In Cleveland, talk of Colt McCoy this year and Matt Barkley next year

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It’s a sad thing for a fan base to be thinking ahead to the first overall pick in an NFL draft that’s 13 months away, but in Cleveland there’s already talk that the best option for a Browns franchise quarterback may be USC’s Matt Barkley in the 2013 draft.

The Browns have had a Top 7 pick in the first round for four years in a row, by virtue of going either 4-12 or 5-11 each of the last four years, and unless they take Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill this year, they won’t have used any of those Top 7 picks on quarterbacks. Even though they need a quarterback. So Steve Doerschuk of the Canton Repository notes that that with the Browns missing out on trading up for Robert Griffin III, and not signing a free agent quarterback, it may be down to doing the best they can to build around Colt McCoy this year, with an eye toward drafting Barkley next year if things don’t work out with McCoy.

It’s obviously way too soon to say how next year’s NFL draft will play out, but Barkley will head into the 2012 college football season as the early favorite to be the top pick. And the Browns obviously hope McCoy will turn out to be a good starting quarterback who can lead them to more than five wins for the first time since 2007.

But in this offseason’s game of quarterback musical chairs, the Browns look like they’re going to be left standing when the music stops. And that would leave them stuck with what they have this year, and hoping things turn out differently next year.

112 responses to “In Cleveland, talk of Colt McCoy this year and Matt Barkley next year

  1. Still have to trade with Ram’s for their Washington pick… hopefully you know the drill by next year..

  2. Only here in Cleveland do people talk about the next year’s draft before the current draft. Boy am I getting really sick of this.

    We are always going to be known as ‘Wait for next year.’

  3. This is literally not the same franchise that I grew up rooting for.

    Thank you Art Modell, once again, for leaving town and leaving us with this franchise that is nothing but rudderless suck.

  4. This is all part of Cleveland’s 20-year-plan to make the playoffs. It’s good to have a plan.

  5. hey,

    i love cleveland browns fans,

    real ppl, real football minds , big hearts.

    that being said –

    the team can not put the fans thru another lame duck season ,

    it seems thats the case EVERY YEAR

    make moves now – get a VET QB , give the team and fans A LEGIT CHANCE at making the playoffs,

    nothing worse as a football fan, when ur team is mathamatically eliminated after week 10 of the NFL season.

  6. There will be more than just Barkley at QB coming out of the draft. A few QBs returned this year and will be available as well as some Jr.s leaving.

  7. How do they guarantee that Barkley will be there for them? Will they suck for Barkley? They really can’t count on anything in next year’s draft and they blew an opportunity this year for RG3.

    Let’s face it, the Browns are doomed.

  8. That’s absolutely ridiculous to suggest. How do you know that Colt won’t have a great year? Maybe the Browns will make the playoffs? This years draft hasn’t even happened yet, and I doubt the Browns will sacrifice next season to get Matt Barkley.

  9. It’s not like McCoy is HORRIBLE or anything and if they are going all in on a 1st rounder at QB next year doesn’t it make sense to put some skill players around him first? Look what Wash is doing for RGIII.

  10. noway possible the Browns can finish lower than the fins this year, back off he’s ours. If no FA wants to come to Miami because if Ireland were just gonna have to make a rookie come by drafting him.

    fIRELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. I don;t think the Browns wer ereally dancing in the musical chair/qb game. They tried to cut in line, their dance partner already had their eyes on someone (Rams on Redskins) and so they left the dance hall.

  12. Based on what’s came out of USC….not sold on them as a Quarterback Factory. Barkley is not the answer. In any draft over the last 5 years he would have been the second best QB. He may not be the best next year. I’m selling this….

  13. I don’t think this is the reality. Cleveland fans don’t want Barkley, maybe the reporters do.

  14. It’s not the Browns who are talking about this – it’s a reporter in Canton. Big difference.

  15. Yeah, just go get Barkley next year…They have the 4th pick and they still couldn’t get Luck OR RG3 this year. The only way to absolutely lock up Barkley is to lose every game this year. Good luck with that.

  16. This is foolish. Even if you win 3 games next year, you may not have the # 1 pick and then you might miss out on Barkley.

    This is the counterpoint to the Redskins “overpaying.”

  17. With as dysfunctional as my Dolphins are they are not even talking about next years draft. In fact, I don’t know that they’re talking about this years draft. Good to see that maybe there is a team worse off than us. I think Stephen Ross still thinks there’s a chance to land Sir Peyton.

  18. McCoy had ZERO weapons last year, thats right ZERO!! Not saying he is a franchise guy but damn he was put in a bad situation. Not to mention his O-Line with the exception of Thomas and Mack was atrocious. The poor kid was on his ass after a three step drop!

    Lets not forget the “Drama Queen” Hillis and the lack of running game. He was in a lose/lose situation.

  19. kidcleveland77 says:
    Mar 19, 2012 9:04 AM

    This is literally not the same franchise that I grew up rooting for.

    Thank you Art Modell, once again, for leaving town and leaving us with this franchise that is nothing but rudderless suck.

    __________________________

    Yes, thank you Art!

    Signed,
    Raven Fans everywhere

  20. This is a little premature. If Manning goes to Tennessee, you’d better believe that Holmgren will go after Hasselbeck.

    I could also see the Browns packaging their 22nd pick to move up mid first round to get Tannehill.

  21. Colts little brother, MiniPony, will be available next year. And with their second round pick the Browns can draft Braylon ‘hands of stone’ Edwards brother, No Hands.

  22. If we go into the regular season with our current QBs, we’ll definitely be picking in the top 7 again. Considering that our schedule is tougher this year, maybe more like top 3.

  23. I’m not gonna kick this fanbase. They deserve better. This franchise has let them down. Am I the only one that thinks Tannehill is McCoy 2.0? You drafted McCoy… Give him a chance! I hate the new NFL where you are a failure if you don’t play well after 1 season. It was funny whem it was the Raiders. Now the whole league has caught the fever. Cleveland is not gonna build through free agency. Therefore they must draft well. BTW… Draft some protection for your QB and give him a chance to succeed. Your fans have waited long enough!

  24. Cleveland and Miami will be fighting for 0-16…

    The best game of the year will be when Miami visits Cleveland and the game ends in a 0-0 tie because neither team wants to go 1-15 and lose Barkley.

  25. Name a USC QB taken high in the draft that has been better than average? Palmer? NOT, Leinert? NOT Cassel? NOT Sanchez? HELL NO! Booty?? Not even in the league. What makes ANYONE think Barkley is going to be any better?

  26. The Browns would have to work hard to get that number one pick, that Defence is getting close to being elite. McCoy should be given more time too, its hard to slate a guy whose receivers get as open as a nuns thighs and whose run game was, well I dont know what Hills was doing but it wasn’t racking up the yards.

  27. Any talk of looking for anythig that far in the future, not being of a successful ending,. That team should be penalized costly and purged of high draft picks. There fans do not deserve hearing any ot that.

  28. It’s too bad teams can’t develop players anymore.

    I honestly believe Colt McCoy will be the next Drew Brees … undersized, takes a couple of years to develop, then just as his team drafts his replacement high in the first round, he breaks out into greatness.

    Maybe this time when it happens the Dolphins will actually go with the right QB choice … Zing!

  29. “We are always going to be known as ‘Wait for next year.”

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    Now you’re flirting with “Wait for the year after next year.”

  30. bikeman99 says:
    Mar 19, 2012 9:07 AM
    They really can’t count on anything in next year’s draft and they blew an opportunity this year for RG3.
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    Blew an opportunity? 3 firsts and a high 2nd? That’s insane for any player. I’d rather the Browns draft 2 WRs and 1 RB, and pick up a FA WR.

    McCoy has been through 2 OCs and 2 HCs in his first2 years. I still believe the key to getting the Browns upright again is building a team with some consistancy. They need to stop blowing this team up every 3-4 years. Build the team with what draft picks you have, and replace the guys that aren’t up to snuff. Don’t give up the farm for one player. It’s not time to do that yet. If next season is a losing season, there is always the next great QB in the draft every year.

  31. So basically ONLY Steve Doerschuk is talking about this. And he wrote it in the linked article that is no longer available. I’m not going to pretend that things are going well in Cleveland currently, but come on . . . Do all you casual NFL fans really think the Browns will “suck for Barkley?” Nope. They’ll just plain suck while trying there hardest and slowly improve through the draft. And I mean SLOWLY, since free agency seems out of the question . . .

  32. Matt Barkley doesn’t have the physical skill set of neither Luck nor RGIII. He will be just another USC QB who washes out in the pros. Cleveland would be just getting another weak armed QB.

  33. It’s too bad the Browns can’t just sit out this season, it would save their fans some heartache, and headache.

  34. psuravens19 says:
    Mar 19, 2012 9:20 AM
    Yes, thank you Art!

    Signed,
    Raven Fans everywhere
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    Idiot wharf rat fans. Art’s team also won the NFL championship the year he bough the Browns. After that is was always ‘close but no cigar’. Does that sound familiar yet?

  35. I’m guessing firing Bill Belichick and the succession of coaches who have followed him doesn’t look so hot now!

    Enternally greatful,

    Patriots Nation

  36. What ever happened to the team that battled John elway in the championship games. It’s a damn shame that team went to Baltimore and continues to be a winner and browns are stuck with this trash team. If the NFL is a brand and the teams are just part of the brand then why doesn’t GODdell punish teams that are truly mismanaged like te two turds in Ohio for tarnishing the brand. When you own a burger king franchise burger king corporate still holds audits and I you fall out of compliance they have the right to pull your franchise. That would make too much sense

  37. Whoops. Before one of the grammar Nazis sees it, make that “grateful”. Alright, downright euphoric. And just think, he offended Cleveland fans basically for sitting down Bernie Kozar and replacing him with Vinny Testaverde. I guess that tradition has carried into the present and everyone in Cleveland has difficulty in evaluating quarterbacks. Too bad. Great franchise – at least it was, historically – and loyal fanbase who desire better.

  38. tatatoothy says:
    Mar 19, 2012 9:31 AM
    It’s too bad teams can’t develop players anymore.

    I honestly believe Colt McCoy will be the next Drew Brees … undersized, takes a couple of years to develop, then just as his team drafts his replacement high in the first round, he breaks out into greatness.

    Maybe this time when it happens the Dolphins will actually go with the right QB choice … Zing!
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    Get off the drugs, Goobs

  39. This post is a joke. One dopey writer says this in Cleveland and you guys treat it as newsworthy of your site.

    Is that all you do – repeat every asinine comment made by the media in NFL cities?

  40. Heres the thing I dont get ..as MANY early first -third round picks as the Browns have had since coming back to Cleveland…I just cant understand how a team can be so bad and draft so badly on a yearly basis. The NFL is set up so that teams like the Browns are only bad for a few years but then betweeen early draft picks to get the best players and with F/A, no reason at all for them to be in the mess they have been in and will be for another 5 years.

  41. Don’t worry, they’ll be so confident in their ability to trade up next offseason with the package they present, that they’ll be too complacent to realize that they’ve been outbid by the Dolphins. In order to make this deal, the Dolphins (learning from the Redskins) will hire the best friend of the coach and/or GM of the team with the 1st overall pick. This will once again cause Holmgren much consternation as he whines to the media about how unfair the offseason is, and that each team who doesn’t win the Super Bowl should get a participation trophy.

  42. I think the “football minds” in Cleveland make bad enough decisions without help from an idiotic media outlet proposing Matt Barkley before they even have this years draft.
    The Browns are in bad enough shape due to poor ownership. Keep your ignorant media thoughts to yourself!! It is tough enough being a Browns fan without idiotic reporting like this.

  43. Barkley might as well end up at the Clowns. He’s another sc QB loser and he will fit right in there.

  44. This sounds like a sportswriter/desperate fan plan – simply not based in reality. Too many variables. NFL coaches and execs don’t have enough job security to play for next year’s draft – not even in Cleveland. Too bad they missed on Griffin, but now they need to use the picks they kept and draft some athletes who can take the football to the endzone.

  45. Dumbest franchise ever. Just get Colt some offensive help NOW and stop worrying about another QB. Idiots! Some teams will NEVER get to a SB with that type of ownership and management.

  46. Don’t get too excited Browns fines. As a Broncos fan I am quite confident the QB we are going to be stuck with can out suck the QB you are going to be stuck with.

  47. As a Browns fan, I hate to say this

    But I don’t see all the hype in Barkley in the first place?

    When you compare him to presvious USC quarterbacks that were worthy of a #1 pick, what puts him on their level?

    He’s nothing like Palmer and Leinert and he’s not ripping up the competition in the conefrence the way they did?

    The Browns need extraordinary to make a difference at the position and the offense, all B.S. aside, Barkley is good – but he’s far from exceptional and/or extraordinary.

  48. @clayton43: Amen, brother. Same sermon I’ve been preaching for YEARS. But the people in Berea are sleeping in the pews and ain’t hearing it.

  49. The Browns should trade their#22 plus a veteran star to move up to say #12 and take Tannehill. With your #4 take Blackmon or an OL. Then you have a base of young talent to move into your future with.

  50. clayton43 says:
    Mar 19, 2012 10:01 AM
    Heres the thing I dont get ..as MANY early first -third round picks as the Browns have had since coming back to Cleveland…I just cant understand how a team can be so bad and draft so badly on a yearly basis.
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    Actually, the Browns drafts have not been so bad lately. Joe Thomas has been in the pro bowl every year. Alex Mack is a solid center. Joe Haden and TJ Ward look to be long time starters.

    The problem is impatience. The Browns have been blowing up the team every 3-4 years and starting over. Every new coach/FO combination wants their guy at QB, RB, WR, DL, OL, ect. They need to stick with a plan an carry it through instead of changing everything every few years. As I stated earlier, Colt McCoy has had 2 HCs, 2 OCs and 2 QB coaches in the 2 years he’s been in the league. How the hell do you find any success doing that to a team?

  51. Plenty of reasons to dump on the Browns organization, but this was a cheap shot and totally unnecessary. One hack writes about the draft next year and this is somehow the position of the organization? Come on, PFT, you don’t need to dig this deep to find something negative about Cleveland.

  52. I’d rather see Charles Barkley play QB. for the Browns. This kid is overhyped, Mccoy will be a pro bowl QB. before its all said and done.

  53. It’s been said already but that is why I wanted to comment…yeah USC isn’t really known for its QBs. I can’t think of the last one that came out that was any good…we have seen what Sanchez, Booty, Leinart and Palmer are capable of and to be honest…it isn’t much. I would also like to throw something out there…I wouldn’t be surprised to see some other QB come to the front of the pack next year; Heisman talk etc. It does happen.

    All of this being said, I would hope the teams and fans are focused on this draft and this season. That is why it is such a great game and why we are fans in the first place, isn’t it? I can’t wait to see how it all shakes out. Come on September!

  54. Wow, normally the Browns wait until at least week 3 before giving up on the entire season. Sounds like this time they’re ending the suspense early and giving up prior to the pre-season?

    Man o man do I miss the days of the Steelers/Browns rivalry.

  55. Only in f@&$ing Cleveland. Love my city. Love my Browns. This is ridiculous. I agree with Jenniferxxx – a “20 year plan to make the playoffs.”

    The NFL has changed. Teams are turning it around in a couple years. I just think Holmgen and the rest of Bob Lamonte’s guys in the front office will not adjust their “system” or “process” to today’s NFL climate.

    Frustrating.

  56. @sudz28: Yeah, we Browns fans are giving up on the 2012 season a little earlier than usual this year. It’s called “being realistic.” Now that we know we aren’t getting a new QB, why wait? We’ve seen this movie before.

    There is no Steelers/Browns rivalry, by the way. It’s more like a twice-annual date of execution.

  57. bensstinkyfingers says:
    Mar 19, 2012 11:09 AM
    I’d rather see Charles Barkley play QB. for the Browns. This kid is overhyped, Mccoy will be a pro bowl QB. before its all said and done.
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    Your team president, supposedly one of the best judges of QB talent in NFL history, tried to make a deal to move up in the draft to replace him.

    You call Barkley “overhyped”, then follow that up stating that Colt will be a pro bowl QB in the future. Now that’s irony.

  58. As a Browns fan I think we all love our players but hate the ownership. As soon as we get a star player that deserves more money they get rid of them. Hillis should have gotten a new contract last year and all of that drama wouldn’t have happened. Now he’s gone. Our last good season was when we had Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr… both Pro Bowlers… but as soon as we had a 10-win season with them they were booted out for cheaper players. The fans will always sell out the stadium no matter who is playing and we will always be watching on Tv.

    We are being taken advantage of by the ownership.

  59. been a Browns fan for many years, but am drifting away….sad really….I had hoped Holmgren would bring a winning attitude to the Browns organization, but what is the damn plan!? Let Hillis walk, no free agency pick ups at WR, Colt McCoy throwing behind everyone? This is maddening.

  60. Browns are cheap. I bet Alex Mack will gone, they won’t pay him. Its like when their draft picks pan out they get upset. lol. they don’t wanna pay anyone.

  61. What happened to all the Browns fans who insisted they didn’t want RG3 because they were content to “get Colt some weapons” and “build around Colt”?

  62. Its a shame to see the “business only” side of a franchise in a true football town. Owners and GMs know how to win. Yet some owners clearly spend only what they have to, fill the positions as needed with anyone they can find, and pocket the profits. The GMs do what their told and collect their salaries. I feel bad for Cleveland, and I am going to root for them as my 2nd team as of right now.

  63. Any QB is going to struggle with that JV cast of receiving targets. Mass is not a #1 receiver. Neither is Little. However, with the right threat on the side of him, Little could definitely be the #2 WR. As it stands, with the crew of receivers they have, no QB can succeed. At least ADDRESS the issue. A bunch of 3rd, 4th, and 5th round receivers will not get you anywhere. Until the WR issue is ironed out, the Browns will struggle.

  64. Only here in Cleveland do people talk about the next year’s draft before the current draft. Boy am I getting really sick of this.

    We are always going to be known as ‘Wait for next year.’

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    Obviously you haven’t met Lions fans.

    In 09 it was suggested by many a fan to draft Jason Smith, with the full intention of sucking, and getting Bradford the next year. Those fans didn’t even want Curry because they were frightened that he might help them win an extra game or two.

    Prime position to draft a QB with the #1 pick and they wanted the Lions to go into 09 targeting the next #1 pick.

  65. Tannehill is nothing like McCoy, and McCoy is nothing like Brees. Tannehill is built like a proto-typical NFL quarterback. McCoy is not. McCoy made big plays with his legs in college, but he can’t do that in the NFL…too much speed on NFL defensive fronts.
    How is Barkely better than Tannehill? I don’t see it.

  66. I don’t think Browns fans should dislike the owner. Randy Lerner does what a good owner should do — he opens his checkbook when asked and he doesn’t meddle in football decisions. The problem is that the guys making the football decisions just aren’t showing any evidence of progress. In the past 4 years the team has gone 5-11, 4-12, 5-11, 4-12. And now they can’t even get a new QB when it’s clear that one is needed. Do you see any sign of progress? I sure don’t.

  67. Say what you will about Colt McCoy, I’d rather watch him for another year than try to trade for Tebow, now that Manning seems to be going to Denver.

    Just say no to Tebow.

  68. Just cuz he’s the top prospect does not mean that the Browns will have to suck to get him. To be honest, the Browns are putting together a very young and talented team and I expect to see several new weapons in this draft on offense. Even if they don’t play like shat for matt, we can always trade up like washington did and get whichever QB we want. Matt Barkley, maybe Landry Jones or Tyler Bray.

  69. As soon as Canton Repository was mentioned I stopped reading..If anyone has read this paper they will understand why. Let me reassure you that we as Browns fans have no interest in another terrible season to increase our draft position. Maybe this conversation takes place in November but the Repository is filling space with giberish like always

  70. Acquire RG3- WHIFF! Matt Flynn- WHIFF! Veteran QB-Whiff! The lack of action in Cleveland by the front office is a joke! Good luck Colt!

  71. Name a USC QB taken high in the draft that has been better than average? Palmer? NOT, Leinert? NOT Cassel? NOT Sanchez?
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    i dont base things on schools. look at Tennessee, name me another QB besides Manning who played well??? what about Baylor??? i dont base arguments on that. Barkley isnt Palmer, he’s REALLY not Leinart, he’s no Cassel and he’s also really is NOT Sanchez. i think Barkley’s arm is better than Sanchez’s and much better than Leinart’s.

    another thing, i think Palmer WAS better than average. Before his injury bug bit him, he was having great years and Cassel wasnt picked high, he was a backup at USC and was drafted in a later round.

    anyways, he likely will be the top pick, but it’s not a suck for Luck type of deal because if Bray comes out, he will be looked at, if Tyler Wilson or Jones have great years, then they could take that spot from him too.

  72. What’s QB Troy Smith doing nowdays with his Heisman? Wasn’t he willing to lowcrawl to Cleveland? Well??

  73. Barkley ain’t Luck. Not even close.

    Wait, why the f*&K are we even discussing this?

    You’re either with us(BROWNS FANS)or you’re against us. No in betweens.

    Matt Barkley!?!?

  74. McCoy is a great talent. The Browns just keep making no moves or bad ones. Get McCoy a OL and a few playmakers. And when you get them PAY them, unlike Hillis. Like him or not he is a great runner and better receiver and was never used as that. Watch him tear up the league this year with someone that will use him right.

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