Comments on: David Garrard unsure who he’s competing with in Miami

By: tfaulk

tfaulk — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:40:57 +0000

Tannehill is too much a reach at #8. They can’t count on Weeden as a 4th or 5th (which is what he’s worth with the risk of age — ‘though I think he’s ready to play)… So I hope they are content with Moore & Garrand as backup.

By: miriam45

miriam45 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:55:55 +0000

Dolphins always wanted Gerrard. They were not really interested in Manning,. Flynn, RGIII, Alex Smith,Tannehill.

As a Dolphin fan, I can stop going to games, burn mine and all my childrens jersey, but better yet I think I’ll just shoot myself

By: tangysizzl

tangysizzl — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:24:44 +0000

I just love the Dolphin fans who say Miami and Philbin had no interest in Flynn. If that was really the case then why even bring him to town.

No the truth is Joe Philbin doesn’t negotiate contracts, Ireland does and Ireland thought Flynn would choose the Dolphins over the Seahawks because of his connection with Philbin.

He might not have been as sold on Flynn as Philbin was but to say they somehow passed on Flynn with the lowball offer, your just lying to yourself.

As a Packer fan, I know what its like to have a GM that many people hate. Ted Thompson won a SB and his team just went 15-2 and you wouldn’t have to look far to find Packer fans who would still like to fire his ass.

Im not one of them.

By: theandy59

theandy59 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:22:25 +0000

QB/Coaching combo’s are about the biggest indicator of success in the NFL. Here’s how the AFC East stacks up:

Belichick-Brady
Ryan-Sanchez
Gailey-Fitzpatrick
Philbin-Garrard/Moore

Any questions about who’s finishing on top in 2012?
(It doesn’t seem fair, does it)

By: laxcoach37

laxcoach37 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:21:52 +0000

Knock it off you big bunch of “know it alls”. According to this verbage the Dolphins are so stupid when they signed Larry Johnson as a RB and Reggie Bush can’t be a between the tackles, every down back,, need I go on. Oh yeah, the Bills and the Bucs are going to win the SuperBowl because some hack Blogger titled them Winners in FA.

So, Larry Johnson was an experiment at pennies on the dollar, Bush shoved crow in everyones mouth and the Bills might more games, but we professional Opinionators forget ( purposefully or not) they still have to PLAY the damn Season. We shall see. I dont expect much from the Dolphins, but atleast we were fiscally responsible. Which got us in this situation . Players did not choose Miami because they could not compete financially. Case Closed. And YES get rid of Ireland because he does suck and it has nothing to do with his Dez Bryant – Prostitute comment, which again for the record is not as most of you keep repeating like a flock of unresearched followers. As for Joey Porter, he sucks and robbed the Fins. He was an underperforming overpaid player. He is the reason, we are here and gunshy to sign big name overpriced players.. , more than Ross/Ireland ! Sins of the past always catch up with you. Go pick on the Bengals? They have more money than any team and signed no one. Educate yourselves, then speak. I mean that more to the players speaking out than I do all of you, but it wouldnt hurt to learn something yourselves either. I wish I could badmouth my employer who gave me $millions and then tried to play the race-card (dBryant) as justification. Go run your drills, not your mouth.

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:03:07 +0000

Drafting Tannehill in the first round would be ten times dumber than signing Garrard was.

You can’t put a top ten grade on a second round talent just because you have a need at the position! Or because the guy who failed while coaching him in college happened to land on your staff!

This kind of stupid pretzel logic is what got the Dolphins in this position in the first place.

Garrard is a serviceable one year band aid who actually had a pretty good season in 2010 (64.5 completion percentage, 23/15 td/int, 90.8 rating).

Don’t compound the disaster of not getting the QBs you wanted to by squandering a top 10 pick on a reach like Tannehill.

You screwed up the QB search this year- deal with it. Take a deep breath. Don’t make a panic move that sets your team back another 5 years by drafting a QB who was only the 5th best IN HIS CONFERENCE last season.

By: mistrezzrachael

mistrezzrachael — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:50:33 +0000

mwcarolina says:Mar 20, 2012 10:37 AM

The QB the Phins are targeting is in the draft, and since he played for Sherman, he should already be ahead of the game in relation to other rookies
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all true, but who’s Tannehill going to throw to??? if they reach for Tannehill and yes it’s a reach, then who’s going to be catching for Tannehill?? will Jeffery fall into their laps?? or will he end up in Indy or St Louis??

GOOD POINT…BUT:

Name a college QB that didn’t win in college, that succeded in the NFL…Closest one was Trent Edwards,,,and where is he today???

Tannehill not the or even an answer..Hell, he got Sherman fired from college, and will do same in pros.

Dolphins should consider biting bullet, and trading # 8 pick in 1st round to NE…for Ryan Mallett..and yes, he can play…and yes, he’s been coached well.

By: udtfrogmanvet

udtfrogmanvet — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:41:42 +0000

David Garrard is a lot better than most people make him out to be. The only knock on him is he’s not a good long baller. He does have a strong arm, though. He will get the 3rd and shorts, too. Built like a fullback and hard to bring down. Real strong!
Don’t worry Fins fans, you’ll like him a lot. He never had the weapons in Jax and still took them to the playoffs. I was hoping that the Jags would’ve resigned him to be the backup, but sometimes you just have to move on. Watch this video and you’ll feel better about.

Good luck Dave, you are real class act! GO Jags!!!

By: mwcarolina

mwcarolina — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0000

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:35:53 +0000

@maxvain,
Well said. I agree completely. The roster was set up for success and they have systematically weakened it. The negativity is a stigma that is difficult to overcome. The team has (had) playmakers. What they lacked was true leadership. Moore is capable but is not a guy that can carry the team when necessary. Going after Peyton was fine but the damage via negative perception was enhanced. Garrard is a bandaid and tells me that they will draft a QB. It is likely Tannehill at 8 (if there) but Ireland likes to gamble and boost his ego/value by getting a “steal” in the draft. He has not been as bad as his reputation. He has drafted fairly well and there are some good young players on the roster. That said, he needs to go. His reputation among players/coaches/personnel people league-wide cannot be overcome and is damaging the franchise’s ability to get better. That combined with Ross’ perception of being only concerned with “entertainment”, celebrity and ticket sales make it nearly impossible to get a decent FA. This once proud franchise has been reduced to the laughing stock of the league. It is very hard to be a Dolphins fan. The future does not look much better. Ireland needs to go and Ross needs to stay out of the spotlight. I hope Ross is smart enough to see that.

By: fearthebengaltiger

fearthebengaltiger — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:25:57 +0000

a couple yearsx ago, playing fantasy football, i needed a qb for 1 week…..i loooked at the waiver wire and saw garrard……i needed 1 freaking point to win for the week, 1…….he threw an int on first play and was taken out…..i will never like garrard…..

By: dolphincritic

dolphincritic — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:12:40 +0000

Garrard is a 34 year old, overweight, fumbler (44 times & lost 21 of them) with a bad attitude. He used to scramble his way out of jams not pass his way out.

We got this guy because he is a has been. Last year would have been year-10. In fact, he could have played for the Dolphins, late in the 2010 season but turned us down. Garrard has no upside! He is not very coachable and runs his mouth. Matt Moore is clearly a back up but at least has the promise of getting better. Garrard will not get better, he might get hurt and go on IR but he will not get better.

Garrard should recognize that he is competing with father time as much as he is Matt Moore! Way to go Jeff Ireland! Another Miami First down!

By: dolphins4

dolphins4 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:01:04 +0000

Ireland was brought here to destroy the Dolphins and he is doing a pretty good job of it.

By: omgitskardashian

omgitskardashian — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:54:40 +0000

You would love the vibe in Miami too if they gave you a contract after a year of sitting out for back surgery and 5 miserable years of starts for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Fireland.

By: rip4gehrig

rip4gehrig — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:54:04 +0000

Garrard and competing shouldnt be used in the same sentence

By: southbeachtalent

southbeachtalent — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:49:20 +0000

meant to say Barkley, not “the” Barkley.

By: southbeachtalent

southbeachtalent — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:46:39 +0000

Even though Garrard does not set the world on fire, he will be a capable QB. I never understood the hate Garrard got. That being said, I can’t figure out what direction this team is going in? Are they rebuilding? Are they going for the present? (that would be a mistake). Who’s replacing Marshall? Yeremiah? Are we going to draft for all those needs? How about Tannehill?

Like I’ve said, I am extremely confused and discouraged but let’s let this play out. Ireland hasn’t earned the benefit of the doubt form us fans but we really have no option (unless we continue to fly banners at Sun Life!). I will not go near the stadium or buy any Dolphin paraphernalia until they turn this debacle around.

And then there’s always the Barkley….. And the cycle continues…..

By: fordraptorforum

fordraptorforum — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:41:17 +0000

Garrard “loves the vibe” because Miami is the only team that gave him the time of day. At the rate Jeff Ireland is going, he’ll probably bring in Curtis FingerPainter in on a $67 million dollar deal to compete with Garrard.

By: ernie ernie

ernie ernie — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:31:17 +0000

Ireland will bring in Tebow to but to play another position, what this is who knows? He is not a fast runner and not sure if he can even catch a pass?
I’m surprised Matt Moore is that bad. If Tebow comes Moore get cut.

By: tombrookshire

tombrookshire — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:27:43 +0000

Spoken by a guy who has always been a borderline journey and everyone’s second choice to lead their team, even though he has been fairly successful as a starter.

By: mrslay1

mrslay1 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:26:53 +0000

What losers. They just can’t do anything right. Maybe they will trade for Tebow and do something right!

By: mrcogburn

mrcogburn — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:22:55 +0000

You whining nancies need to pull your skirts off your faces. You are not professional GMs, so enough already with the handwringing. Garrard was signed as backup insurance. The QB the Phins are targeting is in the draft, and since he played for Sherman, he should already be ahead of the game in relation to other rookies. He is young, has never been cut by an NFL team, and (as far as we know) has never had a single with neck surgery. Is he franchise materiel? Time and the devil will tell.

By: tsep305

tsep305 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:18:51 +0000

I seriously hope Miami doesn’t draft Tannehill. Talk about wasting your first round pick. Your better off giving that 1st rounder to pittsburg for Mike Wallace. Tannehill is not a franchise QB. Miami needs a WR this year. More specifically Justin Blackmon or Michael Floyd. Anyone from Miami knows about Michael Floyd and how he dominated against the Hurricanes in the bowl a couple years ago.

By: mlmeier

mlmeier — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:11:54 +0000

David Garrard unsure *whom* he’s competing with in Miami

By: scyankee9999

scyankee9999 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:07:05 +0000

Please fans stop the bashing ( or atleast wait till after the draft) Truth be told, at least 70percent of posts from fans said that Moore deserved another shot. What happen? So we swung and missed on Manning, we have a coach who knows more about Flynn than any fan and didn’t think he was the answer. Garrard we wanted as a back up last year. He’s here and healthy. We added line depth and secondary help. Keep in mind our new DC has turned so rejects into good safeties. Let’s give them till after the draft or the minute they sign Tebow before we give up.
I know everyone is hating on the Phibs but what did Seattle really do? They overpaid for Flynn (cause their QB really sucks) and flew to Denver and couldn’t even get Manning to walk across the street to meet with them!
What hurts us is that the Fins open their big mouths saying we’ll spend what ever it takes. Take a page from the patriots and shut up management. Then at least it’ll sound like you have a secret plan.

By: ocho

ocho — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:54:15 +0000

andyo102 says:
Mar 20, 2012 7:11 AM
I am waiting for Jeff Ireland to take off his mask and we all find out that the GM is really Matt Millen. Never thought someone could be as bad or possibly worse of a GM

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Millen was the absolute worst he will never be matched. Vinny Cerrato still has a firm grip on #2 at the moment, but I can def see Ireland as #3.

By: tqaztec

tqaztec — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:50:54 +0000

Well David, the rest of us are unsure if you are even a capable QB.

By: nardointhenati

nardointhenati — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:50:28 +0000

I feel your frustration Miami fans.
Signed, A Bengals Fan

By: dspyank2k11

dspyank2k11 — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:44:38 +0000

So here is the Dolphin breakdown…

No receivers
A Checkdown QB
Solid O Line
Reggie

This screams 9 in the box defense and last place in the AFC East

By: neupower

neupower — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:29 +0000

Well at least I’m not the only one who is unsure….lol