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	<title>Comments on: Rams expect to learn Gregg Williams&#8217; fate this week</title>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[broncobrewer says: Mar 11, 2012 7:46 PM

It should be the same as when pats got cheating, they got a slap on the wrist so should Williams.
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This is a funny post.

No a WRIST SLAP is what YOUR TEAM got from Tags for circumventing the salary cap for 2 years. You know, the two years your team got trophies.

Williams should get a year at most. If anyone is interested in hiring him after that, they should be welcome to do it. Remember, THEY LET CONVICTED FELON VICK back in...and he was convicted of GAMBLING RELATED CHARGES. If they ban Williams, Payton etc longer than that, despite their &quot;FO has a higher standard&quot; mantra, I think they are playing with fire. 

I&#039;ve always disliked Williams, but I&#039;m surprised at the Payton/Ornstein connection with this. I know SP is a bit of a maverick but I am surprised he would allow this  to get pushed so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>broncobrewer says: Mar 11, 2012 7:46 PM</p>
<p>It should be the same as when pats got cheating, they got a slap on the wrist so should Williams.<br />
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This is a funny post.</p>
<p>No a WRIST SLAP is what YOUR TEAM got from Tags for circumventing the salary cap for 2 years. You know, the two years your team got trophies.</p>
<p>Williams should get a year at most. If anyone is interested in hiring him after that, they should be welcome to do it. Remember, THEY LET CONVICTED FELON VICK back in&#8230;and he was convicted of GAMBLING RELATED CHARGES. If they ban Williams, Payton etc longer than that, despite their &#8220;FO has a higher standard&#8221; mantra, I think they are playing with fire. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always disliked Williams, but I&#8217;m surprised at the Payton/Ornstein connection with this. I know SP is a bit of a maverick but I am surprised he would allow this  to get pushed so far.</p>
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		<title>By: infectorman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[greenman660 says: Mar 11, 2012 6:43 PM

If they’re gonna penalize the Saints franchise, they better do the same to WAS/BUF/TEN.
Leave the franchise alone, that just screws with the fans. Penalize the folks responsible for it in a harsh manner and move one.
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Is this all not as much the fault of Payton than it is Williams?
Who did Williams report to?   Same person that was RESPONSIBLE  for Williams&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Sean Payton
Shocked if Payton coaches in the 2012-13 season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greenman660 says: Mar 11, 2012 6:43 PM</p>
<p>If they’re gonna penalize the Saints franchise, they better do the same to WAS/BUF/TEN.<br />
Leave the franchise alone, that just screws with the fans. Penalize the folks responsible for it in a harsh manner and move one.<br />
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<p>Is this all not as much the fault of Payton than it is Williams?<br />
Who did Williams report to?   Same person that was RESPONSIBLE  for Williams&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Sean Payton<br />
Shocked if Payton coaches in the 2012-13 season.</p>
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		<title>By: nolarules</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gotampabay52 
Really, move the Saints out of New Orleans and punish the fans who had nothing to do with this?  Sounds fair.  Should also move the bucs to London seeing as their loser fan base refuses to actually support them, even when they are good.  What a joke of a fan base you are.

bucfaninil
really, I understand some harsh punishments are coming and are deserved.  but the last thing that the NFL wants is another team out there with the fan support the bucs have.  Take that much away and there will be as many people at Saints games as there are at the Bucs home games.  And the NFL does not want that to happen.

And it is cute that you Buc fans are the ones calling for these sorts of punishments.  Possibly worry about the Panthers who are going to be the real killers of this division for a while.  I am sorry that they have Cam and you have Freeman.  My Saints are probably cooked for a while because of this.  But to make them non competitive for the next 6 to 10 years for this?  Not going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gotampabay52<br />
Really, move the Saints out of New Orleans and punish the fans who had nothing to do with this?  Sounds fair.  Should also move the bucs to London seeing as their loser fan base refuses to actually support them, even when they are good.  What a joke of a fan base you are.</p>
<p>bucfaninil<br />
really, I understand some harsh punishments are coming and are deserved.  but the last thing that the NFL wants is another team out there with the fan support the bucs have.  Take that much away and there will be as many people at Saints games as there are at the Bucs home games.  And the NFL does not want that to happen.</p>
<p>And it is cute that you Buc fans are the ones calling for these sorts of punishments.  Possibly worry about the Panthers who are going to be the real killers of this division for a while.  I am sorry that they have Cam and you have Freeman.  My Saints are probably cooked for a while because of this.  But to make them non competitive for the next 6 to 10 years for this?  Not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: GG Eden</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Fisher should also be scrutinized. Competition Committee member for many years, allowed Williams bounty system at the Oilers/Titans, and rehired him at the Rams this year WHILST knowing about the bounty system AND rejoining the Competition Committee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Fisher should also be scrutinized. Competition Committee member for many years, allowed Williams bounty system at the Oilers/Titans, and rehired him at the Rams this year WHILST knowing about the bounty system AND rejoining the Competition Committee.</p>
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		<title>By: GG Eden</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mataug says:
Mar 11, 2012 7:01 PM
The thing that really bothers me about the episode was that convicted felon (Mike Ornstein?) providing bounty money. I am just speculating here because Vegas may have been behind that and I have a feeling the NFL does not want to really investigate that part of this mess any further because the feds will definitely step in for stuff like that.

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Which scratches the surface of that topic &quot;the fix is in&quot;. Also, touches on how the Saints went after a bunch of personal records this year outside of the &#039;done way&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mataug says:<br />
Mar 11, 2012 7:01 PM<br />
The thing that really bothers me about the episode was that convicted felon (Mike Ornstein?) providing bounty money. I am just speculating here because Vegas may have been behind that and I have a feeling the NFL does not want to really investigate that part of this mess any further because the feds will definitely step in for stuff like that.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Which scratches the surface of that topic &#8220;the fix is in&#8221;. Also, touches on how the Saints went after a bunch of personal records this year outside of the &#8216;done way&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo75025</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cowboycjn says: 
Mar 11, 2012 9:07 PM 
Yes, Yes, Yes – you are right on track.
Las Vegas beters (mafia bosses) bet millions on these games.When the strong team gets the odds up, the games are fixed (paid off) to let the weak team win. Hell with 5:1 odds and you bet a million they get 5 million in pay off.

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Dude, you really need to get to Vegas more.  Virtually all major sport betting is done based on a point differential and not on &quot;odds&quot;.  While there are good teams and bad teams, they are not as far apart as they seem.

Only major (if it even qualifies as major anymore though) sport I can think of with &quot;odds&quot; betting is boxing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cowboycjn says:<br />
Mar 11, 2012 9:07 PM<br />
Yes, Yes, Yes – you are right on track.<br />
Las Vegas beters (mafia bosses) bet millions on these games.When the strong team gets the odds up, the games are fixed (paid off) to let the weak team win. Hell with 5:1 odds and you bet a million they get 5 million in pay off.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Dude, you really need to get to Vegas more.  Virtually all major sport betting is done based on a point differential and not on &#8220;odds&#8221;.  While there are good teams and bad teams, they are not as far apart as they seem.</p>
<p>Only major (if it even qualifies as major anymore though) sport I can think of with &#8220;odds&#8221; betting is boxing.</p>
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		<title>By: bigjdve</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple thoughts. 

It was mentioned that if he is banned for life, there could be an anti-trust violation. How so, isn&#039;t that why there is a CBA so that there isn&#039;t anti-trust issues? 

Also there is precedent that if you are found guilty of a crime against a profession of being made UN-hireable by the entire profession. Just look at the financial services industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple thoughts. </p>
<p>It was mentioned that if he is banned for life, there could be an anti-trust violation. How so, isn&#8217;t that why there is a CBA so that there isn&#8217;t anti-trust issues? </p>
<p>Also there is precedent that if you are found guilty of a crime against a profession of being made UN-hireable by the entire profession. Just look at the financial services industry.</p>
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		<title>By: phuto</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a fan or dislike this team or coaches. I have a question ? How many players were put out of a game during this bounty era ? I never read anything about how this changed a game bc a player was put out of a game . Just wondering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a fan or dislike this team or coaches. I have a question ? How many players were put out of a game during this bounty era ? I never read anything about how this changed a game bc a player was put out of a game . Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: musicman495</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fortunately for the NFL, if they do ban Gregg Williams and he does bring a lawsuit against the NFL, they can simply turn over the findings of their investigation and let the federal, state or even local governments seek charges against him.
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How about they start by turning the NFL&#039;s findings over to the public, so we can decide for ourselves what actually happened, and confirm the league&#039;s interpretation of the facts?  I am not a Saints fan, but I suspect the Saints are being singled out as the victims of a witch hunt, intended less to clean up the game, and more to allow the league to do some CYA in regards to all their pending lawsuits.  I have heard people talking about these types of bounties for 30 years, but the Saints are the only ones punished?  Three years this supposedly went on, and the only actual hits we hear people talking about is a couple on Brett Favre in one game?  I smell someone getting railroaded in order to save Goodell&#039;s backside.  Before all these punishments are meted out, where are the facts and results of the investigation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately for the NFL, if they do ban Gregg Williams and he does bring a lawsuit against the NFL, they can simply turn over the findings of their investigation and let the federal, state or even local governments seek charges against him.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
How about they start by turning the NFL&#8217;s findings over to the public, so we can decide for ourselves what actually happened, and confirm the league&#8217;s interpretation of the facts?  I am not a Saints fan, but I suspect the Saints are being singled out as the victims of a witch hunt, intended less to clean up the game, and more to allow the league to do some CYA in regards to all their pending lawsuits.  I have heard people talking about these types of bounties for 30 years, but the Saints are the only ones punished?  Three years this supposedly went on, and the only actual hits we hear people talking about is a couple on Brett Favre in one game?  I smell someone getting railroaded in order to save Goodell&#8217;s backside.  Before all these punishments are meted out, where are the facts and results of the investigation?</p>
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		<title>By: keepyerstickontheice</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL should vacate the Bills 31 losses for the three years he was head coach there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL should vacate the Bills 31 losses for the three years he was head coach there.</p>
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		<title>By: robf2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;cash-for-crippling conspiracy&quot;

Cute.  

During a NFL Network broadcast I watched just a few minutes ago of the Steelers-Seahawks Super Bowl, a Seattle coach was heard telling his players about the Steelers&#039; Joey Porter, &quot;Take him out&quot;.  I&#039;m sure he meant to say &quot;for dinner and dancing&quot; but never got around to it.  This whole thing is horsepuckey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;cash-for-crippling conspiracy&#8221;</p>
<p>Cute.  </p>
<p>During a NFL Network broadcast I watched just a few minutes ago of the Steelers-Seahawks Super Bowl, a Seattle coach was heard telling his players about the Steelers&#8217; Joey Porter, &#8220;Take him out&#8221;.  I&#8217;m sure he meant to say &#8220;for dinner and dancing&#8221; but never got around to it.  This whole thing is horsepuckey.</p>
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		<title>By: erod22</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the Redskins and Bills?]]></description>
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		<title>By: thraiderskin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe a lifetime ban would be fair... The responsibility he had in what might have happened, could have reverberated far beyond a year to a player(if you get my drift). However, for the sake of the NFL, something the players seemed to not get during the lockout, possible legal action from Williams could very well be more damaging then the player safety issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe a lifetime ban would be fair&#8230; The responsibility he had in what might have happened, could have reverberated far beyond a year to a player(if you get my drift). However, for the sake of the NFL, something the players seemed to not get during the lockout, possible legal action from Williams could very well be more damaging then the player safety issue.</p>
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		<title>By: themonster49</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL clearly makes decisions for the good of the NFL, so it will be hard to predict what they will actually do.

Fortunately for the NFL, if they do ban Gregg Williams and he does bring a lawsuit against the NFL, they can simply turn over the findings of their investigation and let the federal, state or even local governments seek charges against him. The downside to that is the obvious negative impact both directly and through public appeal on the NFL.

There is a common way of approaching these situations. I may do wrong but when you cross the line on me i will cast aside my fear of my guilt and any punishment it may bring and make known to all every thing you have done whether it incriminates me or not because what i did was nothing to what you tried doing to me. The NFL probably knew about this for a long time, maybe even technically protecting other people, in the past, for the good of the NFL in their eyes. But once they tried going after a publicly outed Gregg Williams, if he retaliates by bringing a lawsuit or really anything else, they can say screw you to him and release everything they have, even if it eventually brings bad things thier own way. Because the fact is he is the bad guy. Or at least the much worse of whoever is guilty in this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL clearly makes decisions for the good of the NFL, so it will be hard to predict what they will actually do.</p>
<p>Fortunately for the NFL, if they do ban Gregg Williams and he does bring a lawsuit against the NFL, they can simply turn over the findings of their investigation and let the federal, state or even local governments seek charges against him. The downside to that is the obvious negative impact both directly and through public appeal on the NFL.</p>
<p>There is a common way of approaching these situations. I may do wrong but when you cross the line on me i will cast aside my fear of my guilt and any punishment it may bring and make known to all every thing you have done whether it incriminates me or not because what i did was nothing to what you tried doing to me. The NFL probably knew about this for a long time, maybe even technically protecting other people, in the past, for the good of the NFL in their eyes. But once they tried going after a publicly outed Gregg Williams, if he retaliates by bringing a lawsuit or really anything else, they can say screw you to him and release everything they have, even if it eventually brings bad things thier own way. Because the fact is he is the bad guy. Or at least the much worse of whoever is guilty in this.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboycjn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Yes, Yes - you are right on track.

mataug says: Mar 11, 2012 7:01 PM 
The thing that really bothers me about the episode was that convicted felon (Mike Ornstein?) providing bounty money. I am just speculating here because Vegas may have been behind that and I have a feeling the NFL does not want to really investigate that part of this mess any further because the feds will definitely step in for stuff like that.
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I have been saying and printed this several times but they take it off because its true.  The entire NFL (all 32 teams) are in organized crime beting each week and play offs to the SB. 
Las Vegas beters (mafia bosses) bet millions on these games.When the strong team gets the odds up, the games are fixed (paid off) to let the weak team win.  Hell with 5:1 odds and you bet a million they get 5 million in pay off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Yes, Yes &#8211; you are right on track.</p>
<p>mataug says: Mar 11, 2012 7:01 PM<br />
The thing that really bothers me about the episode was that convicted felon (Mike Ornstein?) providing bounty money. I am just speculating here because Vegas may have been behind that and I have a feeling the NFL does not want to really investigate that part of this mess any further because the feds will definitely step in for stuff like that.<br />
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I have been saying and printed this several times but they take it off because its true.  The entire NFL (all 32 teams) are in organized crime beting each week and play offs to the SB.<br />
Las Vegas beters (mafia bosses) bet millions on these games.When the strong team gets the odds up, the games are fixed (paid off) to let the weak team win.  Hell with 5:1 odds and you bet a million they get 5 million in pay off.</p>
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		<title>By: patfic15</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cash for crippling? Who did they knock out of a game? Yeah...didn&#039;t think so. The worse part of this is that the powers that be will make sure the Saints do not make it to the Super Bowl this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash for crippling? Who did they knock out of a game? Yeah&#8230;didn&#8217;t think so. The worse part of this is that the powers that be will make sure the Saints do not make it to the Super Bowl this year.</p>
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		<title>By: bucfaninil</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1626094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bucfaninil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Williams == Lifetime Ban
Payton == Lifetime Ban
Vilma == Lifetime Ban
Saints Organization == Loss of 2012 and 2013 Draft... Loss of First, Second and Third Round Picks 2014 Draft, Loss of 2015 First Round Pick...

Loss of Franchise Tag, and ability to tender RFAs and ERFA&#039;s until 2015 season


harsh... cruel.... long-lasting

then write it into law the next offender has twice that penalty... any repeat offender loses their franchise and $500 million fine

:P

harsh penalties are the only good penalties]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams == Lifetime Ban<br />
Payton == Lifetime Ban<br />
Vilma == Lifetime Ban<br />
Saints Organization == Loss of 2012 and 2013 Draft&#8230; Loss of First, Second and Third Round Picks 2014 Draft, Loss of 2015 First Round Pick&#8230;</p>
<p>Loss of Franchise Tag, and ability to tender RFAs and ERFA&#8217;s until 2015 season</p>
<p>harsh&#8230; cruel&#8230;. long-lasting</p>
<p>then write it into law the next offender has twice that penalty&#8230; any repeat offender loses their franchise and $500 million fine<br />
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<p>harsh penalties are the only good penalties</p>
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		<title>By: seanx40</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1626037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seanx40]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like said above by a few, more than 1 yr but less than lifetime. 3-5 yrs sounds right. No one will want him after than anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like said above by a few, more than 1 yr but less than lifetime. 3-5 yrs sounds right. No one will want him after than anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: captaincanuck84</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1626027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[captaincanuck84]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ban Williams for three years, Payton and loomis one year apiece. Williams has his contract torn up and Payton and loomis are fined their yearly salary and it goes to nflpa for retirees. Fine benson 5 million and give it to retirees as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ban Williams for three years, Payton and loomis one year apiece. Williams has his contract torn up and Payton and loomis are fined their yearly salary and it goes to nflpa for retirees. Fine benson 5 million and give it to retirees as well.</p>
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		<title>By: broncobrewer</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1626024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[broncobrewer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It should be the same as when pats got cheating, they got a slap on the wrist so should Williams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be the same as when pats got cheating, they got a slap on the wrist so should Williams.</p>
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		<title>By: captainyak</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[captainyak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He should be banned the same length of time he is found guilty of implementing the bounty system. 3yrs. All the players that were injured for opposing teams during the that time period and teams had to pay medical bills that amount should be New Orleans fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should be banned the same length of time he is found guilty of implementing the bounty system. 3yrs. All the players that were injured for opposing teams during the that time period and teams had to pay medical bills that amount should be New Orleans fine.</p>
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		<title>By: whatevnfl</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatevnfl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After thinking about this some more, didn&#039;t Jim Tressel ridiculously get like a 6 game suspension from the NFL/Colts for Ohio State things before he even was allowed to start with the Colts/NFL??  Anything less than that for Williams or even Payton (esp if he took money from that pig Ornstein) would not be right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After thinking about this some more, didn&#8217;t Jim Tressel ridiculously get like a 6 game suspension from the NFL/Colts for Ohio State things before he even was allowed to start with the Colts/NFL??  Anything less than that for Williams or even Payton (esp if he took money from that pig Ornstein) would not be right.</p>
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		<title>By: greysolon</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greysolon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anything other than a lengthy ban will be hypocritical compared to what so many players like Harrison have gotten. Ban Williams for five years. Ban Payton for one year. Ban Loomis for one year. 

Just think-- if the Steelers&#039; James Harrison was caught ONCE giving a teammate $20 for a good hit, he&#039;d be banned for life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything other than a lengthy ban will be hypocritical compared to what so many players like Harrison have gotten. Ban Williams for five years. Ban Payton for one year. Ban Loomis for one year. </p>
<p>Just think&#8211; if the Steelers&#8217; James Harrison was caught ONCE giving a teammate $20 for a good hit, he&#8217;d be banned for life.</p>
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		<title>By: wwwfella</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625921</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wwwfella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me get this straight...he ran a bounty system spread out over years and 3 teams, lied to the nfl about doing it and continued the system. The head coach, g.m, and owner knew about it. The owner told the g.m to put a stop to it and he didnt is that about right? After what happened to Joe Paterno they should all be gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight&#8230;he ran a bounty system spread out over years and 3 teams, lied to the nfl about doing it and continued the system. The head coach, g.m, and owner knew about it. The owner told the g.m to put a stop to it and he didnt is that about right? After what happened to Joe Paterno they should all be gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625919</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bounties have been around forever. These guys were collecting funds for their bounties from an outside felon not working for the team--and the guy was rewarded with a Super Bowl ring. That sure implies this is about more than bounties. And if this investigation continues, it might wind up with the feds. Everyone involved will be lucky if the trail stops at bounties and a lifetime ban for Williams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bounties have been around forever. These guys were collecting funds for their bounties from an outside felon not working for the team&#8211;and the guy was rewarded with a Super Bowl ring. That sure implies this is about more than bounties. And if this investigation continues, it might wind up with the feds. Everyone involved will be lucky if the trail stops at bounties and a lifetime ban for Williams.</p>
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		<title>By: barneysbullet</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barneysbullet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregg Williams &gt; Pete Rose (greater misdeed) = BAN FOR LIFE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg Williams &gt; Pete Rose (greater misdeed) = BAN FOR LIFE.</p>
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		<title>By: mataug</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mataug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing that really bothers me about the episode was that convicted felon (Mike Ornstein?) providing bounty money. I am just speculating here because Vegas may have been behind that and I have a feeling the NFL does not want to &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; investigate that part of this mess any further because the feds will definitely step in for stuff like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that really bothers me about the episode was that convicted felon (Mike Ornstein?) providing bounty money. I am just speculating here because Vegas may have been behind that and I have a feeling the NFL does not want to <i>really</i> investigate that part of this mess any further because the feds will definitely step in for stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: isujames</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[isujames]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He should be made an example, ban him for life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should be made an example, ban him for life.</p>
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		<title>By: edusregis</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/rams-expect-to-learn-gregg-williams-fate-this-week/#comment-1625894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edusregis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One year seems fair, unless you can prove some sort of criminal intent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One year seems fair, unless you can prove some sort of criminal intent.</p>
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		<title>By: turbodog1027</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[turbodog1027]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ban Williams for life and any other defensive coach that preaches an aggressive hard-hitting defense. Hard hits and aggressive play have no place in today&#039;s professional football. Next up is a 15 yd penalty for calling an opponent a bad name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ban Williams for life and any other defensive coach that preaches an aggressive hard-hitting defense. Hard hits and aggressive play have no place in today&#8217;s professional football. Next up is a 15 yd penalty for calling an opponent a bad name.</p>
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