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Discipline for Williams, Payton, Loomis coming soon

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After a lengthy investigation of the Saints’ bounty program, punishment for former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, head coach Sean Payton and General Manager Mickey Loomis is finally close to being announced.

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports that a decision on bounty discipline for all three men is expected to come down shortly.

Williams, who is now the Rams’ defensive coordinator, will almost certainly face the harshest discipline of all. He has admitted to overseeing the program of bounties, and the NFL says he lied to the league office about it when the investigation began. There’s been talk that he could be facing a year-long suspension.

It’s unclear what will happen to Payton and Loomis, both of whom are accused of failing to act when they found out about Williams’ bounty program. But NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is expected to crack down on them as well. The Saints as a franchise may be disciplined with a hefty fine or the forfeiture of draft picks.

Some current and former Saints players who took part in the bounty program may also be suspended, although the NFL may take longer, and perhaps confer with the players’ union, before making those announcements. Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma, who reportedly offered $10,000 to any player who could knock Brett Favre out of the NFC Championship Game, is believed to be the player who will face the harshest punishment.

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49 Responses to “Discipline for Williams, Payton, Loomis coming soon”
  1. myspaceyourface says: Mar 21, 2012 12:21 PM

    It better not exceed the spygate punishment. In my opinion spygate got a slap on the wrist.

  2. dublindemonszfl says: Mar 21, 2012 12:21 PM

    They should be put behind bars.

  3. jason1980 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:22 PM

    What’s the deal with the NFL, go ahead already and announce your punishment, for the love of God? I don’t understand this drip, drip, drip game they are playing. Let’s see if they can get maximum coverage , wait, let’s make sure all the stars are aligned.

  4. packerbackernj says: Mar 21, 2012 12:23 PM

    Lock them all in the stocks and allow us to throw rotten fruit at them while wearing “aints” bags on our heads.

  5. djran2002 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:24 PM

    I think the most fitting punishment (since everyone has moved on at this point) would be to let Zygi Wilf and Jim Irsay walk into Saints headquarters and stamp a giant asterisk into their Lombardi trophy.

  6. sophandros says: Mar 21, 2012 12:24 PM

    For how many games was Belichick suspended for SpyGate? Payton should not receive any more than that.

    BTW, I am well aware that Belichick was suspended for a grand total of zero games…

  7. conormacleod says: Mar 21, 2012 12:24 PM

    So soon?

  8. joetoronto says: Mar 21, 2012 12:25 PM

    They had to wait for the Peyton Manning news to clear.

  9. rgb2425 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:25 PM

    I feel like this storyline is on this site everyday.

  10. pooflingingmonkey says: Mar 21, 2012 12:26 PM

    All key players in this conspiracy will be punished, but Vilma will pay the steepest penalty, as he’ll be forced to watch the latest episode of Glee on a loop for two straight weeks.

  11. r0b1b0y says: Mar 21, 2012 12:26 PM

    I think Roman Harper will end up being the harshest penalized….smh…Goodell is an unhinged clown

  12. mobuccsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 12:27 PM

    I’m surprised they didn’t try to release the announcement for the punishment just minutes before the PM conference and all of the fall-out with Tebow. Would have been perfect planning on their part as a way to try and bury it some, as so many people are focused on those two topics right now. Granted they still are and will be for weeks, but Goodell and the NFL can’t be too happy about having to do any punishment in this regard. Yes, the game has been sissified a lot in recent years and hard hits/defense is what I’ve always loved…but…there is a fine-line between good hard hits/big plays and playing dirty trying to intentionally mess someone up. I know, there weren’t too many serious injuries as a result and I’m also certain that most teams have done or do practice this bounty type system, but the fact remains, they were caught, it is wrong and they have to have punishment for their actions or inaction for some of those involved.

    I think it is only right. I’m so sick of this nation as a whole, passing the buck and no-one stepping up to take the blame, be accountable and responsible for their own actions and decisions. It really is sickening. Couple that with large egos and the ultra arrogance many people portray, along with ignorance of things that is really happening in our country and in our world, and it really is hard to not feel ill. But that is another topic for another site/thread/blogspot…so back to this topic.

    I think Williams gets a year suspension and a large fine, Payton, four-games and a fine, Loomis, a large fine, possibly suspended as well, not sure how you suspend a GM so that should be interesting, and I think Benson and the team get a fine and are forced to lose either their 2nd round pick this year or their first round pick next year. Ready to see what will be the punishment and if any punishment will be passed on to the Titans, Redskins and Bills as well. I say most likely not because it was so long ago and the common denominator, Williams himself, will be hit the hardest with the suspension and fines. I’m sure all teams will be sent a memo though.

  13. bigbillsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 12:27 PM

    It is a sorry state of affairs when so-called professionals dirty up the image of the league. Deal with what they hand down in a professional manner -without whinning!

  14. skippynj says: Mar 21, 2012 12:27 PM

    Before or after Godot arrives?

  15. TaiwanMike says: Mar 21, 2012 12:28 PM

    The NFL is going to throw the book at them in hopes of setting a precedent. If they let any af the aforementioned off with anything short of devestating, the NFL would be leaving themselves open to even more liability when it comes to former players’ health problems. There is a difference between wanting to deliver a good hit that will be remembered, and trying to intentionally end a players day, week, season, or career. Williams and the Saints crossed a line.

  16. melikefootball says: Mar 21, 2012 12:28 PM

    Looks more and more as if God-del and his Hinchman are letting time slip by in hopes the NFL world will forget about this. This a long with all the Manning hype is playing right into his hands. Come on God-del you preached clean up league and fines and suspensions to players to make game safer and now you are sitting on your back sides.

  17. dwoofer says: Mar 21, 2012 12:28 PM

    They should expel all persons involved from the league. Isn’t that what happened to the “victims?” It was obvious during the Saints/Cardinals playoff game that the “Saints” were trying to hurt Warner. (Unfortunately, the refs let them get away with the hits until the game was way past winning.) And they finally got him on what I still say was an illegal crack-back block. So, Warner retired after that hit, the Saints won the Super Bowl, and nobody has paid one single cent in penalty or had any other consequence.
    Oh, and about all those other wonderful role model players on the team: where were they when their teammates were bounty hunting and injuring players?

  18. sophandros says: Mar 21, 2012 12:28 PM

    “All key players in this conspiracy will be punished, but Vilma will pay the steepest penalty, as he’ll be forced to watch the latest episode of Glee on a loop for two straight weeks.”

    That violates the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution.

  19. donz0 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:29 PM

    Hefty fines don’t hurt as much as forfeiture of draft picks.

  20. waltdawg says: Mar 21, 2012 12:30 PM

    Will it be as punitive and unfair as the SKINS PUNISHMENT??????!!!!

    Cannot stand Goodell.

  21. dirtybirds233 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:30 PM

    To all Saints fans saying y’all never got any media attention until now…SHUTUP! You guys have been the media darlings of all sporting news since ’09. If the Saints win, they are the greatest team to bet win a game. If they lose, it was cause the other team got “lucky”. The media has stroked the shaft of the Saints for far too long.

  22. gotampabay52 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:30 PM

    Slap the saint out the Saints move the team to LA.

  23. time2speakup says: Mar 21, 2012 12:31 PM

    It will interesting to see what The Commish’s credibility rating looks like after he finally gets off the dime and deals with all the Sicko Saints (and former Saints in particular). If Williams is still in coaching anywhere in organized football, it will be a travesty. And Pencil-faced Payton should be there one step to the left, and two steps back carrying his lunch pail.

  24. maxinquaye7 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:33 PM

    @myspaceyourface says: Mar 21, 2012 12:21 PM

    “It better not exceed the spygate punishment. In my opinion spygate got a slap on the wrist.”

    so you feel the nfl erred in being too lenient re: spygate and you want them to…? make the same mistake again? ohokthen

  25. daysend564 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:34 PM

    They should wait until the day before the start of the season to announce the suspension of all these coaches players.

    They did it to Cowboys/Redskins. It is only fair.

  26. electionconfidential says: Mar 21, 2012 12:34 PM

    I agree with myspaceyourface when he says that SpyGate got a slap on the wrist, but I don’t think the league should compound that by making the same mistake here. In fact, given that a couple of hundred former players are suing the league saying, in part, that the league withheld critical information regarding the seriousness of concussions I don’t think the league can afford a slap on the wrist here. What’s happened here is that a member of management has paid out of his own pocket (at times) for an opposing player to be “carted off” the field… that’s a financial / legal liability the league doesn’t need.

  27. xxwhodatxx says: Mar 21, 2012 12:34 PM

    dublindemonszfl says:
    Mar 21, 2012 12:21 PM
    They should be put behind bars.

     ——-
    Is your real name Brett Farve?

  28. bluepike says: Mar 21, 2012 12:35 PM

    ……”or the forfeiture of draft picks” – OR? There had better be a forfeiture of draft picks. There have been teams that have lost draft picks for “violating” the NFL’s BS “tampering rule” – which seems to be selective since most teams practice it but only a couple have been found guilty of it. Also, that would be “picks” – as in more than one. Anything else would be laughable.

  29. djteknision1200 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:35 PM

    Sure it is, It all depends on your definition of soon. It will probably come in the next year or so….I’m growing tired of this story!!

  30. b0rker says: Mar 21, 2012 12:35 PM

    Comparing this to Spygate is ridiculous. The Saints were playing rougher because of incentives.

  31. jjmurphy1127d says: Mar 21, 2012 12:36 PM

    I have said this a few times before and will say it again. I think this is far worse than Spy Gate on many levels (intent to injure/end careeers, salary cap circumvention, the dishonesty when caught, etc.) and the penalites handed down will reflect that. I may be wrong, but my instinct is that the penalites here will make Spy Gate look like a parking ticket in comparison.

  32. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 12:36 PM

    Compared to Spygate, this should be a loss of picks for each of the next 3 years, a 10 million dollar fine and a lifelong ban for Williams and a year for everyone else involved. This is a disgusting act that directly influenced the outcome of games unlike Spygate.

  33. ken1313 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:36 PM

    myspaceyourface says: Mar 21, 2012 12:21 PM

    It better not exceed the spygate punishment. In my opinion spygate got a slap on the wrist.
    ——————————————————

    LOL…..seriously? You are saying that “Videotaping” an opponents hand signals …is a more serious offense than putting bounties on NFL players and encouraging your own players/teammates to try and cripple them?

    That’s like saying that a purse snatcher should get a stiffer penalty than a murderer. Get a clue

  34. patriotinvasion says: Mar 21, 2012 12:37 PM

    As a Patriots fan, I am really curious why Congress has not yet been involved? BountyGate is much more sinister than having a guy in a Patriots coat taping hand signals in plain view to every man, woman, child, bumble bee, and mosquito in the stadium. A VHS doesn’t win 3 Super Bowls haters, sorry.

    Congress isn’t involved because the Saints haven’t been crushing other fans dreams for a decade…including Eagles fan Arlen Specter? That’s why.

  35. holdsteady76 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:39 PM

    Ban them for life.

  36. steelernationsparksjealousy says: Mar 21, 2012 12:41 PM

    Lolz

  37. ravensrooster94 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:42 PM

    Let’s see….paying defensive players to purposely main players on the other team to get them out of the game. Williams, Payton, and Loomis should consider themselves lucky that all they’re probably get is suspensions and fines, all of which should well exceed Spygate.

    This is perilously close a far more serious offense…. It’s called assault and battery.

  38. squealerweasel says: Mar 21, 2012 12:44 PM

    I expect they’ll receive a “slap on the wrist” but anything that attacks the integrity of the NFL should be dealt with in a serious manner. Or maybe they can have “outside influences” fund offensive incentives programs, like 3rd down conversions, red zone touchdowns, plays over 20 yds, or how about cut blocks, maybe crack blocks that puts a team best rusher/run stopper out of the game! Hmmmm

  39. packerswambulance says: Mar 21, 2012 12:45 PM

    Rogers going to lose alot of fans if this is just going to be a slap on the wrist…

  40. casinodino says: Mar 21, 2012 12:46 PM

    Throw the book at these losers….

  41. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 12:46 PM

    Another thing… The Pats didnt try to conceal or hide what they were doing, nor did they lie about it. over and over…..

  42. q1ller says: Mar 21, 2012 12:47 PM

    I am less concerned with the punishment of the individuals. What I really want to see is the team lose multiple high drafts picks.

  43. diehardsaintsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 12:47 PM

    its funny how every one of my post get deleted….what? a Saints fan cant comment on a Saints topic? This site is a Saints bashing site……if you are not bashing the Saints you shouldnt read any garbage topic on this garbage website. Change the name to Saints Bashing Talk….weak!

  44. jagerbmb says: Mar 21, 2012 12:48 PM

    I’m waiting to the day Goodell takes someones first-born… @sarcasm

  45. jason1980 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:50 PM

    No matter what Godell does, the SAINTS will be tough this coming season. The loser fan bases will continue to whine, and Almighty Saints will continue to kick a$$ and take names.

  46. bunjy96 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:51 PM

    Fines are really meaningless.
    Suspensions and/or draft picks are the only way to hit em where is will hurt, at all levels. Then put a fine on top of it, just to slam the point home!

  47. faulkn22 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:53 PM

    WOW. 1 year suspensions and big draft picks!!!!

    Good job Goodell.

  48. jjmurphy1127d says: Mar 21, 2012 12:59 PM

    patriotinvasion says:
    Mar 21, 2012 12:37 PM
    “As a Patriots fan, I am really curious why Congress has not yet been involved? BountyGate is much more sinister than having a guy in a Patriots coat taping hand signals in plain view to every man, woman, child, bumble bee, and mosquito in the stadium. A VHS doesn’t win 3 Super Bowls haters, sorry.

    Congress isn’t involved because the Saints haven’t been crushing other fans dreams for a decade…including Eagles fan Arlen Specter? That’s why.”

    There’s no doubt in my mind that the Patriots still win all of their Super Bowls with or without Spy Gate. Let’s not forget that stealing signals is fine and that’s why teams had guys with binoculars and note pads trying to decipher them. The Pats – and others per Jimmy Johnson/other coaches – took it to another level with what they did. They got in trouble less for what they actually did and more for their arrogance – figuratively laughing in the face of the then relatively new commissioner by ignoring the warning memo the league sent to all teams a week or two prior to SG. If Tagliabue or Rozelle were the commish then, we might not have heard about Spy Gate much or at all (similar to other “scandals” like the Broncos salary cap circumvention in the late Elway era), but Goodell needed to establish that a new sheriff was in town and BB/Pats paid the price.

    That all said, I think the brilliance of Bill Belichick and his sustained excellence in terms of W/L is great talent likely Tom Brady combined with a series of small edges (e.g., salary cap management, trading down one round in current year and gaining a pick a round up in the next year, focus on middle class of roster and not being too top heavy, small coaching tips gained from years of experience at a wide # of stops, and yes things like filming signals, how to catch a punt, how to study for & ID tendencies, etc.). He would not waste his time and continue something if he did not see some small incremental gain in it. But to say Spy Gate was the reason the Pats have been so successful for so long in the salary cap era is too simple and ignores all of the smart and little things they have done over the years. It also ignores that they have had the best record in football since Spy Gate and have made two Super Bowls since then, losing both in the last minute. Not to mention a 14-2 in 2010 and an 11-5 in 2008 with Matt Cassel playing 15 3/4 games for an injured Tom Brady.

  49. plowe70 says: Mar 21, 2012 1:13 PM

    Why are people comparing this to spy gate? Two totally different issues.

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