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Rams loved Blackmon’s Pro Day, may have traded down too far

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The St. Louis Post-Dispatch has a story in Saturday’s paper about Oklahoma State receiver Justin Blackmon’s Friday Pro Day, written before news broke that the Rams and Redskins had agreed on Thursday night to swap first-round picks.

We already knew that Blackmon ran well at his Pro Day, but the Post-Dispatch report makes clear that the Rams like a lot more about Blackmon than just how fast he can run 40 yards in a straight line. Rams receivers coach Ray Sherman was on the scene alongside director of college scouting John Mancini and director of player personnel Lawrence McCutcheon, and Sherman offered some lofty comparisons about what kind of receiver Blackmon can become.

“I thought he ran well,” Sherman said. “I thought he caught the ball well; he was very good. . . . I coached a Hall of Famer in Jerry Rice. Everybody said he wasn’t fast, and all I know is when he caught [the ball] nobody could catch him. And I went against guys like Michael Irvin. Those guys are football players. This guy — Justin Blackmon — is a football player.”

That sounds like a football player the Rams would love to take with the sixth overall pick in the NFL draft, but the question now becomes whether Blackmon will still be there at No. 6. Vikings coach Leslie Frazier and Browns coach Pat Shurmur were both at Blackmon’s Pro Day, and Shurmur made a specific point of approaching Blackmon afterward and telling him how much he liked what he saw. With the Vikings picking third and the Browns picking fourth, there’s a good chance that Blackmon will be off the board before the Rams pick sixth.

The other player the Rams are said to be enamored with, LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, also may go to the Vikings, Browns or, at No. 5, the Buccaneers. So the Rams may have traded down too far to get either of the players they’re reportedly most interested in. Mel Kiper suggested on Friday that both Blackmon and Claiborne will be gone, and that the Rams may be choosing between Iowa offensive tackle Riley Reiff and Memphis defensive tackle Dontari Poe.

For the Rams, this trade was about a lot more than one player, and this trade will be defined not simply by what they do with the sixth overall pick but also with what the Rams do with the other two first-round picks and the second-round pick they got from the Redskins. That’s good, because the Rams may find that the players they’re hoping for at No. 6 aren’t there for the taking.

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  1. thejabronisayz says: Mar 10, 2012 11:47 AM

    The Vikings will select Kalil, and the Bucs will select Claiborne. That much we know.

    The Browns desperately tried to trade up to #2 but were too stubborn (or smart, depending on your point of view) to give up the same bounty that the Redskins were offering. They clearly want a quarterback and do not believe that Colt McCoy is the future. If Ryan Tannehill has a big pro day on March 29, then the Browns sill be selecting him as their quarterback, and suddenly Blackmon is there at #6 for the Rams.

  2. fishfiletkray says: Mar 10, 2012 11:49 AM

    Or they can trade down and keep stockpiling.

  3. bartpkelly says: Mar 10, 2012 11:50 AM

    Trade with the Browns. Give up 2 1st rd picks. Idiots.

  4. cdrion21 says: Mar 10, 2012 11:50 AM

    Who cares!! With all those picks they can take Floyd at 6 and Hill from Gt in the second.

  5. cannonballdookie says: Mar 10, 2012 11:51 AM

    Well if the leadership in Cleveland still has a pulse, Blackmon won’t make it past them and they will get a real QB to throw him the ball.

    St Louis may get screwed by the Browns by failing to make that trade, but if they can still get Claiborne they win.

  6. finsfan4life1977 says: Mar 10, 2012 11:52 AM

    The Rams would be foolish to draft Reif or Poe that early IMO. I think they should try to trade down with a team that’s targeting a guy like Trent Richardson, or take Richardson themselves.

  7. cl8n82 says: Mar 10, 2012 11:53 AM

    trade the #6 and a 2nd to move up to #4 to get Blackmon…

  8. thesportsguy13 says: Mar 10, 2012 11:53 AM

    Blackmon is a manbearpig…anywhere he goes he will make immediate impact. Although I agree with the Vikings taking kalil, Blackmon would be great for that team. Gives ponder another option and also would move Harvin to his more comfortable and productive slot position.

  9. charmcityalum says: Mar 10, 2012 12:00 PM

    I completely disagree with the theory that the Browns had to get RG3. It’s not like the Browns are a QB away from being contenders. Who would he have thrown the ball to? The last thing the Browns needed to do was mortgage their future because everyone is enamored with Griffin.

    With Snyders track record with the draft and free agency no team should ever be trying to model their front office and the decisions they make after the Redskins.

  10. trigzter says: Mar 10, 2012 12:00 PM

    no one is drafting tannehill at #4. be real

  11. ttommytom says: Mar 10, 2012 12:01 PM

    Hakeem Nicks is better than Michael Crabtree. Same draft and everyone and their mother would have drafted Crabtree over Nicks.

    Point being, you never know with WR’s and be careful with what you wish for.

    Rams need to take the best available for many a round.

  12. emmac13 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:03 PM

    Trade up with Browns for the 33d and 39th. Browns can then draft Reif and a WR at 22nd. Then they will still have three 2nd round picks.

  13. tfbuckfutter says: Mar 10, 2012 12:04 PM

    Are you kidding?

    In his entire tenure as head coach of the Oilers/Titans I think Fisher only drafted a WR once in the first round.

    He took over in 1994, and in all that time the team had ONE standout WR in Derrick Mason, and they let him walk.

    Why on earth would Jeff Fisher draft a WR when he apparently doesn’t think they are important to the game?

  14. ilcattivo118 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:06 PM

    I know StLouis was coveting Blackmon since he announced he was entering the 2102 Draft and personally I don’t think we’ll get him now at #6 overall. However as a fan you’ve got to keep in mind that one player with Blackmon’s calibre isn’t going to win you Super Bowls, multiple players with Blackmon’s calibre will though, and thus with the multitude of 1st & 2nd Rd picks we’ve got over the next 3 years it’s a win-win for the Rams, with or without Justin. Even more so if the Redskins end up being an epic fail the next two seasons…. :-D

  15. cliffordc05 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:08 PM

    The Rams have too many needs to worry about losing either Blackmon or Claiborn. I expect them to select Reiff and select a receiver in the second round.

  16. skito13 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:10 PM

    Ram’s will move down for more goodies… Several very good free agent recievers ..bring on free agency and the draft! Browns just missed the boat.

  17. howmanyringsyourteamgot says: Mar 10, 2012 12:10 PM

    6 is too high for Floyd and there is no way Hill is available in the 2nd round

  18. charmcityalum says: Mar 10, 2012 12:13 PM

    @cl8n82

    The Redskins had to give up three first round picks and a second to move up four slots. Plus the Rams opted to take the Redskins deal over the Browns offer. Do you really think that in order for the Rams to move up two slots to the Browns pick that all the Browns would want is the #6 pick and a second rounder?

  19. kchi55 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:14 PM

    It’s okay they’ll have at least a top five pick the next two years courtesy of the redskins

  20. forthelove says: Mar 10, 2012 12:18 PM

    Driving up the trading price that’s all…

  21. edavidberg says: Mar 10, 2012 12:19 PM

    Browns would do well to at least act interested in blackmon so rams will trade up two spots leaving browns tannenhill at 6 which is who they need anyway.

    I can see rams trading down again from 6 if blackmon isnt there to a team wanting tannehill.

    Browns could take the okie state qb in the second round to pair with blackmon which makes a lot of sense too.

  22. JackLeone says: Mar 10, 2012 12:25 PM

    The Rams are doing what a lot of teams do: express praise for one player to throw other teams off the scent of the player they really want. No way would they trade down by mistake. I think they have a strategy & we’ll see in time, if it works out for them

  23. aaroncurryisbust says: Mar 10, 2012 12:27 PM

    They’re the Rams, dude. Every 1st round pick of theirs is a guaranteed bust anyway. Including Sam “Badd for Rams” BUSTford.

  24. contract says: Mar 10, 2012 12:31 PM

    I don’t get the Blackmon hype. People seem to be evaluating his college stats instead of the film. Lots of guys put up huge numbers in college when they are the focus of their offense.

  25. andyreidisfat says: Mar 10, 2012 12:33 PM

    I have to agree with someone else, Crabtree was the same guy as Blackmon in his draft but he ended up being the 3 best wr behind nicks and maclin both of whom were taken much later.

  26. dolfanatik says: Mar 10, 2012 12:34 PM

    The true point is Vikings @ 3 became a valuable pick. Technically it’s where the draft really starts. Spielman should trade down if Khalil is his guy at LT. & only draft him if he has Jake Long potential. Blackmon will go 3rd to highest bidder with rams having to give skins 12′ second rounder. ThTs why they had no problem raping them for three first rounders, they will need them for ammo

  27. macarwolf says: Mar 10, 2012 12:36 PM

    Really get Vincent Jackson and that Hill kid a throw the ball deep. they should trade down several more times for future picks and start thinking about building through draft after this year

  28. zn0rseman says: Mar 10, 2012 12:37 PM

    They want Micheal Floyd…

  29. destroyedbydansnyder says: Mar 10, 2012 12:40 PM

    I’m tired of people saying the skins gave up 3 first rounders. They swapped first rounders this year, that means they still have one. The gave up 2 first rounders starting next year!

  30. jimnsota says: Mar 10, 2012 12:45 PM

    Vikings should play the game and covent Blackmon. They need help all over the field. Let the Rams move to 3. the Vikes still will get a good player even if it’s not Kalil and pick up more picks.

  31. oldbrowndawg says: Mar 10, 2012 12:49 PM

    You’re all missing the point. LT Kalil is the guy the Rams would have drafted in the #2 slot if not for the ridiculous free shopping spree the Skins treated them to. That’s why this will REALLY get interesting if the Vikes take Claiborne @ #3. Then the Browns could offer up the #4 to St. Louis in exchange for the #6 and BOTH the Rams’ second round picks (their #34 AND the #38 they got from the Skins). Bottom line is that they’re going with Bradford and they MUST close the swinging gate at LT that almost got him killed last year. He can’t throw to Blackmon or anybody else when he’s constantly staring up at the clouds wafting over the stadium after getting knocked on his ass time and time again. Frankly, I hope the Browns hold the Rams up for ransom with the #4. It would be poetic justice — robbing a thief.

  32. packerfan12 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:50 PM

    They traded down too far? Wow….I can’t believe he just said that….They are going to get a good LT, WR, or CB out of this, and 2 first round picks….and a second round pick…..to move down 4 spots…..They made the might move as far as I am concerned, now it’s their job to go and get the talent for their franchise quarterback.

  33. switch123 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:54 PM

    Oh, well, you made the trade.

  34. stl45fan says: Mar 10, 2012 12:56 PM

    For the Rams to get Blackmon now, Richardson has to push himself up to #4 or #5 to Cleveland or TB who both need him to replace Hillis or Blount. Then the Rams will look like genius’s.

  35. stunzeed5 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:59 PM

    Retards: the Redskins succumbed 2 first round picks….one in 13′ one in 14′. The third first round pick they gave “up” was a swap with the Rams in the first round this year. Then toss in the second rounder; they essentially gave up two firsts and a second and swapped spots with the Rams in the first round this year. Damn, the intellectual decline of America’s sports fans is disappointing! Hail to RGIII! Hail to the Redskins!

    BTW, the whole “Redskins gave up too much” crowd = “damn, I wish WE were getting RGIII!”

  36. jaltreality says: Mar 10, 2012 1:05 PM

    @cl8n82:

    I agree. They now have plenty of fodder to trade up a spot or two to make sure they get whichever player they want.

  37. ramitbaby says: Mar 10, 2012 1:08 PM

    The Rams don’t need Kalil. They needed to get rid of their OLine coach who, mysteriously, turned high-priced free agents and #2 picks into dog excrement.

  38. charmcityalum says: Mar 10, 2012 1:18 PM

    Hey genius Skins fans….the Redskins aquired the 2nd pick in the draft. In order to get that pick they gave up the number 6 pick in this draft and their first round picks in the next 2 drafts. That’s 3 count them 3 first round picks to get the number 2 pick in this draft.

    Those of you trying to down play how much they gave up I understand. If my team drafted like the Redskins I wouldn’t be concerned with giving up first rounders either.

  39. ernie ernie says: Mar 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    First this guy ain’t Calvin Johnson. Second there are a handful of receivers just as quick and just as good so they are in good shape. Pick On!

  40. boothlustig says: Mar 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    The Rams now have #6, 34, 39…3/4/6/7 and 2 #2s in 2013 and 2014 that they can make into more picks like NE has.

    If they want Blackmon, trade 6 and 39 to Clev for #4…so Clev can take Tannehill before Mia does.

    or take RB Richardson at #6 who some consider to be the best player as Ste Jackson does not have a lot of tread left.

    this was a great deal for both teams.

  41. gdive says: Mar 10, 2012 1:58 PM

    Draft value chart says the difference between 4 & 6 in the 1st rd is 200 pts which is worth pick #76 in the 3rd rd. Rams have pick #66. I’m sure the Browns would be willing to make that deal.

  42. emperorzero says: Mar 10, 2012 2:05 PM

    Matt Flynn will sign with the Browns and the point will be moot as the Browns select Blackmon.

  43. biglebronski says: Mar 10, 2012 2:12 PM

    @gdive

    Just like the Rams got far more for #2 than what the draft value chart calls for, the Browns aren’t just going to hand Blackmon to you for a 3rd round pick. You must be out of your freaking mind.

  44. jessethegreat says: Mar 10, 2012 2:54 PM

    destroyedbydansnyder says:
    I’m tired of people saying the skins gave up 3 first rounders. They swapped first rounders this year, that means they still have one. The gave up 2 first rounders starting next year!
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    fine, everyone gives in….. We will agree with you that the Redskins gave the Rams 3 first round picks and a 2nd round pick for the right to select RGIII. Sound any better for you?

    4 top 40 picks for one player? I bet the Colts would have traded out of the 1 for that!

  45. gmen4life33 says: Mar 10, 2012 2:55 PM

    Im confused. Reports are that CLE was willing to give up 3 1st and 2nd also, but they had the better 1st this year (4th). I understand CLE’s offer came after STL and WAS had a deal done, but why did STL jump the gun so fast? Peyton wasnt going to sign with either team, and FA hasnt begun so no other FA QB was a threat to STL. Why not wait till sunday, 11 PM, and have them keep duking it out?

  46. gdive says: Mar 10, 2012 3:36 PM

    @gdive

    Just like the Rams got far more for #2 than what the draft value chart calls for, the Browns aren’t just going to hand Blackmon to you for a 3rd round pick. You must be out of your freaking mind.
    ==================================
    Uh no you must be crazy if you’re comparing the value of a frachise QB to a WR. The value chart doesn’t apply for “franchise QB’s”…see Eli Manning. But it will to #4. No one is going to mortgage their draft for Blackmon. If the Browns do trade down watch what they get. It’ll be very close to the value chart.

  47. trollhammer20 says: Mar 10, 2012 3:51 PM

    Regarding the Crabtree comparisons, I seem to recall there being quite a few red flags around Crabtree before the draft. He was said to be a top-five talent but went around 11 or 12, supposedly because of attitude problems and a foot injury. Given he’s been in the league for three seasons, and has missed three training camps, I’d think that those who were not valuing him so highly were correct. He’s averaging about 60 catches a year, which isn’t exactly what you expect from a high #1 pick.

    I have not heard anything about the same types of problems with Blackmon.

    The next domino to fall will be Matt Flynn. I have a feeling he’ll wind up in Cleveland, Miami, or Seattle. What happens with Flynn may well determine what Cleveland does with the 4. If they don’t get Flynn and decide that they want Tannehill, a trade down with the Rams, who suddenly have a wealth of picks available, could be possible. Get Tannehill at 6 and pick up a second-rounder to go with him, while the Rams get Blackmon.

  48. rolli1967 says: Mar 10, 2012 5:13 PM

    The way the Rams outbid the Browns for RGIII, the pissed off Browns will require at least two 2nd rounders from the Rams to move up to #4 and pick Blackmon. If the Rams don’t want to do that, then the WR starved Browns simply draft Blackmon at #4, and get an OT at #22, and get Weedon in the 2nd round. Either way is a win-win for my Browns.

  49. applecool1981 says: Mar 11, 2012 3:02 AM

    stunzeed5 says: Mar 10, 2012 12:59 PM

    “Retards: the Redskins succumbed 2 first round picks….one in 13′ one in 14′. The third first round pick they gave “up” was a swap with the Rams in the first round this year. Then toss in the second rounder; they essentially gave up two firsts and a second and swapped spots with the Rams in the first round this year. Damn, the intellectual decline of America’s sports fans is disappointing! Hail to RGIII! Hail to the Redskins!

    BTW, the whole “Redskins gave up too much” crowd = “damn, I wish WE were getting RGIII!”

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    The Redskins will help RG III become the next David Carr. Just as the Texans chose not to get him much help and ruined him and his development, the Redskins will do the same to RG III, not by choice but not having the selections in the draft and well because what have they done right in the last twenty years? It will continue because Snyder is an idiot.

  50. applecool1981 says: Mar 11, 2012 3:07 AM

    trollhammer20 says: Mar 10, 2012 3:51 PM

    “Regarding the Crabtree comparisons, I seem to recall there being quite a few red flags around Crabtree before the draft. He was said to be a top-five talent but went around 11 or 12, supposedly because of attitude problems and a foot injury. Given he’s been in the league for three seasons, and has missed three training camps, I’d think that those who were not valuing him so highly were correct. He’s averaging about 60 catches a year, which isn’t exactly what you expect from a high #1 pick.

    I have not heard anything about the same types of problems with Blackmon.

    The next domino to fall will be Matt Flynn. I have a feeling he’ll wind up in Cleveland, Miami, or Seattle. What happens with Flynn may well determine what Cleveland does with the 4. If they don’t get Flynn and decide that they want Tannehill, a trade down with the Rams, who suddenly have a wealth of picks available, could be possible. Get Tannehill at 6 and pick up a second-rounder to go with him, while the Rams get Blackmon.”

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    While Jake Locker went at eight and Ponder at twelve, I don’t see any team that lost out at getting a top QB drafting someone like Tannehill that high. If Tannehill is available at one of the middle picks and the Browns don’t think that he’ll make it to them at 22, they might try trading up to get their man, if it’s him.

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