Comments on: Redskins, Rams announce trade for No. 2 pick

By: applecool1981

applecool1981 — Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:37:55 +0000

Can the league tell them that this is way too much for the Redskins to give up to move up four spots and deny the trade?

By: brownsgirl84

brownsgirl84 — Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:52:43 +0000

as browns fan i was pulling for rg3 but im glad the browns didnt pull it off. there are too many holes to fill to have one man be the answer

By: bleedgreen

bleedgreen — Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:06:17 +0000

It doesn’t matter to the Shanahans. If he isn’t good, and the Redskins don’t at LEAST go 8-8 this year, they’re more than likely be fired. Basically if he is good and they start winning, they look like geniuses. If he’s bad and the Skins are bad, they’ll be gone before this REALLY catches up with them in 3-5 years anyways.

By: ham1

ham1 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:59:05 +0000

In regards to first round picks, two were traded away, and a swap in this years first round.

That does not equal three first round picks given up.

Or, maybe overstating the facts makes your post more dramatic. Oooh they gave up three first rounders, oooh they gave up four first rounders, oooh……..Sounds like chicken little “the sky is falling” “the sky is falling”

By: truthserum4u

truthserum4u — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:17:56 +0000

@ zampft says:Mar 10, 2012 1:26 PM

The Rams owe a thank you bouquet to Cam Newton.

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First they should send flowers to Minnesota. If the Vikings don’t get that meaningless late season victory (over Washington no less) the Rams aren’t even in this situation. I would trade the win (not by tanking) over the Redskins for their additional picks.

Geez, two years in a row. 2009 late season win over Philadelphia dropped them from 6th (the spot Cleveland traded to Atlanta for a boatload of picks) to 12th.

The Vikings lose for winning. Sheesh!

By: outlawjerseywhales

outlawjerseywhales — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:52:43 +0000

It had occured to me that the Redskins were hoping that Payton Manning would elect to sign with the Texans, and then, as odd man out, Matt Schaub would be a relatively easy pickup for them. Reuniting with an offensive coordinater with which he has had much success.
Obviously, the Shanahan’s and Allen weren’t ‘betting on the come’ and made this move. Interesting. Daring.
Tannehill is too raw to spend a 6 on, at first blush. Inexperience and a bit of lack of experience (foot injury, as well), a this point.
He could turn out to be Johnny Unitus the 2nd, but…
All that said, the die is cast.
One thing is true, the Redskins are now a destination for potential free agents on both sides of the ball that would like to play with this young man. There is a great deal of money, thanks to the machinations of Bruce Allen, to spend on select free agents. They have money to spend against the cap to shape the team. This was not done in anticipation of coaching/ managerial staff being fired mid-season, or beyond.
DC is a military town, obviousy, and Robert Griffin III will be loved immediately, with his parents background. By all accounts, he is a high-motor achiever. The young man studied Poly-Sci at Baylor! He has the physical tools. Let’s see how he stands up to the rush in the NFC East. Time will tell. Give it that time.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy is the real deal, and, even as a rookie, will pay immediate dividends. Especially with what upgrades in the draft and free agency the team will make to help him.

By: laserw

laserw — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:26:24 +0000

The NFC East teams have nothing to fear with Griffin.

First, each team is now used to playing against a running back who thinks he can throw the football. The Dog Killer, er, Mike Vick, has demonstrated that the way to beat these type of overrated players is to blitz him and to keep his lazy butt in the pocket. There is absolutely NOTHING to fear with Mike Vick and the Redskins will find that having an equally stupid, lazy, weak preparation “quarterback” will meet with equal results – sometimes luck results in a touchdown – more often than not the quarterback is injured and worthless. And more often than that, there is an interception for the other team.

Second, Griffin may not even be as good as the Dog Killer. That is saying something. Considering that the Redskins have paid more for this Yutz than Atlanta gave up for the running back who thinks he can throw, Washington is on shakey ground.

Third, Washington does not have an offensive line that can block a good pass rush. You will see a lot of Griffin fleeing for his life and only in the short term will his legs be an asset. The older he gets the more mediocre he’ll be. And considering he won’t stay in the pocket to allow plays to develop, the Redskins could have a team filled with great wide receivers and it wouldn’t make a lick of difference. What will have to happen is that Washington spends the rest of its money buying a ready-made offensive line. If that doesn’t happen, Griffin is nothing more than a huge waste of draft picks.

Fourth, Washington has good running backs. It didn’t need to pay three first rounders for another one who thinks he can throw.

I’m a Washington fan, but the more you look at this huge “mistake” the more I am ashamed of being a Washington Redskin. This is putting every egg in one basket who will NEVER live up to expectations. Griffin is not as elusive as Cam Cheating from the Panthers – may not rise above mediocrity to even Mike Vick’s level, and could possibly be more stupid than the turf at Washington. He is a flash in the pan and the Redskins will never live this down. We have a twig with legs who will be the next Haynesworth. There is nothing in this jerk’s past that shows he’s a team player. Nothing.

By: skinsfan5

skinsfan5 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:06:59 +0000

This could be a two decade mistake. How can you give up three 1st rounders and a second when you have glaring holes at other positions.

By: blackqbwhiterb

blackqbwhiterb — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:36:47 +0000

Or, just for the hell of it, they could trade the 2nd pick to Cleveland for a boat load of picks, move down 2 spots, and surprise us all….

By: nfceastisbeast

nfceastisbeast — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:35:50 +0000

Skins paid the price they had to, to get RG3. They haven’t had a good QB in about 25 years so thev’ve finally done what needed to be done. As an Eagles fan, I’m excited to see the Skins being relevent again. I look forward to battling and watching this cat 2 times a year. You may say they gave up too much but I look at what the Eagles have drafted the last 3 years and I would trade EVERYONE one of their picks for RG3. Way to be aggressive Skins, look forward to our matchups in the upcoming years!

By: imopen7

imopen7 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:53:37 +0000

If the skins want RGIII so bad….the Colts should F@#% with them. They have some leverage, might be interesting.

By: stavreafavre

stavreafavre — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:49:03 +0000

Is this a bad time to point out that some scouts don’t think Griffin will be ready to run a pro offense until at least his third year?

By: trojan33sc

trojan33sc — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:47:53 +0000

This is an AWESOME move for the Skins and badly needed to upgrade Shanahan’s offense. RGIII can do Anything: throw, run, audible ! At least the Haters are consistent, this time last year it was how bad Cam Newton would be. Haven’t heard a peep out of any of them since. Shannie needs a guy bringing in a full arsenal of skills and RGIII will do the trick.

By: mesodoso

mesodoso — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:22:36 +0000

I broke my jaw when it hit the floor when, I saw how much the Skins gave-up to get this pick… This is a dumb move.. Good luck in retirement Shanahan because Your Fired!

By: thewizardofbs

thewizardofbs — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20:08:24 +0000

What about the rumor that RGIII may not want to play for Washington (Snyder) and may refuse to sign with them? They could draft him and be forced to trade him to someone else…

By: pacodawg

pacodawg — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:58:55 +0000

SOMETIMES the best trade is no trade. The Browns did not get sucked in. GREAT MOVE! I will take Richardson at 4, Floyd at 22 and Weedon at 37 all day over RGIII. 6 years of Good play for Weedon is great for a second round pick!

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:58:04 +0000

How good will this trade look for the Redskins if another team makes a trade with the Colts? They would still get RG3 but it is possible they could have had Luck. I didn’t think it would be possible, but after watching the Colts get rid of everybody it would actually make sense from their perspective. Their roster is bad enough for the 1st pick next year no matter who they get this year (dead money prevents top free agents). The Colts sacrifice 2012 for a full rebuild (that they are already doing) and could make a similar trade with the Dolphins (still top 10 pick this year) or even the Browns get next year’s #1 as well as the #1 overall and add in a bunch of affordable picks from both drafts to build a competitive roster in 2013 or 2014. That would put the Colts on track at least 2 years earlier than standing pat. The Dolphins have a few holes to fill but they could easily sacrifice that for Luck.

By: nitzenbaum - not yer momma's 'skins fan

nitzenbaum - not yer momma's 'skins fan — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:54:08 +0000

Wait, they didn’t give up 3 first round picks. They swapped this years firsts, their 2nd rounder, and first rounders for the next 2 years. Seems fine to me and worth the gamble. The ‘skins drafted well last year and will maximize their picks over the next 3. Plenty of starters are found after the first round of the draft and they have lots of picks, regardless of how this pick turns out. Obviously, the team has watched Robert play plenty to make this decision. To say it’s too much to give up for their starting QB is just ridiculous to me. I’m sure they’ll do well in the 2012 draft and now have the one main component that lost them 4-5 games last year.

By: ytownie

ytownie — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:52:11 +0000

my question is what are the Rams’ plan for when Sam Bradford gets his annual 10 games off for injury? All those draft choices won’t help them at QB

By: rdsknguru

rdsknguru — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:52:10 +0000

What happens if Indy decides to take RG III? Hum…..They’re already cleaning house. Clark and Addai are gone. R. Wayne and Garcon are probably gone. Who is Luck going to throw to? They’re gonna need a scrambling QB to throw to a bunch of nobodies. Anyone heard of RG III? I’m just saying…

By: beantownbeastoftheeast

beantownbeastoftheeast — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:48:47 +0000

3 first round picks and a 2nd for a QB who doesn’t have weapons nor a top 10 defense? If it doesn’t work out for a 3 -4 years, he’s going to be out or want out and the Redskins are going to be the laughing stock of the NFC. The Jets will represent the AFC. And kudos to the Rams, they got a hell of a deal.

By: godzilla111111

godzilla111111 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:07:41 +0000

Mar 10, 2012 1:10 PM

Man, the NFC East is again the Beast of the NFL.

The G-men get the SB and now the 4 QB’s in the division are Eli, RGIII, Romo, and Vick.

Remember how sorry the NFC East looked for most of last season? Big turnaround.
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That would be the AFC North-3 play-off teams.

By: babyhorsemorgan

babyhorsemorgan — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:00:18 +0000

Redskins got 1700 draft value chart points for passing on Blaine Gabbert last year. They gave up over 4,000 draft value chart points (optimistically estimating they finish in the middle of the pack in 2013 and 2014) to get Griffin this year. Gabbert and Griffin are the same age and a year ago the NFL draft board gave Gabbert a first round rating and Griffin a mid round rating. Same position, played in the same conference in college. Similar stats in the two years each started when they were both there. Gabbert with more wins, yards, touchdowns, over the same period of time. Loopy.

By: micbg77

micbg77 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:41:02 +0000

if Bradford ends up being good(meaning the Rams didn’t blue they chance at RG3) then the Rams just made the biggest deal of the decade.

By: datd00d

datd00d — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:38:48 +0000

Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. RG3 doesn’t have the arm that Vick did/does, isn’t as pure a passer, and is slower in both quickness and straight line speed. He’s probably just as athletic and has way better intangibles, but overall he’s a worse prospect; mostly from the passing. 3 first round picks (to me) seems like they expect him to be better than a Vick. Bold.

With the whole “unknown” factor (how sure-thing college prospects often bust in the pros), seems like the risk-reward doesn’t stack up. I’d consider mortgaging my franchise’s future on a more pro-style prospect like Luck or Cam, but not a guy like RG3.

By: Christian

Christian — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:35:00 +0000

Overpay for free agents, overpay for draft picks. RG3 might wind up being worth it–key word: might. Maybe he’s Akili Smith or Ryan Leaf. They were highly touted prospects, too. Three first rounders, including the sixth pick this year and next year’s second-rounder. Wow. Jesus wept.

By: redskin1

redskin1 — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:27:21 +0000

to fantasy football legend your about as clueless about football as that fly on the wall

By: bigfing

bigfing — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:27:19 +0000

I love how everyone bashes the skins and their talent level… Their talent was good enough to beat the Giants twice

By: ravenator

ravenator — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:26:55 +0000

Rams straight pillaged the Redskins.

By: bw82b

bw82b — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:26:08 +0000

Yikes, Redskins just screwed themselves BAD, Giving up more than the Giants gave up for Eli for RG3? Big Mistake.