A.J. Smith chimes in on the Peyton chase

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Eight years ago, the Manning family made a power play aimed directly at the man who holds all of it in San Diego.  The Chargers had the first pick in the 2004 draft, G.M. A.J. Smith wanted to take Eli Manning, and Manning family patriarch Archie made it clear that Eli wanted no part of the franchise.

Faced with the prospect of playing Eli’s older brother twice this year, with Peyton possibly joining either the Broncos or the Chiefs, Smith doesn’t seem concerned.

At all.

I don’t know, and I really don’t care,” Smith told Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego.  “I concentrate on the Chargers.”

And then it appeared that Smith tried to make it better, until he decided to take a more subtle slap.

“I do wish him the best in whatever the Manning family decides,” Smith said.  “I don’t know why you would ask me.  And I don’t know why anyone is asking Peyton.  If you really want to know what’s going on — what trips he’s making and where he’s going to play — call Archie.”

Ouch.

It makes no sense for Smith to gratuitously antagonize Peyton.  As Acee points out, the Chargers are 5-1 in their last six games against Peyton, generating 15 interceptions and allowing only 11 touchdowns.

Whenever Peyton plays the Chargers again, don’t be shocked if that record falls to 5-2.

131 responses to “A.J. Smith chimes in on the Peyton chase

  1. He’s not wrong tho….

    That record might go 5-2 but even the most basic review of the Manning situation – you KNOW Archie is either pulling the strings directly or Peyton’s asking his advice and just following it blindly.

    Archie’s no different than any other little league dad, tennis dad or football dad – just that his son’s are the age where it’s supposed to be them acting that way….

  2. lolol. the mannings are the chargers bitches.both peyton and sheli have a combined record of 1-7 against sd over the past 5 years.

    id rather have the warrior Philip Rivers over sheli any day

  3. “I don’t know, and I really don’t care,” Smith told Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego. “I concentrate on the Chargers

    Of course you do,thats why Norv is still the head coach….. clown…..

  4. At least AJ’s not a politician or a corporate lackey that spits out words someone else wrote for him.

  5. AJ just keep up the great work in SD. Make sure great elite players refuse to play for you, and make sure to extend contracts of people like Norv Turner. San Diego has never won a thing, never will, and thats not by accident.

  6. If I’m reading the chatter correctly, our boy AJ is commonly referred to as “The Lord of No Rings” apparently he’s quite pleased with mediocrity and general suckdom. If course he’s not going to pay any mind to this – he’s been burned by a Manning before. Couldn’t happen to a “nicer” guy……

  7. I think Archie nailed it on the head with the San Diego organization. They fire Schottenheimer after going 14-2 and Norm Parker has underachieved greatly and continues to keep his job.

  8. the way Smith talks, it’s like he’s too busy winning playoff games and championships to be bothered with such questions.

  9. zero rings…zero Super Bowl appearances..Franchise fading toward irrelevancy…Why is anyone sticking a microphone in this guys pie hole?

  10. “It makes no sense for Smith to gratuitously antagonize Peyton.”
    “Whenever Peyton plays the Chargers again, don’t be shocked if that record falls to 5-2.”

    Yeah, because when one usually talks smack in March, they pay for it the following season. #sarcasm.

  11. Shut up AJ. You are a complete assclown. It’s no wonder Eli didn’t want play for your sorry ass organization. You have a top 5 QB and his best receiver this year is going to be a TE about to collect his social security checks. Why to give your team a chance. Jack wagon.

  12. Cant this dude just quit running his mouth for once? Just Do your F***ing job put a competitive product on the field instead of signing retreads from across the leauge on the cheap………

  13. Oh baloney. Peyton’s not going to beat the Chargers ever again. If he plays at all this season (problematic with nerve regeneration stalled and limited arm strength), he’ll be a game manager QB at best and a sorry shell of his former self at worst.

    As for Archie, everyone seems to forget how that sorry loser “led” the Saints for ten miserable years to nine losing seasons and one .500 season. Old Arch is much better at managing the Manning Family Businesses than he ever was as an NFL quarterback.

  14. trubroncfan07 said:
    Mar 11, 2012 1:48 PM
    “A J says I would not spend any kind of money for a good player, we do things on the cheep in SD.”

    ==

    Yeah, that is why the Chargers spent more on their team last season then the Patriots did. Look at the end of season available cap room numbers. *eye roll*

  15. Not a fan of Smith, but OUCH. As a Giants fan, Archie does need to calm it down a bit. Im tired of Archie quotes, “This broadcaster isnt fair to Eli” or “Eli did this right”. They are big boys now Achie

  16. I’ve always guessed the reason against Eli playing in San Diego was merely that the Chargers are in the AFC.

    Daddy didn’t want one brother knocking the other out of the playoffs when he could have both boys in the Super Bowl

  17. A.J. Smith knows what’s going on. Peyton stole $24+ million from Irsay and his teammates last year and Archie is making him steal more.

    Peyton knew he was done last year. He’s worth over $100 million but Archie smells blood in the water. “Son, don’t be like me. You have a chance to add more money to your estate. Your family needs it. There are fools out there who will pay you for doing nothing. You have to sign another contract. Just don’t throw if they ask you to.”

    He’ll go to wherever he’s offered the most money. Disgusting. Caveat Emptor.

  18. Oh, so by your logic if you bad mouth Peyton Manning or his family, you’re basically guaranteeing your team a loss. If it were only that simple. Who knows if the guy even has an NFL arm anymore, or a Pee Wee neck for that matter.

  19. AJ has a point, a point that I believe is valid. It is amazing how many people are now in Eli’s camp when he and his daddy bucked the system and refused to play for the team that drafted him.

    When it happens to your favorite team, and I believe it will, I don’t want to read any whiny posts when a player refuses to go to your favorite teams.

  20. Huh? This is ridiculous. It is absurd how so many media members expect everyone to bow down and kiss the feet of the Manning family. The Mannings took the Chargers for a ride, and the Chargers have every right to be furious.

    Second, why should this guy fear Manning? Manning couldn’t beat the Chargers when he was healthy and in his prime. Now that Manning is 36 and coming off a severe nerve injury, what exactly is he supposed to do? Manning was so effective all those years in Indy thanks in large part to being surrounded by Pro Bowlers like Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai etc. Let the guy go to Denver and throw to Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker, hand off to Willis McGahee and Knowshon Moreno and see how that works out. The same deal if he goes to KC: they’re a little better at skill positions (Bowe, Breaston, Jones, McCluster) but have one of the worst OLs in football.

    Smith can’t wait for his defense to call all-out blitzes on the most visible member of the family that probably cost him 2 Super Bowls. There won’t be a “bounty”, but you had better believe that there will be “incentives” in the contracts!

    P.S. For those who call A.J. Smith cheap, he is merely carrying out the directives of the Spanos family.

  21. No, that’s hilarious. Shockingly, Archie has been pretty quiet lately. Suppose his kids finally told him to SFU?

  22. If you really want to know what’s going on — what trips he’s making and where he’s going to play — call Archie.”
    ===================================
    Well Archie has done a lot better winning Super Bowls with the Manning talent than A.J. Smith has done with the San Diego Chargers.

  23. Any SD team will never win, they are too fair weather… I do have a lot of respect for The Manning’s for saying we’re not playing for a losing franchise!

  24. He has a point! And btw. That was really Archie in that helmet and iniform throwing those 5-10 yard wobblies on that 27 second video released on youtube. Cooper was the one filming it

  25. Who else would pay to see a steel cage death match between Smith and Bill Polian?
    Salty old mfs…lol.

  26. why is everyone so afraid of manning, read the dam story, chargers are 5-1 against manning. now all of a sudden he is going to change? let me see, he hasn’t played in over a year, has had three neck surgeries, and would be with a completely new team.. sounds scary to me.

  27. The more I hear from this jackass the smarter I think Archie is…

    Too bad a franchise with maybe the best weather in the country is owned and run by complete fools…

  28. He’s right , he shouldn’t have been asked, but he told the truth. That was a nice jab too. I didn’t realize the bolts dominance of the colts went that far back. “that bum ? Who cares?”

  29. Yes keep antagonizing… anything to encourage the Broncos to flush 10million+ in cap space down the toilet…. and ship that awkward Tebow QB/RB out of the division…. for a broken neck HOF QB who’s coming off not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 neck surgeries in the last 12 months…. and will need at least one more procedure…. Addition by subtraction… defined

  30. What a great representative of an organization. I guess that’s why the chargers suck, will always suck, and are without a championship. It starts at the top.

  31. Isn’t Mr. Smith the person who could not get along with Marty and sent him packing? Another insight into a man with a mind like a steel trap….. Full of mice!

  32. Good lord…the ego on this guy.

    To hear AJ Smith talk, you’d think he was a HOF-caliber football mind who had established a legacy of success at every juncture of his career for 20+ years…..a la Bill Polian.

    But no.

    AJ Smith was instrumental in turning a bad Chargers team into a very good team for a few years….but he’s been just as instrumental in making them not-so-good over the past couple years.

    News flash, AJ: the Manning brothers have led their teams to four Super Bowls, and have earned three Lombardi trophies. There’s a very good chance that both will eventually be enshrined in Canton….and AJ Smith will be faintly remembered as a loudmouth GM who allowed his ego to get the best of him.

  33. Sorry, AJ. Arcie was right steering his kid to New York. You got Shawn Merriman out of the trade. Seller’s remorse.

  34. Easy Bronco fans, your reaction to every work AJ utters is interesting. If he is such a bum of a GM just be glad he’s not yours and don’t get your choners in a bunch.

  35. “I do wish him the best in whatever the Manning family decides,” Smith said. “I don’t know why you would ask me. And I don’t know why anyone is asking Peyton. If you really want to know what’s going on —what trips he’s making and where he’s going to play — call Archie.”

    Anyway, You Mad!

  36. I definitely agree with his sentiment. Mannings screwed him out of Eli’s preference. It was not his fault Eli was sitting right there and they said No Thanks! Personally I dont think Peyton is going to win a championship with the Broncos or Cardinals. His best bet is the Chiefs. There defense is pretty darn good. But other than that this is just this year QB swap. 1 Ring out of all the years he had a chance to win. I still think he sits behind Tom Brady as the best last decade.

  37. How, as GM, do you not care what your division rivals do? There are 5th graders playing Madden that know “You lock up your division, you lock up a playoff berth”. You pay attention to your division, not the rest of the NFL.

    Guess this is why the Chargers haven’t been back to the Superbowl since ’94.

  38. I’m a Chargers fan, and I hated what Archie did to us in 2004. But Archie probably helped AJ’s career more than anyone. Eli gave him multiple high round picks that turned into pro bowlers, including a franchise QB. If we had Eli all these years instead we would not have a Super Bowl. Because our defense has never been good enough and AJ is the only fool in the league to believe in Norv Turner.

    You’re right, AJ. You should concentrate on the Chargers.

  39. But this bitter old dude is why Eli didn’t want to play there. He’s not exactly exuding class. And in the meantime Eli has hung up two Superbowl MVP scalps while San Diego has done nothing. It’s not hard to figure out who made the right decision.

  40. Hahaha. Smith isn’t what I would call a genius but he’s got the Manning family figured out. No matter how old Eli and Peyton get, they’re just Daddy’s Little Boys. The three are elitist, entitled, self indulgent QBs who think they’re more important than the game. Good burn AJ, good burn.

  41. I love that nobody thinks that the Chargers will turn the corner… I’ll love it even more when they prove the experts wrong lol. Nobody on the outside may believe it, but I think that the Chargers are in a great position with many options at hand. Sign Gaither & Hardwick is the key. From what I have read on this site (which I love:), I am not sure anyone should be worried about Peyton Manning quite yet… I wish him the best tho, & would love a Rivers & Manning matchup!

  42. Really? “Look what AJ said about my daddy!” is going to lead to a loss when Peyton plays with his new team against the Chargers? Somehow I think it might have more to do with the offensive line, his wide receivers, the quality of the pass rush, the running game etc etc etc. Manning plays in the NFL, not HS football.

  43. From a talent evaluation stand point AJ Smith is one of the best around but for whatever reason he gets into unnecessary pissing contests and dick measuring contests that always negatively impacts his team’s on field performance. I don’t see the chargers winning a super bowl with Smith as GM.

  44. I agree with AJ on this. Why ask him? The Chargers and he have nothing to do with Manning. Sometimes I believe the media reaches a little to far to the point where we get meaningless fluff like this. Whats next? Is a reporter going to ask his kindergarten teacher what he or she thinks? His dentist? His gardener? …. lol

  45. Eli 2 rings ………… Philip 0…… I guess the manning family and Arcosi got the trade right.

  46. Yeah, the Chargers got all those picks and pro bowlers … and they even won a bunch of regular season games …

    All Eli got was those two lousy Superbowl MVP trophies.

  47. I still can’t believe people are thinking its about the money with Manning. That’s probably only a small part of it. Manning is most likely more interested in winning in his last 2 or 3 seasons…. as a Bronco fan that’s the best I can hope for.

  48. A.J Smith says to Manning: We are 5-1 against you

    Peyton says to A.J: We’ll the Family is 3-1..But I’m talking Super Bowls, what is is your record again???

  49. …yes waiter, I’ll start off with the bitter pill, I’ll follow that with some sour grapes and finally a bit of crow for desert…

  50. he’s probably not a very good GM, but you gotta give it to the guy – that was one cool line..

  51. johndank says: Mar 11, 2012 1:51 PM

    lolol. the mannings are the chargers bitches.both peyton and sheli have a combined record of 1-7 against sd over the past 5 years.

    id rather have the warrior Philip Rivers over sheli any day

    Really you’d rather have Rivers instead of 2 rings?…good thing you have AJ. Also combined record against SD…. SO? you play to win Super Bowls!!!

  52. johndank says: Mar 11, 2012 1:51 PM

    id rather have the warrior Philip Rivers over sheli any day

    Cool. You keep the loudmouth punk with pretty stats and no rings, and we’ll keep the 2x Super Bowl MVP who doesn’t choke when the pressure is on.

    You probably love AJ Smith. You guys appear to share a brain.

  53. I’m not a Broncos fan, but I have to admit that it would be funny to see both Peyton and Vincent Jackson end up in Denver just to screw with AJ Smith. Sorry AJ, but the Manning family had a very good reason or not wanting to see Eli end up with his career in your hands.

  54. This guy cracks me up. I’m not sure he worries about the Chargers enough. If he had their best interests at heart he would quit and let me hire a new GM. Apparently Archie was right when he told Eli not to go there.

  55. A.J. Smith is still saddled with born loser Norv Turner:
    2007 playoffs: 2-1
    2008 playoffs: 1-1
    2009 playoffs: 0-1
    2010 season: Does not qualify.
    2011 season: Does not qualify. Losing record until they play meaningless game to end playoff-less season.

    The Lord of No Brains or Rings can suck on this:

    Manning family: 3 Super Bowl titles.
    A.J. Smith in Buffalo and SD: 0 Super Bowl titles.

  56. johndank says: Mar 11, 2012 1:51 PM

    lolol. the mannings are the chargers bitches.both peyton and sheli have a combined record of 1-7 against sd over the past 5 years.

    id rather have the warrior Philip Rivers over sheli any day
    —-
    How does that look in your trophy case?

    I hate the Chargers, and I love Smith for his contributions in keeping them down, but that was a nice blast.

  57. Only this idiot would fire a 14-2 coach. Smart move by the Mannings and Eli would NEVER have gotten two rings with the chargers.

  58. bh927 says: Mar 11, 2012 3:49 PM

    johndank says: Mar 11, 2012 1:51 PM

    lolol. the mannings are the chargers bitches.both peyton and sheli have a combined record of 1-7 against sd over the past 5 years.

    id rather have the warrior Philip Rivers over sheli any day

    Really you’d rather have Rivers instead of 2 rings?…good thing you have AJ. Also combined record against SD…. SO? you play to win Super Bowls!!!
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    Kind of reminds me how the media tried to talk up the Broncos when they faced the Pats by pointing out they were the one team Brady had a losing record against (kept saying this leading up to the rematch in the playoffs after the Pats smacked the Broncos around in the regular season). Well, that record didn’t stop the Pats from beating the Broncos in the regular season and the playoffs…and by a sizable margin in both cases. I don’t bring this up to mock the Broncos, but to point out a very simple concept…times change. The Broncos simply didn’t have the roster to keep up with the Pats last year. Similarly, the Chargers’ roster keeps getting depleted more and more each year, and the attempts to reload it have proven to be less than satisfactory.

    Where has the Chargers pass rush gone? The running game is inconsistent at best. The receiving corps, once an embarrassment of riches, is starting to look rather depleted. An aging, beat up Gates is signed to a long term contract, and Jackson looks to be walking out the door because of A.J.’s ego. Name one area of the Chargers’ roster that looks like it’s even approaching the elite level? Oh, and as for the warrior Phillip Rivers, he didn’t look so impressive last year, and he hasn’t been able to get the job done when it really mattered. I can think of two games last season just off the top of my head where the Chargers had the ball at the end of the game deep in their opponents territory, and Rivers simply couldn’t get the job done. The one game he failed to score from within the 10 yard line, and the other he fumbled the snap and turned the ball over when all the Chargers had to do was hold on to the ball and kick a field goal. You can call that warrior-like all you want. To me that’s shooting yourself in the foot.

  59. Wait a minute. Some team is gonna pay a guy MILLIONS who has had 4 neck surgeries and who hasn’t played in a year, but AJ Smith is the idiot? Explain that one to me.

  60. A few things:

    1) Smith was, of course, baited by the asker of the question.

    2) Whoever is responsible for Norv Turner should probably keep his mouth shut about other teams.

    3) At this point in their careers, Rivers is probably better than Peyton, 2011 Rivers off-year notwithstanding.

  61. Funny how all the Charger fans that loved the trade for Rivers now are bashing the Mannings.

    As for Archie when a reporter shoves a mic in his face and asks something he answers it so what if he is not PC he is protecting his kids no matter how old they get they are still his kids.

    What the Mannings did on draft day was simply business a good player who’s father spent his life playing for the aints saw his sons future and said no I did that go to NY they will pay you and they have a good owner.

    Now on to the Chargers Drew would never throw again (yeah hows that worked out ?)

    The trade for Eli probowl players zero players in a super bowl.

    Now lets recap forgetting payton Drew 1 SB win Eli 2 SB wins Rivers ZERO SB wins so yes the management in SD are doing a fantastic job. Keep up the good work your right there with the vikes and egals

  62. All you charger haters are funny.. It’s not our fault as fans that we live in the best damn city in the US. Summer weather all year compared to a 1 super bowl ring or two?? I’ll take my weather all day son! Not saying I’m not a die hard charger fan cuz trust me I am. It’s just funny how everybody can just talk crap about a city that their local channels play vacation commercials about. Come to SD and see what’s up! We always have and always will have our Chargers back no matter what!!

  63. go619chargers says:
    Mar 12, 2012 1:28 AM
    All you charger haters are funny.. It’s not our fault as fans that we live in the best damn city in the US. Summer weather all year compared to a 1 super bowl ring or two?? I’ll take my weather all day son! Not saying I’m not a die hard charger fan cuz trust me I am. It’s just funny how everybody can just talk crap about a city that their local channels play vacation commercials about. Come to SD and see what’s up! We always have and always will have our Chargers back no matter what!!

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    This is a football blog not the vaction blog
    Of course our local channels have commercials about going to SD and why wouldn’t they SD pays them to run them. Of course those commericals cost top dollar to be aired in the number one market in the USA.
    Funny if you city is so so nice why do you have to pay big bucks to beg people to visit?

    If fair weather were what it took to win the Super Bowl then I would guess there would be team in Hawaii and they would be the champions each year.

    You can all make fun of Eli Manning call him and his family names but those of us in the NY area just call him Champ X 2

  64. It makes no sense for Smith to gratuitously antagonize Peyton. As Acee points out, the Chargers are 5-1 in their last six games against Peyton, generating 15 interceptions and allowing only 11 touchdowns.
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    I’ll give you two reasons why:

    #1 – AJ is a prick

    #2 – So was Eli, when he threw his predraft hissy fit about the Chargers.

  65. The NFL draft is inherently illegal – ALL drafts are inherently illegal. They are held, of course, in order to help the poor teams get better – They are legalized by the Congress.

    But they are illegal – If you were a college graduate who held a degree in some ridiculously hard discipline would you not want to be able to decide who you were going to go to work for? Of course you would. Prospective professional athletes don’t have that right. 99.99% of the time the potential draftee is helpless – he has no say in where he is going to go to work.

    Once upon a time John Elway got away with coercing the team he didn’t want to play for to trade the right to draft him (#1 overall) somewhere else, and 8 years ago Eli Manning, with his dad’s help, did the same thing. There is NOTHING WRONG with doing that.

  66. I dislike AJ more than most, but in this case he’s right. The 2 Manning boys will forever be remembered for floating around Archie’s apron strings and having this dad that has to control their lives even now. Why have an agent when you have daddy? An embarrassing “legacy.”

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