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Tom Benson, Sean Payton spent the weekend in New York

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As the NFL closes in on announcing punishment over the Saints’ bounties, Saints owner Tom Benson and head coach Sean Payton were apparently at the league office discussing the matter over the weekend.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune passes along a report from WVUE-8, a New Orleans TV station owned by Benson, that the two were in New York City over the weekend, presumably to meet with league officials about punishment for the bounty investigation.

A suspension for Payton and a fine and forfeiture of draft picks for the team are both possibilities. Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis is also likely facing league discipline, and about two dozen players who were members of the Saints’ defense over the last three years could be punished as well.

Gregg Williams, the defensive coordinator who ran the program with the Saints the last three years and is now with the Rams, will almost certainly receive the toughest punishment of all, punishment that is expected to be announced this week.

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41 Responses to “Tom Benson, Sean Payton spent the weekend in New York”
  1. rascalmanny says: Mar 12, 2012 8:46 AM

    Payton should get the same punishment as Williams.

  2. The Unlikely Expat says: Mar 12, 2012 8:50 AM

    I’ll bet they weren’t there to see the Chrysler Building and the Statue of Liberty.

  3. bumbler19 says: Mar 12, 2012 8:50 AM

    Lifetime ban.

    I would not be shocked if the DA where payment or injuries took place decided to file some kind of charges.

  4. jerrykill4pres says: Mar 12, 2012 8:52 AM

    I’m guessing Mr Benson isn’t going to be smiling like that for a little while after this whole thing shakes out. Especially with the gambling angle being uncovered here.

  5. clintonportisheadd says: Mar 12, 2012 8:52 AM

    Williams—–One year suspension / 3 Years Probation / $100K fine

    Peyton——-1/2 year suspension / 2 Years Probation / $100K fine

    Loomis——-$25oK fine

    Benson/Team—–The highest draft pick they have the next 3 years starting this year. $500K fine.

    You heard it here first…….

  6. domeinate says: Mar 12, 2012 9:00 AM

    Facts demonstrate that statements were only so much bravado and poorly chosen words used in the heat of email conversations. And who hasn’t said things in a competitive atmosphere that they did not bring to fruition especially in the face of penalties, fines, and possible injury to players. Facts will show no one was carted off the field, no one was unable to return to the field, and there were very few flags, fines, or injuries

  7. jenniferxxx says: Mar 12, 2012 9:07 AM

    Every time someone kicks a rock down in New Orleans something slithers out from under it.

  8. justafanofitall says: Mar 12, 2012 9:22 AM

    Why wasn’t Loomis fired immediatley by the owner for not following his orders….trust issue now.

    Williams should be suspended for 1-2 years and then probation.

    Peyton should be suspended for 1/2 -1 year for knowing and not doing anything about it.

    Would like to know how many players over the years with Williams defense bounties were knocked out of games for the season or career.

    Could there be lawsuits?

  9. MichaelEdits says: Mar 12, 2012 9:32 AM

    The appropriate punishment for Gregg Williams would be to make him head coach of the Buffalo Bills again.

  10. infectorman says: Mar 12, 2012 9:34 AM

    Payton should be ALL DONE;

    it all happened under HIS watch, and his email account surely has more than 1 or 2 emails from Paulie – the convicted Felon – Ornstein.
    With a dreg like Ornstein involved and all of the implications he brings to the situation, anyone saying this is not FAR WORSE than Spygate is a pure NE hater, incapable of seeing reality.
    Wonder how much $ the “friends of ours” made during the Saints run?

  11. abninf says: Mar 12, 2012 9:38 AM

    Who Dat!

  12. yevrag3535 says: Mar 12, 2012 9:44 AM

    clintonportisheadd – you heard it here first. Take a deep breath, chill out a little bit, it is not the end of the world. You could be right, we don’t want you to have a stroke over this.

  13. emaimo80 says: Mar 12, 2012 9:46 AM

    Williams deserves a lifetime ban, Peyton a year suspension at minimum, saints should forfeit their Super Bowl win, and loose their ability to draft or use their franchise tag this year. It is events like this that will eventually put an end to football, coaches encouraging injuries to other players????? I am very disappointed in the saints for setting such a horrible example to anyone that loves football. For that the leave is going to set an example and make them pay severely! If not than Goodell shouldn’t be getting paid what he is getting paid.

  14. cwmorga says: Mar 12, 2012 9:53 AM

    @bumbler19 says: Mar 12, 2012 8:50 AM

    Lifetime ban.

    I would not be shocked if the DA where payment or injuries took place decided to file some kind of charges.
    ————————–

    What injuries?

  15. gotampabay52 says: Mar 12, 2012 10:01 AM

    saints to LA move the team save the other NFL cities that could lose their team. hate the wo dat speak correctly you idiots

  16. scd7 says: Mar 12, 2012 10:08 AM

    I agree rascalmanny. While I originally thought Williams should be punished the most for his running the ‘program’, I think Peyton should be punished the most, or at least equally, if there’s absolute evidence he knew and didn’t stop it. He’s the head coach, he’s responsible for his coordinators. If he knew and ‘turned the other way’ then he’s just as much to blame, if not more so. If he knew and didn’t stop Williams, that’s no different from actively telling Williams to continue the program IMO.

  17. infectorman says: Mar 12, 2012 10:17 AM

    let me re-phrase:

    Payton should get suspended for a year minimum- perhaps longer.
    He had the chance to fess-up and lied to cover his A$$. A real HC would have kicked Gregg Williams Skinny a$$ and ended the program- a coach who had control of his team.
    Now Payton would may have Goodell believe he did not have control of his team, because it helps him to have “plausible deniability” with the whole mess.
    Up until the walls caved in around him, he’d have us, ESPN, FOX, CBS, NBC Sports, countless sportswriters, and potential free agents believe he was a mastermind HC, who guided his team AND coaches along a journey to Football excellence. Cant have it both ways. He reaped ENORMOUS benefits from Williams bounty programs as a coach-whether he completely knew or not. he is now part of the “Club” with a ring.

    Payton: 1 year minimum.
    Gregg Williams- GONE for GOOD!

  18. dmatt777 says: Mar 12, 2012 10:19 AM

    I am Big Who day fan. To all u hatas’, Who did we hurt? Who got maimed or carted off. Our defense SUCKED’WE LOST 2 PLYOFF GAMES cuz we couldn’t even tackle.
    What good was da frikkin bounty? Come on ya,ll get off your high horses. For heavens sakes. We should be punished but not beat down. Specially by all of you.

  19. rosieoutlook says: Mar 12, 2012 10:50 AM

    Everyone is acting crazy. The day the NFL stops players from hitting hard will be the end of the NFL. Maybe everyone should start blaming lawyers since they are the only ones who stand to gain anything in all of this garbage.

  20. captatl says: Mar 12, 2012 10:55 AM

    Payton should get what Williams gets plus more. Williams is a coordinator, Payton made the bigger dollars because he is responsible for more, including what his coaches do. The “Williams had full responsibility for the defense” is a copout. Payton is and rightly so, is the main culprit in this. If he didnt know then he did not do his job, but according to his book, one of his top qualities is attention to detail. He apparently has problems with the truth as well.

  21. batyuki says: Mar 12, 2012 10:55 AM

    @dmatt77
    You (and sadly many Saints fans) are hurting every single rule of English speaking (or writing in that case…)

    More seriously, I’m no hater and I don’t think the Saints should be forfeited their SB win or anything, the bounty thing doesn’t make the players play better…
    It was a incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do though, and the Saints deserve the bashing they’ve been getting for the past few weeks. A point needs to be made that bounties are not ok, the Saints were probably not the only team to have that kind of system but they’re the ones who got caught and they’re gonna be made an exemple of. Period.

    Deal with it.

  22. waitingguilty says: Mar 12, 2012 10:58 AM

    @infectorman…

    Williams skinny?

    Now THAT is funny.

  23. dmatt777 says: Mar 12, 2012 11:10 AM

    who did we hurt or maime? Who was carted off? Our defense was poo-poo.

  24. sean6886 says: Mar 12, 2012 11:17 AM

    Because they all were warned to stop and didn’t, then Loomis, Payton and Williams should be punished equally. Why should Williams take the brunt of the punishment? The Head Coach & GM both knew and did nothing to stop it-even after being told by the owner to stop.
    I’m sick and tired of head coaches, who get paid lots of money to be a HC, say they had no idea what was going on or no control over their coaches. Bunch of BS,

  25. dmatt777 says: Mar 12, 2012 11:26 AM

    to batyuki’
    think I spelled correctly. First, let me drop the slang, so you know I am intelligent. I never once said Saints should not be punished. We are all human and make Big mistakes along the way. With that said, I still don’t think Saints should take the brunt of the rude and ridiculous things said here. Its not like we even have all the facts. Now everybody slow your row, and lets just wait to see.

  26. darthhitman says: Mar 12, 2012 11:27 AM

    dmatt777 says: Mar 12, 2012 10:19 AM

    I am Big Who day fan. To all u hatas’, Who did we hurt? Who got maimed or carted off. Our defense SUCKED’WE LOST 2 PLYOFF GAMES cuz we couldn’t even tackle.
    What good was da frikkin bounty? Come on ya,ll get off your high horses. For heavens sakes. We should be punished but not beat down. Specially by all of you

    Can start with Favre and continue with Warner. Maybe you could have tackled and won those games if they weren’t looking for kill shots instead of just getting the ball carrier to the ground. Doesn’t matter if anybody was injured or maimed, money still changed hands didn’t it? Stop trying to bash the public for their criticism of your squad and stop trying to say nothing should happen to them because they’re your team. If Brees was favre or Warner you’d be right along with the rest of the fans wanting a the heaviest book they could find thrown at them

  27. jaygutta6559 says: Mar 12, 2012 11:33 AM

    @batyuki
    You (and sadly many Saints fans) are hurting every single rule of English speaking (or writing in that case…)

    More seriously, I’m no hater and I don’t think the Saints should be forfeited their SB win or anything, the bounty thing doesn’t make the players play better… It was a incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do though, and the Saints deserve the bashing they’ve been getting for the past few weeks. A point needs to be made that bounties are not ok, the Saints were probably not the only team to have that kind of system but they’re the ones who got caught and they’re gonna be made an exemple of. Period.

    Deal with it.

    Wow really your talking about us Saints fans and our grammar when you spelled example wrong and have the sentence structure of a 6 year old. You are obviously a Detroit Lions fan because it’s clear that you like to throw rocks in a glass house.

  28. cowboycjn says: Mar 12, 2012 12:05 PM

    More speculative reporting – just like everybody in here writting what they should get this or that. To say, (Story Quote)
    “A suspension for Payton and a fine and forfeiture of draft picks for the team are both possibilities. Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis is also likely facing league discipline, and about two dozen players who were members of the Saints’ defense over the last three years could be punished as well.” – - – - –
    Now you know this all for a fact or is this just wishful thinking? I really think the Saints have so much talent and are so strong a team that most teams and fans are scared to death of them so they are wishing the worse. Who-Dat will be back and I hope they beat all of you.

  29. cowboycjn says: Mar 12, 2012 12:14 PM

    You people need your head examined if you think YOUR team was not doing the exact same thing. Oh the mighty judges we have here, who can predict the future and know the exact time and amount of fines to take place. Yep everybody has one and boy they show here.
    Hey lady (jenniferxxx) there are no rocks in N.O. to have things slither out from underneath. We are a swamp remember, and yes things slither in the delta swamp. Oh forgot -everybody in your community lives in glass houses.

  30. dyetryin says: Mar 12, 2012 12:14 PM

    Yes the Saints need to be punished,this is unacceptable in this game we love.but if you all think it only happens in New Orleans,your living under some rocks.which reminds me of my favorite saying.”people who live In glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks.

  31. duece5 says: Mar 12, 2012 12:17 PM

    jaygutta6559 says:Mar 12, 2012 11:33 AM

    @batyuki
    You (and sadly many Saints fans) are hurting every single rule of English speaking (or writing in that case…)

    More seriously, I’m no hater and I don’t think the Saints should be forfeited their SB win or anything, the bounty thing doesn’t make the players play better… It was a incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do though, and the Saints deserve the bashing they’ve been getting for the past few weeks. A point needs to be made that bounties are not ok, the Saints were probably not the only team to have that kind of system but they’re the ones who got caught and they’re gonna be made an exemple of. Period.

    Deal with it.

    Wow really your talking about us Saints fans and our grammar when you spelled example wrong and have the sentence structure of a 6 year old. You are obviously a Detroit Lions fan because it’s clear that you like to throw rocks in a glass house.

    duece 5 says:

    Ummm…..the word “your” should have been you’re. Just saying….

  32. jimbo75025 says: Mar 12, 2012 12:32 PM

    Two thoughts of mind on this one…….

    1. I am sure Goodell would like to rain fire and brimstone here due to the ongoing long term health issue arguments.

    but…….

    2. Despite winning a Super Bowl 2 years ago, the Saints are simply not that far removed from being a franchise in real trouble. Remember the NFL made a huge investment in Superdome repairs also. Take away too many draft picks and you cripple the franchise which in turn hurts the NFL’s ROI.

    My prediction, Williams and Loomis get 1 year bans along with 4 games for Peyton and loss of 1st round pick either this year or next. Franchise gets maybe 500 K – 1 million fine which sounds huge but is really pocket change in the grand scheme of NFL ownership. Peyton is quietly fired following the season for cause as between Vicoden-gate and this there is a pattern.

  33. jimbo75025 says: Mar 12, 2012 12:36 PM

    Grr, sorry my post above should be Payton and not Peyton-too many stories about a certain QB lately

  34. farmmbig says: Mar 12, 2012 12:38 PM

    New Orleans should be stripped of hosting the 2013 Super Bowl—- Award it to Houston.

    Gregg Williams- Welcome to the CFL
    Sean Payton- One season banning + fine.
    Loomis- One season banning + fine
    Benson- $1 Million Fine

    * fine money toward Retired NFL vets/medical expense

    Draft Picks stripped as follows:

    2012- 2nd and 3rd Round Picks
    2013- 1st and 2nd Round Picks
    2014- 1st and 3rd Round Picks
    2015- 1st Round Picks
    (If no new violations of ANY NFL policy occurs, then picks for 2014 and 2015 could be reinstated)

  35. cwmorga says: Mar 12, 2012 1:09 PM

    @farmmbig says: Mar 12, 2012 12:38 PM

    New Orleans should be stripped of hosting the 2013 Super Bowl—- Award it to Houston.

    Gregg Williams- Welcome to the CFL
    Sean Payton- One season banning + fine.
    Loomis- One season banning + fine
    Benson- $1 Million Fine

    * fine money toward Retired NFL vets/medical expense

    Draft Picks stripped as follows:

    2012- 2nd and 3rd Round Picks
    2013- 1st and 2nd Round Picks
    2014- 1st and 3rd Round Picks
    2015- 1st Round Picks
    (If no new violations of ANY NFL policy occurs, then picks for 2014 and 2015 could be reinstated)
    —————————

    Glad you at least stopped short of sacrificing any first born children….

  36. jason1980 says: Mar 12, 2012 1:41 PM

    You brainf**ts with your suggested penalties should be fined for stupidity. The SAINTS RULE!!! And we scare y’all baddddddd, don’t we?

  37. darthsaint says: Mar 12, 2012 1:44 PM

    My username makes my team affiliation obvious. What I offer is an objective opinion from an NFL fan, not a Saints fan. Most responses I read here seem ridiculous. It’s clear to me people either get caught up in ANYTHING to an irrational level, or their bias towards the Saints creates some sort of reaction or wish that they are made “scapegoats”.

    I will first say, bounties are not a positive spin for the NFL. I agree they have to find a way to sweep them under the rug and make sure it doesn’t continue, at least publically. But don’t fool yourself, this is NOT a Saints problem, this is an NFL problem.

    For a moment, I ask that you think for yourself. It seems most are so used to taking whatever is fed to them within the media that they never take that information a step further to create their OWN opinions. Just listen to my argument, one NONE of your leading national sports writers seem to be making.

    Do you not find it strange that the NFL knew the Saints had a bounty system for months and all they did was ask them to stop? Some of you act like the Saints have committed the worst crime against humanity and should be punished as such. Yet the NFL knew what was going on, and didn’t punish them instantly, the NFL didn’t make public spectacle, they simply said stop it. Why do you think that is? Did the NFL feel like being nice? Maybe they were just being lazy and felt like procrastinating for a few months?

    Now, if you are thinking for yourself, and not just feeding off the sports media whose main goal is simply to find the next sensational story, make it last as long as possible, and then argue increases in their viewership justify ad pricing on their stations/sites. Why would the NFL simply ask the Saints to stop and do nothing more for months? I mean, if this was soooo bad, and the Saints were supposedly hurting so many players? Why would the NFL basically sit on its hands? I submit to you, it is because the NFL is fully aware of the issue; they know there are many teams within the NFL doing exactly the same thing, and they needed time to discuss how to handle the situation based on public perception. This is NOT the first time the NFL knows about “bounties”. Hell, the Giants admitted during their defensive half meeting of the NFC championship, they were going to target the 49ers punt returner Williams head. He had been hit hard the 1st half and seemed dazed from it. Their actions created TO’s for the Giants and changed the game. Is that ANY different than the Saints saying, Favre comes into this game with an injured ankle, we are going to target that area whenever possible to slow him down? I realize they are not one in the same. But my point is, strategically keying on your opponents injuries and using that to your advantage…is not a Saints tactic…it is a sports tactic and used every single day.

    My last point is in reference to those who act like the Saints were doing extreme actions to hurt people. If true, one could safely assume the Saints rank higher on penalties associated with illegal hits, facemasks, unsportsmanlike conduct, etc. Unfortunately for that argument, the Saints defense ranks below the NFL average on all the above. So if that is true, then they do what they do…within the rules of the game. LOCK THEM ALL UP!! =) Seriously, if these bounties are only $500 to a $1,000 normally, which is what has been reported. Yet the NFL fines you $10,000-$50,000 for illegal hits. What person makes “illegal” hits for a payout of $500…with they incur a very real risk of a $50,000 fine? NOBODY…that is who. Common sense once again tells you, these players were playing the game within the rules. Whether or not they have a pool of money associated with big hits or big plays, is somewhat irrelevant but highly unethical.

    Lastly, I offer an article from a writer who covers the Lions. To me, this is what the average fan should be thinking, if they thought for themselves without strong bias. It reads unlike what you get on most other news outlets. http://www.freep.com/article/20120311/COL08/203110558/Drew-Sharp-The-NFL-isn-t-safe-and-that-s-how-we-like-it

    Let me say I don’t condone the actions of the Saints front office for not heading the NFL warning. To me, that is simply stupid. I for one, am glad Greg Williams is off the team. But be careful fans of the NFL, throwing rocks out your glass house may not be the smartest idea. Don’t be naive enough to think this isn’t all over the NFL. Like I pointed out earlier…the NFL’s initial reaction, basically proves that point.

  38. scd7 says: Mar 12, 2012 2:00 PM

    Removing NO from hosting the 2013 SB will never happen IMO, and it shouldn’t honestly. First, even if they were to announce NO won’t be hosting the ’13 SB & announced a new host city tomorrow I have a hard time believing that city would be fully ready in time. That’s a lot of prework and planning to do in such a short time. And second, and more importantly IMO, is it’s not fair to the city itself. The shopkeepers, hotel owners, restaurants and such didn’t do anything wrong, they shouldn’t suffer for the Saint’s sins. And I’m sure many businesses have already started to prepare and have spent money getting ready, they should be the people to lose over this fiasco.

  39. batyuki says: Mar 12, 2012 3:51 PM

    jaygutta6559 says:

    @batyuki
    You (and sadly many Saints fans) are hurting every single rule of English speaking (or writing in that case…)

    More seriously, I’m no hater and I don’t think the Saints should be forfeited their SB win or anything, the bounty thing doesn’t make the players play better… It was a incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do though, and the Saints deserve the bashing they’ve been getting for the past few weeks. A point needs to be made that bounties are not ok, the Saints were probably not the only team to have that kind of system but they’re the ones who got caught and they’re gonna be made an exemple of. Period.

    Deal with it.

    Wow really your talking about us Saints fans and our grammar when you spelled example wrong and have the sentence structure of a 6 year old. You are obviously a Detroit Lions fan because it’s clear that you like to throw rocks in a glass house.

    —————————-

    Yeah well that was just a joke you don’t have to take it personally…
    I don’t see anything wrong with my sentences but that might be because English is not my mother tongue. But I still know the difference between your and you’re.
    And if you really need to know I’m a Panthers fan so I like to mess with the Saints fans sometimes but fortunately most of them have more humor than you do.

  40. farmmbig says: Mar 12, 2012 4:02 PM

    Alright– maybe let them keep next season’s super bowl…

    But I could see the Commissioner put some type of Ban in hosting the game— Like for 20 years?

  41. vtopa says: Mar 13, 2012 12:39 AM

    @Darthsaint: Very well said and argued. Amen.

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