    OL: Trent Williams was really playing well before his suspension, He was holding his own against top Pass rushers such as DeMarcus Ware, He could become a Top LT in the next few years, But after him and G Chris Chester (Who was signed last Offseason) We need to upgrade the offensive Line by signing at Least a G (Carl Nicks or maybe a cheaper G like Ben Grubbs) and also a New Center would be nice as well (Maybe Chris Myers or Scott Wells) at RT I think we should let Jammal Brown compete with Willie Smith, The O-Line should be a top focus during FA and the Draft

    Our Defense was Top-15 and was very good even though They saw the field way too much (wasn’t their fault that Rex turned the ball over so much) a 3rd year in the 3-4 should mean more improvement.

    DL: The return of Jarvis Jenkins who showed great potential during the Preseason should help a lot, We could use another end if we cannot re-sign Adam Carriker, and also more depth too, At NT Barry Cofield was very good and should get better in his 2nd year at the position plus the addition of Jenkins

    LB: We have a great tandem in Ryan Kerrigan and Brian Orakpo coming off the Edge, It’s Scary to think how they will improve with a better D-Line, at ILB we have London Fletcher (who I have no doubt will Re-sign) plus Perry Riley who Finally got the chance to start at the end of the Season and who showed some potential (Having Fletcher to help groom him will do wonders for his career), We also have some good depth with Rob Jackson and Lorenzo Alexander

    DB: At CB we have Josh Wilson who is better off in as a #2 or #3 B/c of his size, DeAngelo Hall is just plain inconsistent but I think if he does return he will get back to his 2010 form, We still should make a run at a CB like Brandon Carr, at Safety we Have O.J. Atogwe who when he was healthy was very good, LaRon Landry is gone unless he takes a 1 year deal, If he stays he could be a game changer for us but if he leaves we will give the starting spot to D.J. Gomes or find a replacement via the Draft or FA

    ST: I know they don’t really matter but for us these past years of Bad kicking has cost us a lot of wins, Graham Gano should be replaced and almost anyone will be a massive upgrade, at Punter we should re-sign Sav Rocca as he brought stability to the position for the first time in years, At KR/PR Brandon Banks should get some competition, and our ST unit which is headed by Lorenzo Alexander (who should of been in the Pro-bowl btw) didn’t allow a TD last year

    As for the Trade does it seem like too much right now? Yes but if RG3 turns out to be a Franchise QB it will be worth it and I really do feel confident he will Succeed, He has underrated accuracy, great speed, a chip on his shoulder for not being taken #1, he has great character unlike JaMarcus Russell, Mike Vick and a better work ethic than McNabb, He is a leader and he will give it his all to improve, As a Redskin fan I love this, We Need a Franchise QB and I believe RG3 will be our Savior.

  232. skinsfaninnebraska says: Mar 10, 2012 12:54 AM

    All you haters seem to be forgetting that the Skins have $40 million in cap space and a very solid defense in place already. Plus, Shanahan has showed in the past that he knows how to find talent in the middle to lower rounds. (Evan Royster and Roy Helu, anyone?)

    I know that making this trade and drafting RGIII is a roll of the dice, but there are no sure things when you are evaluating talent.

  233. crumpledstiltskin says: Mar 10, 2012 1:08 AM

    Never go full Ditka.

  234. redskins21fan says: Mar 10, 2012 1:09 AM

    As a Redskins fan, I would be excited to have RG3 play a long time for the ‘Skins. I am a little concerned about trading three 1st rounds picks for him. However, these 1st rounders are no longer there: Jason Campbell and Carlos Rogers, so hopefully it will turn out well. I will probably have a better opinion after free agency. The need a 1 receiver and add to the line. If they can do that, I think that will help alot.

  235. lasher1650 says: Mar 10, 2012 1:16 AM

    Huge price to pay by Skins and a great trade for Rams. There is a strong likelihood that the 2013 and 2014 Skins 1st rounders are top 10 picks as even if RGIII is all people believe he can be, his first couple of years in the NFL and particularly competing in that division are going to be difficult.

    As someone that lives in the STL, I just hope that this deal doesn’t lay the groundwork for the Rams to embark on a serious re-build that ends up bearing fruit in another city – although I am seriously concerned that is exactly what will happen.

  236. wwwfella says: Mar 10, 2012 1:22 AM

    Redskins qb’s in the last 30 yrs….Joe Theismann, Jay Schroeder, Ed Ruppert, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, Stan Humphries, Jeff Rutledge, Rich Gannon, Cary Conklin, Heath Shuler, John Friesz, Gus Frerotte, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, Jeff George, Tony Banks, Shane Mathews, Patrick Ramsey, Danny Wuerffel, Tim Hasselbeck, Mark Brunnell, Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman, John Beck….NEED I SAY ANYTHING ELSE!!!

  237. bmorethansteel says: Mar 10, 2012 1:23 AM

    RGIII’s career will be spent running for his life in an out of the pocket. Love how all these Skins fans think RGIII = Rings. I guess being losers for so long really has gotten to your heads.

  238. vikingsrdue says: Mar 10, 2012 1:23 AM

    RG3=Really Gave 3!?!?!

  239. yevrag3535 says: Mar 10, 2012 1:24 AM

    I love it, the dead skins will be door mats for many years to come. FAIL to the DEAD SKINS!!!

  240. 7ransponder says: Mar 10, 2012 1:30 AM

    THANK YOU St Louis, for making the Vikings decision that much easier and less complicated! Skol Kalil!!

  241. craigskins21 says: Mar 10, 2012 1:33 AM

    well you can all say this and that but this move had to be made and for all of you who say the skins lack talent, you don’t watch the skins,this team is filled with youth and suffered many injuries to starters ..mark my words the skins will shock many of you guys who are hating on this move….look at the panthers, sucked in 2010,get a qb and the whole atmosphere changed because of his play….give the kid a chance!!!

  242. scott29va says: Mar 10, 2012 1:41 AM

    The skins would have been better served adding quality players this year, sucking with Grossman again, and then going after Barkley next year. I see a mushroom cloud on the horizon, and it looks like Daniel Snyder

  243. skin94249 says: Mar 10, 2012 1:42 AM

    Listen up none Skins fans, who would you rather have coming out of college if the both came out this year RGIII or Eli Manning ? Food for thought !

  244. skinsfan4life123 says: Mar 10, 2012 1:44 AM

    I swear some people are mental. We gave up 2 1st round picks because we swapped 1 of them to get him to begin with, and a 2nd round pick. That’s an easy trade when our choices are Rex Grossman, Jon Beck, Kyle Orton, Payton Manning, or Matt Flynn to lead this team. We have 50 million under the salary cap so we will be loading up on FA talent to take the place of picks that might work out and might not the next 2 years. Because I’m sure as many know, 1st round picks aren’t always studs. We drafted 12 players for youth last year so we got younger. We need 2 w/rs, a RT and a LG and guess what. We have a solid run game, and a great TE combo. Our offensive will be better. This trade was worth it for us getting a franchise qb, and not stretching to take an unworthy Tannehill. Hail!!

  245. emperorzero says: Mar 10, 2012 1:45 AM

    Having the # 6 plus two high-second round picks along with having two first round picks the next two years, if the Rams can’t turn it around then the team should fold. Period.

  246. skinsdiehard says: Mar 10, 2012 1:46 AM

    Most folks on this site are idiots. The Skins have tried everything except this. Finally, they realized that a team must sell out to get a franchise QB. They are only giving 3 future players who will probably not play longer than RG3. Look at the Colts. You don’t need 1st rounders at every position when you have the QB. RG3 will make the team relevant and competitive by himself. They had to do this…..I say “finally”. Shuler, Ramsey and Campbell failed where RG3 will succeed.

  247. joebrowns says: Mar 10, 2012 1:58 AM

    I’m so sick of reading posts from people trying to correct other people for saying that the redskins only “traded” 2 1st round picks, not 3, because this years 1st rounders were swapped.

    LISTEN – Every single person posting on this website realizes that the Redskins only “traded” 2 1st round picks. What the posters are trying to say is that the Skins gave up 3, YES 3, 1st round picks to acquire RG3. In other words, for you idiots out there, The Skins will use, or “give up” (I’ll spell it out for you) this year’s 1st, next year’s 1st, and 2014’s 1st (FOR A TOTAL OF 3) for RG3 (along with this year’s 2nd and maybe more). THEY ARE GIVING UP 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS FOR RG3!

    We all understand that this year’s 1st round pick was a swap so stop trying to act like you’re so F’ing intelligent when you are in fact a TOOL!

  248. coolgato13 says: Mar 10, 2012 1:58 AM

    I LOVE RG3 !
    But I feel sorry for him.
    Very tough division.
    Lousy supporting cast in DC.
    No 1st round picks for 3 years.
    Plus the Shanahans….. = UGH!

  249. jedimasterbates says: Mar 10, 2012 2:00 AM

    LOL Deadskins you actually gave up your 2nd in 2012 and the next 2 first rounders and it’s not even for Luck? This could trump the Cowboys/Vikings Herschel Walker trade

  250. joebrowns says: Mar 10, 2012 2:02 AM

    And by the way; good luck to RG3 but more importantly, GO BROWNS!

  251. adlent says: Mar 10, 2012 2:18 AM

    “RG3 plus no supporting cast…poor guy”

    —————–

    It is pretty easy to kill the Skins because they are easy targets due to the franchise futility over the last 20 years, but a lot of these comments are short sighted.

    1) Barring free agency, RGIII has a better supporting cast today than Luck will have in Indy.

    2) Atlanta swapped 2011 first rounders, gave a second and fourth and then gave 2012 first and fourths for Julio Jones — a wide receiver. In comparison, if RGIII is the QB everyone is saying he will be, it honestly could be a bargain.

    3) Redskins really had to do this. Signing Manning (which we didn’t have much of a chance) would be a bad option. Looking at the free agents QBs, nothing was worth the money. Bet the farm on a young, high-character guy.

    No one thinks we can do Super Bowl next year, but I like this trade, even if my gut tells me the price may have been high.

  252. capitaloffense says: Mar 10, 2012 2:19 AM

    So obvious that most of the posters no NOTHING about Redskin history. Firstly, Dan Snyder has finally matured as an owner by staying away from making football decisions. Secondly, this is the most consistency we’ve had at the coaching position in Snyder’s ownership. Thirdly and most importantly, the reason most Skin fans are soooo excited:

    Since our last Super Bowl (which we have more of than most of you chumps) we have had Rich Gannon, Cary Conklin, Heath Shuler, John Friesz, Gus Frerotte, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, Jeff George, Tony Banks, Shane Matthews, Patrick Ramsey, Danny Wuerrful, Tim Hasselback, Mark Brunell, Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman, John Beck. That’s 19 effin quarterbacks. Only Heath Shuler was chosen in the first half of the draft by the Skins.

    No price is too high if you believe you can find your franchise QB. QBs demand a higher price than any other position. It isn’t like we gave the farm up for Ricky Williams or something.

  253. chadgoy says: Mar 10, 2012 2:22 AM

    ATTENTION: The Redskins are giving up 3 first round picks (2012, 2013, 2014) for the Rams 1 first round pick (2012). If you get mad over this, saying its only 2 first rounders, only blame yourself for not understanding english. They are trading 3 first round picks. For RGIII. WOW

  254. joebrowns says: Mar 10, 2012 2:37 AM

    I’m so sick of reading posts from people trying to correct other people for saying that the redskins only “traded” 2 1st round picks, not 3, because this years 1st rounders were swapped.

    LISTEN – Every single person posting on this website realizes that the Redskins only “traded” 2 1st round picks. What the posters are trying to say is that the Skins gave up 3, YES 3, 1st round picks to acquire RG3. In other words, for you idiots out there, The Skins will use, or “give up” (I’ll spell it out for you) this year’s 1st, next year’s 1st, and 2014′s 1st (FOR A TOTAL OF 3) for RG3 (along with this year’s 2nd and maybe more). THEY ARE GIVING UP 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS FOR RG3!

    We all understand that this year’s 1st round pick was a swap so stop trying to act like you’re so F’ing intelligent when you are in fact a TOOL

  255. dhillca says: Mar 10, 2012 2:40 AM

    RGIII career is over,sorry dude

  256. defscottyb says: Mar 10, 2012 2:46 AM

    Is anyone thinking outside the box except me? Who says the Redskins won’t trade that #2 pick and get a couple first round picks or more picks in this years draft. Shanahan is all about stockpiling picks. Use that #2 pick to stockpile more picks, get a qb in FA and one later in the draft? They might just have something up their sleeve, but no one is thinking outside RG3. Or, maybe they do really want RG3… We shall see, Hail!

  257. defscottyb says: Mar 10, 2012 2:49 AM

    Also, who knows… after all this RG3 hype the Colts may just grab him at #1 and the Redskins take Luck at #2. Stranger things have happened… or see my post above, think outside the box. Or maybe the Skins really do want RG3.

  258. michfan says: Mar 10, 2012 2:55 AM

    Gotta love the Deadskins! Keep dreamin’

  259. defscottyb says: Mar 10, 2012 3:00 AM

    It’s late and I’m bored… last scenario and I’m done with this one. If the Redskins do not take RG3 or Luck with the #2 pick the are guaranteed to take WR Blackmon, then go get VJackson, Colston or even Randy Moss in FA and lure Peyton Manning with all that being said. I doubt this scenario will happen but that’s my 3 plan B scenario’s other than actually taking RG3 or Luck. Goodnight, Hail!

  260. mogul218 says: Mar 10, 2012 3:03 AM

    Can any of you haters even name who the Skins picked last year 1st round or the year before that? Swapping 1st rounds this year and giving up 2 firsts the next 2 years is worth it for a guy that’s capable of being the face of your franchise for at least the next 8 years. The kid has a head on his shoulders, raised by 2 parents in the military, smart, and will do so much for the Washington DC community. Rex and Beck for another year or some washed up free agent QB would have been a nightmare!

  261. ch8878 says: Mar 10, 2012 3:03 AM

    And everyone talks about the Raiders giving allot for Palmer ( a 1st and a 2nd round pick ) this is a Hershel Walker/Ricky Williams type trade.

    1st this year 6th overall
    1st next year ?? overall
    1st the next year ?? overall
    a 2nd round pick
    plus more

  262. hodag54501 says: Mar 10, 2012 3:20 AM

    I’m a bit surprised the Skins didn’t make a run at Matt Flynn, a young, schooled and experienced QB. They merely had to pay money for him.
    The Skins paid a heavy price for this pick.
    To all: the draft is a month away and don’t think that this pick might not be for Andrew Luck. What would prevent the Colts from selecting RGIII?
    Here’s another twist for the Colts: signing Matt Flynn and trading the pick for even more than the Rams received. That would rebuild the team in a hurry.

  263. messageboard2 says: Mar 10, 2012 3:33 AM

    People that assume the Rams know how to use 1st round draft picks all of a sudden need to look at the rams draft history the last 12 years.

    Second, don’t compare this to the Herschel Walker deal, Dallas got 13 combined picks and players with that deal the rams right now are looking at 3 extra picks.

    Third, are we sure we know what the other teams were offering the Rams wasn’t close to what the Redskins gave up?

  264. couldntthinkofaname says: Mar 10, 2012 4:02 AM

    boodog4849 says: Mar 9, 2012 10:39 PM

    Ha Ha it doesnt matter If the lambs ripped off the pathetic Redskins. Niners are still gonna slap you around for years to come.

    ________________________

    And I’m sure you’ll be enjoying the taste of Harbaugh’s special sauce….. You just posting this proves that you’re pissed off that the Rams pulled this off.

  265. maddogwhite says: Mar 10, 2012 4:03 AM

    At least when the Bears traded 2 first round picks for Cutler it was for a PROVEN QB. The truth is NO ONE knows if RGIII will be a success or not — at the end of the day it’s still a roll of the dice. I would’ve taken my chances with Flynn and kept the draft picks, because even if RGIII is any good, Snyder has left the cupboard bare.

    Giants, Cowboys and Eagles are probably licking their chops right now.

  266. levingibbs says: Mar 10, 2012 4:23 AM

    Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen know how to work the draft in the later rounds, and I’m confident they will be a much more aggressive yet still tactical group when free agency begins.

    I am totally satisfied with giving up anything to get a new franchise QB. Even if it doesn’t work, at least we tried to bring in a breath of fresh air for once.

    But with Griffin’s intelligence and skill-set, I think things are going to work out for him. But I guess we’ll just have to see.

  267. tigerphins says: Mar 10, 2012 4:33 AM

    @ eaglesnoles05 says:
    Mar 9, 2012 10:32 PM
    You couldn’t get me to give up 3 1st’s and a 2nd to move up and take Jesus.

    _______________________________________

    Me either, but then again I’m atheist.

  268. thyhootman says: Mar 10, 2012 4:35 AM

    Free Agency people. Plenty of room under the cap (for a change). I don’t particulalry like the 3rd 1st rounder but if we can get some OL help then we can ride out these 3 years we are cooking by gas.

  269. bearsoxass says: Mar 10, 2012 4:41 AM

    Are they stupid?

  270. geeforcer says: Mar 10, 2012 4:43 AM

    Wow, reminds me of Chargers giving up king’s ransom to move up a couple of spots and shatch Ryan Leaf.

  271. maatopdogg32 says: Mar 10, 2012 5:11 AM

    As much as I hate what the Skins gave up this move had to be made. RGIII fits the Steve Young mold of QB and he should instantly transform the offense overnight. Definitely has the smarts and arm the Shanahan’s look for in a QB and will have a better career than Luck. Now I expect them to load up in FA and surround him with a go to WR, Interior OL which would make his transition easier and is not coming into a situation like the Colts with no offensive skill positions to surround Luck. Expect the skins to push hard for VJax, Grubbs and Myers. This also buys Mike at least another 3 years to get this team on the right track. The Skins could also trade back into the 2nd round using their 3rd round pick & one of their 4th round picks. I can see the Skins already putting in Mike’s staple play the naked bootleg and RGIII is definitely made for it.

  272. plum13sec says: Mar 10, 2012 5:11 AM

    #10 Robbert Griffin III, QB, Washington Redskins

    sounds good.

  273. bobhk says: Mar 10, 2012 5:13 AM

    This whole thing is polarizing. It’s an all-in type of move by the skins. If rg3 turns out to be franchise qb for the next decade it was a great move. Otherwise this will set them back for years and get shanahan and Allen fired.

    We’ll just have to wait and see.

  274. draconian1111 says: Mar 10, 2012 5:22 AM

    Gee…a little lofty expectations from RG3 – the kid is good – but that’s betting the farm. Don’t blame the kid if he can’t do it all himself – he’s just one kid. My expectations are – that the Redskins – with or without him – will still suck. You give up a lot for one – and have so many other problems.

  275. blkdmon says: Mar 10, 2012 5:40 AM

    Some of you saying that the Foreskins didn’t give up three 1st rounders need to take a logic course.
    To aquire the Rams 2nd pick, the Foreskins gave up their #6 pick. That’s one pick they gave up. Regardless if it is a swap or not, the Foreskins gave up their pick. If the Rams said…..you know what, just give me your 2nd – 7th rounders for our 1st rnd. and we’ll call it even, would the Foreskins have given up a 1st rounder? No! So the fact that the Foreskins gave up their 6th overall means they did give up their 1st rd pick this year. So, that’s one 1st rounder right there. In addition, the Rams get 2 additional 1st rnd picks. Add those 2 to the original one and that’s how you get 3!
    If the Rams would have allowed the Foreskins to keep their first rnd pick this year, then yes, the two future first rounders would have been the only two 1st rd picks they gave up. Fact is, that’s not the deal. It’s three 1’s and a 2 and more for a 1.

  276. mgyo says: Mar 10, 2012 6:01 AM

    Clearly, the Rams did great for themselves, hats off to Les Snead. But it’s easy to overstate the value of first-round picks for the team that’s giving them up.

    Even if it was three first-rounders (and it’s not), would it be that unreasonable to trade Ryan Kerrigan, Trent Williams, and Brian Orakpo for someone who many think has a great shot at being a true franchise quarterback? (It’s an imperfect comparison – you get the general idea.)

    It’s a big bet, for sure, but the value calculation may not be as crazy as it first sounds.

  277. natcap1 says: Mar 10, 2012 6:06 AM

    for those who say skins will not be able to put any talent around RGIII, your wrong.
    Skins have 7 picks in this up coming draft and are more than 40 mil under the cap.

  278. ham1 says: Mar 10, 2012 6:12 AM

    lilrob10201 says:
    Mar 9, 2012 10:54 PM
    “2 future 1st rounders ?WOW….RGIII better not be a bust or its going to be hell in Washington.”

    I know you have been watching football. We have been in hell for years….since Snyder bought the team.

    Welcome to DC RG3

  279. gmen1987 says: Mar 10, 2012 6:15 AM

    Hey Deadskin fans, remember one thing..You can’t fire the owner. Brahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  280. natcap1 says: Mar 10, 2012 6:17 AM

    People please for the love of God its not three 1st and a 2nd. It is two 1st and a 2nd. The first in this upcoming drat is a swap. Calm down!!!

  281. guvsta says: Mar 10, 2012 6:26 AM

    Redskins going for Griffin III- are you crazy? They’ve traded up to get a shot at an OT lol

  282. FinFan68 says: Mar 10, 2012 6:45 AM

    That is a lot to give up for 4 slots. If the Redskins were picking in the 20s then it wouldn’t seem as bad. 2 extra 1st rounders plus this year’s (high) 2nd to move up 4 picks. They better hope RGIII is durable and as good as his hype.

  283. LaBarreJr says: Mar 10, 2012 8:26 AM

    People would be making the same comments if the Redskins signed Manning to some huge deal saying “now we dont have money to put people around him”. Everyone saying this was an awful move will be excited by time the season starts.

  284. stuartscottslefteye says: Mar 10, 2012 9:05 AM

    Mr RG3 has quite a few jobs riding on his shoulders….

  285. stuartscottslefteye says: Mar 10, 2012 9:06 AM

    Mr. RG3 has quite a few jobs riding on his shoulders….

  286. blackshirtz says: Mar 10, 2012 10:23 AM

    A+++ move here. The Redskins have plenty of cap space and should continue to with no first rounders the following 2 years. We all know the Skins are not afraid to spend in free agency… So I am guessing that the Redskins replace those lost picks with some players at the middle of thier carreer. Plus they will know what they are buying and to some degree will avoid the risk of first round busts. On top of that, the Redskins should be more of a middle of the pack team this year. that means that next year’s draft pick is worth less. The following year, the plan is to be better than the previous year… so again, the value of that pick decreases a little bit.

    I’m happy with the move! Finally, the hope for a franchize QB.

    HAIL

  287. skin94249 says: Mar 10, 2012 10:47 AM

    Let’s look at this in another light the Skins drafted 12 players last year in a 7 round draft. That’s 5 extra players that all contributed last season. With 6 picks plus a franchise QB in this draft, not to mention 40 plus million under the cap seems to me that we know what we are doing. If by chance, and judging on last years draft success, we get 6 more solid draft picks plus “THEE QB” and let’s say 3 FA’s, well do you think Miami, Cleveland, or any non playoff team, Including Philly and Dallas would trade places with the Washington Redskins…….. I think not !

  288. radrntn says: Mar 10, 2012 10:50 AM

    Have to love the east coast bias media…….funny how the raiders traded a number 18 pick, and the # 64 pick the following year for Carson, and that was way to much….

    They also said a 3rd pick was to much for Pryor who is bigger, faster, and played against better comp the RG

  289. skin94249 says: Mar 10, 2012 11:07 AM

    Last time, whereas RG 3 did cost us 3 1st rounders and a 2nd we only lost 2 1st rounders and a 2nd. At the 6th spot in this years draft was there any player in area of need left that was going to start for us day one ? Nope. Everything we need as a franchise could be filled in a FA. Great year for OL, WR, LB, and DB. Watch closely my NFL brotheran genuis at work.

  290. attyken says: Mar 10, 2012 11:48 AM

    The Saints got in trouble for trying to kill players….the Rams just killed a whole franchise. Wow!

  291. tluke25 says: Mar 10, 2012 11:49 AM

    This is one of the dumbest trades I have seen in all of sports. I don’t even think you give up 3 high first rounders and a high 2nd for Aaron Rodgers, and there’s atleast a 65 percent chance RG3 doesn’t even pan out as an NFL starter.

    If RG3 doesn’t become an elite QB (and most likely he won’t), this sets back the Washington franchise atleast 7-8 more seasons.

    You guys can all click dislike on this, but try to remember what I said 3-4 years from now when Washington is discussing about whether they should trade RG3, bring in a FA to compete with him, or flat out release him.

    But hats off to St. Louis. Securing 3 high first rounders and a high 2nd. Fisher is just the man to know what to do with those picks.

  292. wvufootball1976 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:45 PM

    People seem to not understand that despite giving up our 2nd rounder this year..we get RG3 and our ENTIRE draft this year is still intact. Then we gave up 2 more picks over the span of 3 years. Well done when ya think about it. You can finally get a franchise QB you find a way to do it.

  293. seeschool says: Mar 10, 2012 6:12 PM

    “For all the idiots saying the redskins traded 3 first round picks.

    Remember they swap this year’s pick with the Rams.

    The redskins are giving up 2 first round picks and a 2nd round pick.”

    So, the Rams had just decided to trade the 2nd overall pick to the Redskins in exchange for the 6th overall pick, by your logic that would mean that the Rams had traded the 2nd pick for 0 first round draft picks.

  294. seeschool says: Mar 10, 2012 6:16 PM

    For those of you who are challenged, here are the terms of the deal once again:

    To Washington:
    2012 1st round pick (#2 overall)

    To St.Louis:
    2012 1st round pick (#6 overall)
    2013 1st round pick
    2014 1st round pick
    2012 2nd round pick

    Now….class…..count the amount of first round picks that St.Louis has acquired. Did we all get 3? Very good!

  295. defscottyb says: Mar 10, 2012 6:55 PM

    Yes, the Ram’s basically got 2 future 1st round picks not 3 (just swapped #2 for #6 this year)… and a 2nd round pick. Good move for Washington, we need a QB and he better be good. But, anyone’s better than Rex Grossman. RG3 fits the Shanahan’s style on paper, intelligent and athletic. We shall see Redskins nation, get ready for Griffin.

  296. shaggytoodle says: Mar 10, 2012 7:48 PM

    It wouldn’t be an off-season if the Redskins didn’t overpay for something one way or another.

  297. trollaikman8 says: Mar 12, 2012 7:31 PM

    As a Cowboys fan I empathize with the Redskins.

    But look at it this way. RG III may turn out to be a stud under Shanahan.

    Jerry Jones gave up 2 First Rounders for one Joey Galloway and then again for Roy Williams.

    This move reeks of Synder overruling reason and logic.

  298. applecool1981 says: Mar 13, 2012 2:13 AM

    adlent says: Mar 10, 2012 2:18 AM “RG3 plus no supporting cast…poor guy” —————– It is pretty easy to kill the Skins because they are easy targets due to the franchise futility over the last 20 years, but a lot of these comments are short sighted. 1) Barring free agency, RGIII has a better supporting cast today than Luck will have in Indy. 2) Atlanta swapped 2011 first rounders, gave a second and fourth and then gave 2012 first and fourths for Julio Jones — a wide receiver. In comparison, if RGIII is the QB everyone is saying he will be, it honestly could be a bargain. 3) Redskins really had to do this. Signing Manning (which we didn’t have much of a chance) would be a bad option. Looking at the free agents QBs, nothing was worth the money. Bet the farm on a young, high-character guy. No one thinks we can do Super Bowl next year, but I like this trade, even if my gut tells me the price may have been high.”

    I don’t get why everyone believes that the Julio Jones trade is comparable to it or helped ease the way for the trade to happen. The Falcons gave up the 27th pick (1st Round), 59th pick (2cd Round), and the 124th pick (4th Round) in that years draft, along with a first and forth in the next years draft to move up to the 6th pick, a move up of 21 spots. It was late round 1st, 2cd, and 4th round picks in that draft; those picks are almost a 2cd, 3rd, and 5th round picks.

    This trade, despite being risky for the Falcons was even, especially considering it went along with the draft pick value chart. I understand that a trade to draft R.G. III will be paid above value but the skins gave up the 6th and the 39th pick in this years draft, along with their first round pick in the next two years to move up 4 spots to the 2cd pick.

    These are picks in the top 10 in the first and second rounds of this draft; many teams, especially the Patriots, have traded second round picks of that level for first round picks in the next year’s draft. The Rams should do that with that pick; can you imagine them with three 1st round picks next year?

    If the redskins weren’t giving up such high 1st and second round picks, then you could say that the two years’ following 1st round picks given up would be a comparable to the theory done in the actions and the price of the Julio Jones trade.

  299. nukaten says: Mar 13, 2012 11:10 AM

    theres #300 folks

  300. erictheclown says: Mar 14, 2012 10:37 AM

    good deal for both teams

  301. germanodin says: Mar 16, 2012 11:41 AM

    coolgato13 says:

    Mar 10, 2012 1:58 AM
    I LOVE RG3 !
    But I feel sorry for him.
    Very tough division.
    Lousy supporting cast in DC.
    No 1st round picks for 3 years.
    Plus the Shanahans….. = UGH!

    No 1st round picks for 2 years you goof…this years will be used on RGIII. Some people are really confused when they hear Redskins gave up 3 1st round draft picks

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