Comments on: Report: Browns not pursuing Matt Flynn

By: hammondjd2

hammondjd2 — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:19:09 +0000

I don’t think it’s that the Browns don’t have an interest in Flynn, but they don’t have an interest at the price tag he is likely to carry (approx $50 mil). Yes, he looked amazing in the one record setting game last year, but he’s not that different on many levels than McCoy, arm strength, size, etc. And how much of that perofmance was related to how much of a well oiled machine the Packer’s offense is. He certainly didn’t play poorly and was well prepared, but plug him into the Browns last season and would he really look much better than McCoy. The answer is a definite “maybe.” Is that worth $50 million. Maybe not so much, when rookie salary limits make it considerably cheaper to take a risk with a draft pick, than a free agent. Does missong out on RG3 sting, yeah it does. Though I can’t say I’m disappointed the Browns didn’t give up the farm for one player. He looks really, really good and in hind sight he maybe another one that we let by, but talk about risk and pressure. We’ll all be watching the Redskins a little more closely for the next few years to see what might’ve been, though we’ll still never know for sure. Different teams, different outcomes. I think the trick at this point is to accept what has happened as recent history and figure out how to best adjust move on, without panicking and making a knee jerk reaction. Keeping in mind that the best option maybe playing with Colt another year, surrounding him more weapons and more pieces of the puzzle in place and then if we still need a new QB come this time next year, find a way to make it happen, MattBarkley or whomever that may be. Just saying the Browns lack of activity in free agency should not come as a surprise. If we ever reach that point that we’re 1 or 2 pieces away from the SB, then they’ll make the big splash FA acqisition, but until then it’ll just be low cost, low risk additions and primarily continuing to build through the draft. Boring, predictable, but also smart and sensible. And lastly, slow. Asking us Browns fans to be patient is laughable, but I think the current regime is doing it right and this time our patience will be rewarded before it all gets blown up again. Time will tell. I mean I really going to stop rooting for your Browns, you haven’t yet. So we’re kind of stuck anyway. Go Browns! They may be Clowns, but they’re my Clowns! My factory of sadness! I love ‘em. Live and die by ‘em.

By: noisrev

noisrev — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:02:59 +0000

The Browns are playing for a top draft pick in 2013 Draft! @OfficialBrowns… always looking ahead!

By: brownsfan39

brownsfan39 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:22:28 +0000

Brady Quinn is a free agent! Lol! Wouldn’t surprise me. It sucks being a lifelong Browns fan!

By: kosar92807

kosar92807 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:54:08 +0000

All this over 1 game?!? Really? The Browns should overspend on a guy who’s played 1 great game?
Let’s forget he started 1 season in college and completed 56% that year, hence the late round draft pick. There was a reason the national championship qb was taken in the 7th rd. I’d much rather have Colt, and I’m not all that crazy about him.
Howabout some actual offensive weapons to support #12? You know, give him a real chance before we dump him.

By: donjuan1906

donjuan1906 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:48:40 +0000

As a Browns fan, I am being sincere when I say all of this:

I have come to the conclusion that we are reaping the opposite end of winning, which is utter cellar dwellar infinite losing.

Paul Brown and THE STORIED CLEVELAND BROWNS under his watch, where the juggernaut high flying act of pro football from the 40′s, 50′s 60′s and now we are experiencing the duldrums, its Karma – plain and simple.

You can’t be the hot item forever or all the time.

But this is brutal and down right freakin’ depressing – the assault of injuries to the roster, the ultra conservative drafting for the last 4 years of Mangini and H & H, after the disasterous drafting under Clark, Davis and Savage.

When the freak will there ever be a happy medium!!!!!????? This building through the draft stuff is spot on, but gotdamn – you can’t rely on that totally in this day and age of the NFL, if you do – you are seriously looking at 5 to 7 years before the benefits will start to kick in? Hell its already been 12 years of bad football then add in 5 to 7 more years to that!?

In a football crazed town like Cleveland, 17 to 19 years to put a decent product in place, will start warranting death threats from the faithful!!!!

After the terrible season we just had, the onous was that the front office better have a sense of urgency and make something happen and right now – its like watching paint dry, while everyone else is working on building there guest homes!

C’mon – let’s get it together!

By: pftcensorssuck

pftcensorssuck — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:24:13 +0000

So the Browns believe that Colt McCoy is better than RG III, Matt Flynn, AND Peyton Manning, huh????

What are they seeing that 31 other teams and 50 million NFL fans are NOT?

By: coop16

coop16 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:25:56 +0000

@audient: I totally agree with everything you said in your post. I’m even considering accusing you of reading my mind.

By: fanofbrowns17

fanofbrowns17 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:15:04 +0000

Can’t fix everything with one offseason. Frustrating. I agree with the RG3 decision, hoping they do something to address at least rt position. Wait and see I guess, but it is year three for H&H and I want to see marked improvement.

By: gmen1987

gmen1987 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:04:19 +0000

Holmgrom is not ready to admit the drafting Colt McCoy was a mistake. His weak arm doesn’t fit well in Cleveland for November and December.

By: barnold1993

barnold1993 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:35:54 +0000

Browns are in trade talks with the Texas to acquire Ben Tate.

By: cannonballdookie

cannonballdookie — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:54 +0000

They need to do something. If I were a Browns fan, I think I’d throw in the towel if they head into the season with McCoy as their starter. Everything about him just screams career backup, not sure why it’s taking them so long to see it.

I do see them being in on Kolb if he gets cut though, but he’s not that good either.

By: kosarsmyidol

kosarsmyidol — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:32:38 +0000

As I see free agent after free agent get signed by other teams, I wonder whether the Browns are going to sign anyone other than their own free agents. Forget making a big splash; I’d be happy with a ripple at this point. They have too many needs to just build through the draft.

By: audient

audient — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:19:16 +0000

The fans in Cleveland are desperate for a winning team. However we get there, there will be naysayers until we have wins.

Is Flynn the answer? Is Kolb or Hasselbeck (if their teams sign Manning)? Do we surround Colt McCoy with real offensive weapons and see what he can do then?

I don’t profess to know the right answer, by H&H better figure it out. We’re restless and out of patience, and this is all just so difficult to watch — and we are all too used to watching bad stuff. And we are sick of it.

The Israelites had to wander lost too, but they got to the promised land after just 40 years. We’re coming up on 48 here in Cleveland.

By: stellarperformance

stellarperformance — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:16:36 +0000

He should get starter money in the range of the ranked starting QB’s from postion #20-#32….no more, no less. Enough with winning lottery money before accomplishing anything.

Signed: Unimpressed Packer fan.

By: pacodawg

pacodawg — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:14:34 +0000

My contention is that Heckert knows more about player evaluation than any of the posters, including myself. The truth is Mangini’s drafting set this team back for years. With selections of Massaqoui, Veikune, and Robiskie (all in the second round) it sets u back years. You have to give Heckert its only his third year buliding the core. U can’t do it over night.

By: clebrowntown

clebrowntown — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:12:32 +0000

Flynn is just too much a roll of the dice and I suspect that neither Tannehill or Weeden are the actual QB goal for the Browns. Heckert praised both WAY to much last week and that is totally out of character for him when FA or draft is happening.
I am hoping they do a blockbuster FA sign & trade to move up 3 spots or they actually do as they appear to be doing…grab McCoy some weapons and protection.

By: hikohadon

hikohadon — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:11:54 +0000

I must’ve missed the report that stated paying a career backup who has started 2 NFL games $10 million a year was a sure-fire path to success.

By: NoobTubeTV

NoobTubeTV — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:11:49 +0000

Unless Cleveland is intentionally acting disinterested to drive the price down.

By: brownsfandrinkingmakersmark

brownsfandrinkingmakersmark — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:03:30 +0000

Translation – the Browns reached out to Flynn’s representatives. Flynn said “no thanks” unless everything else falls through. Now it’s all spin.

As far as Barkley goes – if they’re drafting high enough next year to get Barkley, none of these guys will be here to get him.

By: ernie ernie

ernie ernie — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:02:36 +0000

I’m not surprised the Browns aren’t interested. I’m surprised to hear Miami may be? Philbin was going after Manning and if Miami is showing interest in Flynn it can only mean they know Manning ain’t going there.
I’m also surprised Seattle hasn’t made a big push for Flynn. Afterall they have Travaris.

By: kylemc1986

kylemc1986 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:00:26 +0000

The browns are pursuing the worste record in the league

By: rg3isthekidinthegoodburgermovie

rg3isthekidinthegoodburgermovie — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:59:58 +0000

First, 7 million for Jake Delhomme and signs Seneca Wallace. Then he drafted Colt McFrye and hired “training wheels” Pat Shurmer to be head coach. Mike Holmgren is a joke. Go away and let Heckert run the show himself.

By: theace18

theace18 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:59:30 +0000

Suddenly, Matt Flynn is the biggest winner of Free Agency.

By: joeinoh

joeinoh — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:59:05 +0000

Who is MF going to throw to? Where’s his running game going to come from? What about that porous offensive line? Will MF have a lock-out shortened adjustment to Shurmurs offense and game planning and in game calls? Come on, Colt regressed last year. It wasn’t Colts fault. MF will get the same results.

By: laxcoach37

laxcoach37 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:58:01 +0000

Flynn IS a good QB. The problem here is with all the FA hype he might have received crazy money.. With a limited market now his price is more Starter money and not Superstar money. Fins get their man, some new weapons on O, Winston (T), Nelson(SS) and for once not with a mortgaged future.

By: leeroyski

leeroyski — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:57:35 +0000

Seattle probably has lukewarm interest in Flynn. There is a GB connection thru John Schneider the Seahawks GM who was in GB when Flynn was drafted. I don’t think Seattle would get into a bidding war with Miami, but if he’s available for the right price…..

By: bingocostello

bingocostello — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:54:37 +0000

The Brownstains aren’t pursuing anyone because nobody right in the head would want to play there!

By: kelmcc

kelmcc — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:52:46 +0000

…. and this is why you don’t trot out re-treads to be your President/GM when you have a football club entrenched in a run of failure.

If he takes Tannehill at 4, he should be fired immediately.

By: rpiotr01

rpiotr01 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:52:19 +0000

Flynn and his agent are probably looking for too much money right now. I think Peter King is right. As much as it stinks, Flynn is probably better off signing a 2 year “show me” contract with a team where he will walk in as a starter. That may be a disappointment for him, but he still has lots to prove.

By: pmp300300

pmp300300 — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:51:38 +0000

Miami would be stupid not to sign Flynn. Surround McCoy with talent and they should already have a franchise QB.