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Vikings’ stadium effort still going nowhere

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Between Bountygate and the Peyton chase and free agency, it’s been nice to ignore the never-ending stadium quest in Minnesota.  (Coincidentally, an old PFT page linked last night addressed the team’s frustration with the political reluctance to build a new venue . . . 10 years ago.)

Now that things are slowing down a little bit, and in order to prove yet again that I have no life by working on a Saturday night, let’s consider the status of the effort.  Last we heard, there was reason for optimism.  The team, the Governor, legislative leaders, and the Mayor of Minneapolis had struck a deal for a new dome, right next to the current Metrodome.

Pending, of course, approval by the Legislature and the Minneapolis City Council.

As to the former, it’s not looking good.  The politicians are dragging their feet, and for good reason.  It’s an election year.  Every seat in the House and Senate will be up for grabs, and if the stadium deal is struck without a referendum on the use of public money, the election for every seat in the Legislature will serve as said referendum.  Also, the City Council doesn’t seem to be enthused about sealing the deal, regardless of whether a loophole can be engineered regarding a City Charter provision requiring a vote on any investment in a sports facility in excess of $10 million.

Why can’t the Vikings get this ball rolling, even with an expired lease?  It’s obvious.  The politicians don’t fear that the Vikings will leave.

So they should leave.

Before that, owner Zygi Wilf should hold a press conference announcing that the team will spend one more season in the Metrodome, and then the team will play as of 2013 in a stadium in the city and the state that wants the Vikings the most.

Wilf needs to say it, and he needs to mean it.  Otherwise, the folks in Minnesota will never wake up and get this done.

And if they don’t wake up and get this done in response to such a clear proposition, it’s never getting done.  At least the Vikings will know where they stand.

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  1. AlohaMrHand says: Mar 17, 2012 9:41 PM

    Go West Mr Wolf

  2. vikingsfan1994 says: Mar 17, 2012 9:41 PM

    At least all the bad things happening to the Vikings are happening to them at the same time. The stadium effort, the rebuilding, Petersons injury, etc… When its all over I think there will be a long patch of success.

  3. pcoisma says: Mar 17, 2012 9:43 PM

    Great news.
    Now as a Rams fan I am glad someone else has to put up with those LA people wanting a team again, again and again.

  4. 7ransponder says: Mar 17, 2012 9:44 PM

    For once I am in agreement with MF on the stadium situation and what needs to happen. Kurt Zellers is a spineless twit to dropping this thing on its head and then trying to blame others while sounding like it still has a chance.

    I’m not worried about the City Council, they can be won over – this same thing happened with Target Field and it can be overcome again. It’s Zellers and his crew of freshmen Koch-brother-bought crony house members who can’t make a clear cut decision on anything, holding this process up.

    Threatening to leave will be the only thing that shakes these cowards out of their loafers.

  5. rbell2123 says: Mar 17, 2012 9:48 PM

    Just move to L.A. already. Minneapolis has proved they don’t want or deserve an NFL team!

  6. raidersfreak says: Mar 17, 2012 9:50 PM

    This has been a Rollorcoaster ride for Vikings fans. Each day the stadium is either hot or cold.

    We were rejoicing with good news like yesterday and now Zellers can’t get his act together.

    From all fans around the NFL lets hope it works for the Fans and Vikings this is getting old.

  7. onlysane1intheroom says: Mar 17, 2012 9:51 PM

    I too, Mike, have no life as I keep checking PFT every 30 minutes for updates…on a Saturday night!

  8. adsbad28 says: Mar 17, 2012 9:52 PM

    The state of Minnesota is a joke. For sure the most screwed up state in the country. What a JOKE!!!!! Why don’t they let more bridges fall before they do anything!!! What a bunch of northern losers!!!!!

  9. firstandonlywarning says: Mar 17, 2012 9:52 PM

    Relocate the team, this has been a 15 year battle where every owner of the Vikes gets lied to yearly.

    After they build a stadium they can apply for an expansion team.

    Enough is Enough

  10. rgledz says: Mar 17, 2012 9:53 PM

    The politicians in the state of Minnesota are a bunch of gutless, worthless no counts. They are elected officials who are in place to make tough decisions for their constituents and all they can do is ignore this in the face of a referendum. Skirting their responsibility as an elected official to make tough decisions on behalf of the people who voted for them as well as for those that didn’t. They are a bunch of cowards who are more concerned about their political careers rather than what’s good for the state. They are blind to fact that this stadium will create thousands of construction jobs and hundreds of permanent jobs. They also can’t see what a great deal it is for the Vikings to pay almost half the cost of the stadium even though they will only use the venue 10-12 times a year. The rest of the time it is a fantastic venue for the state to profit from for any event they are able to book their. The gutless politicians will never be able to see these things of value because they are too busy working on their next campaign. It’s a sad state of affairs at the capital and the political leaders in the great state of Minnesota should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. Step up and do your job you cowards.

  11. jordanaires says: Mar 17, 2012 9:54 PM

    How much crap do the Vikes have to take? Past time to get the frak outta Dodge.

  12. early90smtv says: Mar 17, 2012 9:56 PM

    As a long time member 0f the Viking’s fanbase, a fanbase that has consistently been trotted along by miserly management, I can honestly say, if you want to move, MOVE. The NFL knows full well that our economy can support a franchise. If the Vikings move, the state will finally be able to rid themselves of a hopelessly incompetent lot. It’ll just be a matter of time till Jacksonville moves here, or we gain an expansion. All we ask is that you leave the Vikings name.

  13. raidersfreak says: Mar 17, 2012 9:56 PM

    pcoisma says: Mar 17, 2012 9:43 PM

    “Great news.
    Now as a Rams fan I am glad someone else has to put up with those LA people wanting a team again, again and again.”

    I would be careful for what you wish for because the EJD just got rejected and the Rams might want to leave as soon as 2015. You think the tax payers want to put more money into a stadium they still owe 153 million on in ST Louis?

    Time will tell but maybe if tax payers stop paying fir these billion dollar stadiums the NFL’s Billion dollar boy’s club maybe they might start footing the bill.

  14. nawlinssaints1956 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:01 PM

    Mike, as much as you would like to see the Saints taken to the woodshed on this “bounty thingy”, it simply won’t happen.

    The fines are limited to $500K per individual by the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.

    Suspensions are up to the Commish; most likely Gregg gets a year and Sean possibly 8 games at most.

    There will be draft picks lost. Because the Saints front office is so proficient in evaluating talent, losing top picks means they will continue to draft talent in the mid to late rounds.

    Nothing to see here folks; just move on…

  15. sb45champs says: Mar 17, 2012 10:03 PM

    That’s because it’s the Vikings….Pack em up and ship em to LA…..Who cares?

  16. reverend5150 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:04 PM

    and we’re surprised that something in the hands of politicians is going nowhere? Have you ever been to a meeting that still operates under Robert’s Rules of Order…..sigh.

    Get it done….I like when the Bears get to beat on these guys twice a year

  17. dumptrucked says: Mar 17, 2012 10:05 PM

    As a diehard Vikes fan, I am in agreement Wilf needs to stop playing nice. He needs to threaten now with a press conference, and then apply for relocation once that period opens again late this year. if I were him I would also say that ever month that passes without a deal, team contributions will drop 50 million. He is a great owner, and to his credit has been patient and non threatening, but now he needs to get nasty.

  18. racksie says: Mar 17, 2012 10:06 PM

    My feelings on this are simple: If this is such a great idea, Zigi should just go Kraft on this, and spend all his own money, own everything, and take all the money. I still hate Drew Pearson for breaking my 10 year old heart by cheating. I love the Vikings. But I have no interest in funding a hundred millionaire so he can make hundreds of millions more. Zigi could make deals to fund it himself, IF HE WANTED TO. He doesn’t. IF the VIkings leave, I will be sad, but the way the owners are jacking us around, it’s not that big of a deal. And if the Vikings leave, we may get more done on Sunday’s.

  19. pcoisma says: Mar 17, 2012 10:07 PM

    raidersfreak says: Mar 17, 2012 9:56 PM

    It was the first offer that was rejected. They are always ridiculously low. Now we wait for the Rams to make a equally moronic counter offer in June I believe. Then negotiations really begin. Nothing to worry about for at least a year minimum. At least the CVC doesn’t make promises then plays politics with it. That is why the CVC was created to shield politicians from themselves IMHO.

  20. jacks40 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:08 PM

    If the people of Minnesota don’t want to pay for a stadium why should Minn. politiciAns be looking for loopholes?

  21. upyoursnfu says: Mar 17, 2012 10:12 PM

    South London Vikings

  22. theravenlives2 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:13 PM

    I’ll say it again (and I live in Baltimore and I know what I’m talking about when it comes to Football teams moving):

    If the Vikings move, The fans will cry and the politicians will blame each other, Wilf, and the NFL. The community will rally, and the new stadium will be built to lure a new team. This will all cost billions of dollars.

    OR

    You can take the Vikings offer, get it done now and let the team pay for HALF the stadium. I can tell you that if Baltimore had been offered that deal in 1984, we’d have taken it in a minute.

    Come on guys, this is a no-brainer. Don’t wait to do what you’re gonna end up doing in the end anyway (at a much greater cost). I hate to say it, but if Minnesota loves the Vikings, they deserve to!

  23. lbpackfan says: Mar 17, 2012 10:14 PM

    Lets all wait and hear what contra has to say about this…

  24. theravenlives2 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:16 PM

    Oops…I meant if Minnesota loses the Vikings, they deserve to.

  25. ascensionparish says: Mar 17, 2012 10:30 PM

    Minnesotans are too busy whining about the Saints to pay attention to such issues as a new stadium.

  26. squared80 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:33 PM

    “Just move to L.A. already. Minneapolis has proved they don’t want or deserve an NFL team!”

    Oh, is that why they are more popular than the Twins, Wild, and T’Wolves combined in Minnesota. And is that way they have soldout every game since 1997… in the worst stadium in the country?

    Moron.

  27. tmb333 says: Mar 17, 2012 10:38 PM

    The owner should build his own stadium with his own cash. If it was a great investment, he would have already done it. It is a loser for the taxpayers. If the folks in Minn are stupid enough to pay for it, they should ban blackouts as part of the deal. Why should you have to buy a ticket if you have to pay for the stadium? If one legislature – most are normally on the take and get free tickets – would look out for the taxpayer and put this verbage in any stadium deal that accepts any taxpayer funding or tax breaks, it would slow this crap down.

    On another note, every NFL player is overpaid. If the NFL operated like most businesses and had to build their own infrastructure, there would be as much cash to pay the players. Who really knows Mannings market value when the market is so tainted?

  28. Robert Chandler says: Mar 17, 2012 10:41 PM

    The Vikings will be leaving Minnesota. As a fan for the past 42 years, I have come to the conclusion they are good as gone now. The lack of any Free Agent aggression is the latest sign that he ownership already knows they are heading out. The state doesn’t seem to realize how much they stand to lose, but if they don;t realize it after 10-15 years of debate over the stadium issue, they never will.

    I am convinced the Wilfs have already made arrangements of a verbal nature, at least, to relocate the team or (more likely) sell the franchise outright. Can’t everyone else see the handwriting on the wall? And, even though I have been intensely loyal for more than four decades, I honestly cannot blame the owners for turning their backs on Minnesota. Where the Vikings will go is the main question now. Mexico City? Toronto? Los Angeles? Vancouver? I have no idea, although my gut says Vancouver or Toronto are more likely than the other potential sites.

    What a shame. If the economy had not gone into the dumper for this long a period, the story may have had a better ending. But, I for one, believe we are headed for a double-dip recession or even a depression – so, things will only get worse in certain parts of the country. Minnesota is not going to get fiscally healthy for a long time, so this is inevitable.

    It really is not the fault of any one group or individual. It is another sad casualty of the widespread collapse of the US economy. The Wilfs could get creative and find more personal ways of funding, but at this point, why do that in the state that seems Hell-bent on bidding them goodbye. Just turn out the lights on your way out, team. It was fun (and heartbreaking) while it lasted.

  29. scottpavek says: Mar 17, 2012 10:43 PM

    As a Vikings fan willing to root for the team AFTER the move (I am the 1%), let the team go to Los Angeles. More appealing destination for free agents, better market, the chance to compete in the NFC Worst… I love it. The Rams can go to the NFC North.

  30. thatswhatimsayin says: Mar 17, 2012 10:56 PM

    Vikequeens, vikequeefs, vikequeers, lavender larrys, bla bla bla
    Sorry GB4MN0 i just stole all your material, what you got now?

  31. trapshoot says: Mar 17, 2012 11:00 PM

    Time for Al Franken to ride to the rescue?

  32. robotrav says: Mar 17, 2012 11:01 PM

    We here in Minnesota don’t wish to have taxpayer money spent for the benefit of a sports team owner. If there was value in a stadium, the owner would build it without public funding.

    I’m sick of politicians trying to shove something past the public when the public is clearly telling them what is desired. I’m sick of politicians and know-it-all fans thinking they better know what the public wants than the public itself.

    And please stop with the economic nonsense; the data does not support the rhetoric. A football stadium used ten times a year plus two more times at most for the playoffs does not provide for sufficient year-round employment to justify the cost. Other events at the stadium will not make up the difference. If this were true stadiums would be as numerous as dandelions on my Minnesota lawn on a summer day.

  33. mrvikingsfan11 says: Mar 17, 2012 11:07 PM

    Adsbad28: Eat it, you have no clue. About anything, my guess is that you have only a few teeth in your mouth, so I will be nice to you, please return the stolen goods you used to write your post.

  34. gmsalpha says: Mar 17, 2012 11:10 PM

    Zigi absolutely needs to threaten to move, and start filing paperwork to do so. This upcoming season should be the last one without any concrete deal in place, and the legislature needs to know it and be held accountable if nothing gets done and the team skips town.

    This is complete nonsense the way things are going. Build a new stadium or move.

    That goes for all teams in all sports with crappy stadiums, ESPECIALLY ones with domes.

    The KingDome, HoosierDome, SilverDome, AstroDome, and AlamoDome have all either been destroyed, or at the very least had their teams move, and for good reason.

    The SkyDome, Tropicana Field, MetroDome, and Edward Jones Dome need to be torn down or renovated if they want to keep their current teams.

    The only one I can think of that bucks the trend is the SuperDome, and that’s only because Katrina came through and forced the repairs and upgrades. It’s a fugly building though, in my opinion.

    The point is that domes are horrible and the history shows that cities and teams strongly prefer not to play in them. The same goes for Minnesota, so if they’re not going to build something to replace the HHHMD, then please leave.

  35. aussie61 says: Mar 17, 2012 11:10 PM

    Mike,I’m lucky,I live in Australia so don’t need to stay up Saturday night,just read everything Sunday morning :) As a Vikes fan though you are 100% right.C’mon Zygi, it’s time to take a more aggresive approach and find out where people stand.Actions speak louder than words,and a total lack of action speaks volumes.

  36. hateonjags says: Mar 17, 2012 11:15 PM

    Stadium not going anywhere,but vikes are,LA bound

  37. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Mar 17, 2012 11:15 PM

    How’s your stadium coming?

  38. narlo00 says: Mar 17, 2012 11:20 PM

    Living in ND, I’m a huge Viking fan, but I’m also a laker fan. Look how well that turned out for them with the move to LA. One of the positives of being there is the big lights. It’d be a lot easier to attract free agents. In my opinion, the NFL doesn’t want a team in LA. They’re the second biggest market and moving a team out there that can’t win many games, let alone a championship, might affect the markets ratings. Just a thought though.

  39. contra74 says: Mar 17, 2012 11:28 PM

    lbpackfan says:
    Mar 17, 2012 10:14 PM
    Lets all wait and hear what contra has to say about this…

     2 0 
    ———-
    Thanks for knowing your role and giving me the floor.

    I agree. Threaten these weak politicians and, if need be, leave.

    I’m tired on an elected few preventing the masses from having a team because they are worried about not being elected again.

  40. letmetellyouhowitreallyis says: Mar 18, 2012 12:02 AM

    For once I have to say that I agree with Mr. Mike here. The threat of moving has never been there & w/out that small market teams have issues like this when residents look at the stadium & cant see past the oooohs & ahhhhhs of the NFL experience . Look around the stadium . ITS A DUMP !!! There is a reason why the twinkies threatened to leave & the U of M got out of there. Cant wait till you guys mess it up so bad that they do leave. What will you build there on the dome site then ??? Luxury condos !!! 5 million a piece. No 2 million a piece…. Nope, no one can afford any of that. So Fans get ready . You bring your cameras . Take lots of pictures. Videos would be better to show your grandkids 10-15 years from now that you DID have a team once. The politians will be blamed & you , a supposed fan will have sat back & done nothing. Nothing but complain about how your team never won anything , but could never really be competitive. Glad I do not live there anymore. But, still proud to be a true fan.

  41. briang123 says: Mar 18, 2012 12:06 AM

    The Republicand are trying to force the Vikings to move so they can blame the Democrats. All Republicand want to do is woo oil barrons at games.

  42. lbpackfan says: Mar 18, 2012 12:08 AM

    Contra -

    You rule.

  43. i10east says: Mar 18, 2012 12:15 AM

    Aren’t the Vikes supposed to move to Guadalajara???

  44. NFL In L.A. says: Mar 18, 2012 12:16 AM

    Oh, is that why they are more popular than the Twins, Wild, and T’Wolves combined in Minnesota. And is that way they have soldout every game since 1997… in the worst stadium in the country?

    lol

    1. The Vikings dont sell out every game.

    2. The Teletubbies are more popular than the Wolves or the Wild.

    3. Go back to bed.

  45. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 18, 2012 12:21 AM

    politicians at fault? no. this is the fault of a long history of billionaire sports owners getting free money from the tax payers. the politicians are finally saying no.

    float bonds for pete sake, mr. wilf! that’s what any other corporation does when they want to expand. you can take off about $200 million of the total cost you have if you build a stadium without a roof. you don’t need the roof.

    but you can’t blame him. the twins got a free ride, and so have dozens of other sports owners, so he wants in on the money train as well.

    if you give tax payer dollars to billionaire sports owners, (and by the way, THEY keep the revenues while charging the tax payer $8 a hot dog, $9 a beer, and $100+ a ticket) how is this country going to get its federal and state spending under control?

    Mr. Wilf: get the money yourself. you became a billionaire through investments, so how about you start offering some of your own instead of getting a 50% off coupon from the state of MN courtesy of The Fan?

  46. sbad1985 says: Mar 18, 2012 12:25 AM

    The State doesn’t value having an NFL team. Clearly. The team needs to move to a State that will 100% want AND SUPPORT an NFL franchise. And the NFL needs to remember this failure if a team would ever consider moving to Minny in the future. Let them have an arena team or something like that. They are too cheap to ever support a real NFL team.

  47. prplpuzzetrz says: Mar 18, 2012 12:27 AM

    ReAding the majority of the comments on here. It really is baffling how pathetic our football community is. So many negative comments about Minnesota , and the franchise. This is one of the staples of the nfl. Calling Minnesotans names? Losers, etc? This is one of the most solid, economically sound and educated states in the country. There is a reason why this won’t just slide through. The people in Minnesota are to smart to allow this to get steamrolled through!
    In the end, it will get done! The Vikings won’t leave, but it will have benefits to both the Fambase and community alike!
    Skol, and to those trailer park , ignorant idiots that hide behind their 150 words or less? Drown yourself , you know who u are

  48. peoplesrepublic0fdabayarea says: Mar 18, 2012 12:30 AM

    vikings change to los angeles laker colors

  49. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 18, 2012 12:33 AM

    democrats constantly gripe about the rich getting richer, and all the tax breaks, big oil companies, middle class shrinking, and yada yada yada.

    but democrats are MORE than willing to have tax payers foot the bill of a billionaires personal playground?

    i cry foul, sirs! since this is an nbc site, i assume a large liberal crowd, especially the author. you cry about corporate jet owners, but are you willing to pay for atleast half of their jet? no. and you don’t pay for their jets. the billionaire does. you would cry to obama til the cows came home if an oil company made you (tax payer money) pay for their jet. as you should. but when it comes to much more expensive stadia, you bend over to the billionaire? you can’t have it both ways.

    so stop with this BS about the republicans holding the situation hostage.

  50. johnnyb216 says: Mar 18, 2012 12:35 AM

    Never stop posting blogs like this.

  51. dtrb10 says: Mar 18, 2012 12:40 AM

    Cowards! MN politics are such a joke. Zellers won’t vote or show his or the republicans in general won’t show cards COWARDS! Trying to keep their jobs in an election year.

  52. r2dtox says: Mar 18, 2012 12:44 AM

    adsbad28

    Nice moniker. You’re an angry little man, aren’t you.

  53. sepnasty says: Mar 18, 2012 1:07 AM

    contra74 says: Mar 17, 2012 11:28 PM

    I agree. Threaten these weak politicians and, if need be, leave.

    I’m tired on an elected few preventing the masses from having a team because they are worried about not being elected again.

    _

    As a Packer fan, I couldn’t agree more! Hit the nail on the head. It’s a shame those few are going to cost the entire state it’s football team, regardless of how much I hate the Vikes, they belong in the NFC North.

  54. gb4mn0 says: Mar 18, 2012 1:25 AM

    contra74 says:
    Mar 17, 2012 11:28 PM
    lbpackfan says:
    Mar 17, 2012 10:14 PM
    Lets all wait and hear what contra has to say about this…

    2 0
    ———-
    Thanks for knowing your role and giving me the floor.

    I agree. Threaten these weak politicians and, if need be, leave.

    I’m tired on an elected few preventing the masses from having a team because they are worried about not being elected again.

    ———————————————-

    If you had a modicum of the acumen you think you possess you’d realize the politicians opposing the stadium know the majority of the voting electorate are also in opposition to it. They feel threatened more by a failing budget due to lack of tax revenues and the effect that will have on their reelection then the lightweight blustering rants of you dullards found on this web-site.

    By the way, your arrogance is indefensible. Stop posing!

  55. contra74 says: Mar 18, 2012 1:33 AM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    Mar 17, 2012 11:15 PM
    How’s your stadium coming?
    ——
    How was winning the SB this year?

  56. vikingsgohard says: Mar 18, 2012 1:35 AM

    if you think things are bad in minny now …just wait til the vikes leave ….and there will be no exspansion filing for a new team …the minny market is already too small… compared to other teams …the NFL wants to keep them there because of the tradition and enamored rivalry of the NFC north …when /if they leave especially if pushed out by the state itself for the lack of a new venue its a wrap!!.. also to all those that dont believe the just one super bowl in a new minny stadium wouldn’t bring millions to the state in one weekend is on drugs!!.. please go look up how much revenue was made in Indy this year …not to mention a finally four etc… I personally think its sad that the vikes have been patient while these other sports team get there’s and the state then wants to dick them around now that it should be their time…..serves the state right ..they will get everything they deserve ..im done wit the rant

  57. puntonfirstdown says: Mar 18, 2012 1:47 AM

    o-51 in Minnesota. Time for a change of scenery.

  58. jc327 says: Mar 18, 2012 2:01 AM

    And Los Angeles steals yet another purple and gold team from Minneapolis…

  59. lexnekst says: Mar 18, 2012 2:53 AM

    That’s because its good to have a team, before you worry about a stadium.

  60. mj5150 says: Mar 18, 2012 3:11 AM

    briang123 says:
    Mar 18, 2012 12:06 AM
    The Republicand are trying to force the Vikings to move so they can blame the Democrats. All Republicand want to do is woo oil barrons at games
    ————————————————–
    What the H*LL is a Republicand???? LOL

  61. wafflestomp says: Mar 18, 2012 3:19 AM

    LMFAO…….Typical!

  62. dumplingsrbrown says: Mar 18, 2012 5:43 AM

    This is just outright embarrassing.

  63. worldwidebleater says: Mar 18, 2012 6:46 AM

    The Vikings’ new stadium is starting to sound like that novel I’m going to write.

  64. 1historian says: Mar 18, 2012 7:41 AM

    briang123 – work on your spelling

    If you live in Minnesota (I don’t but I have been there and it is a beautiful place) and you don’t care about pro football and you have told your elected reps. that you DON’T want a new stadium and furthermore you VOTE – Why should your elected rep. listen to dudley dingbat from out of state and not you? Politicians are not genii (plural of genius) but they are not THAT dumb.

    If you have supported the team since their inception and can remember when they played outside and then when they built their present stadium you almost got priced out of your tickets but managed to hold on and you know that this time you won’t be able to afford tickets – why would you want to build a new stadium?

    If they want to go – go. LEAVE THE NAME AND THE COLORS and in a few years you can put up a new stadium.

    BTW – I live in New England and my Patriots play in a privately financed stadium. Come Sundays this fall you will find my fat ass sitting in an easy chair with chips & brewskis close by.

    Remember one thing – this is a BUSINESS. The owners don’t care about you at all.

  65. duluthvikesfan says: Mar 18, 2012 7:49 AM

    Minnesota has a democrat for a governor. The republicans hold the majority in the house & senate. They think by stonewalling on this issue in an election year they will look good and keep that majority. This tactic might work but the people of Minnesota are good football fans who want the team to stay. If the Vikes leave this will backfire on the republicans in this state big time! The people will hold them, not the governor who has worked hard to get the stadium deal done, accountable. I’m a republican myself and I find the games they are playing in this state disgusting. Ultimately, this issue will get pushed back until after this fall. By then Ziggy will have made his threat to leave and the elections will be over so it will no longer be an election year issue. My guess is that Ziggy and all the politicians in this state are aware that this is how it will play out and in the end we will have a new stadium.

  66. camocav213 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:08 AM

    GO TO A DIFFERENT CITY (WITH LESS SNOW)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. wildbill1984 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:23 AM

    Wow common sense pretty much explains why this isn’t moving forward. For one football teams play 8 home 10 home games a year including preseason maybe 2 more with hone field advantage in the playoffs. Now the that is very little room for revenue to be recovered for funding this compared to hockey, baseball and basketball. There ate multiple large venues in the twin cities for special events that this stadium wouldn’t really provide something that can’t already be done somewhere else. Also I believe a big part of the delay us the product that the Vikings offer, as of right now they arent really building hope amongst fans that they are going to be worth going to see at full ticket price. Now just because a team “sells out” doesn’t mean they sold every ticket at face value. A lit of time television and radio networks buy up tickets to avoid blackouts. The season before the Brett favre era started 25 dollar tickets were being sold for 9 dollars through ticket brokers. So all this comes back to is why would the government want to jump at spending hundreds of millions of dollars when there is such a risk of getting that back meanwhile mr wolf can get richer and try to sell a walmart product at bloomingdales prices.

  68. theravenlives2 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:33 AM

    We here in Minnesota don’t wish to have taxpayer money spent for the benefit of a sports team owner. If there was value in a stadium, the owner would build it without public funding.

    ==================================

    Hey, that’s cool. You have a perfect right to feel that way. Just don’t bitch and complain about how Minnesota was “screwed” by the Wilfs and the NFL after the team left. I think anyone who has watched this for a prolonged period of time would conclude that the offer to pay for half the stadium was a reasonable one, when compared to other stadium deals.

    Oh, and lemme ask all of you who think the Vikings should build their own stadium a question: If you’re a billionaire and you own a team and some other city is willing to build you a stadium for free, would you stay where you are and pay for your own stadium? I thought so…

  69. racksie says: Mar 18, 2012 9:41 AM

    It’s so simple, people can’t see the forest for the trees: If Zygi builds it we will come.

    There is no reason for the people of Minnesota to pay for this. Zygi thinks he owns the state. He owns the team. Build your own stadium to make your money. Very simple.

  70. jrspike says: Mar 18, 2012 9:48 AM

    move, load them up and to California, here we come.
    Then where those poor Rams go, MSP?

  71. dd564 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:55 AM

    If the Vikings leave, I just hope they take Spielman with them.

    It would suck to lose them

    What people don’t understand nationally however is that this is completely not the fans fault. There are enough fans in favor of the stadium, however being as culturally diverse as it is, often Mpls / MN caters to arts and wildlife prior to professional sports franchises.

    Fans are sick and tired of being sick and tired of this debate that many real fans are so tired of hearing about it, they just wish the team would move to end it alll and they’ll be fans from afar.

  72. sbad1985 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:01 AM

    If the people in Minny don’t feel like supporting an NFL team like this – that is their right. Let the team go to a State that will treasure having an NFL team AND support it with a great stadium.

    This isn’t an indictment of Minny. Just a “reality check” in that they don’t seem to value football there. I would hope that the NFL would “remember” this in the future and not let another franchise move there in the future. It just wouldn’t work there.

  73. mas151 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:39 AM

    Hurry up and move so I can all the Packers games on TV in Minneapolis.

  74. dumplingsrbrown says: Mar 18, 2012 11:42 AM

    If Zygi was going to pay for the stadium himself, couldn’t he pretty much build it anywhere as long as he had enough owners votes? If that’s the case then the Vikings would definitely leave to a larger market.

    Minnesota will not get a stadium or have an NFL team without some public funding.

  75. camlwalk says: Mar 18, 2012 11:43 AM

    Vikings owner Zygi Wilf is worth a reported $1.3 billion. Buy your own f*cking stadium!

  76. adsbad28 says: Mar 18, 2012 11:54 AM

    @r2dtox &mrvikingfan11 (real original) u two r just upset because u know I speak the truth. your guys state is for sure the most worthless in the country. I’m a season ticket holder for the vikes for the past 5 years and everytime my brother and I come up to that worthless state we see the same thing a pathetic fanbase, worthless leaders, and imbread tards. what other state u know lets bridges fall, state government shut down, and now a a possability of a storied franchise moving before doing anything? Only in the worthless state of Minnesoooota (u tards can’t even talk right) u guys should should just leave the union and be Canadian. u guys up there r losers and don’t deserve a football team.

  77. contra74 says: Mar 18, 2012 12:50 PM

    adsbad28 says:
    Mar 18, 2012 11:54 AM
    @r2dtox &mrvikingfan11 (real original) u two r just upset because u know I speak the truth. your guys state is for sure the most worthless in the country. I’m a season ticket holder for the vikes for the past 5 years and everytime my brother and I come up to that worthless state we see the same thing a pathetic fanbase, worthless leaders, and imbread tards. what other state u know lets bridges fall, state government shut down, and now a a possability of a storied franchise moving before doing anything? Only in the worthless state of Minnesoooota (u tards can’t even talk right) u guys should should just leave the union and be Canadian. u guys up there r losers and don’t deserve a football team.
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    And yet, after listing all your “reasons”, you STILL bought into that environment by purchasing season tickets?

  78. sbad1985 says: Mar 18, 2012 1:23 PM

    Minnesota is a great state IMHO that is having hard times (I live in Illinois, and we’re broke too). It makes for some hard choices that stink. But I do believe an NFL franchise and stadium can make good fiscal sense if the government and private owners work together.

    I’m a Bears fan (yeah, we have our own issues), but when I go to a game it’s in a stadium owned by the City. The downtown area of Chicago gets a huge financial boost from the NFL. The City also uses that stadium throughout the year for other money-making ventures. It’s not perfect for football, but it does work out for everyone.

    Minny needs to work this out for the Vikes. There IS a way for this to meet the needs of the Vikes AND make sound fiscal sense for government entities investment too. That is win/win for everyone.

  79. adsbad28 says: Mar 18, 2012 1:24 PM

    @contra74 I’m a Minnesota Viking fan not a fan of the worthless state of Minnesota. Big difference moron!!!!

  80. adsbad28 says: Mar 18, 2012 1:36 PM

    @contra74 People like u r exactly what I’m talking about u don’t seem to care if they leave or not by what u said in your earlier post. The people of Minnesota (you) r the most pathetic fans in the NFL u guys up there don’t support the team. bunch of LOSERS!!! U don’t deserve to ha e a team u fair weathered piece of crap!!!!

  81. pharvinisback says: Mar 18, 2012 2:34 PM

    @ adsbad,,,,,Congrats! It takes a fool or your ignorance level to bring back the Sleeping Giant,,,bash MN based Viking fans at your own risk ,,,I’m watching you

  82. adsbad28 says: Mar 18, 2012 3:03 PM

    @pharvinisback u r the imbread type of minnesotian I am talking about. Not bashing the team just u losers up there in the worthless state of Minnesota. what do ya expect out of a state that elects people like Al Franken. LOSERS!!!!!!

  83. adsbad28 says: Mar 18, 2012 3:05 PM

    @percyharinisback. And I’m looking for u!!!! I bet ya I won’t see ya at any games cause u don’t support your team like every other loser up there.

  84. pharvinisback says: Mar 18, 2012 3:07 PM

    @adsbad28,,,,,,imbread ??? Game. Set. Match. You lose Reading is Fundamental poster boy,,,

  85. brewdogg says: Mar 18, 2012 11:58 PM

    @gb4mn0 and so many others….

    Two facts are either escaping you or are being willfully ignored.

    1) As long as some city/state is willing to pay for a stadium in a location that the owner would expect to receive a similar amount or revenue, this issue will never go away. Kudos to the Krafts and Joneses out there who build on their own dime (although one could argue that relocation from these areas would not yield the same revenue), but if an owner chooses not to do that, he will make the best business decision, which will be to locate his business in the place where it costs him the least to operate from.

    2) If the Vikings leave Minnesota, there will still be less tax revenue. Various reports that have surfaced over the last couple of years put that number somewhere between $17m and $30m annually. Let’s half that and round down, and take an extra mil off for good measure, and call it $22m. that is $660m over the next 30 years. In a situation like this, the MINIMUM that a state should be willing to put up should be at least 3/4 of the amount that is directly paid to the state from the vikings organization, its players, and non-resident employees (those who would not remain in the state if the Vikings were to relocate). This seems to be simple logic to me….. If I can pay $15 for a steak dinner that the cook will give me $20 for eating, I eat the steak. Not eating it means I get no steak and no $20, and that just doesn’t make sense….

  86. iluvbears says: Mar 19, 2012 1:27 PM

    camocav213 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:08 AM

    GO TO A DIFFERENT CITY (WITH LESS SNOW)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I’m pretty sure Minneapolis had less snow than most cities in the country this winter. What’s your point?

  87. realtruth1 says: Mar 20, 2012 1:35 AM

    Great news.

    Now as a Rams fan I am glad someone else has to put up with those LA people wanting a team again, again and again.

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    You mean, just like the St Louis people wanted a team again and again…?

    And before you yap about teams moving to LA, you do know that St Louis has poached both its NFL teams from other cities?

    Cards=Chicago
    Rams=LA

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