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Vincent Jackson could be Robert Griffin III’s top receiver

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Now that Robert Griffin III has been penciled in as Washington’s quarterback for the next decade, the Redskins would like to find him a No. 1 receiver.

We noted last month that the Redskins are planning to be major players in the wide receiver market in free agency, and that Vincent Jackson appears to be the Redskins’ top target. Houston sports radio host Lance Zierlein reports that the belief around the league now, after the Redskins traded up to draft Griffin, is that Redskins are ready to go very hard after Jackson.

Jackson could make a lot of sense as Griffin’s top target. He’s an experienced No. 1 receiver, but at age 29 he isn’t showing any signs of slowing down yet. Last year he started all 16 games and had 60 catches for 1,106 yards and nine touchdowns.

But the Redskins will have competition for Jackson’s services. We’ve previously identified the Bears, Bills and Buccaneers as teams that are expected to make him an offer when free agency starts on Tuesday.

Pierre Garcon, Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, Plaxico Burress and Mario Manningham have also been mentioned as potential free agent receivers for the Redskins.

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  1. jharmon64 says: Mar 11, 2012 7:43 AM

    Does one think that an all pro WR like Jackson wants to get his passes from a rookie?

  2. waltdawg says: Mar 11, 2012 7:45 AM

    Leave the Plax at the door…We don’t need any gun toten’ has beens on our team…By the way, dude is way too skinny….Looks just like one of the Skinnies in Black Hawk Down

  3. tom35mt says: Mar 11, 2012 7:45 AM

    Why not overpay for Randy Moss, that’s the reskins way.

  4. karlpilkington says: Mar 11, 2012 7:48 AM

    When skins go hard. They normally get who they want. Happy days are here again..

  5. myopinionmattersandyoursblows says: Mar 11, 2012 7:51 AM

    No chance he lands in Wash. Too many teams w/ a need at WR AND are a playoff caliber team (despite what Shananaganhan says…)

  6. satanphoenix says: Mar 11, 2012 7:56 AM

    They really don’t have a choice but free agency since they lost all their draft picks with the RGIII trade now do they?

  7. mpayne12 says: Mar 11, 2012 7:56 AM

    Jackson would be an expensive but nice pickup for the skins. Just as long as they save money for a CB and some oline upgrades they should be in pretty good shape

  8. clw1906 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:00 AM

    Hey tom35mt you sound like an assclown with your inaccurate statement. The Redskins are almost $50mil under the cap because they stopped overpaying but jackasses like yourself probably aren’t smart enough to figure that out.

  9. skinspop102 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:00 AM

    V Jax’s age is the only thing I worry about. Whearas Pierre Garcon is only 25.

  10. captainyak says: Mar 11, 2012 8:01 AM

    Steve Smith Loved catching passes from a Rookie Quarterback.

  11. percell1 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:03 AM

    @waltdog, thank you for reminding us that racism is alive and doing well.

  12. jenniferxxx says: Mar 11, 2012 8:03 AM

    Free agents … load up. That’s the winning formula. Just ask the Eagles.

  13. realityonetwo says: Mar 11, 2012 8:03 AM

    jharmon64 says:
    Mar 11, 2012 7:43 AM
    Does one think that an all pro WR like Jackson wants to get his passes from a rookie?

    ——–

    Maybe you should ask Steve Smith about that…

  14. katrinasafterbirth says: Mar 11, 2012 8:10 AM

    After giving up the future just for Robbie, why would anyone go to Washington? Look at the big picture…unless VJax likes catching balls while getting thumped upon for the rest of his career. That trade was so bad, that even Jerry Jones wouldn’t have made it.

    Dan Snyder must believe in the Mayans, that is why he’s not looking past this year.

  15. sickcuz says: Mar 11, 2012 8:10 AM

    All pro WR Steve Smith decided to stay in Carolina last year to get passes from rookie Cam Newton…think before you type

  16. gweez76 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:14 AM

    Get your boo hoo boxes Girls, Uggles and Gmen.

    3 wins off the division with Beck and Grossman starting. Youngest team in the division.

    You’ve had your 20 year run, you’ve had your fun.

    Time to be subjugated again.

  17. djstat says: Mar 11, 2012 8:15 AM

    How cool will it b when Fred Davis and Jackson both get year long suspensions?

  18. bhester1906 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:17 AM

    Haven’t overpayed anyone since the Shanny-Allen era. Find a new joke tom35mt….

  19. bhester1906 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:17 AM

    *overpaid lol.

  20. buchopeful says: Mar 11, 2012 8:20 AM

    What? you probably don’t have enough money Bruce Allen, you silly incompetent little GM you…

  21. buchopeful says: Mar 11, 2012 8:23 AM

    Meh, they’re around 40 mil…they do have the space..but not the smarts to pull it off IMO.

  22. smakhhm says: Mar 11, 2012 8:25 AM

    @jharmon64. Seems Panthers Steve smith isn’t complaining.

  23. thehateholiday says: Mar 11, 2012 8:26 AM

    Can we please stop pretending that Mario manningham is a desired free agent? Dude got beat out by a practice squad player in Cruz. I’d take Santana and Armstrong over that stiff.

  24. hail74 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:29 AM

    Roddy white and Steve jackson were on nfl network and when asked which rookie qb they would want to catch passes from both said rg3. I think he will be a great recruiting tool

  25. hail74 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:34 AM

    Satanpheonix you do realize we only lost a 2nd rounder in this draft

  26. tom35mt says: Mar 11, 2012 8:34 AM

    @ clw1906

    McNabb, Albert haynesworth

    Some people have really short memory

  27. barnold1993 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:34 AM

    @Jenniferxxx so completely inaccurate. The eagles do that every year, we never build through the draft. Have you ever payed attention to Eagles football. People act surprised we got so many free agents we always do. Plus shortened pre seasons almost no otas. We will be a lot better this year. 10-13 wins.

  28. raiderfankirk says: Mar 11, 2012 8:34 AM

    Makes since. Jackson is the Albert hanyesworth of receivers. Anyone see the Oakland game last season where he just quit before the game was over. Rivers was like wtf man .They would be better served staying away from the me first players.

  29. higgy5353 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:37 AM

    Free agents carriers die when they get to Washington

  30. mwood1718 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:40 AM

    Vincent Jackson has already said he would be willing to take a hometown discount to stay in San Diego. The dude’s 29, he wants to play for a competitive team with a top 10 QB. Bears/Chargers favourites.

  31. thegonz13 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:43 AM

    OK, so basically, what this says is that the Redskins will target every free agent receiver available.

    Big news!

  32. thehateholiday says: Mar 11, 2012 8:50 AM

    @sickcuz All pro WR Steve Smith decided to stay in Carolina last year to get passes from rookie Cam Newton…think before you type

    yeah, after he had two horrible seasons and was widely accepted in the league to be on the downside of his career, he chose to stay on the existing contract he was on. thats different than VJax deciding to go to a rookie QB. not that I think VJax cares about anything but $$$$$, so yeah, he will end up a redskin and they will overpay.

  33. watermelon1 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:50 AM

    I think the Skins can actually get Jackson because he seems like a guy that’s really just in it for the money. Where as someone like Marcus Colston will probably take less to go to a team like the Patriots where he has a better chance at a championship.

    And since Jackson is a jump-ball receiver, it probably works out better for him, Griffin the 3rd, and the Redskins anyway.

    And to the person who mentioned Pierre Garcon… I think anyone would rather have a sure-handed Jackson over a speedy guy who drops a lot of easy should-be catches.

  34. skinsfan1981 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:51 AM

    Love the comment that we traded all our picks away for RG3, if u knew what u were talking about u would know we have 7 in 2012, 7 in 2013 and 6 in 2014. Sounds like plenty of picks to me

  35. skinsrollyou says: Mar 11, 2012 8:55 AM

    I dont like vjax’s character. But I guess what choice do we have. All the other wide receivers mentioned are frauds. I hope baby Leonard develops

  36. cmarsh64 says: Mar 11, 2012 8:57 AM

    Until Washington gets an OL RGIII won’t matter if he’s being chased by NFL DE’s and LB’s that can chase him down. The Redskins have signed WR’s before and they all failed in Washington with 1 exception Santana Moss. They must also find a running game and a back who can stay healthy.There are alot of holes to fill in Washington and 40 mil this year won’t fix them all.You are losing Fletcher and Landry on Def and that exp you just can’t replace in 1 year just ask Eagles fans how the Dream Team worked out! If the Redskins don’t finish 8-8 or better those 1st rd picks in 2013 and 2014 will hurt the team because they can’t get the blue chip players in rd 1.

  37. bucks12965 says: Mar 11, 2012 9:00 AM

    As long as he doesn’t get another DUI, I think this would be a good pick up.

    But why is a Houston talk-radio host being cited as a source regarding who the Skins may pick up?

  38. mempusa says: Mar 11, 2012 9:04 AM

    If I were the Washington Redskins, I’d be doing everything in my power to get Mike Wallace. After forking over their 1st rounders, they need to get young and talented ASAP.

  39. gorilladik81 says: Mar 11, 2012 9:06 AM

    Cam Newton and Smith had a good year, but the panthers had a horrible record I think Jackson would rather be on a winner, Steve Smith only stayed because the Panthers couldn’t get what they wanted in a trade.

  40. purplecrowe says: Mar 11, 2012 9:13 AM

    @ jharmon64

    Does one think that an all-pro WR like Steve Smith really cared that he got his passes from a rookie?

  41. countryskinsfan says: Mar 11, 2012 9:13 AM

    @ 4:01 pm est Tuesday, VJ signs with Redskins….

  42. deangelo23hall says: Mar 11, 2012 9:16 AM

    ^Except he has a 1st rd tender. Unless you want the Skins to fork over the No. 2 pick this year and Get Mike Wallace instead of RG3 and have Grossman underthrow him a dozen times.

  43. andyreidsbossoms says: Mar 11, 2012 9:39 AM

    Rg3 is built like a p.o.w. just another foreskins fail

  44. drop703 says: Mar 11, 2012 9:41 AM

    Vinny and Danny paid for Albert…get it right @Tom35mt. Although the trade to get Mcnabb was definitely a mistake by Bruce and Mike, that cost them a 2nd/4th pick. Besides that, the new regime has drafted well and make some good pickups in free agency…I expect that to continue.

  45. ike301 says: Mar 11, 2012 9:54 AM

    @gweez76

    Crack is wack.

  46. skinsfantom says: Mar 11, 2012 9:55 AM

    Make room in the SB TROPHY CASE WOOOO! and don’t 4get to HAIL!!!

  47. gweez76 says: Mar 11, 2012 9:56 AM

    ^ What are you talking about? 4:01 he becomes a UFA.

  48. imopen7 says: Mar 11, 2012 10:11 AM

    u mean rg tray could be vincent jackson’s #1 qb?

  49. ohcomeonthatsfunny says: Mar 11, 2012 10:19 AM

    To the folks pointing out bad free agent signings… heres a history lesson. McNabb was a TRADE & had his last year of his contract redone to give that worthless turd a few million to stop crying after the benching. That DEAL allowed us to walk away from him after the season. Ergo… beautiful work by Allen. Also, Allen wasn’t here to bring in Fat Albert… we have Vinny C to thank for that $45 million inappropriate touching experiment…

  50. lanzurrah says: Mar 11, 2012 10:23 AM

    Jackson simply isn’t a dominant receiver. He rarely makes clutch catches, is a complete knucklehead, and disappears in crunch time. There’s a huge contingent of charger fans that don’t even want him.

  51. gcsuk says: Mar 11, 2012 10:27 AM

    gweez76 says:
    Mar 11, 2012 8:14 AM
    Get your boo hoo boxes Girls, Uggles and Gmen.

    3 wins off the division with Beck and Grossman starting. Youngest team in the division.

    You’ve had your 20 year run, you’ve had your fun.

    Time to be subjugated again.
    ———————————————————–

    skinsfantom says:
    Mar 11, 2012 9:55 AM
    Make room in the SB TROPHY CASE WOOOO! and don’t 4get to HAIL!!!
    ———————————————————–

    Do you guys remember what happened to the Eagles (and their fans) after they “won” the off-season last year? Being optimistic is one thing…that’s part of being a fan. But “subjugated”? Lighten up, son.

  52. gweez76 says: Mar 11, 2012 10:30 AM

    I’m a Skins fan but McNabb was a bad move by Shanny. He owns that. Fair critism.

    Albert has nothing to do with Shanny. In fact Shanny just treated him like everyone else. It was his decision to shape up or ship out.

  53. majbobby says: Mar 11, 2012 10:36 AM

    From what I hear about VJax is is going to be about the money. I am also hearing Buffalo Bills have a 6 Year 68M deal sitting for him.

  54. bigjdve says: Mar 11, 2012 10:44 AM

    I would like to see Vjax as a Redskin. It would also be nice to see Garcon as competition for the other receivers.

    I like what Brian Mitchell said yesterday.

    The Redskins made the trade yesterday in order to set themselves up for free agency.

    Look for them to pick up 1 – 2 receivers, 1 – 2 OL, hopefully a CB.

    Someone mentioned Mike Wallace, the Steelers put a 1st rd tender on him so as to get something in return for him. They know that they can’t keep him past this year as they prefer Antonio Brown. So he could possibly be had for less maybe a 3rd and 5th. It might be interesting.

  55. mwcarolina says: Mar 11, 2012 10:49 AM

    Does one think that an all pro WR like Jackson wants to get his passes from a rookie?
    —————————————————-
    uh, ask Steve Smith, he sure loved it. as for VJax, i expect him to decide between 3 teams who offer him more money, and i think it’s down to Chicago vs. Washington.

  56. tonyromoisterrible says: Mar 11, 2012 10:58 AM

    katrinasafterbirth says:
    Mar 11, 2012 8:10 AM
    After giving up the future just for Robbie, why would anyone go to Washington? Look at the big picture…unless VJax likes catching balls while getting thumped upon for the rest of his career. That trade was so bad, that even Jerry Jones wouldn’t have made it.

    Dan Snyder must believe in the Mayans, that is why he’s not looking past this year.

    ___________________________________
    One draft pick for each of the next three years is hardly mortgaging the future. This site just allows a platform for idiots like you to show the world how truly stupid you are. The SKINS traded picks in round one, they don’t have a second (lost draft pick). They don’t have a number one next year and in 2014. Thats three draft picks. You wouldn’t trade 3 draft picks for Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, or Cam Newton? If you wouldn’t then your even more stupid than even I anticipate. Jerry Jones would have traded his whole roster to get a franchise QB that doesn’t choke in the spot light. Eat a d1zzle.

  57. bryjord says: Mar 11, 2012 11:07 AM

    I liked the trade but the arrogant attitude of the Redskins “fans” is funny. That stadium was half empty and the radio was full of calls saying to fire Allen and Shanahan last season and now after a new QB(again), they are super bowl contenders for the next decade?

    Sorry, but that is not how it works. RG3 is a very good player and could be a long term star QB. But, San Diego had Vincent Jackson, a very good QB and a better team and won nothing.

    Long way to go for the Skins, and I don’t think they have the front office brains to pull off building an entire team around a QB to win. All of the current SB winners build primarily through the draft (GB, PITT, NY).

  58. erod22 says: Mar 11, 2012 11:09 AM

    So if Washington gets caught up in Bounty-gate and loses a first round pick, then what? Seems the league shouldn’t approve the trade just yet.

  59. udwnwitjpp says: Mar 11, 2012 11:14 AM

    As a giants fan i hope rg3 is the starter for the skins this year yessssssssss and i say that with confidence #sb46chammps

  60. cali49er707 says: Mar 11, 2012 11:19 AM

    its a 2 team race washington vs chicago
    who is gonna overpay???

  61. tropboi11 says: Mar 11, 2012 11:22 AM

    Stop bailing Bruce Allen out, the guy is a joke. And he might not have been the one to sign Fat Albert and thats because he got outbid for him (thank God), he was next in the running for him while he was the GM in Tampa. Allen made the worst draft choices in Tampa (do a recap of the 2008 draft, he took WR Dexter Jackson in the 2nd round, does anyone remember him?) and he also passed on AP and took Gaines Adams (im sure everyone knows what happened to him, r.i.p.), if the RG3 thing dosent work out you will begin to understand what im talking about, good luck thou.

  62. skinsrock says: Mar 11, 2012 11:24 AM

    I see the Redskins locking up Carl Nicks, V Jax, & Courtland Finnegan… There’s your 2 first rounders & a second we gave away… We used to outbid everyone when we were up against the cap… So what do you think the outcome will be when we have 49 million salary cap space?

  63. pauliewalnutz says: Mar 11, 2012 11:33 AM

    Ahh, I love reading some of these dumb and inaccurate comments from all the Redskins’ haters out there; u all saying the skins gave up too much in the trade, obviously don’t know football….All I keep hearing is how stupid the skins are for giving up so much when in all reality we didnt. First off, the skins didn’t lose or give-up 3 1st rdrs, they TRADED this yrs 1st for an even better 1st (2nd overall) ensuring that we grab our franchise QB for the next 10 yrs. This yr all we lost was our 2nd round pk…. that’s it, ONE 2nd rdr…. As for the 2 future 1st rounders we traded, only time will tell if they were worth losing, If the skins make it to the playoffs the next 2 yrs, those 1st rounders will land somewhere in the 20’s and dont look so attractive anymore. Plus, with masterminds like Bruce Allen and Old Shanny now running the draft, I would be shocked if we didn’t recoup one of those 1st rdrs we lost)….So 3 TOTAL picks to land RG3, a QB with all the intangibles, right attitude, finally a franchise QB Washington has been thriving for for decades. I absolutely love this trade b/c we are getting a freak of a qb and we only spent 3 draft picks spread out over 3 yrs (losing one each over the next 3 drafts.) I love the trade and what the skins are doing. We had a phenomenal draft last year and u might as well grade this yr’s draft an A too b/c Washington is about to take over the NFC East with RG3 running the show……HAIL!!!!

  64. flsnupe says: Mar 11, 2012 12:05 PM

    bucks12965 says:
    Mar 11, 2012 9:00 AM

    But why is a Houston talk-radio host being cited as a source regarding who the Skins may pick up?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Tony Wiley, former VP of PR in Houston is now in DC. Many of his former staff are too. Nevertheless, connections built in H-town or anywhere else is never disconnected. Same with Denver and Adam S and Shanahan.

  65. katrinasafterbirth says: Mar 11, 2012 12:23 PM

    tonyromoisterrible says:Mar 11, 2012 10:58 AM
    says:

    One draft pick for each of the next three years is hardly mortgaging the future. This site just allows a platform for idiots like you to show the world how truly stupid you are. The SKINS traded picks in round one, they don’t have a second (lost draft pick). They don’t have a number one next year and in 2014. Thats three draft picks. You wouldn’t trade 3 draft picks for Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, or Cam Newton? If you wouldn’t then your even more stupid than even I anticipate. Jerry Jones would have traded his whole roster to get a franchise QB that doesn’t choke in the spot light. Eat a d1zzle.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Your analogy is dumb. You’re assuming that the other picks would be irrelvant. Would you have three #1 picks to get Steve Young or Brett Favre? What if those 3 #1 picks turned out to be Aikman, Irvin, and Smith?? Also, now you’re gambing that the Foreskins can find some late round steals…ha, they can’t even get it right in the first 10 picks. They’re picks are usually busts, injury prone, or are taking knives to gun fights…

  66. stunzeed5 says: Mar 11, 2012 12:45 PM

    @tom35mt says:
    Mar 11, 2012 7:45 AM
    Why not overpay for Randy Moss, that’s the reskins way.
    ====================================

    Why don’t you “overpay” for a dictionary?

    Wow….seriously, “reskins”?

  67. stunzeed5 says: Mar 11, 2012 12:47 PM

    @satanphoenix says:
    Mar 11, 2012 7:56 AM
    They really don’t have a choice but free agency since they lost all their draft picks with the RGIII trade now do they?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yup, sure does suck getting RGIII, and STILL having 7 picks in the upcoming April draft….man, the average American sports fan is an idiot.

  68. thunderskins007 says: Mar 11, 2012 12:54 PM

    i am not opposed in landing vincent jackson, i think we would have to overpay to get him though and he can be a headache at times. i think we can go younger, cheaper, and better character with colston, garcon, manningham. and could get possibly 2 of em for cheaper than vincent jackson. we do have some pressing holes and ?’s at safety, o-line, cb, and linebacker. as much as some in washington think, WE DON’T HAVE A TEAM THAT CAN WIN NOW. we have some work to do, so to allen and shanahan let’s be smart and patient about our 40+mil of cap space. it does’nt have to be all done in one offseason.

  69. reach4succeed says: Mar 11, 2012 1:09 PM

    Like the sweet fragrance nectar that draws the bee to the flower. Wide receivers and offensive lineman will be falling over one another for the sacred right to play with the anointed one-Mr. RG III. YES!!!!!!! The Washington Redskins are Americas new team.

  70. jbcommonsense says: Mar 11, 2012 1:22 PM

    A worthy FA spree would have the Redskins get two WRs, including V-Jax or Colston, and either Meachem, Garcon, Wayne or Manningham. Then pick up a guard like Nicks and an RT. Resign Fletcher at MLB and RB Hightower.

  71. tom-a-hawk says: Mar 11, 2012 1:27 PM

    @satanphoenix says:
    Mar 11, 2012 7:56 AM
    They really don’t have a choice but free agency since they lost all their draft picks with the RGIII trade now do they?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yup, sure does suck getting RGIII, and STILL having 7 picks in the upcoming April draft….man, the average American sports fan is an idiot.

    ++++++++++++++++++++
    @stunzeed5:
    you’re spot on! redskins got younger through the draft last year, will get quality again this year with their 7 picks, and still have draft picks in 2013 and 2014.
    it’s funny to see people like @satanphoenix to repost nonsense that they probably read on some other message board.

  72. cfos00 says: Mar 11, 2012 2:13 PM

    Two things seem off on this. The age of Jackson, and other needs that also require attention to keep RGIII upright. The o-line could really use some help, and there are only a few really good linemen on the market. And why go for a WR that has a couple years left in his prime when you can sign a guy just entering his prime? Makes a lot more sense to go after a guy that can grow with RGIII than to sign a guy that has a few years and then will probably be on the downside of his career.

  73. skinsdiehard says: Mar 11, 2012 2:53 PM

    cmarsh64 says:
    Mar 11, 2012 8:57 AM
    Until Washington gets an OL RGIII won’t matter if he’s being chased by NFL DE’s and LB’s that can chase him down. The Redskins have signed WR’s before and they all failed in Washington with 1 exception Santana Moss. They must also find a running game and a back who can stay healthy.There are alot of holes to fill in Washington and 40 mil this year won’t fix them all.You are losing Fletcher and Landry on Def and that exp you just can’t replace in 1 year just ask Eagles fans how the Dream Team worked out! If the Redskins don’t finish 8-8 or better those 1st rd picks in 2013 and 2014 will hurt the team because they can’t get the blue chip players in rd 1.
    —————————————–
    This is so ignorant. The Skins have a blue-chip LT and a good OLine. Check the rushing per carry stats from 2011. They averaged 4.0 yards per carry (22nd – better than Giants, Patriots, Packers, Bengals, Seahawks and Falcons. Teams that you probably respect). Also, the OL allowed 41 sacks (21st – better than Packers, Steelers, 49ers and Broncos – playoff teams). The QB makes the difference. I don’t understand all of the fervor over two picks in 2013 and 2014 that will ruin the team. It’s asinine. Santana Moss was acquired via trade for Laveranues Coles in 2005, not a free agent. Moss made the pro-bowl in 2005 and led the Skins to the playoffs. What failure? The only free agent WR that Washington signed were Randle El and Lloyd. Last I checked Lloyd is a sought-after player still. Randle El was a decent slot receiver for a while and contributed to our 2007 playoff team. Landry can’t stay healthy and Fletcher will be 37. It’s okay to lose Fletcher and Landry.

  74. slickzmoney says: Mar 11, 2012 3:03 PM

    I’d pass on Garcon – too many drops.

  75. gweez76 says: Mar 11, 2012 3:22 PM

    Gesuk,

    I was kidding, lighten up kid. We are minimum 2 years away but not as far off as some.

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