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Alex Smith, Dolphins are negotiating

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Instead of waiting for the Peyton chase to knock a starting quarterback to the curb, the Dolphins have decided to make a pre-emptive strike, actively pursuing Alex Smith, who led the 49ers to a 14-3 record in 2011.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that the Dolphins are negotiating with Smith, and that Smith could get a deal in the range of $8 million per year.

Of course, Smith already has on the table a three-year, $24 million offer from the 49ers, which if my math is correct (and rarely it is), that’s an average of $8 million.

Klis speculates that, if the Niners miss out on Peyton Manning, they could target Matthew Hasselbeck, whom many (me included) believe the 49ers should have signed in 2011.

Of course, Hasselbeck may not be available if the Titans don’t land Manning.

If that happens, don’t be surprised if Colin Kaepernick is the starting quarterback in San Francisco come September.

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  1. zo121179 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:47 PM

    Good to bad to worse if this happens.

    Too many pieces of the puzzle are pointing to PM landing in SF. This is the only news that makes sense.

  2. discosucs2005 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:48 PM

    I just want to know!

  3. thehighhat says: Mar 18, 2012 8:48 PM

    Wow, and I just mocked Seattle for signing 2 Wynn Flynn… This is downright ridiculous!

    Miami: the new Lions!!!

  4. We'reFineThere says: Mar 18, 2012 8:48 PM

    8 million a year? Luckiest man alive.

  5. rodge1 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:49 PM

    Played well under good coaching. Would be a solid signing.

  6. ar1888 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:49 PM

    This smells of the Daunte Culpepper desperation signing.

  7. sdisme says: Mar 18, 2012 8:49 PM

    What agent is Smith using? Hopefully not Condon.

  8. goldrush36 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:50 PM

    Silly silly move Alex. enjoy disappearing into the abyss once again. No Vernon Davis or tailored offense for you there. Wait who are Miami’s WR’s and TE’s?

  9. faderwader says: Mar 18, 2012 8:50 PM

    I know his record was good last year, but $8 mill good? He is a game manager and I’m not sure that Miami doesn’t need more than that. With that said, I hope this works out and Peyton chooses the Titans….. Colin K as the starter would look great on the greedy Mr. Harbaugh!!!!

  10. ajpurp says: Mar 18, 2012 8:50 PM

    What pieces of the puzzle besides SF having talent?

  11. obamablowz says: Mar 18, 2012 8:50 PM

    Alex Smith Sucks!!!!! He had a decent year on a team with a GREAT defense. Let him go.

  12. jfodagreat says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    Time to cut the cord. Thank you Smith for the Conference game & taking a grip of money from the Yorks. Enjoy ur short stay in Miami without any real weapons it wont last. Your chance at a superbowl just went 2 the dumps. There is no guarantee that Manning is a lock to sign with the niners but if u are that booty hurt go head try 2 screw the niners over. You had your chance to sign that contract & u didnt . #ManningOrBust

  13. Spencer says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    Good. He should get a new agent while he’s at it.

  14. illinininer says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    49ers pursued Hasselback last year. He chose the Titans because they had the better offensive line.

  15. mike032496 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    49ers are so stupid. If they don’t land Manning and Smith…back to the bottom of the west. Oh well. GO EAGLES!

  16. trbowman says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    I would argue he’s not even an upgrade on Matt Moore.

    Speaking of which, you have to be smiling if you’re Matt Moore right now. No Peyton, no Flynn….

  17. 44mpo says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    I just don’t see Smith as all that deserving. He had a good year last year (1 for what,5 ) but in many instances I think the team won in spite of him, not because of him. I just don’t see him taking anyone to the big dance.

  18. jwil444 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:51 PM

    Dolphins looking to stick it to Harbaugh and the niners- if they aren’t careful the niners will have tebow as their qb.

  19. sledgehorn says: Mar 18, 2012 8:52 PM

    This QB carousel really could end up hitting the 49ers hard…

    Flynn to Seahawks.
    Smith to Dolphins.
    Manning to Broncos.
    Leaving what, Tebow or Garrard for the 49ers…?

    … They would be better off calling in Favre at that point.

  20. oaktown49er says: Mar 18, 2012 8:52 PM

    If Smith lands in Miami, good luck to him. He is a class act. As a QB he leaves a lot to be desired but the guy is a great leader and teammate.

  21. petedutcher says: Mar 18, 2012 8:52 PM

    They should sign Josh Johnson. He’s perfect for their offense.

  22. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Mar 18, 2012 8:52 PM

    Only the Niners can turn chicken salad into chicken chit.

  23. pacodawg says: Mar 18, 2012 8:52 PM

    I would reather have Moore.

  24. trbowman says: Mar 18, 2012 8:52 PM

    If the 9ers miss Smith and Manning, don’t forget or rule out Josh Johnson being the guy in September.

  25. redandgoldeverything says: Mar 18, 2012 8:53 PM

    Fine by me. Worse things could happen. Thanks for the run smitty, best wishes. Welcome to the stick 18 ( or Hass, or welcome to the show Kap).

  26. brooklynniner19 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:53 PM

    I wanna know how the hell is a report from the ” DENVER POST” is reporting this? lol

    Anyways Ive been riding with Smith since 05 and I feel bad things ended like this with him and the organization ! =/ If the 49ers don’t get Manning, the front office and HC Jim Harbaugh will look like the bad guys!

  27. onenonly786 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:53 PM

    Lolll now if Alex Smith signs w/Miami and Peyton Manning picks either DEN/Tenn, then SanFran will have no QB. Choices: Tim Tebow or Matt Hassellback. Decisions lol

  28. bigbluenationdb says: Mar 18, 2012 8:53 PM

    Probably the best thing for san Fran. He was never going to lead them to the super bowl. The 49ers were able to win a lot of games and he was a liability to the offense.
    I doubt peyton lands in san Fran either. Tennessee is going to be home to him.

  29. joemontanawasthegreatest says: Mar 18, 2012 8:54 PM

    Dolphins need to draft someone clearly, don’t panic Ireland.

  30. bearsrulepackdrool says: Mar 18, 2012 8:54 PM

    Wow if Manning goes to Denver this could be the beginning of the Kaepernick era.

  31. mrmarcus55 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:55 PM

    Ok I’m really thinking Niners and Manning have a verbal agreement. If so the onslaught is at hand.

  32. harbaughshandshake says: Mar 18, 2012 8:55 PM

    Taking my mediocre talents at best to south beach……..

  33. lumas101 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:56 PM

    As a Bills fan who has a passing interest in the 49ers, I like Alex Smith and enjoyed watching him finally pull it all together this season.

    It would be too bad to have to unleash Mario Williams on him twice a year for the next six years.

    Here’s hoping he finds a way to stay in San Fran.

  34. cavemanna says: Mar 18, 2012 8:56 PM

    This would be better than Flynn. and a long term solution if he plays to his ability. Id also dare to say the Dolphins made out pretty good in the end….afterall.

  35. tsep305 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:56 PM

    I prefer Smith over Flynn anyway. At least the guy has a successful season under his belt.

  36. robertunsoberirish says: Mar 18, 2012 8:56 PM

    I hope Peyton Manning ends up anywhere but San Francisco. The bandwagon fans jumping off that fluke of a football franchise would resemble the Titanic sinking!

  37. gmen1990 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:57 PM

    Don’t forget that Alex and Peyton are both represented by Tom Condon. Why is it all of a sudden that Alex is looking for work elsewhere… It only makes sense that maybe his agent knows Peyton is going to SF and he wants his other client to have a job as well.

  38. nflsucker says: Mar 18, 2012 8:57 PM

    Good for him not to just be toyed with, but… If only Alex Smith could play as if he had any reason to possess some swagger.

  39. tombrokaw says: Mar 18, 2012 8:57 PM

    They only lost 4 games eh?

    Wanna rethink that?

  40. wtfredskinsftw says: Mar 18, 2012 8:57 PM

    Alex and Payton have the same agent and i bet he told Alex to find a new home because Payton is taking yours.

  41. abcdjcrews says: Mar 18, 2012 8:59 PM

    As anti-49er fan, this is going to be hilarious if PM signs anywhere but SF.

  42. mrmarcus55 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:59 PM

    Manning isn’t going to Denver. No defense.

  43. alldonesmith says: Mar 18, 2012 8:59 PM

    As a lifelong 49ers fan, I personally hope Alex Smith moves on to Miami. Alex is a great guy, but being a great guy doesn’t win Super Bowls. 49ers fans who know football and have watched him play since he was drafted know that while he may have turned out differently if he had had Harbaugh as a rookie, he got David Carr’ed and is the guy that he is. The fact is, the team offered him a deal that’s as good or better than anything else he was going to get, and by not signing it he opened the door to this circus HIMSELF.

    Personally, I’m fairly certain that if the team doesn’t land Manning (which would be a fairly silly decision on his part) either Colin Kaepernick or Josh Johnson would be able to lead the team to 29th in passing yardage like Alex did last year. There’s a sizable chunk of Alexmaniacs who are as obsessed with him as the Tebowmaniacs are with Tebow that will disagree, but anyone who thinks the 9ers can’t upgrade from Smith even without Manning are just plain incorrect.

  44. jbowman374 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:00 PM

    Manning to SF. Bank on it!

  45. airinrodgers says: Mar 18, 2012 9:00 PM

    The niners are in a win-win. They didn’t make the NFC Championship game because of him and they probably feel he’s no better than the guy they just spent a 2nd round pick on (Kaepernick) *36th overall might I add*

    If they don’t land Manning, they won’t stress as much. If so, great.

    49ers know what they’re doing. Alex Smith sucks.

  46. bobfultz says: Mar 18, 2012 9:01 PM

    This could be a blessing in disguise. the 9ers looked pretty good last year and Smith was a big part of it. He’s got his mistake-ridden years behind him and is starting to come into his own. This could be a good thing for the Phins and Alex Smith.

    I’m still shocked that Matt Flynn won’t be a Phin next year. I’d like to know what the real story is there. The Phins were obviously planning to meet with Smith before Flynn signed with Seattle.

  47. kinguga says: Mar 18, 2012 9:01 PM

    Smith managed a 90.7 QB rating last year to go along with 17 TDs and 5 INTs. Peyton Manning is a much better quarterback, but if he takes the wrong kind of hit, the Niners would be royally screwed. If I ran the Niners, I’d keep Smith (youth, his improvement, and the guts he showed against the Saints in the playoffs are my reasons), but it looks like they have something else in mind.

  48. phillyphil005 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:01 PM

    The rest of the AFC East hopes this gets done.

  49. thcnote says: Mar 18, 2012 9:02 PM

    It comes from Mike Klis which means there is a 99% chance it is a guess.

  50. mjkelly77 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:02 PM

    Hairbow may have to quarterback the 49ers himself. I’m sure with his ego that he thinks he can handle it.

  51. sonoco says: Mar 18, 2012 9:02 PM

    The 49ers went after Hasselbeck last year and he chose Tennessee . . . so that would make sense. But unless Smith is tired of swallowing his pride for the franchise his best bet is to wait Manning out and hope he spurns 49ers. That will be Smith’s last best chance for success and a respectable contract. At this point Harbaugh can say his GM requested that he check out Manning after Smith didn’t sign their first offer and there’s your exit strategy . . . Baalke is the bad guy. Boo hoo. They move on . . . if Smith leaves them that option.

    If Smith signs with Miami and Manning goes to Denver then the 49ers will be scrambling. But as a Niner fan my hope is that the Manning camp will be announcing a visit to Santa Clara shortly.

  52. erfoster says: Mar 18, 2012 9:02 PM

    manning should wait another week. i can here all the cryin now.

  53. juvegol says: Mar 18, 2012 9:04 PM

    Dolphins are acting like that 32 year old single, parties too much, chick thats exiting her prime and will take anything at this point.

  54. stunzeed5 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:05 PM

    I understand “due diligence”, but just sign with a freakin’ team Peyton so you don’t hold the rest of the league hostage with their QB situation.

    Meh, who cares really…..I’m a Skins’ fan, RGIII is going to flip this @#$@@# league upside down-seven ways to Sunday ;)

  55. ty49er4life says: Mar 18, 2012 9:06 PM

    If they lose Alex and manning they should try and trade with the Bears and get Campbell he was playing great for the raiders before the injury last year and the niners roster is better than the raiders roster or you never know what kap can do Alex surprised us last year.

  56. tlaw21 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:06 PM

    @sdisme yeah Smith does have Tom Condon Peyton’s agent as his agent too so maybe he’s basically telling Alex to find somewhere else fast cuz the 49ers have the fast track on Peyton

  57. uslim2nun says: Mar 18, 2012 9:07 PM

    PLEASE leave Harbaugh blowing in the wind with no QB !!!!! Manning to Denver, Smith to Miami, Flynn to Seattle………… Hey Harbaugh I think Ramsey is available

  58. cali49er707 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:07 PM

    laugh now because, deep down inside u know your worst fear is coming in mere hours!!!!
    PEYTON TO THE 9ERS

  59. dolphan37 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:07 PM

    I think this is a better option for the Fins, rather than Matt Flynn. Alex is a proven starter. Last I remembered he led San Fran to the NFC title game, without a top notch receiving corp. He was not the reason they lost the title game. Hope the Fins can pull this one off.

    BTW, Peyton Place is really starting to to turn in Farve’s drama ???

  60. faithful209er says: Mar 18, 2012 9:07 PM

    Colin Kaepernick > Alex Smith

    If Kaepernick leads the Niners next year, the Niners will STILL have their best QB since Steve Young… (chew on that… it’s true)

    Of course, it’s just a fact that Peyton Manning > Colin Kaepernick > Alex Smith

  61. jharmon64 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:07 PM

    I think it would be kind of funny to see the Dolphins land Smith and the 49ers NOT get Manning.

  62. redassranch says: Mar 18, 2012 9:07 PM

    Agree with the Josh Johnson… if SF misses on Peyton, and if Alex “finds some talent in South Beach”

    Colin & Josh won’t be much different than Alex at the begining of last season…

  63. ndnut says: Mar 18, 2012 9:09 PM

    Smith needs the niners and the niners would be better with smith as long as harbaugh is coach. 18 would dismantle any offense they set up, which seemed pretty good last year. The Peyton System requires a superstar deep threat, which isn’t a TE. Smith will fail if harbaugh isn’t his coach.

  64. stoutfiles says: Mar 18, 2012 9:09 PM

    I don’t understand why the Dolphins aren’t drafting Tannehill.

  65. faithful209er says: Mar 18, 2012 9:10 PM

    Oh yeah, Faithful209er told ya, the Niners are about to come out of nowhere and sign Josh Johnson in the next 48 hours.

  66. autumnwind999 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    SF would give Peyton his best shot at another ring. Maybe this is a sign of where that’s going. For Miami to be left investing that much in Alex Smith is like getting kicked in the crotch and then pushed down a flight of stairs.

  67. neauxgeaux44 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    Nothing wold be finer than than to watch the 1 hit wonders fall next year….SF is nothing but a joke….false bravado and hubris….Hairbow is a friggin joke….

  68. abninf says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    Well he was the 9th rated QB last season. In 2010 Manning was the 10th rated *shrug*

  69. marissa227 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    Just like the lights “mysteriously” going out on monday night… this is all about the niners getting a new stadium… that is why alex is being forced outta town

  70. dtjano says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    Going to be hard for the Dolphins to pass up Tannehill in the 1st. Either it’s him or they’re playing for Barkley.

    Miami better make a move or the Philbin era could end up a lot like the Cam Cameron era.

  71. eknirb says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    I’m standing outside Sports Authority waiting for the shipment of Niners 18 MANNING jerseys. He won’t get 16, but he’ll get anything else he wants.

    Just get it done, PM. We need u.

  72. gatherspeed says: Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM

    If SF misses out, look for them to move for Josh Johnson.

  73. jrcoop says: Mar 18, 2012 9:13 PM

    Smith’s skill set is well suited the GB style offense of Philbin. Mobile accurate and does make too many bad decisions. He did well with a decent system and is intellegent enough to operate Philbins. As for Flynn like Marino said there’s a reason he’s a back up.

  74. phinfan says: Mar 18, 2012 9:14 PM

    It just keeps getting better in Miami…. wtf

  75. dolphins4 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:14 PM

    Sign Smith and then draft a young QB to develop.

  76. miamimike1 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:15 PM

    Ok please tell if I am incorrect but doesn’t Manning and Smith have same agent as well? If so is it possible the agent knows what’s going on with Manning all ready and wants his other client to go get signed also. This way the agent gets his money. Seems like something is up here. It’s to stupid for the 49ers to just let Smith go and not know what’s up with Manning. I just think the agent has been told and he told Smith to go look now. As a agent it would be smart for him to do. Again it idea not make sence to just let Smith go and you have just about a 33% chance to get manning.

  77. zacmonte says: Mar 18, 2012 9:15 PM

    All signs point to this being a bad signing by an inept front office. If you can get him for 2 or 3 years, go for it, but don’t give him a big deal. Odds are he will fail in Miami. SF had Harbaugh’s system, a stout running game, and at least one weapon with Vernon Davis. Miami has an average to below average rushing attack, no weapons to speak of receiving wise, and he will be once again put into a new system after only having 1 successful year after 4 or 5 pretty bad ones. If he goes to Miami right now, he is setting himself up for failure. Wait for Manning to make his choice, and if he does sign with the 49ers, then bounce to Miami, if not then stay in San Fran where you have had a successful year. It’s not like he really has to worry about them signing anyone else, no one left on the market would be any better than Matt Moore.

  78. 3kdad says: Mar 18, 2012 9:15 PM

    Mike Klis now reports the Jaguars will move to Orlando and Mickey Mouse will be starting QB according to a Disney World source.

    This guy also reported the Texans were after Manning!

  79. bigmike7914 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:16 PM

    The niners better land Peyton, or they are going to be in a world of trouble.

  80. warsal says: Mar 18, 2012 9:16 PM

    Matt Moore is just as good as Alex smith

  81. laxcoach37 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:16 PM

    As a Dolphin Fan… I like the signing possibility. Based on the way FA went for us getting the 9th best QB in the NFL for a value price ( yeah, sad but $6M is a bargain) we could do worse. He battles Moore, we grab some right side protection and a WR in the Draft and while we wont win the Super Bowl this year, we didnt mortgage the future. Guess what? The sky isnt falling and the Dolphins are still the Winningiest Team in the NFL. Look it up! Contrary to the slanted Media and uneducated Haters, we have nothing to be ashamed of. I see Manning getting crippled in Tenn, the 49ers get no QB, the Broncos stick with Tebow and he actually learns to throw and surprises Elway, Flynn does well in Seattle, but the Hawks do nothing to advance in Playoffland and rest of the teams overpaid for so-called FA Stars. Another NFL… Did I forget to mention, We actually have to play the Games to see how well our Teams did.

  82. phishead1313 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:17 PM

    I’m going to throw up now

  83. mwcarolina says: Mar 18, 2012 9:18 PM

    i actually would love to see Tebow in SF with Harbaugh, hey, he helped Smith, maybe he can help Tebow, you never know.

    Anyways, for the real reason i came here to post. Someone asked who Miami’s WRs and TEs are. Well, if they sign a QB in free agency, i look for them to reach for either Michael Floyd or Kendall Wright and have them be the go to WR in Miami to go with Bess and Hartline and Alex Smith should know Reggie Bush pretty well since they were teammates in high school.

  84. lostsok says: Mar 18, 2012 9:19 PM

    Smith is a solid compliment to Matt Moore. Flynn has more upside…but a much lower floor, too. He could bust entirely, and Moore clearly didn’t and Smith won’t either at this point.

    My only fear as a Dolphin fan is that Miami will overdraft Tennehill, who clearly is 2-3 years away and looks for all the world to be on the same level anyway. Miami needs to spend that 1st rounder on a wide receiver like Floyd or an impact pass-rusher (there will be a 1/2 dozen value picks at 8 that fit).

    Tennehill SHOULD be a 2nd round development guy, and is only moving up due to Barkley and Landry Jones staying in school. He’s not a franchise 1st rounder. Not even close.

  85. mrplow3 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:20 PM

    Ok, once again, let me speak real slow for the front runners who don’t know anything about my 9ers or Alex Smith:

    Gamer manangers do not, I repeat, DO NOT lead the league in come back wins. That is the opposite of a game manger.

    Alex Smith is a solid qb who can be very, very clutch.

    I don’t want to lose him on the gamble of MAYBE signing a MAYBE healthy Peyton Manning that will DEFINITELY cost my team a bloody fortune.

    Downvote me if you want, I see no reason to gamble this way.

  86. anrockray says: Mar 18, 2012 9:20 PM

    Miami, where everyone goes to gain leverage…before signing with another team. Ouch, hurts to be a Phin fan.

  87. phillyphever says: Mar 18, 2012 9:20 PM

    If Manning chooses Tennessee over Denver, SF might get a break. Hasselbeck may not be the guy he was in Seattle, but I rather take him over Smith and Tebow.

  88. emmac13 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:22 PM

    49ers better hope Peyton goes there. It would be hillarious to see him go to Denver. Then the 49ers have to get McNabb,Tebow, or Tavaris. Cleveland will trade them Senaca.

  89. teal379 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:23 PM

    jrcoop says:
    Mar 18, 2012 9:13 PM
    Smith’s skill set is well suited the GB style offense of Philbin. Mobile accurate and does make too many bad decisions. He did well with a decent system and is intellegent enough to operate Philbins. As for Flynn like Marino said there’s a reason he’s a back up.

    ********************************************

    Then Marino’s being intellectually dishonest. It’s not like Flynn was riding the pine behind Kitna or Sanchez – he was behind Aaron Rodgers, a guy who’s on a Hall of Fame career path and was just a little bit busy winning a Superbowl and setting NFL records for QB play. You’re just NOT going to get ahead of the depth chart on a guy like that regardless of talent.

  90. krazykaosklown says: Mar 18, 2012 9:23 PM

    Everyone not a Niner fan acts like Smith was winning games before Harbaugh. Harbaugh made Smith the QB he was last year. He will do the same with Kaepernick.

  91. robdolphins says: Mar 18, 2012 9:24 PM

    To My fellow Dolfans: You say our beloved Dolphins have become a joke, but some of you are doing a good job of making us look like the fools. The local media hyped up Flynn (2 games) and you bought in, that is fine..But, since Smith had never been linked to Phins, you say Phins are stupid for talking to him…He was a #1 overall pick, he came around under good coaching, led his to the NFC Championship game…Yet, since you were not led to believe he was an option, this makes him a bad choice…Please make us look better and give some positive feedback…Go Dolphins

  92. cosanostra71 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:24 PM

    You mean after eight long years, he might finally be gone? I won’t believe it until he takes the field in another uniform. Until then I continue to believe the Niners will come out with a ridiculous offer and say he just didn’t get a proper chance

  93. mikesmajormojo says: Mar 18, 2012 9:24 PM

    It’s been widely reported that Manning, not his agent, has been dealing with teams directly. This lends credence to the rumor that the ‘secret’ 49er brass visit to Duke last Tues – before TEN and DEN were offered the chance – was Peyton’s idea. This doesn’t mean too much from the outside, but considering that the 49ers have been busy adding pieces to their offense while still waiting for Manning to decide while the other teams have been idle or losing other pieces of their offense, it has to figure into Manning’s decision as to where he thinks he’s the best fit.

    As far as Alex goes, if he signs in MIA for the same $ the 49ers have already offered him, it would seem to be out of spite and surprisingly out of character for him. He’d be smart to wait out the Manning decision and treat this for what it is – a business decision. Either way though, best of luck if you choose to become a Dolphin Alex.

  94. cgsuddeath says: Mar 18, 2012 9:25 PM

    Idiots!!!

  95. mrmarcus55 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:25 PM

    All the Niners haters, I don’t blame you I’d be nervous as hello of the thought of peyton on that team, even without him they are a top 5 team.

  96. turk2875 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:27 PM

    So if the Fins sign Alex Smith and the 49ers miss out on Manning, whose going to get the ball to Moss, Manningham, and Davis?? Colin Kaepernick????

  97. hot97x says: Mar 18, 2012 9:28 PM

    yeah the niners will be so screwed, just like last year when everyone assumed they would be terrible. Kaep will be ready to win this division if he starts. by the end of the year he’ll be ready to win in the playoffs.

  98. westclaims says: Mar 18, 2012 9:28 PM

    So if Manning goes to SF, maybe history will repeat itself? I was at the Cards game where Steve Young got leveled by Aneas Williams. Wouldn’t mind seeing something like that again.

  99. brunzca says: Mar 18, 2012 9:30 PM

    I just threw up in my mouth. A LOT

  100. 1grub says: Mar 18, 2012 9:32 PM

    Alex Smith sucks and this Dolphin’s offseason is perhaps the worst in recent memory.

  101. stevenfbrackett says: Mar 18, 2012 9:33 PM

    “Smith sucks! Smith sucks!”

    14-3 and in the playoffs the very next season after one of the franchise’s worst seasons ever -

    How does that suck again?

    Sounds pretty damned good to me. Sounds like something very good to build on. Doesn’t sound like something you throw away for the mere chance of getting a guy you don’t even know will be able to play.

  102. raiderrob21 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:34 PM

    Lets here all the so called 49er fans….you know the ones that thought Alex Smith was the Messiah, then turned on him after 6 years of nothing. Then just last year let the media convince you he was good again because their D was winning them ball games. And here we are, after all of you thought he was God again, LETS HERE HOW HE SUCKS, Dont need him, etc. What a joke! The truth is he sucked all 7 years, period. You better land a HEALTHY Manning, or its gonna be Alex Smith part 2 with Colin Whats his name!

  103. jbniner says: Mar 18, 2012 9:35 PM

    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves just yet. There’s still a lot to sort out. However, if Manning goes somewhere else, and Smith signs with Miami then it’s Alex Smith doing the screwing…

    1. Niners offer him 3yrs $24m before free agency starts.

    2. Smith balks because he wants more years, Niners rightly say “no”.

    3. Niners decide to kick the tires on some guy named Peyton Manning

    4. Smith gets his feelings hurt and and decides to look around elsewhere

    Perhaps this is where the agent comes because he’s either certain Peyton will sign with SF and Smith needs to move on, or he’s having Smith leverage what little power he has.

    5. Smith currently negotiating the same annual salary with Fins as he’s been offered with SF

    If Alex signs with Miami, it would be a classic case of cutting off his nose to spite his face. The best place for him is SF, he’s put himself in this position, and I’d almost be relieved if Miami signed him regardless of what happens with Manning. 3 years $24m was more than fair given Smiths level of accomplshmet in 7 NFL seasons. His best year came under Harbaugh who moved heaven and earth to make sure the offense was structured with his success in mind. Harbaugh can do the same thing with another QB, but the preferance, at this point, should be to get someone who doesn’t need training wheels after 7 years in the league.

  104. smitty9er says: Mar 18, 2012 9:36 PM

    Alex Smith is definitely worth $8 million a year if Matt Flynn received more and he hasn’t done anything in the NFL!

  105. whoknowsnothing says: Mar 18, 2012 9:37 PM

    This is a good move by the Phins.
    A.Smith showed he is a good QB, but he needs to do it again. Alex only threw 5 int’s last year and a passer rating of 90.

    Those stats alone are better than any QB Miami has had in a while.

    Welcome to Miami Alex!

  106. emmac13 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:38 PM

    I believe Smith is a better pick up than Flynn. Just me maybe. If you believe Smith did well because of Harbaugh I am sure he will excel with Philbin. How was Smith going to excel with Singletary?

  107. seeptermean says: Mar 18, 2012 9:39 PM

    “the Dolphins have decided to make a pre-emptive strike, actively pursuing Alex Smith, who led the 49ers to a 14-3 record in 2011.”

    UMMMM more like 14-4, how bout the GMEN!!!

  108. tittsburghfeelers says: Mar 18, 2012 9:40 PM

    from being a frontrunner for peyton manning to negotiating with alex smith…..talk about walking in wanting a steak and getting dried up meatloaf

  109. jvibottomline says: Mar 18, 2012 9:40 PM

    To all you morons on here, if the Niners don’t get Manning, which it looks like they will get him, it’s going to be Colin Kaepernick and he is a stud, not all these retread loser career backups you keep throwing out. It’s Kaepernick now or Kaepernick when Manning retires in 3 years, either way the Niners are LOADED! First team to 7 in the case, BOOK IT!

  110. harrisbarton says: Mar 18, 2012 9:40 PM

    Am a bit surprised at all the Niner-haters on here. One-hit wonders? Posted by the same guys who said that the Niners would be “one and done” in the playoffs last year.

    Similarly with all the hate piled on Harbaugh. I just don’t get it. At Stanford Harbaugh won with Toby Gerhart as his offensive leader and then he won with Andrew Luck. He’ll figure this one out.

    I have no idea how this is all going to play out, but as a long-time season ticket holder who sat through almost a decade of some pretty lousy football I have total faith in current management to put a competitive team out there. I don’t understand how so many of you can be so sure that they’re going to suck.

  111. kcrockett1 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:41 PM

    Anybody else find it funny that this report is coming outta Denver? #misinformation

  112. WestCoastVet says: Mar 18, 2012 9:43 PM

    It’s so funny all of you guys who are like “if all else fails, get josh johnson” only because PFT said. no one was saying that 24 hours ago.

    I bet it’s one person with like 15 accounts that keeps saying “Haha the 49ers are a fluke” etc. Most storied franchise in the NFL. Cry/hate/whatever you want. But facts are facts.

    As to Alex Smith, good riddance. He is a plague on this team.

  113. jasncondit says: Mar 18, 2012 9:44 PM

    I’m glad Alex is leaving. He was a class act on a classless team with a classless coach! I hope he signs with the Dolphins and San Fran loses out on a QB once again! Maybe the Lions can trade them Shaun Hill for a LB and CB.

  114. jasncondit says: Mar 18, 2012 9:45 PM

    @Mrmarcus55

    Peyton won’t have the same weapons he had in Indy.

  115. croghan1919 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:46 PM

    I pray to the ALMIGHTY that Miami will find a QB that they can go with for more than a few seasons.
    It’s getting embarrassing.
    And I’m not even a FinFan.

  116. freedomispopular says: Mar 18, 2012 9:47 PM

    So I’m guessing either Condon knows something the rest of us don’t, or Smith is tired of the waiting game. Honestly, I doubt the Kaepernick could do any worse than Smith, and now that they’ve got some decent talent besides Davis, maybe he’ll do even better.

  117. cali49er707 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:49 PM

    neauxgeaux44 says:
    Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM
    Nothing wold be finer than than to watch the 1 hit wonders fall next year….SF is nothing but a joke….false bravado and hubris….Hairbow is a friggin joke….

    just like the last aints fan this ones for you bud!!!!
    WHO DAT??
    WE DAT!!
    WE DAT TEAM DAT BEAT DEM AINTS!!

  118. johnnyb216 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:51 PM

    Whoever is calling the shots in Miami needs to be fired immediately for the way he’s botched the last 5 days.

  119. ramitbaby says: Mar 18, 2012 9:54 PM

    Bradford to Cleveland for 4th and 22nd picks and a #2 in 2013 leaving Rams with picks 4, 6, 22, 33 and 38 of this years draft.

    4th pick: Blackmon
    6th pick: Richardson
    22nd pick: Upshaw
    33rd pick: Zach Brown
    38th pick: Jeffery

    Free Agency: Sign Manning in last-minute shocker.

    Rams win NFC in 2012.

  120. possiblecabbage says: Mar 18, 2012 9:55 PM

    Does anybody else find this kind of hilarious?

    If Peyton signs with the Titans, Hasselbeck and Smith are the starting QBs for the Dolphins/Niners in some order.

    If Peyton signs with the Niners, Hasselbeck and Smith are the starting QBS for the Dolphins/Titans.

    The only plausible scenario that doesn’t leave enough starting calibre QBs for the Dolphins and 49ers is if Peyton signs with the Broncos…

  121. dolphins4 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:59 PM

    After watching Alex Smith last year I think this would be a really good signing.Smith played great last year and it was the only year he had a really good coach which Miami has too.

  122. jnova80 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:00 PM

    Why all of the Harbaugh hate? Because of him celebrating after the Lions win? You guys do know that nothing like that has happened since and that was over five months ago, right? Don’t be mad because he’s not you coach, haters.

  123. cluelessdufus says: Mar 18, 2012 10:00 PM

    If he signs where is his #1 receiver oh ya in Chicago you least should have gotten a solid 1st or 2nd this bad trade may result in having to draft Micheal Floyd or Kendall Wright or try Riley Reiff and Stephen Hill in the 2nd either way this works these picks could be used on the line or defense if this trade did not go through

  124. monkeesfan says: Mar 18, 2012 10:00 PM

    Titans land Manning – Manning best fit for AFC South.

    Niners grab Hasselback – Hass a better fit with NFC West.

    Dolphins sign Smith – they’re double-desperate for SOME kind of Name after blowing it with all the other FA coaches and players they went after.

    Flynn has already signed with Seahawks.

  125. wannstache says: Mar 18, 2012 10:04 PM

    He’s wisely using our team for leverage, nothing more. Besides, aren’t all the pieces already in place for a Super Bowl run? That’s what Ross & Ireland said when they fired Sparano. Why the big urgency to sign a QB?

  126. ttommytom says: Mar 18, 2012 10:05 PM

    [quote]juvegol says:
    Mar 18, 2012 9:04 PM
    Dolphins are acting like that 32 year old single, parties too much, chick thats exiting her prime and will take anything at this point.[/quote]

    Very true:
    You get any smoking 31 to 34 y/o by being kind and having a good job. I had the time of my life for years on end…thanks for the smile…

  127. detroitcityryda says: Mar 18, 2012 10:10 PM

    sf tried to play him now I hope smith signs with dolphins and manning chooses titans/den then niners will have no qb next season that would be great .

  128. indyeagle says: Mar 18, 2012 10:10 PM

    Until I read these posts, I had no idea that anyone who actually watched NFL games, thought the 49ers had “weapons”.

    Are you serious?

    I’ll give you Davis (even though he was inconsistent most of the season) and Gore is a beast, but your receivers are average at best. Crabtree obviously has potential, but so far, he has been average.

  129. mr49er1981 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:13 PM

    I’m Ok with Kaepernick… The 49er Defense is who got them to the ship!

  130. rickybobbie says: Mar 18, 2012 10:13 PM

    Good back-up for Dan Marino, heard he is coming out of retirement.

  131. lightofkolob says: Mar 18, 2012 10:13 PM

    I as a die hard niner fan am FRIGHTENED with the idea of Matt Hasselbeck being the 9ers QB. That would be as bad as starting Trent Dilfer, JT Osullivan or Chris Wenke. IF they let Smith go and don’t sign Manning I hope they find their new Steve Young by taking Tebow out of Denver.

  132. jrcoop says: Mar 18, 2012 10:15 PM

    teal379 says: Mar 18, 2012 9:23 PM

    jrcoop says:
    Mar 18, 2012 9:13 PM
    Smith’s skill set is well suited the GB style offense of Philbin. Mobile accurate and does make too many bad decisions. He did well with a decent system and is intellegent enough to operate Philbins. As for Flynn like Marino said there’s a reason he’s a back up.

    ********************************************
    Then Marino’s being intellectually dishonest. It’s not like Flynn was riding the pine behind Kitna or Sanchez – he was behind Aaron Rodgers, a guy who’s on a Hall of Fame career path and was just a little bit busy winning a Superbowl and setting NFL records for QB play. You’re just NOT going to get ahead of the depth chart on a guy like that regardless of talent.

    —————————————————

    Really. It would appear Philbin and Marino share the same “intellectual dishonesty”. Statistically, Flynn was better than Rodgers on the two (2) games he played, but yet he still road the pine. Either Philbin is an idiot, or perhaps has better insight to Flynn than everyone else. I will defer to the latter.

  133. commitment2excrement says: Mar 18, 2012 10:15 PM

    worst case scenario its Kapernick/Josh Johnson/Billy Volek type Qb for this season. Thats not a huge dropoff from Alex Smith

  134. tittsburghfeelers says: Mar 18, 2012 10:19 PM

    some of the niners fans need to realize their team isnt as good as they think they are. SF was a product of lucky scheduling. all their toughest opponents they played at home last year. cowboys at home, played eagles early in the year when they were terrible, giants at home (twice), steelers a week after roethlisbergers injury (if you dont think that made a difference youre an ignorant fool), also not to metion being in the worst division in all the NFL. dont get me wrong they are a solid team and harbaugh is obviously a big time coach but a top 5 team? absolutely not. they wont get the lucky scheduling next year, niners had one tough opponent on the road, ravens. next year they have the bears, saints, jets, patriots on the road . without manning 8-8, with a healthy manning 10-6

  135. mnavia2 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:19 PM

    My “sources” say 49ers are off the list due to playing on the west coast. You heard it here first.

  136. ronswansonsdinner says: Mar 18, 2012 10:23 PM

    Not trying to start a political debate, but I wonder how the San Francisco area would react if Tebow were traded there considering that area seems to be very liberal and Tebow is very conservative. I think they would embrace him most likely.

  137. latopia says: Mar 18, 2012 10:24 PM

    Hasselbeck 2011 – QBR/82.4, T/Os 17, poor-throw%/14.9%, passing-TDs 18, rushing-TDs 0.

    Smith 2011 – QBR/90.7, T/Os 8, poor-throw%/14.4%, passing-TDs 17, rushing-TDs 2.

    Yeah. Hasselbeck is so much better.

  138. meytonpanning says: Mar 18, 2012 10:27 PM

    Good – Get Manning, Lose Smith, keep Kaepernick
    Bad – Lose Smith, get Manning, keep Kaepernick
    Worse – Lose Smith, miss out on Manning, and keep Kaepernick as a starter..

    Sounds like SF is in excellent position to me, because even the worse option is still very exciting as Kaepernick is an under-the-radar-talent.

  139. orangecrush823 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:28 PM

    Anyone else tired of people writing “Nuff said” or “Book it”?

  140. jeff061 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:28 PM

    Matt Hasselbeck! That’s who you think they should’ve signed to begin with? That is hilarious…this year was Matt’s career in a nutshell – win as many as you lose….same tds as turnovers (18-18)…looks great for a few games, average a few games and terrible ffro 1/2 the games

    Plus…an aging QB with a bad back who is 1 hit from retirement….brilliant choice!

    Here in Seattle – we are thrilled he was driven out of town.

  141. gcsuk says: Mar 18, 2012 10:33 PM

    harrisbarton says:
    Mar 18, 2012 9:40 PM
    Am a bit surprised at all the Niner-haters on here. One-hit wonders? Posted by the same guys who said that the Niners would be “one and done” in the playoffs last year.
    ——————————————————-

    Don’t be surprised. It’s just the fans of the 31 other NFL teams that had to listen to the crowing, arrogance, and hubris from 49er fans all last year. My God, you would have thought that team was going for a 4-peat the way most ’9er fans talked.

    Looks to be about the same this off-season. How dare ANYBODY not like the 49ers??!?!?!?!?!?

  142. brenenostler says: Mar 18, 2012 10:34 PM

    He doesnt care about the money anymore. He feels disrespected by San Fran and wants a new team. Those of you who think Alex is doing this for $8 mil a year are dumb. Leave him alone.

  143. krazykaosklown says: Mar 18, 2012 10:37 PM

    @jasncondit

    Are you talking about the same weapons that went 2 and 14 without peyton last year? Manning makes everyone around him better.

  144. thermalito says: Mar 18, 2012 10:37 PM

    That Niner defense giving short fields to Manning all year is going to be frightening. I can’t see anyone beating this team next year.

  145. sean6886 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:47 PM

    Smith and Manning have the same agent. No way Condon let’s Smith sign w/Dolphins unless he knows something about Manning’s decision.

  146. krazykaosklown says: Mar 18, 2012 10:49 PM

    Just read that Alex Smith will not sign with Dolphins unless the Niners get Manning. This stuff is hilarious/

  147. tsep305 says: Mar 18, 2012 10:50 PM

    One could make a good argument that Moore is better than Smith.

    QB Games Yards Comp. % TDs INTs Rating
    Matt Moore 13 2,497 60.5 16 9 87.1
    Alex Smith 16 3,144 61.3 17 5 90.7

    Moore would have thrown for more touch downs than Smith had he played 16 games last year. He probably would have equaled him in total passing yards too.

    Miami would be wise to ignore the media here. If Blackman doesn’t fall to you at 8 then trade back for extra picks and get Malcom Floyd or Kendal Wright. Draft Weeden if he’s available in the 3rd round. The only QB that is more NFL ready than he is Luck.

  148. jdmastermind says: Mar 18, 2012 10:51 PM

    What a joke Alex Smith you got to be joking, David Garrard, Dennis Dixon those two would be great choices but Alex Smith, he misses more plays and has had every opportunity to be a great Quarterback but has always come up short, He is a backup at best period subject closed, Even Tony Romo is a better qb not much but an improvement, Matt Moore is not a bad qb you could do worse say Alex SmithLOL
    That’s why the Dolphins if they chose Smith will be in the basement next year but the good news is if you want to call it that is they may be able to get Barkley next year or Landry Jones. They shouldn’t have gave Brandon Marshall up or at least try to get a receiver to replace him come on Miami at least try to win.

    Miami is becoming like San Diego and Cincinnati teams that don’t try very hard to win Super Bowls.

    JD Mastermind
    Has approved this message

  149. killitandeatit says: Mar 18, 2012 10:56 PM

    Well,as a niner fan the talk of Tebow or Hassleback is chilling. I can’t believe this nightmare started Friday. The Manning chase is turning into a Waterloo for the 49ers . How quickly things can turn…just like a pick 6. For the last time Manning is going Tenn.

  150. havok28 says: Mar 18, 2012 11:11 PM

    The 49ers are not going to be as good as everone is saying….. They had an easy schedule since they were 6-10 the year before. Look what happened to the Bucs once they had a hard schedule, granted the 49ers are better but this happens every year to a few teams the media over hyped.

  151. fatfreddystubbs says: Mar 18, 2012 11:15 PM

    orangecrush823 says:
    Mar 18, 2012 10:28 PM
    Anyone else tired of people writing “Nuff said” or “Book it”?
    ————————————————–
    Agreed. I would also add the people that end with “PERIOD”. It’s the Stephen A Smith school of debate.

  152. truthassassin says: Mar 18, 2012 11:17 PM

    Haha, in chasing Manning San Fran may have lost the QB that knows their system and that nearly took them to the superbowl… At this point I almost hope they don’t get Manning just because I think they deserve to get screwed… This will certainly be interesting

  153. modellforprez says: Mar 18, 2012 11:26 PM

    what could harbaugh do with dennis dixon?

  154. footballfan80 says: Mar 18, 2012 11:30 PM

    laxcoach37:

    You do realize the Dolphins have not won one freakin play0ff game in over a decade? No reason for you to get even remotely excited. Unless you think you can beat the Bills out this season for the AFCE basement.

  155. georgebrett says: Mar 18, 2012 11:32 PM

    This QB carousel really could end up hitting the 49ers hard…

    Flynn to Seahawks.
    Smith to Dolphins.
    Manning to Broncos.
    Leaving what, Tebow or Garrard for the 49ers…?

    … They would be better off calling in Favre at that point.——–

    Why would Denver get rid of Tebow if Manning signed? Best goal line offense out there and if Manning got hurt it would be an easy offense to run once again.

  156. krazykaosklown says: Mar 18, 2012 11:44 PM

    @havok28

    overhyped by the media? I do believe they were predicted by just about everyone to be last in their division. Every week was a game to prove how good they were. They were a very disrespected team last year in my opinion. They went 14 and 4 with a bad offense. Yes they will have a tougher schedule. Could that be the reason they are going after Manning?

  157. imag3d says: Mar 18, 2012 11:54 PM

    I know this is going to sound foolish but the problem with the fins in this off season is they won too many games last season. The result is they are not high enough in the draft to get a possible impact quarterback. Both Peyton Manning, Alex Smith and Matt Flynn are significant risks, Peyton is probably now injury prone, Alex Smith could be a one year wonder and Matt Flynn could be a two game wonder.
    If the Dolphins were higher in the draft they would have more flexibility in selecting a quarterback. Negotiating with the agents of Peyton, Smith and Flynn, the Dolphins are in a extreme disadvantage for in the current circumstances the agents know the phins are desperate for a quarterback so agents are asking top dollar for their clients which in turn the agents use to drive up the market price for other clubs. If the Dolphins were higher in the draft they would have more options open to them and agents would be forced to deal on a more level playing field.

  158. bad4ndy says: Mar 19, 2012 12:00 AM

    “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful” -Warren Buffett

  159. rajbais says: Mar 19, 2012 12:00 AM

    Desperation????

  160. mnlittle says: Mar 19, 2012 12:03 AM

    There’s no loyalty from teams toward the players. SF showed that when they decided to go after Manning. I hope Smith goes to Miami and wins!

  161. rajbais says: Mar 19, 2012 12:09 AM

    This looks like a desperate move, but inside I really am rooting for Alex Smith.

    The coaching staff should have open arms for him, make him feel comfortable, structure the offense to his strengths, and embrace like he deserves to be a part of the team.

    Any form of welcome can help a guy that might be feeling or is truly being put down!!!

  162. rajbais says: Mar 19, 2012 12:13 AM

    Actually, he is reuniting with Reggie Bush!!!

    They played high school football together and are trying to repeat the success they had there.

    Helix HS in San Diego is going to be home to three Dolphins: Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush, and now Alex Smith.

    We have to now see if Smith will be the third Helix alum to have success in South Beach!!!

  163. redandgoldeverything says: Mar 19, 2012 12:14 AM

    L O L at all the 9er haters. “fluke” “lucky scheduling” “smith is their best shot” and so on. I would hate too. That defense got lucky week in and out too. Whats next, “the RBs they played against were injury prone, too small, tired…etc”? With or without smith the 9ers will do JUST fine.

  164. oldbloodstegosaurus says: Mar 19, 2012 12:15 AM

    tittsburghfeelers says: Mar 18, 2012 10:19 PM

    some of the niners fans need to realize their team isnt as good as they think they are. SF was a product of lucky scheduling. all their toughest opponents they played at home last year. cowboys at home, played eagles early in the year when they were terrible, giants at home (twice), steelers a week after roethlisbergers injury (if you dont think that made a difference youre an ignorant fool), also not to metion being in the worst division in all the NFL. dont get me wrong they are a solid team and harbaugh is obviously a big time coach but a top 5 team? absolutely not. they wont get the lucky scheduling next year, niners had one tough opponent on the road, ravens. next year they have the bears, saints, jets, patriots on the road . without manning 8-8, with a healthy manning 10-6
    ________________________________

    Bunk. 9ers beat Bengals and Lions (2 playoff teams) on the road. Ravens was a Thursday game after a cross country flight. Only put on the schedule for a thanksgiving harbowl. Tomlin should have done his job and pulled Roethlisberger, can’t hold that against the niners. AFC west is the worst division in football, I don’t know why people can’t see that. Niners deserved to be 13-3. I agree the niner bandwagon is going full speed but to say that they’re overrated is just as delusional as saying Manning is an instant ring.

  165. going4iton4th says: Mar 19, 2012 12:36 AM

    In my humble opinion, Alex Smith’s value should be higher to the 49ers than any other team. Yeah the guy has never set the world on fire with numbers—but he pretty much Harbaugh’s system to a “T” as in throw 10-15 times and hand off to Gore. Oh yeah and don’t turn the football over. The 49ers have drug their feet on this so here’s hoping their gamble pays off and they get Manning if not Trent Balke and Harbaugh have some splainin’ to do!

  166. darrelb says: Mar 19, 2012 12:42 AM

    So you thought the Niners should have gone after Hasselbeck last year? Why? So that they could have had a starting QB for 4 games? Isn’t that about Hasselbeck’s average the last couple of years?

  167. nineroutsider says: Mar 19, 2012 1:07 AM

    Super funny…you guys are all predicting doomsday scenarios for the 9ers; any of you reading that Alex doesn’t want to sign the Miami deal before seeing what Peyton does?

    Alex brought this on himself. He could have signed the 9ers deal. He didn’t and Peyton called the 9ers, told them to come watch him throw. That means Peyton wants to be a 9er and the only thing that must be holding him back is the money. I know the 9ers offer is the lowest.

    Alex wants to wait, he just put himself in a bad spot now and needs Peyton to go for the cash. Alex wants him to be Bud Adams’ Anna Nicole Smith. You want more rings Peyton or a couple extra millions? Tick, tick, tick…

  168. gimmeabruschi says: Mar 19, 2012 1:17 AM

    You can often count on the fish to do the stupid thing. I don’t mind, but c’mon fish people, stop being even dumber than the jets.

  169. stanklepoot says: Mar 19, 2012 1:57 AM

    ajpurp says: Mar 18, 2012 8:50 PM

    What pieces of the puzzle besides SF having talent?
    __________________________
    I think the poster was implying that since Smith and Peyton have the same agent (Condon) that Smith negotiating with another team means he was given a heads-up to find another gig real fast. Personally, I think that’s a bit of a reach. Peyton may end up in SF, but I don’t think what Smith is doing gives us proof of anything. To begin with, Peyton has been speaking directly with the teams still in the running, and he claims he hasn’t made a final decision yet. In other words, whether Peyton has or hasn’t made a decision yet, there’s reason to believe that Condon at least doesn’t yet know where Peyton will play. If Condon doesn’t know, there goes any inside source Smith would have. Secondly, Smith had a contract offer from the 49ers that’s now kind of in limbo as they wait to see what Peyton will decide. Had Smith signed the contract earlier, he wouldn’t be in this situation. Instead, he waited, and now he could lose his job in SF to Peyton. So, this could be nothing other than Smith having learned his lesson about waiting to long to make a decision. Exactly how many teams are beating down Smith’s door? Not many. If Smith waits to see what Peyton will do, he could end up losing his job to Peyton and finding out that the Dolphins filled the starting job already. If that happens, his odds of getting a starting job in the league will be rather bleak.

  170. stanklepoot says: Mar 19, 2012 2:13 AM

    gmen1990 says: Mar 18, 2012 8:57 PM

    Don’t forget that Alex and Peyton are both represented by Tom Condon. Why is it all of a sudden that Alex is looking for work elsewhere… It only makes sense that maybe his agent knows Peyton is going to SF and he wants his other client to have a job as well.
    _____________________________________
    I highly doubt it. Peyton is handling communications with the teams he’s still considering himself. Condon will be called in basically to hammer out the contract once Peyton has made a decision. So, it’s very possible Condon doesn’t even know where Peyton is going yet. Second, even if Condon did know that Peyton was going to SF, why would he risk losing Peyton as a client and burning bridges with the 49ers front office by betraying their trust…just to help Smith. Peyton is a much more valuable client than Smith ever will be. finally, if a decision has already been reached, then the 49ers would be leaking the news to everyone that would keep their specific names out of it. News of the signing would lead to large increases in ticket and merchandise sales.

    As to why Smith is suddenly considering other options, the public knowledge that the 49ers are a serious candidate to land Manning is a fairly new thing. Smith had an offer from the 49ers already, but that’s now in limbo while the 49ers wait to see if they can get Peyton. If I’m Smith, then I realize I’m in the situation I’m in because I waited too long to act before, and I’m not simply waiting to see if Peyton is coming to take my job. If he does that, the Dolphins could sign another QB while he was just sitting around. So, he could end up losing both his starting job in SF and the chance to be a starter in Miami. Other than those two teams, I haven’t really noticed any others with an interest in Smith as a starter.

  171. nflfan877 says: Mar 19, 2012 2:34 AM

    As good as Smith was last year, if I’m the 49ers and Peyton goes to Tennessee, I can’t help but look at Hasselbeck’s playoff success and think he could push us over.

  172. billmead1976 says: Mar 19, 2012 3:05 AM

    Smokescreen. Andrew Luck is going to pull an Eli Manning on the Colts and refuse to sign.

    49ers will orchestrate a blockbuster trade with indy.

    manning will be stuck in tennessee and retire a loser.

  173. sixjak says: Mar 19, 2012 3:16 AM

    neauxgeaux44 says:
    Mar 18, 2012 9:11 PM
    Nothing wold be finer than than to watch the 1 hit wonders fall next year….SF is nothing but a joke….false bravado and hubris….Hairbow is a friggin joke….

    ______________________________

    Nothing would be finer than to watch the cheap shot wonders get hit with league sanctions, fines and suspensions. Then gloat some more as they lose some draft picks and the IRS comes a callin with some more fines and penalties of their own. Woo Dat is the real joke. Can’t get it done outside of their dome. Violators of league rules because they can’t get it done inside the rule book. Look everybody, a joke rooting for a joke. Get over it already. Your team got beat by the 9ers. I got to watch it in room full of overconfident Saints fans. Some of them were in tears after the game. After the league and IRS get done with the Saints the tears will fall again. So dream on delirious Saints fan, wish for the demise of the 9ers all you want. It don’t change a thing. The Saints were the 9ers tomato can for decades, They played dirty for 3 years violating league rules and now those deeds have come home to roost. LOL.

  174. draconian1111 says: Mar 19, 2012 3:59 AM

    Looking forward to when PM decides where he is going – SF is my bet.
    However, it’s amazing the lack of patience that we fans are showing – after all – we are only fans.

    Not many of us have likely been in a position that several organizations are negotiating for our services – is it so wrong that a person takes time and makes sure that they are making the RIGHT decision?
    If you were in the same situation – what would YOU do? Odds are that we would also do the same – except – we wouldn’t have fans crying about it.

    PM deserves the opportunity to evaluate where he ends up – and – if that means a team PAYS out the rear to get him as well – so be it. It is a business – it is his profession – and you would do the same.

    With all that said – if he signs with SF as I think he will – with all the other moves they have made – the rest of the NFL will need to look out.

    For those that say it’s a risk because of his neck and such – the NFL is a multi-billion dollar business – with great risk can come great reward (or disastrous failure – it happens!).

    Regardless where Alex ends up – wish him well. He has been stand up and been through a lot – given consistency in coaching and system, I think he could be a pretty good, and maybe VERY good QB.

    For myself – been a Tampa Bay fan for many years…and…well…guess the bright spot is that TB HAS been worse…..?

  175. pappert says: Mar 19, 2012 7:38 AM

    14 -3 ?

    so you gave him his playoff win but not his playoff loss LOL

  176. mogreen62 says: Mar 19, 2012 8:25 AM

    If Alex wasn’t that good then why would SF put a contract in front of him paying him that much money? $8m for a backup role. Alex Smith for the length of his career has had terrible offensive coaching and game planning. He has all the talent to be very good if given the right coaching. Joe Philbin and Mike Sherman KNOW quaterbacks. Losing out on Matt Flynn is not a bad thing. Joe Philbin knows more about Matt Flynn’s talents than anyone, including the sports writers. There was a reason why we let him leave. AND yes,the dolphins didn’t want him, not the other way around. Flynn’s was money hungry and was chasing money instead of proving himself first. If he had confidence in himself, he would have signed an incentive aden contract first, with a coach who worked with you for 4 years. Instead he opted for guarunteed money which to me is a red flag he is just covering his behind in the event he sucks…

  177. dolphincritic says: Mar 19, 2012 8:59 AM

    There is a long list of high profile deals that the Dolphins have screwed up; Flynn may or may not be the last in this continuing saga. His Green Bay coach didn’t think that he was worth the money Seattle shelled out. We will see.

    Alex Smith is worth more than Matt Flynn when you dismiss potential. Smith has been a starter for years and has earned his reputation. He only has one season where he lived up to his potential but Harbough was the his first good coach. Is Philbin good enough of a coach to keep Smith on tract? Will Dolphins management get the players needed to compliment Smith?

    Free agency hasn’t been exciting in Miami. We resigned out nose tackle but lost a good DE to the Rams and a RT prospect (Eric Winston) to KC. Oh, I almost forgot, we picked up a back up CB and a guard who are supposed to compete with the bottom feeders on the Dolphins roster. Very exciting!

    Matt Moore had a good QB rating for a guy stuck on a bad team. We still need a top tier WR, RT, & TE to compliment whomever the QB is. On defense, we need a DB, either a CB or a safety, because Sean Smith can play either position. We would probably like to have a top Left OLB or DE to supercharge the pass rush. Without that big name WR, I am not sure that Alex Smith is going to make a difference. We probably should have worked a little harder getting that RT.

    I feel another 8-8 season coming on with an overpaid QB and a rookie RT and no big name WR. I guess I can always look at the Red Carpet and be proud. Hey Alex! Did they tell you about the Red Carpet?

  178. tombrookshire says: Mar 19, 2012 9:24 AM

    Smith is a product of the system. Never had success before, and will likely revert with any other team and system.

  179. dolphins4 says: Mar 19, 2012 10:03 AM

    Every free agent the Dolphins miss out on makes them look that much worse.

  180. tformation says: Mar 19, 2012 10:40 AM

    Shrewd move by the Fins, honestly. Making SF pay for their interest in Manning.

    As for Smith, if he’s using the Fins as a negotiating tool, who could blame him? If Alex Smith isn’t just playing the Fins, perhaps a change of scenery is what the doctor ordered.

  181. gmen1987 says: Mar 19, 2012 11:11 AM

    Thumbs up if the Dolphins contacted you to be their QB.

  182. mackie66 says: Mar 19, 2012 11:30 AM

    David Garrard is coming to dinner, in Miami. This just keeps getting weirder and weirder by the minute. Ireland/Ross were willing to pay Manning, an old, injured QB, 25 mil a yr, but wont pay Flynn, a yound, non injured, good QB 8 mil. Now Alex Smith is on the board for 8 mil a yr. Smith is young, non injured, good QB of some fame. Will Ireland/Ross sign him, I dought it. I dont think theres on brain cell amoung the two Ireland/Ross. Tomorrow Ill read where Philpin as noticed that hes made a terrible mistake by taking the HC job in Dolphinland and is walking back to Green Bay as the new ball boy.
    Ive been a Dolphin fan since 1966, but today is my last day. Im tired of reading the dailey Dolphin bad news report.

  183. havok28 says: Mar 19, 2012 11:37 AM

    @ krazykaosklown

    I in no way meant the media during last season. I’m talking about the media now..

  184. redblue560 says: Mar 19, 2012 12:39 PM

    Too many post about QB situation but little on the big picture.

    I think the 49ers are interested with Peyton Manning from the start but do not want to make it known publicly because they are afraid to piss off Alex Smith if PM says not interested. So they offered a deal to Alex Smith in good faith just in case.

    Now that PM have shown interest, they are not afraid to piss off Alex Smith. They can do that now because I believe, the other teams PM are interested in are maybe 2-3 years away from being a superbowl quality team. 49ers are just a few minor tuning away from winning a 2nd SB ring for PM to be not upstaged by Eli’s 2 rings.

    But there is more to this. the 49ers and NYG are in the same conference, both teams potentially can meet twice in a season, what a media hype this will be, brother matchup game anytime both teams play, specially if this happens to be an NFC championship.

    Now, let’s say 49ers go to superbowl, play againsts New England with Tom Brady at QB, 49ers win. You know how much bigger media hype this will be, talk about PM legacy, etc., etc., about Football history record books that will probably stay unbreakable for many years to come. Only QB beat by brothers, or better yet, only QB beat by brothers on consecutive Superbowls.

    It could also be the other way around, Brady’s revenge for loosing to Eli twice.

    Watching both Mannings play, there is some mention of their father, Archie Manning’s football history, I think PM wants to have his own history and NFL legacy that being cut by Indy, after what he brought to the team is not the one. The superbowl win scenario above is better.

    I think Peyton Manning will be a 49er.

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