To me, the “winners” are the ones who actively make efforts to recruit new players, but are careful about getting into bidding wars and/or overpaying for talent when there are viable less-expensive alternatives available. They are not the teams who, as part of their overall strategy, choose not to be very active in the process.

Seattle got the most-mentioned-name in QB free agency who wasn’t Peyton Manning, and they did so without commiting to a franchise-QB size contract. QB was a huge area of need, and it has been addressed without sacrificing a draft pick or hamstringing the team’s salary cap for the next six years. Also, getting Flynn instead of waiting for the draft allows the team to focus all their draft resources dealing with other areas of need. Simply put, this has to be one of the top-five moves in free-agency this year.

It is true that Flynn may not work out….but the same is true for Luck, RG3, and every other QB in the draft.

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Thank you for your insight “Bruh” but I wasn’t “hatin” on your team, I was simply speaking the truth. First you are absolutly correct; I have not won a single superbowl and I never have. I did however, win a company kickball tournament a few years back and I make a very competitive push in softball every year. How many superbowls have you won?

If your speaking of my favorite football team then you are wrong, they have won a superbowl. If your memory goes back far enough to remember a Redskins championship then I am sure you remember teh 2000 superbowl.

So the skins are “obviously rebuilding”… when did this rebuilding start? The last time the skins won more than 10 games was 1991; in that time frame (20 years) they have had a winning record 6 times, one of those 6 was an 8 win season where they finished 8-7-1. They have made 4 playoff apperences in those 20 years (Ravens have made 4 playoff apperences in the past 4 years) and they have won 3 playoff games in those 20 years. Did the “Rebuilding” start when Shanahan came to town? That is what I kept hearing from deadskin fans, well the team was 6-10 followed by 5-11 the past 2 seasons with him for a total record of 11-21. Since Harbaugh (and Flacco) came to town (taking over from a 5-11 team) Baltimore is 44-20 with a division championship and two AFC Championship appearences in 4 years. They have won at least 1 playoff game every year he has been there. I think my team is doing fine, I would say your team should be a little concerned.

You indicate players lost:
Grubbs is the biggest loss, he missed 6 games last year and the Ravens were 5-1 in those 6. The Ravens get stuck in situations like this because they draft so well they get a lot of money tied up in Ngata, Suggs, Lewis, Yanda, Reed, etc… and can’t afford to keep everyone.

Johnson and Redding already have replacements waiting; McPhee and Kruger. They wouldn’t have left so easy and so cheap if they didn’t believe in they guys on the roster. It happens every year, last year it was Mason, Heap, Kelly Gregg, LeRon McClain. Everyone thinks it’s the end of the world then they realize that role players can be replaced when you have cornerstones like Suggs and Ngata on your team.

McClain had a good solid year, nobody is shedding a tear if he leaves. Would like to see him stay but how are Tavaress Gooden, Bart Scott, Ed Hartwell, or Jamie Sharper doing? This was Jmac’s first year starting in Baltimore and his is in a long line of guys who played next to Ray. If lost he will be missed, but replaced. By the way he left Denver without signing and they have already signed another LB along with this quarterback guy who kinda cost a lot of money. Not sure if JMac will be in Denver this year….

Nakamura…… really? Depth is nice and we as a good player but we are supposed to lose sleep over losing a backup safety and special teams player? Good call buddy.

I think the team wint a 26 year old QB and 25 year old RB both about to sign long term contracts is fine. I would guess that the team that has been to the playoffs 4 straight seasons, won the division (6-0 in the division) in arguably the best division in football is fine. My guess is that there is no, non redskin fan on this site who would say the skins are run better than the ravens. My guess is that there is a little jelousy down I-95. Don’t worry, you can keep living on those championships that were won before you were born… that will help your envy.

So again… Skins suck

When did the skins last make the postseason? The Superbowl? Yeah, I thought so.

It always amazes me that fans will throw out that the Ravens only have one Superbowl. You do realizes that the organization is not even 20 years old?

Championships
Wins and Loses
Revenue
Ticket Sales/Attendance
Stadium
Franchise value
Free Agency
Draft

The Skins are definitely winners, they did what they had to do and that is get a franchise QB and some receivers. But they definitely need to shore up their offensive line and get a safety/corner, although free agency isn’t over and we also have the draft.

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How do they shore up the Oline and get a saftey/corner after paying Garcon 45 Million? They wasted half of the salary cap in Garcon/Morgan/Merriweather, not to mention the picks over the next 3 years the lost to get RGIII. Oh yea, you also have to pay RGIII so save some room there, not that he can get Sam Bradford money anymore but you still not getting away wtih 1 mil or 2 for him.

That is why the are losers, I was hopefull that the Ravens would get Garcon thinking “He’s not the best out there but he’s a solid number 2 and they should be able to grab him for 6-9 million over a few years.” Then I saw him sign for 45 Million and my jaw hit the floor, I thought the article accedentally put his name in instead of Vincent Jackson.

Redskins suck”

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Damn bruh, don’t hate, I wasn’t hatin’ on your old ass team the Ravens but since you started running your mouth I will. Hell you lost LB Jarret Johnson, DE Cory Redding, G Ben Grubbs and S Haruki Nakamura and you may lose Jamell McClain to Denver, your 1st round QB still can’t get it done and you haven’t won but 1 Superbowl and you’re hating on the Skins? C’mon man! If I were you I’d be more concerned with the Ravens than the Skins. Obviously this team is rebuilding, you should concentrate on hoping your team can win an AFC playoff game when it counts!

So they didn’t “give up” three first round picks, they “gave up” two so that they could use and keep one first round pick. If they “gave up” three first round picks, they wouldn’t have a pick left to take Griffin.
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They will still have their 2012 1st round pick once the draft is over though, it will be represented on their roster in the form of whoever they pick.
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No, no, and no. Skins fans keep playing semantic games but the facts remain unchanged. You had a #6 pick this year, and you don’t have it now. The #6 pick will not be represented on your roster. The #2 pick will. You have up your #6, next year’s 1st round, and the 1st rounder for the year after that. Plus a second. You gave them up. How do I know you have them up? Because you don’t have them anymore.

You’re ignoring the fact that position has value. The #6 pick is more valuable than the #7. The #2 is more valuable than the #6. They’re not “swapped” because they don’t have the same value. They’re not both $20 bills. One is stock in Apple, the other is stock in Enron. If you traded a share of Enron and a bunch of other stuff for a share of Apple, you’re not just giving up the other stuff and “swapping” shares. Values are different. If it was as simple as swapping, implying the same value, you wouldn’t have needed the other picks to sweeten the pot.

Hell, all of that is irrelevant anyway. You had the #6, you don’t now. So you gave it up. You keep trying to make this seem like a shrewd deal, or like you need to somehow make it seem less ridiculously overpaid, and you’re failing.

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So, I’m a Cowboys fan…and I have to say your logic is a little off.

I don’t like the Redskins at all, but to say they didn’t “swap” their 1st round picks this year is wrong.

If im driving a Pinto, and somebody wants it…and they give me their Porche 911….we still swapped cars. The other picks in later drafts, yes…they gave up but that has nothing to do with your argument that they didnt swap picks this year. To make it out like they didn’t swap picks this year is a little insane. Just because one is more valuable than the other doesn’t change anything.

8. Loser: Vikings
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Nuff said!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

duece5 says:

I thought the packers were the losers……at 15-1, the FIRST TEAM IN NFL HSTORY TO GET DRILLED AND LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS!!!

EPIC FAIL!!!!!

LMAO…..

Pukes= DISCOUNT DOUBLE CHOKE!!!!!!!

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If and only if by “greener pastures” you mean money, because there aren’t many better situations in the NFL than what’s going on in Baltimore. Ravens are beast and the org is beast. Ozzie doesn’t care, he just says next man up. Just remember that we were basically in the Super Bowl with another half second of Lee Evans holding the ball.

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How do they shore up the Oline and get a saftey/corner after paying Garcon 45 Million? They wasted half of the salary cap in Garcon/Morgan/Merriweather, not to mention the picks over the next 3 years the lost to get RGIII. Oh yea, you also have to pay RGIII so save some room there, not that he can get Sam Bradford money anymore but you still not getting away wtih 1 mil or 2 for him.

That is why the are losers, I was hopefull that the Ravens would get Garcon thinking “He’s not the best out there but he’s a solid number 2 and they should be able to grab him for 6-9 million over a few years.” Then I saw him sign for 45 Million and my jaw hit the floor, I thought the article accedentally put his name in instead of Vincent Jackson.

Redskins suck

Completely consistent with team philosophy.

Worked well so far.

Also, undrafted free agents know Green Bay is a place where they’ll get a true shot to make the team and play.

Case in point — Tori Gurley, a wide receiver, undrafted, who spent last year on the practice squad, turned down an offer during the season from another NFL team to get on its 54 man roster, and is looking good to make the team this year.

Competitive, maybe, but it only got him one ring and one additional appearance. Brees has the ring, I think he’d like more than to just be in one more Super Bowl. (As would the rest of the Saints organization.)

Nuff said!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

So they didn’t “give up” three first round picks, they “gave up” two so that they could use and keep one first round pick. If they “gave up” three first round picks, they wouldn’t have a pick left to take Griffin.
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They will still have their 2012 1st round pick once the draft is over though, it will be represented on their roster in the form of whoever they pick.
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No, no, and no. Skins fans keep playing semantic games but the facts remain unchanged. You had a #6 pick this year, and you don’t have it now. The #6 pick will not be represented on your roster. The #2 pick will. You have up your #6, next year’s 1st round, and the 1st rounder for the year after that. Plus a second. You gave them up. How do I know you have them up? Because you don’t have them anymore.

You’re ignoring the fact that position has value. The #6 pick is more valuable than the #7. The #2 is more valuable than the #6. They’re not “swapped” because they don’t have the same value. They’re not both $20 bills. One is stock in Apple, the other is stock in Enron. If you traded a share of Enron and a bunch of other stuff for a share of Apple, you’re not just giving up the other stuff and “swapping” shares. Values are different. If it was as simple as swapping, implying the same value, you wouldn’t have needed the other picks to sweeten the pot.

Hell, all of that is irrelevant anyway. You had the #6, you don’t now. So you gave it up. You keep trying to make this seem like a shrewd deal, or like you need to somehow make it seem less ridiculously overpaid, and you’re failing.

Problem solved

-QG

Saints replaced nicks with grubbs, kept colston, and only really lost meachem who is very replaceable. Not signing brees is tough but it will get done so its not really a big worry. All things considered this was a decent turn to a potentially disasterous exodus.
Think they’re about to sign Brokerick Bunkely at NT.

Packers got worse at OL, backup QB, and didnt’ address their weak pass rush.