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Roger Goodell stands by Saints’ suspensions: “We were lied to”

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is confident that his unprecedented punishments in the Saints’ bounty scandal, including an indefinite suspension of former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and a yearlong suspension of head coach Sean Payton, were warranted given the facts of the case.

“I don’t think you can be too hard on people that put at risk our players’ health and safety,” Goodell said on NFL Network. “That is a critical issue for us going forward and has been in our past.”

Goodell said there’s no doubt in his mind that the Saints lied to the league office when the bounty investigation began.

“Clearly, we were lied to,” Goodell said. “We investigated this back in 2010, we were told it was not happening, it continued for another two years until we got credible evidence late in the 2011 season and we were able to identify significant information that verified from multiple sources that this was going on for a three-year period.”

Goodell said he’s disappointed in players who took part in the bounty program and will continue to consider player discipline.

“We have a serious violation of an existing rule that threatens the health and welfare of our players,” Goodell said. “In addition, this went on for three years and it was investigated, we were misled, and there were denials throughout that period. Meanwhile, there continued to be risk to our players and to the integrity of our game. So it calls for a very significant and clear message.”

It’s a message that Williams and Payton heard loud and clear today.

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154 Responses to “Roger Goodell stands by Saints’ suspensions: “We were lied to””
  1. jaggedmark says: Mar 21, 2012 2:45 PM

    “You lied to me. Now daddy is going to have to show you some tough love. You’re grounded for 1 year!”

  2. fballguy says: Mar 21, 2012 2:46 PM

    Didn’t Belicheat lie too? He said he hadn’t recorded prior to the Jets game Mangini blew the whistle on. Then quietly tapes were produced from the early 2000’s.

  3. hoops737 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:46 PM

    8 games would have been “loud” enough

  4. marima07 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:47 PM

    Clearly the biggest sin in all of this was the Saints’ lying to the commissioner. The pay-for-injury system would still be punished, but the lying pushed Goodell over the edge.

    At least Belichick came clean right away when confronted by the league, otherwise I believe he would have been suspended too.

  5. paleandpasty says: Mar 21, 2012 2:47 PM

    The Saints didn’t cover up the mess well enough, the Patriots on the other hand did.

  6. mattwalshvideo says: Mar 21, 2012 2:47 PM

    Bill Belicheater lied also you complete fraud.

  7. billsfan27 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM

    Exactly. There’s whiny-assed Drew Brees’ explanation in a nutshell.

  8. playmaker21 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM

    Well guess what Roger, we as fans were lied to about Spygate. You basically slapped the Patriots and Bilichick on the wrist. Spygate brought the integrity of the game into question. There has never been a question about you being in bed with the Kraft family and the Patriots organization. This just further proves this.

  9. sdisme says: Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM

    It’s a good thing Goodell doesn’t lie to us.

    cough”vicktoldtoplayforEagles”cough

  10. conseannery says: Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM

    Like many issues in life, the cover-up will get you punished more than the offending act itself.

  11. atlien698 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM

    who dat? who dat? who dat say they gonna be y’all’s coach?

    hahahahahahahahahahaha

  12. seahawks4lyfe says: Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM

    Giggity Giggity Goo Looks Like Godell Got You! Who is going to coach and run the Saints now? Well who cares. I think this is funny!

  13. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    fballguy says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:46 PM
    Didn’t Belicheat lie too? He said he hadn’t recorded prior to the Jets game Mangini blew the whistle on. Then quietly tapes were produced from the early 2000′s.
    ————————–

    Nope….. The Pats never concealed nor lied about what they were doing.

  14. coleman121280 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    ABOUT MOTHER F N TIME…

  15. 69jaredallen69 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    Roger should have made the Broncos trade Tim Tebow to New Orleans and make him start all 16 games as punishment

  16. mortimeryoung says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    I guess you gotta be a dynasty before you can really get away with cheating.

  17. getadealdonealready says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    you know who doesn’t get suspended for a year? Coaches who don’t allow a bounty system to go on, then lie to the NFL about it when they are questioned. Still think the team got off easy – should have lost 1st round picks and possibly the franchise tag.

  18. jwcarlson says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    A year fits…

  19. boopipes says: Mar 21, 2012 2:50 PM

    Sean Payton seems like a liar.

  20. rexryanstoecheese says: Mar 21, 2012 2:50 PM

    FAR worse than Spygate; the Punishment AND the offense..
    For those of you saying Goodell is “best friends” and “Buddy’s” with Kraft, spare us.
    No one of this goofy site knows the first thing about Goodell’s and Bob Krafts friends. No one here runs in those circles…and never will

  21. iamwhodat says: Mar 21, 2012 2:50 PM

    Wow Coleman121280! its one thing to not like the Saints and Drew Brees, but to call the man’s kid a retard shows that you my friend ARE the douche bag.

  22. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Mar 21, 2012 2:50 PM

    @fballguy says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:46 PM
    Didn’t Belicheat lie too? He said he hadn’t recorded prior to the Jets game Mangini blew the whistle on. Then quietly tapes were produced from the early 2000′s

    Bro. Look into it, every team was video taping back then.

  23. somekat says: Mar 21, 2012 2:51 PM

    One of the few things I can say I agree that this guy has done since he took over.

    May be a bit overboard on the coach (not in my opinion, but I can see the case.), but was soft on the franchise (500k is nothing for a nfl team, 2 2nd round picks is not huge). All in all, a fair ruling in my opinion

    Personally, I’d of given Loomis the same year ban as Payton, and taken their first round pick instead of the 2nd next year.

  24. johcalclubber says: Mar 21, 2012 2:51 PM

    Job Well Done Mr. Goodell

  25. coolgato13 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM

    The NFL`s message is clear:

    You want to try to take away someone`s livelihood?
    We can and WILL take away your livelihood!

  26. ebr362 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM

    I applaud Goddell for having the balls to do what he is doing. This game is brutal enough without players purposely trying to hurt another player. Hard hits are part of the game, no doubt, but there is no place for this. To continue this behavior while kowing you are being investigated is pure stupidity and arrogance. Players can’t sit there and complain they want and want and want because there “carreers” are so short and be against Goodell’s decision that for all intenssive purposes protects them. Some lucky players career just got a lot longer because someone had the balls to say enough!

  27. conormacleod says: Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM

    There’s your explanation Drew. Now shut up!

  28. sfsaintsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM

    Legal hits, within the rules.

    I guess that FACT is being overlooked……..

    Just wrap all of the players in bubble wrap and put a Red Jersey on the QB.

  29. matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM

    HAHAHA the team got off easy in my opinion but Payton got what he deserves.

  30. iced107 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:53 PM

    Love how they talk about integrity of the game and hand out severe punishments, yet when the Patriots cheated their way to a dynasty, all they lose a draft pick.

    Plus, Bill Romanowski makes a good point here:

    Maybe there should be a bounty program on members of the league who have buried data on brain injuries for years. #hypocrisy

  31. packerpride03 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:53 PM

    One punishment they got correct. League can not have this kind of stuff going on. I’m just wondering what’s going to happen to the saints players and are they going to look into the rest of the teams

  32. bigjd says: Mar 21, 2012 2:54 PM

    This clown is ruining the NFL.

  33. conormacleod says: Mar 21, 2012 2:54 PM

    I hate the Patriots too, but if you can’t see the difference between taping practice (or whatever they taped) and attempting to injure players, then there is nothing that will convince you.

  34. zonedogz says: Mar 21, 2012 2:55 PM

    Love the pose. Roger “Make My Day” Goodell !

  35. mvp43 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:55 PM

    ebr362 says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM
    I applaud Goddell for having the balls to do what he is doing. This game is brutal enough without players purposely trying to hurt another player. Hard hits are part of the game, no doubt, but there is no place for this. To continue this behavior while kowing you are being investigated is pure stupidity and arrogance. Players can’t sit there and complain they want and want and want because there “carreers” are so short and be against Goodell’s decision that for all intenssive purposes protects them. Some lucky players career just got a lot longer because someone had the balls to say enough!

    ——————–

    What he said…………..

  36. kane337 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:55 PM

    You da man Rodger!

    Who Dat? Rodger Dat!

  37. benjamanpaul says: Mar 21, 2012 2:55 PM

    Is it just me, or is this situation reminiscent of when we all were like six years old and pulled some kind of shenanigans, then denied it to our parents or teachers only to be proven by evidence to have lied and therefore the punishment was more severe, such as no allowance and being grounded for a month as opposed to just not getting to go to the movies that night. Seems like the people running the saints never got that lesson.

  38. bangreggwilliams says: Mar 21, 2012 2:55 PM

    I call this FAT WEDNESDAY! What a joyous day.

    The cheating, lying, injuring Saints get mauled by Goodell. I am elated.

  39. chandler1 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:56 PM

    Cry me a Katrina cheaters….

  40. nathan702nelson says: Mar 21, 2012 2:56 PM

    Who dat say gon’ pay dem Taints?

  41. weepingjebus says: Mar 21, 2012 2:56 PM

    This thing is just getting started. Multiple active players on the Saints roster and elsewhere could be suspended. They are radioactive now.

  42. rexismybff says: Mar 21, 2012 2:57 PM

    Isn’t Goodell the same guy who burned the SpyGate tapes to avoid any “competitive advantage”??

    Yeah, I guess there is a clear message here – New Orleans — you don’t get the same justice as a rich media market and a rich and influential owner like Bob Kraft.

  43. datd00d says: Mar 21, 2012 2:58 PM

    This penalty is both warranted and reasonable.

    Saints staff members paid players to hurt opposing players. The head coach knew about it, the GM knew about it. They did nothing to stop it. They were questioned about it, lied about it, and allowed it to continue. Bottom line.

    At a time where player safety is of the utmost concern – where every fan, player, former player, and NFLPA delegate is up in arms over player safety, I’d think that the public would be more supportive of this discipline.

  44. bigjoe2269 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:58 PM

    pure favoritism shown by the league what Belicheater did was much worse and got a slap on the wrist – oh and they destroyed the evidence before anyone could see it

  45. deviantfate says: Mar 21, 2012 2:59 PM

    This difference between this and spygate is that this involved player safety which is a big deal right now in the NFL. All you spygate haters out there need to realize that spygate only effected the integrity of the game, not both.

    The NFL has liabilities to consider when it comes to player safety. When it comes to the integrity of them game the only loser is the league itself, the league can’t sue the league. But the players certainly can.

    That’s why this is a bigger deal.

  46. foosball11 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:00 PM

    Hurricane Rodger hits New Orleans.

  47. marcinhouston says: Mar 21, 2012 3:00 PM

    Roger Goodell is lying and covering up the whole story. He knows Washington, Buffalo, Philly, and Baltimore have had bounty programs and intentionally injured opponents but he killed the investigations into those teams and swept it under the rug for two reasons: he is an inside the beltway guy born and raised in the northeast and he feels that if the NFL admitted the problem extended to multiple teams the evidence of a systematic failure by the NFL would reflect more on him and be more difficult to scapegoat on one team. Eventually Goodell’s coverup will come to light and he will be forced to resign in shame. This matter needs to be pursued in the courts and in congressional hearings to uncover the full extent of the issue and not just sweep it under the rug as an isolated incident. Baseball failed with steroids when they treated incidents as being isolated to one team or player. When the full truth comes out Goodell will prove guiltier than Payton.

  48. portnoychunk says: Mar 21, 2012 3:00 PM

    bigjd says: Mar 21, 2012 2:54 PM

    This clown is ruining the NFL.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    No he isn’t, he’s saving it….from being ruined by lawsuits from players past, present, and future. That’s the world we live in now – he’s doing the smart thing. Most fans are just to dense to know better.

  49. hmpennypacker says: Mar 21, 2012 3:00 PM

    I have absolutely no problem with the punishments handed out. This IS worse that spygate because it involved players going out to specifically hurt other players. Someone could have had their career ended or worse.

    Also Brees being so loud about how this is wrong really does throw a huge shadow over the players own calls for enhanced player safety. They rightly are very vocal about not wanting an 18 game schedule due to injury concerns and they made it a focal point of the new CBA, but for Brees to be outraged over these punishments is hypocritical to say the least.

    Next it the player punishments and I think Vilma is a goner. Indefinitely.

  50. tompeppermint says: Mar 21, 2012 3:00 PM

    Tough break for Malcolm in the Middle. Well deserved though.

  51. johcalclubber says: Mar 21, 2012 3:01 PM

    sfsaintsfan says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM
    Legal hits, within the rules.

    I guess that FACT is being overlooked……..

    Just wrap all of the players in bubble wrap and put a Red Jersey on the QB.
    —————————————————-
    You are missing the bigger picture

  52. bunjy96 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:01 PM

    Now that he is already suspended, Payton will tell the truth about the Vicodin.

  53. kcross01 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:01 PM

    I am going to take a stab at what happened here. Do any of you remeber the big Vicidian investigation a few years ago? In that investigation Payton and the GM hung the security cheif an ex FBI guy out to dry for the whole incident. Payback is a bitch and I bet he is the one that helped find that evidence.

  54. niner13 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:01 PM

    Yo Brees: police your pig pen.

  55. saintsfan1111 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:01 PM

    Let’s put flags on the players…oh what the hell, let’s play touch football.

  56. ty49er4life says: Mar 21, 2012 3:02 PM

    You know when you were a kid you always got in more trouble for lying that what you actually did wrong. The only thing I think is wrong about this is there is no independent arbitrator to appeal, if you appeal the guy that handed down the suspension hears the appeal, its a very corrupt system, and I’m surprised it wasnt collectively bargained.

  57. descendency says: Mar 21, 2012 3:02 PM

    He should also mention how they were taking money from Sean Payton’s agent and using it in the pool.

    That’s basically an offense that could get the death penalty for a coach. (Because of the impact that under the table 3rd party money could have on the game, especially in respect to gambling and the [tax] immunity that are provided to football by the US government.)

    I’m not shocked in the least at these punishments when you see all of the facts clearly. I admit, it sucks to see a part of NFL culture so painfully stripped from the league (like blood through the Saints’ stone…), but this was an ultra serious matter.

  58. jpthepatsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 3:02 PM

    Who Dat!!!!!! Saints deserve this….goodluck in 2014

  59. portnoychunk says: Mar 21, 2012 3:02 PM

    iced107 says: Mar 21, 2012 2:53 PM

    Love how they talk about integrity of the game and hand out severe punishments, yet when the Patriots cheated their way to a dynasty, all they lose a draft pick.

    Plus, Bill Romanowski makes a good point here:

    Maybe there should be a bounty program on members of the league who have buried data on brain injuries for years. #hypocrisy

    Bill Romanowski

    * ✔

    @billromanowski

    Maybe there should be a bounty program on members of the league who have buried data on brain injuries for years. #hypocrisy
    21 Mar 12

    * Reply
    * Retweet
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Oh yeah, because Romanowski is a bright, stand-up guy. Please.

  60. conormacleod says: Mar 21, 2012 3:02 PM

    The NFL is mainstream, and a multi-billion dollar industry. It is the most popular sport of all the big sports. The Saints openly stated they paid people to hurt other NFL players. NFL players that are the stars of this multi-billion dollar industry, the QB’s. Goodell is only given his power by the NFL owners, who are the multi-billion dollar owners. The only people that will complain about this punishment are the Saints, and their fans. 95% of the rest of the world thinks the Saints got off easy.

  61. chandler1 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:03 PM

    Favre and Warner need to lawyer up and sue the Saints and the NFL for $100 Million.

  62. dumplingsrbrown says: Mar 21, 2012 3:03 PM

    cheat
    verb (used with object)
    1. to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
    2. to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
    3. to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.
    4. to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
    5. to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
    6. to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.
    7. Informal . to be sexually unfaithful (often followed by on ): Her husband knew she had been cheating all along. He cheated on his wife.

    Just thought I would throw this in there before all the “Saint’s didn’t cheat” hoopla starts in. Definition numbers 2 and 4 seen to be very appropriate in this instance.

  63. j0esixpack says: Mar 21, 2012 3:03 PM

    They only lost a second round draft pick?

    Very lucky… George Halas, Lamar Hunt, George Allen, Jimmy Johnson and others are lucky they never coached under Goodell – for all the “cheating” they admitted to (it was called “gamesmanship” back then) they’d never have had any draft picks to use.

  64. sj39 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:03 PM

    As I recall BB admitted right away after they got caught that he had been cheating ever since becoming the Pats HC. By not trying to lie about it and cover it up he saved himself some suspension time. At least he owned up to it (which is why I am suprised so many Pats fans are still in denial). Cheating is bad enough but when you lie about it after you’re caught it just makes it worse.

  65. hamadybrother says: Mar 21, 2012 3:04 PM

    The potential for a player having a career ending injury to sue the NFL for not preventing this was too great. As you can see now, players form the ’80s are suing the NFL for not doing anything about concussions. Goodell and the NFL have to come down hard, so as not to be accused of turning the other way to avoid future lawsuits …

    And for Brees to say he needs an explanation? Seriously? If someone took him down in a career ending late hit “cart-off”, would he have the same point of view?

  66. Chuck Wood says: Mar 21, 2012 3:04 PM

    We were lied to during Spygate… where cheating affected the outcome of games. Why wasn’t Belichick suspended again??? I don’t disagree with the latest punishments handed down by the NFL Czar. I want a retroactive suspension handed down to BILL BELICHICK.

  67. jwcarlson says: Mar 21, 2012 3:04 PM

    @sfsaintsfan –
    Legal hits? You mean the four illegal hits against B. Favre in the NFC Championship game? And the $15,000 of fines for hits the previous week?

    Yeah, completely legal hits all of them.

  68. bryans49ers says: Mar 21, 2012 3:05 PM

    This should come as no surprise to anyone. Goodell is a hard ass. He sent a preemptive legal strike in the face of all the lawsuits being filed by former players against his league. He is showing the judge to be, that we protect our players

  69. seahawks4lyfe says: Mar 21, 2012 3:06 PM

    WoW Hurricane Katrina wasn’t that bad to New Orleans compared to Roger Godell’s punishment was to the Saints!

  70. jaltreality says: Mar 21, 2012 3:06 PM

    Meanwhile Redskins and Bills, to name two teams that were known to condone identical violations, get off scott free.

  71. godofwine330 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:06 PM

    For the players I think the punishment should be less harsh. A year for a coach that can coach until 70 (Tom Coughlin is 66) is different from a player whose average career is 4 years and most are out of the game by 31

  72. gacoltfan says: Mar 21, 2012 3:06 PM

    sfsaintsfan says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM
    Legal hits, within the rules.

    I guess that FACT is being overlooked……..

    The hit on Favre after he handed the ball off was a legal hit? Furthermore it doesn’t matter if hits were legal or not, the fact is there was a bounty program which is not legal. The hits severity or legality are irrelevant.

  73. chandler1 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:06 PM

    Everyone, same verse, second time… Oh, when the Aint’s coaches and GM go marching out the door…

  74. scchamil says: Mar 21, 2012 3:07 PM

    This punishment is ridiculous… this could set the entire organization back a decade. This will be viewed as overkill in future years (like SMU death penalty). Bounties are wrong, the shouldn’t be allowed in the NFL if the league is really concerned about player safety… which, of course, we know they’re not because they keep pushing for 18 game seasons. The problem I have is that shouldn’t the rules of the game protect against this? An illegal hit is an illegal hit whether the guy gets $500 after the game or not right? What good is $1000 (aka “tip money” to NFL players) when the league fines you $10,000 for an illegal hit. NFL players hit with the intent to hurt on every. single. play… don’t let any b.s announcer tell you otherwise. There is no difference between intent to hurt and intent to injure- that’s a made up distinction. So if the hit is not illegal under the league rules…what is the problem? And if it is illegal… why wasn’t it fined? And if they were fined… how is this “bounty” program really the danger to the league they claim it is. What is more motivation: getting a cut of your teammates’ petty cash or losing $10 grand in fines?

  75. jayevanoff says: Mar 21, 2012 3:08 PM

    Imagine lying to the CEO of your company for 3 years. Then imagine the state of your current job when he finds out.

  76. anarchopurplism says: Mar 21, 2012 3:08 PM

    Payton & Brees should take a look at Gregg Williams……notice how he apologized and then kept his mouth shut?

  77. kylemc1986 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:09 PM

    Roger Goodell is a ginger!!!

  78. thelastmisterbig says: Mar 21, 2012 3:09 PM

    Whiny-ass Viking fans are out in full force today.

  79. jwcarlson says: Mar 21, 2012 3:10 PM

    @sfstaintsfan – “4. In each of the 2009-2011 seasons, the Saints were one of the top five teams in the league in roughing the passer penalties. In 2009 and 2011, the Saints were also in the top five teams in unnecessary roughness penalties; in 2010, the Saints ranked sixth in the category. In the January 16, 2010 divisional playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals, Saints defensive players were assessed $15,000 in fines for fouls committed against opposing players. The following week, in the NFC Championship Game against the Minnesota Vikings, Saints defensive players were assessed $30,000 in fines for four separate illegal hits, several of which were directed against quarterback Brett Favre. ”

    $45,000 in fines for illegal hits… wonder how much of this was covered by “bounty” payouts.
    But they were all legal hits so why worry…

  80. vtopa says: Mar 21, 2012 3:11 PM

    TRANSLATION: I’m being sued about player safety and this will look good in court. You’re nothing but trash Goddell. Hamstring a franchise to make yourself look high and mighty. Way to destroy the illusion of parity and competitiveness next year.

  81. besdayz says: Mar 21, 2012 3:12 PM

    What a sham of a league this has become. Witch hunt fueled by the media on some hypocritical holier than thou stuff. This wont improve player safety.

    That said, I still think the worse penalized team today was the Jets.

  82. hersh8245 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:12 PM

    Bellicheck’s lies didn’t get players injured, and thus, his penalty wasn’t as severe.

    Stop comparing this to the Patriots (I’m not even a Pats fan)!

  83. guestsinger says: Mar 21, 2012 3:15 PM

    iced107 says:
    “Bill Romanowski makes a good point here:”

    ____________________________________________

    Didn’t he do steroids? Doesn’t that limit is credibility when it comes to discusses of protecting players. From themselves?

  84. scchamil says: Mar 21, 2012 3:15 PM

    “Imagine lying to the CEO of your company for 3 years. Then imagine the state of your current job when he finds out”

    Goodel is not Sean Payton’s CEO. If you mean Payton lying to the Saints owner, then you may have a point.

    I guess my point is this: It’s a P.R. crisis masquerading as a player safety crisis. The penalty was too harsh for something that didn’t have any practical impact on the way the game was played or officiated.

  85. seahawkbias says: Mar 21, 2012 3:15 PM

    The gambling aspect is being overlooked/ignored by national media. That is what this is really about.
    If offshore money can buy an injury in an NFL game by funding a bounty account the game will become unhinged. Goodell knows this.
    The money is huge. What if there is a $500k bounty put on Brady in a key game because the offshore money has $3million against the Patriots? What would Goodell do, fine the player a game check? 15 yard penalty?

  86. mrconnors says: Mar 21, 2012 3:15 PM

    Probably because the NFL uses their heads, unlike your average NFL fan. Spygate was much ado about nothing, as is bountygate. Neither team should have been punished.

    I’m curious as to how the Patriots go 16-0, 14-2, 13-3, without these magical signals and go to two Super Bowls. But apparently they can’t win anymore? You know, without this big advantage that was supposedly the only reason they won?

    I’m also wondering where they got the magical signals to beat the Panthers in the SB. Because remember, they had not played the Panthers under John Fox (the Patriots last played the Panthers in 2001, when the Panthers were 1-15 under a different head coach). So they had no prior knowledge of the Panthers plays, yet somehow the won. Maybe the signals fell out of the sky?

  87. philwauke says: Mar 21, 2012 3:15 PM

    If the league isn’t sued by former players then this suspension never happens. The league was looking for a scape goat and found one in the saints. Now they can say see we care but they knew about it in 2009 and did nothing about it.

  88. mvp43 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:16 PM

    scchamil says:
    Mar 21, 2012 3:07 PM
    This punishment is ridiculous… this could set the entire organization back a decade. This will be viewed as overkill in future years (like SMU death penalty). Bounties are wrong, the shouldn’t be allowed in the NFL if the league is really concerned about player safety… which, of course, we know they’re not because they keep pushing for 18 game seasons. The problem I have is that shouldn’t the rules of the game protect against this? An illegal hit is an illegal hit whether the guy gets $500 after the game or not right? What good is $1000 (aka “tip money” to NFL players) when the league fines you $10,000 for an illegal hit. NFL players hit with the intent to hurt on every. single. play… don’t let any b.s announcer tell you otherwise. There is no difference between intent to hurt and intent to injure- that’s a made up distinction. So if the hit is not illegal under the league rules…what is the problem? And if it is illegal… why wasn’t it fined? And if they were fined… how is this “bounty” program really the danger to the league they claim it is. What is more motivation: getting a cut of your teammates’ petty cash or losing $10 grand in fines?

    ——————————–
    They lied to the league and continued to do it!

    ’nuff said…

  89. cujofriend says: Mar 21, 2012 3:16 PM

    It’s interesting to note that Goodell severely punished the Saints for cheating but barely punished the Patriots for cheating.

  90. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 3:17 PM

    mattwalshvideo says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:47 PM
    Bill Belicheater lied also you complete fraud.
    ————————

    Actually Bellichick never lied about a single thing. Not only that, he VOLUNTEERED the info about previous taping.

  91. iamwhodat says: Mar 21, 2012 3:17 PM

    Who dat nation rise up! Yes our boys were involved in a serious scandal and they deserve to be punished. To all the haters who want the Saints to fail, watch out bc next season will be fun. I think you people forget that the Saints still have the best offense in the league. Drew will be resigned to a long term deal soon to put a bandage over this whole situation. And what people really know Sean Peyton didn’t create the gameplan or call plays last year, it was Pete Carmichael who did. So when the Saints end up in the playoffs next year, and win that Lombardi trophy for the 2nd time; what will some of you haters say then? Hi haters, I see you! Who dat we dat and don’t forget dat.

  92. uscthom78 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:17 PM

    Should have been a minimum 2 year postseason ban.

  93. Deb says: Mar 21, 2012 3:17 PM

    I hate the Patriots as much as the next Steeler fan. But these moronic “Spygate” references are ridiculous. If you set fire to a building, your punishment will be harsher than the punishment for the kid who tagged it with graffiti.

    Taking money from a convicted felon to bypass the salary cap and run an illegal bounty program designed to knock players out of the game, then baldface lying to the league about its existence is MUCH worse than what the Pats did. All teams were filming defensive signal-calling. Then the rule changed and they were told to stop. The Pats failed to stop at that point. So they continued doing something everyone had been doing. They weren’t injuring players, weren’t taking money from felons, weren’t cheating on the salary cap. Get a grip.

  94. somekat says: Mar 21, 2012 3:17 PM

    @scchmail

    There is a HUGE difference between trying to HURT a guy, and trying to INJUR a guy. You want to hurt a guy, every play. You want him thinking about going across the middle or whatever before he ever does it.
    You do not want to injur a guy, unless you are a scumbag with no place in any professional sport, or an employee of the Saints

  95. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 3:18 PM

    playmaker21 says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:48 PM
    Well guess what Roger, we as fans were lied to about Spygate. You basically slapped the Patriots and Bilichick on the wrist. Spygate brought the integrity of the game into question. There has never been a question about you being in bed with the Kraft family and the Patriots organization. This just further proves this.
    ————————

    You are 100% incorrect. Goddell went overboard to make an example of the Pats and protected other teams by destroying evidence of them doing the same thing. After leaking footage to his wife at Fox of course.

  96. bucfansouthtampa says: Mar 21, 2012 3:20 PM

    NFL Network..remember the interview you had with Darren Sharper when this first came out. He said this didi not happen..he lied. Darren Sharper should be banned from your Network. If he is going to lieon something this important, there should be consequences.

  97. nebster21 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:20 PM

    just by being a part of the NFL means you are putting peoples live at risk. You MR goodell have put far more people at risk than any bounty could possibly do. You should give yourself a infinite ban from the NFL.

  98. mjdkid100 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:21 PM

    FOR THE ONE MILLIONETH TIME!!!!!!!!

    THE PATRIOTS NEVER TAPED PRACTICES!

    How can so many people on here be this stupid?

    Why do you think the league sent out a memo to the ENTIRE LEAGUE to stop taping opposing coaches? Because lots of teams were doing it. Belichick continued and got punished. Jimmy Johnson among other admitted this.

    The Patriots were video taping head coaches during games that everyone in the entire stadium could see(not the definition of spying).
    WE ALL SAW THE TAPES, they played multiple games from multiple years, including Herm Edwards waving at the camera. Its no secret or conspiracy.

    They immediately admitted what they were doing because they didnt think they were doing anything wrong. You may have heard BS from the media along the way, but Belichick when met with Goodell told him that they’d done it for years and told the truth.

    If anything this proves how unimportant Spygate actually was. Clearly, if it was ruining the integrity of the game Goodell would havecome down harder.

    By the way they lost a 1st round pick and were fined $750,000.

  99. slickmarine says: Mar 21, 2012 3:21 PM

    sfsaintsfan says:Mar 21, 2012 2:52 PM

    Legal hits, within the rules.

    I guess that FACT is being overlooked……..
    ____

    Really, Saints fan? That hit on Favre (who I don’t like AT ALL) 3 seconds after the whistle was legal and within the rules? What rules? You’re trippin’, man. In denial.

    Kinda like Drew Brees…

  100. acetw says: Mar 21, 2012 3:22 PM

    When is Goodell’s suspension and how much is his fine for allowing this to go on for 3 years without any more than “stop it” to his credit? The fans and more importantly the players have been lied to by this ‘administration’ and their make-believe push for ‘player safety’.

    NFL corporate buzzwords and translations:

    Player safety = Don’t knock out our star players, that costs us money.

    Protect the Shield = Protect the profit margin.

  101. coleman121280 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:23 PM

    Grab your paper bag TAINT fans….

    back to the bottom of the NFC SOUTH you go..

  102. stadanko says: Mar 21, 2012 3:26 PM

    Just like Michael Vick lied to your face? You know, the guy you let walk out of Leavenworth and right into a training camp. And do you honestly think Belichick really “Misinterpreted the rules”?

  103. modellforprez says: Mar 21, 2012 3:26 PM

    maybe if these cheating tards would have been honest from the gate door and jump he might not have pummeled them. payton got a year damn they porked them harder than the cheating patties

  104. capslockkey says: Mar 21, 2012 3:26 PM

    “They only lost a second round draft pick?

    Very lucky… George Halas, Lamar Hunt, George Allen, Jimmy Johnson and others are lucky they never coached under Goodell – for all the “cheating” they admitted to (it was called “gamesmanship” back then) they’d never have had any draft picks to use.”

    I’m going to assume you meant Hank Stram.

  105. jasncondit says: Mar 21, 2012 3:27 PM

    Can hear Goodell in his Optimus Prime voice from Transformers 3. “You LIED TO US! Everything the Saints knew about the Bounty Program we were told had all been shared! So why was THIS (Bounty Pay Envelope) found in the Saints’ Player’s Possession!!??” Followed up by him telling the NFL Fans “We will KILL THEM ALL!!” and then to Greg Williams “YOU DIE!!!!” And Finally to Sean Peyton “You didn’t betray me, YOU BETRAYED YOURSELF!!”

  106. Mr. Super-Cool Awesome says: Mar 21, 2012 3:27 PM

    To steal a phrase from Daniel Tosh, looks like Goodell took the Saints to “Pound Town.”

  107. monroviaman says: Mar 21, 2012 3:27 PM

    “I don’t think you can be too hard on people that put at risk our players’ health and safety,” Goodell said on NFL Network.

    Goodell should suspend himself a year than for trying to get an 18 game schedule…

  108. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 3:29 PM

    Deb says:
    Mar 21, 2012 3:17 PM
    I hate the Patriots as much as the next Steeler fan. But these moronic “Spygate” references are ridiculous. If you set fire to a building, your punishment will be harsher than the punishment for the kid who tagged it with graffiti.

    Taking money from a convicted felon to bypass the salary cap and run an illegal bounty program designed to knock players out of the game, then baldface lying to the league about its existence is MUCH worse than what the Pats did. All teams were filming defensive signal-calling. Then the rule changed and they were told to stop. The Pats failed to stop at that point. So they continued doing something everyone had been doing. They weren’t injuring players, weren’t taking money from felons, weren’t cheating on the salary cap. Get a grip.
    ——————————–
    My friend will be disappointed to hear he is no longer my favorite Steeler fan. Gotta wonder how many “fans” actually understand the league they claim to be so passionate about, or whether they just like to whine, cry and blame other people because its easier… just like in real life.

  109. somekat says: Mar 21, 2012 3:30 PM

    @acetw

    Are you serious? The asked about it, the Saints LIED, they found out the lied, the penalties came down. The problem with this is what?

    Like in ANY he said she said situation, you talk to each party, there is no way you can prove it just because someone said so. You tell the guy, “ok, but I’ll be keeping an eye on you”. Not Goodell’s fault that these arrogant morons thought they could get away with it anyway

  110. greenandgold1972 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:32 PM

    @vtopa says:
    Mar 21, 2012 3:11 PM
    TRANSLATION: I’m being sued about player safety and this will look good in court. You’re nothing but trash Goddell. Hamstring a franchise to make yourself look high and mighty. Way to destroy the illusion of parity and competitiveness next year.
    ——-
    Every year there are good teams and bad teams. Just because the Saints will probably join the bad teams, does not mean there will be no parity. Parity and competitiveness does NOT equal to the Saints being in the mix for playoffs

  111. greysolon says: Mar 21, 2012 3:34 PM

    Looks like Goodell will collect from whoever put the bounty out on Sean Payton…

  112. gacoltfan says: Mar 21, 2012 3:38 PM

    saintsfan1111 says:
    Mar 21, 2012 3:01 PM
    Let’s put flags on the players…oh what the hell, let’s play touch football.

    Would you be saying this if it was the Vikings that had a bounty on Brees and hit him the way the Saints hit Favre?

  113. metrocritical says: Mar 21, 2012 3:40 PM

    When Saints are sinners:

    Illegal plans to reward those who injure valuable league assets while simultaneously circumventing salary cap rules followed up by a conspiracy to cover up said scheme and deceive the investigative body that has omnipotent powers can only end badly for the offenders. Enough said.

  114. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 21, 2012 3:41 PM

    this is the first time i can remember i cheered on Roger Goodell. Well done, sir. i say you keep the hits coming to them. I still think they # of draft picks they lost was way too small, and the franchise should be finded atleast 10 million. 500,000 grand is pennies.

  115. scchamil says: Mar 21, 2012 3:44 PM

    “@scchmail
    There is a HUGE difference between trying to HURT a guy, and trying to INJUR a guy. You want to hurt a guy, every play. You want him thinking about going across the middle or whatever before he ever does it.
    You do not want to injur a guy, unless you are a scumbag with no place in any professional sport, or an employee of the Saints”

    There is a HUGE difference? Really? What is that difference? When a 240lb linebacker hits you as hard as he can – and you end up with a broken ankle, torn achillies, broken ribs, bruised kidney or a concussion from your head hitting the ground – which one is that? The ONLY distinction is legal hits (under the rules) vs. illegal hits. So people need to explain to me how the petty cash at the end of the game matters. If the hits are illegal – your team should be penalized and you should be fined. If they are legal, then it shouldn’t really matter what they do with their per diem money.

    I’m not a Saints fan and I’m not trying to say the Saints shouldn’t be punished for lying to the league – they should. I just think the player safety implications are overblown. A Spygate-esque 6-8 game suspension for all involved + loss of 1 first rounder would have been sufficient. And any Pats fan who claims Spygate wasn’t as big a deal because “other teams were doing it too” is being naive about this issue. There’s a reason they sent those “no bounty pledges” out to every team.

  116. darthsaint says: Mar 21, 2012 3:51 PM

    First off, this is way different than Spygate. It is true the NFL tried to cover it up where possible. But it is also true that the Patriots were NOT the only team that did this.

    Now, everyone points at the Saints as dirty. OK, with ALL the stories that have gone on about this, how many included ANY real world examples of players actually hurt or illegally hit? Don’t bring up Favre, dude came into that game with a bum ankle. ANY team is going to find your weakness and use it against you. Seriously guys, all these stories, non stop media, and there isnt some unended clip of Saints hits that were causing players to get hurt or leave games? Why do you think that is? Maybe they just sucked at it? Or maybe, the hits were all within the rules of the game.

    I do not condone the Saints ignoring the league office. I don’t understand that. But please, for the sake of god, quit acting like this was a Saints problem. The Saints problem was lying to the commish. Pots for big hits and cart-offs exists across the league. We may not have seen any video of the Saints creating these hits. But we did heard from a dozen plus former players all admitting that the same thing happened when they played, and on multiple teams.

    One last point before you flame me and get happy in your hope that the Saints are dead now. The letter Roger Goodell sent out to the teams today. It told Owners and Coaches to make sure they do not have bounty systems now. The key word, NOW. Why add that word in the memo? It wasn’t, make sure you haven’t had bounty systems because we need to punish those people as well. The league already knows it exists all over the place. Going forward, or NOW, it better not.

    Saints got used as a scapegoat…at least thank them for that.

    PS, winning the Super Bowl, in New Orleans, with tens of thousands of Saints fans raining boos on top of Goodell as he is forced to say nice things as he hands over the Lombardi to Benson…well that will be our sweet revenge. =)

  117. tank732 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:56 PM

    The NFL was better when everyone was getting arrested doing drugs and hard hits. Goodell needs to let men be men.

  118. chandler1 says: Mar 21, 2012 3:57 PM

    It’s official, the Saint’s fans are still losers…

  119. 49erstim says: Mar 21, 2012 3:57 PM

    Why are the Saints fans on here comparing this bounty investigation to the Pats spying scandal? They are completely unrelated. I know youre “fans”, as am I, but please stop acting as if the Saints are the VICTIMS here. They are not. The game of football has a unique kind of integrity. We play viciously (inside the rules) andgive 100% on the field of play. While injuries do occur they should never be the goal… NEVER! Any other stance and you are a soulless numbskull. Stop being shills for an organization that clearly violated an explicit rule. I’m not suggesting picking another team to root for, but clearly you should be up in arms about this… Not towards the league, but toward your own front office. I hope Mr Benson takes action of his own.

  120. somekat says: Mar 21, 2012 3:59 PM

    @sccmail
    If the hits are illegal, you should be penalized and you should be fined

    You mean like the 45k in fines during their 2 nfc playoff games when the won the superbowl?

    It’s not JUST trying to injur guys (if you don’t know the difference, it can’t be explained. You obviously never played a contact sport, or at least never understood the game you were playing), they cheated the cap. If a “240 lb linebacker” hits you and you break an ankle, it’s called “football”, welcome to the game, you may like it. If a “240 lb linebacker” dives at your knees when you are already engaged, it’s called a dirty play. That is why there are penalties for it.

    They paid players and didn’t report it. How much is irrelivant. They took money from a 3rd party to pay the players, another obvious violation, that puts anything the league does in doubt. If a 3rd party can pay player, how long before a guy singns a contract for 1 million a year, but gets paid another 4 on the side? How long before a guy slacks an entire game because a 3rd party paid him a million (while having 10 million bet on the other team)?

    You objection is almost as comical as your reasoning and understanding

  121. 4tigerbait says: Mar 21, 2012 4:00 PM

    I hate the black eye this leaves on our team who has done so much good in the Gulf communities. I don’t disagree with the ruling due to our leadership “lying”, but find it ridiculous that the is “no substantial evidence” against this going on in Washington, Tenn or Buffalo.

  122. q1ller says: Mar 21, 2012 4:05 PM

    The Saints knew they were breaking league rules. They were warned about it in 2010 and, even though they lied to cover it up, they were dumb/arrogant enough to continue. Therefore, they have nobody to blame but themselves, regardless the punishment!

    As for the punishment, I think that the team itself got off too easy… should have lost 2 firsts, or at least a first and a second.

    Finally, Drew Brees looks more and more like an idiot tool every time he opens his mouth.

  123. xenova1 says: Mar 21, 2012 4:05 PM

    I think Brees is questioning the severity of Peyton’s punishment and whether or not the punishment is justified. Most people were thinking a 4 game suspension, loss of draft picks and the expulstion of Gregg.

    Does the NFL have an explanation on how the punishment was decided? Did they base this on previous punishments? Is there something in the league’s rule book that explains the penalty. It sounds like Roger had an axe to grind and he grinded it on Peyton.

    Like Brees, I want to know how the punishment was decided. Was it a committee or was it Roger’s sole decision? Is it Roger’s attempt to show he is tough when it comes to player’s injuries? Is it all part of a defense the league is going to use to show their concern for players’ when they get sued by former players claiming brain injuries?

    I know alot of haters will applaud the punishment and many Saints fans will cry. I wish an appeal will examine the punishment in a non-bias way to see if there is a basis for the seemingly severe punishment.

  124. sixjak says: Mar 21, 2012 4:07 PM

    Wow this site is blowing up. It fits. The players should be allowed to play tough football WITHIN THE RULEBOOK. This was so far outside the scope and the ramifications were far beyond spygate. It’s not like NO hasn’t been the NFL feel good story darlings since Katrina. I’m not a Pats homer either. 9ers fan FTR & FTW.

  125. patpatriotagain says: Mar 21, 2012 4:07 PM

    not only did belichick not lie about it. the video taper was wearing patriots gear. not posing as a fan in the stands like every other team was doing

  126. ampats says: Mar 21, 2012 4:09 PM

    Deb,
    You go girl !!! You hit it right on the head.

  127. deconjonesbitchslap says: Mar 21, 2012 4:15 PM

    they even had $5000 to get Rodgers on a stretcher in week 1. more money if you took them out on a stretcher, and more if it was the playoffs.

    Every player on that defense should be banned from the league.

    they should lose 1,2,3 round picks for 5 years, and be fined atelast 25 million. any offensive player that knew about this should be banned for the year.

    they were out to put people in hospitals. the saints were a hit squad for 3 years. shame on you. that superbowl as far as im concerned is worthless now. you’re infamous.

  128. bangitfootball says: Mar 21, 2012 4:19 PM

    What a corporate wussy lawyer ruled politically correct league the NFL has become. WHAT A BUNCH OF PANSIES FROM THE TOP DOWN.

  129. cincyorangenblack says: Mar 21, 2012 4:21 PM

    aren’t defensive incentive laden contracts “related” to this but just in a more official capacity?….

  130. airnrodgers says: Mar 21, 2012 4:23 PM

    Hurricane Rodger just hit New Orleans

  131. djjasonpaul says: Mar 21, 2012 4:23 PM

    Roger Goodell sucks and is ruining the game of football. It’s a mans sport, it’s not soccer or baseball, hitting is part of the game. If they want to hit people hard they will no matter if there is money involved or not. This is another disgrace to football!

  132. zn0rseman says: Mar 21, 2012 4:25 PM

    Slap on the wrist.

    Ask any Vikings fan if they’d give up two second round picks to have the 2009 Lombardi Trophy.

  133. iamwhodat says: Mar 21, 2012 4:27 PM

    Free Sean Peyton!

  134. vikesfansteve says: Mar 21, 2012 4:29 PM

    Beyond being caught cheating, lying and denying having a bounty system is the officiating in the NFCCG. The officials ignored the late hits and low hits right in front of them. Not throwing flags and then having 5 straight replays called in the Saints favor when the 4th down replay clearly showed they were not only stopped short but fumbled. Bounties are basically a bribe. The real story is who bribed the officials to look the other way. Just like the refs in the NBA. The NFL needs to dig deep into investigating the refs. Same thing with the steelers vs Seahawks SB. The NFL is reluctant because dirty officials will taint the league forever. That is the real story though.

  135. ojordonez says: Mar 21, 2012 4:37 PM

    mortimeryoung says: Mar 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    I guess you gotta be a dynasty before you can really get away with cheating.

    LOL a dynasty?? They are far from that. A true dynasty is a team that dominates their sport for multiple seasons or years. Saints have one asterisk season after all this.

    LMAO dynasty…whew thanks for the laugh

  136. moseszd says: Mar 21, 2012 4:39 PM

    The Patriots didn’t lie. They didn’t cover up. They did break the rules. But they didn’t cover up.

    Also, about five years ago they put in place a new by-law that said coaches, front-office and ownership had to cooperate with NFL investigations. That’s why the Saints got so hammered. They lied about it for three years instead of coming clean and stopping.

  137. jnbnet says: Mar 21, 2012 4:42 PM

    fballguy says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:46 PM
    Didn’t Belicheat lie too? He said he hadn’t recorded prior to the Jets game Mangini blew the whistle on. Then quietly tapes were produced from the early 2000′s.

    ——————————————————-
    Child! Get your facts straight. It will make you look a little less stupid.

  138. bobhk says: Mar 21, 2012 4:50 PM

    marima07 says:
    Mar 21, 2012 2:47 PM
    Clearly the biggest sin in all of this was the Saints’ lying to the commissioner. The pay-for-injury system would still be punished, but the lying pushed Goodell over the edge.

    At least Belichick came clean right away when confronted by the league, otherwise I believe he would have been suspended too.
    ——————
    You guys are simplistic. Coming clean does not mean your penalty should be less.
    A guy who commits a murder can get a plea bargain if he admits to it but it’s not a given.

    Fact is Belicheat got off much easier. It should have been stiffer penalty. He should have served a 4 game suspension.
    All that said, Bounty gate is more serious.

  139. moseszd says: Mar 21, 2012 4:55 PM

    somekat says:Mar 21, 2012 3:59 PM

    They paid players and didn’t report it. How much is irrelivant. They took money from a 3rd party to pay the players, another obvious violation, that puts anything the league does in doubt. If a 3rd party can pay player, how long before a guy singns a contract for 1 million a year, but gets paid another 4 on the side?

    Eddie DeBartolo did that. $400K to Brent Jones. Cost the 49ers a 3rd and a 5th. And they self-reported the crime instead of trying to cover it up.

  140. bangitfootball says: Mar 21, 2012 4:58 PM

    Bill Romanowski

    * ✔

    @billromanowski

    Maybe there should be a bounty program on members of the league who have buried data on brain injuries for years. #hypocrisy
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    Oh please Bill, give me a break you hypocrite. Maybe if some NFL players werent steroided out,HGH out, and raged out during games things might be a little safer for the players lol.

  141. irishnativeson says: Mar 21, 2012 5:05 PM

    What if players got paid to make plays? What if they received bonuses for making outstanding plays and the bonuses increased for making more of them? At least they aren’t paying rookies exorbitant salaries anymore for their “reputation”. Chris Johnson is probably a poor example but he earned his rookie contract and Matt Forte did as well, only in a different way. Professional athletes aren’t known for their humble nature, youth and agility are finite propositions. “The game” is a business, it can bring glory, fame and wealth and some people never have to play a down. Being well past my athletic prime I’d still give a testicle to be able to play a game for money but that time has past, the possibility of becoming wealthy being associated with the game has not.

  142. packerbadger says: Mar 21, 2012 5:07 PM

    Who Dat?!

    Saints just got Datted!! lol

  143. irishnativeson says: Mar 21, 2012 5:32 PM

    Rule #1 don’t hire a commissioner who always looks like someone just hurt his feelings.

  144. deathmonkey41 says: Mar 21, 2012 5:37 PM

    Amazing how Goodall’s stance on destroying evidence in investigations because it’s not helpful to release it to the public has changed…. Does anyone know if his stomach has ever been pumped for Robert Kraft’s semen?

  145. honkerdawg says: Mar 21, 2012 5:54 PM

    Suspend the players for a year also

  146. iced107 says: Mar 21, 2012 6:22 PM

    “Plus, Bill Romanowski makes a good point here:

    Maybe there should be a bounty program on members of the league who have buried data on brain injuries for years. #hypocrisy”

    Portnoychunk: Oh yeah, because Romanowski is a bright, stand-up guy. Please.
    __________________________________

    I’d say you just made his point….

    Guestsinger: Didn’t he do steroids? Doesn’t that limit is credibility when it comes to discusses of protecting players. From themselves?
    ___________________________________

    Unless steroids are being linked to causing brain damage, thats not even the same thing remotely – at all.

  147. trapshoot says: Mar 21, 2012 6:34 PM

    Stiff penalty gives the NFLcredibility. Severe?, yes. Correct penalty? Another yes.

  148. jollyjoker2 says: Mar 21, 2012 7:08 PM

    You tell a bunch of dirt bags to knock it off …and they keep going for two more years! Wow. I would have banned them both for several years, more draft picks and seen that the GM was out on his ear.

  149. geauxmez says: Mar 21, 2012 7:12 PM

    soooo. there are players who have been charged for assault, aggravated battery, drug use, rape murder, and the list goes on…. but none of them were suspended for a year? Just when mr. goodell thinks he can make a buck. this has smelled fishy from the beginning.

  150. glowingstone says: Mar 21, 2012 9:10 PM

    Some of the NFL’s marquee (and most marketable) stars were targeted with bounties, and a year’s suspension is the penalty? My take-away from this is that the league knows that this is not a problem unique to the Saints. This isn’t a penalty to the Saints as much as it is a warning to the rest of the league.

  151. Deb says: Mar 21, 2012 9:25 PM

    @geauxmez …

    You do realize it’s the responsibility of the criminal justice system to punish people guilty of breaking laws, right? No one in the league found guilty in a court of law of those crimes has been just excused of punishment and sent back onto the field. The commissioner has no right to punish people simply for being accused of a crime with no evidence of wrongdoing–although that hasn’t stopped him from doing it.

    Your coach was guilty of taking money from a felon to fund an illegal program designed to cause serious injury to other players while cheating the salary cap. If you can’t understand how serious that is, you need to rethink.

  152. hairpie says: Mar 21, 2012 10:50 PM

    Deb is on a roll….

  153. tagg41 says: Mar 23, 2012 12:34 AM

    we have come back from KATRINA & we’ll make it through this(even with the haters) our defense is ok,but its our high powered offense that whens games. PAYTON is gone,but DREW BRESS is the real coach & play caller. he runs the whole team. he is the only QB that lead a teams chant! we will win in spit of goodell trying to stop us from breaking another record….1st team to play a home game super bowl. thats why we was targeted.

  154. Deb says: Mar 23, 2012 11:51 AM

    @tagg41 …

    Are you five? That is just a pitiful post. You weren’t targeted. Your coaches took money from a felon to bypass the salary cap and run an illegal bounty program to injure players. Why do you think a felon would want to fund your illegal bounty program if he weren’t hoping to make money on it? You know … by placing a few bets. The Saints are lucky the NFL has tried to sweep this thing under the rug as quickly as possible without revisiting your last Super Bowl run. Grow up.

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