Comments on: Saints were bracing for a four-game suspension for Payton

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:19:36 +0000

1, Brees should of thought of that before he dropped his joke of a law suit and agreed to a CBA that says suspensions are the at the sole discression of the NFL commissioner
2, Why would he need to “show” the evidence? The coaches have admitted it went on. There is no “if” question here
3, if nothing was done (and consider yourself lucky, many, myself included, think they got off light), the NFL would be a joke. Besides the fact of the imorrality of TRYING to injur (not hurt) a guy, you make the salary cap a joke by paying players and not reporting it, and you make the whole system suspect when a 3rd party that doesn’t even work for the team can contribute to it (i’ll just point out, without going in to, his felony record, and gambling ties)

By: 20bust11

20bust11 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:21:48 +0000

There has been no proof shown that the Saints injured other players. It isn’t on the tapes of the Saints games, and Goodell hasn’t shown anyone any proof, of any kind. Drew Brees nailed it when he stated, “I’d like to see the proof.”
Bear in mind, Goodell isn’t known for showing proof.
If he likes you, he destroys the evidence.
If he likes you, he slaps you on the wrist, lightly.
If he likes you, he allows you to keep the win where you were caught cheating.
Goodell is a power hungry Czar who should be banned from the NFL, indefinitely.
If the other 31 teams don’t come to the defense of this mockery of, “So-Called”, justice, they can expect the same nonsense to come their way.
Make that 30 teams. The Patriots are obviously excluded, as has already been proven.
If you are going to claim to have 18,000 pages of proof, then show it.
If you are going to be the punisher, show proof of the charge.
Goodell is a joke, and if the NFL doesn’t look into his nonsense, The NFL is doomed.

By: bucfansouthtampa

bucfansouthtampa — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:00:58 +0000

As a final twist of the knife, NFl should ban ‘Taints from all prime time games.

Look on the bright side, at least Payton can plan for the Number 1 draft pick for 2013.

By: ernie ernie

ernie ernie — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:51:54 +0000

You got to belieive the entire punishment for Payton is spelled out in large black letters. All we’ve been told is one year suspension and no pay.
He may have been instructed no contact in person or electronically during the games?

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:36:12 +0000

harrisonhits2 says:
Mar 21, 2012 11:53 PM
“sdisme says:
Mar 21, 2012 10:25 PM
Write the real story. Goodell flexed his muscle and is home kissing himself.

Belichick lies and gets a fine. This isn’t about lying. It’s about a lie.”
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Wrong. Belichick didn’t lie to the Commish after they were caught. He admitted it and turned over the tapes he had. Which probably included shots of other teams doing the same thing to the Pats that they were doing to other teams.

Belichick did ignore a league memo to stop doing so if you were engaged in that practice.

The Saints lied to the league during the investigation for 3 years repeatedly, including after they got caught.

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Belichick couldn’t lie…he was caught red-handed. I figured that it was only a matter of time until one of you New England douches would try and use this Saints controversy to whitewash the cheating that your team did. Congrats on being the first of many.

By: propertyofthebroncos

propertyofthebroncos — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:48 +0000

tduhe1- you clearly are a brainwashed saints fan as no one can deny how they acted was immoral and illegal not only in the NFL but in a court of law. if someone put a bounty on Brees you would be up in arms for someone’s head but since it was your beloved team you hate they were punished and honestly it should have been more severe. get over yourself and actually have some concern for the players.

By: kozmo50

kozmo50 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:57 +0000

They got what they deserved, the game is violent enough without having “bounties” placed on your head.

By: colaworld

colaworld — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:07:01 +0000

@ All of the people saying that Belichick deserved a year suspension too. Ill help you out for a moment.

The Patriots cheated, they video taped signals and yada yada. When the league investigated, they stopped, handed in the evidence, and took their punishment.

The Saints tried to take key players out of games through illegal late hits and cheap shots. When the league investigated them, Payton and the rest of them lied, hid evidence, and did not comply with the league. Also, while being investigated, the Saints continued to do the bounty thing for 3 more years.

Tell me, which one is worse.

By: blackqbwhiterb

blackqbwhiterb — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:06:44 +0000

What will Drew Brees do? Fascinating complex mess he’s in….

By: hscorpio

hscorpio — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:42:09 +0000

All the folks crying foul on Payton losing his $8 mil salary have taken jock sniffing to a new level. I guess we can call that “clipboard sniffing”. That large salary was all the more reason to take the investigation seriously and not lie to the league. He know what he was risking, even if he clearly did not consider the ramifications thoroughly enough. His choice, his consequence. Cry me a river.

Meanwhile, the Saints organization comes out +$7.5 million out of this “punishment”. Congrats, Tom Benson!

By: billh1947

billh1947 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:02:10 +0000

Are they stupid or what,three years this had been going on,even while they knew the NFL was investigating and they had to lie to Goodell to keep it going,the heat was on yet they continued their illegal activities,they all deserve lifetime suspensions for stupidity alone,they were better in some ways when they were the Aints,at least they were an honorable team back then who played by the rules. offensive players all over the NFL should be thanking Goodell in emails,after all its their hide he is looking to protect and this certainly will help them out.

By: wingsrule12

wingsrule12 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:30:32 +0000

I’m surprised the NFL didn’t try to find a way to blame part of this on Suh. Seems like his rep is so bad if something is wrong in the NFL blame him for it.

By: gmen1987

gmen1987 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:26:29 +0000

Commissioner Goodell pulled a trick play on that one. Fooled the Saints, came around for the sack on Sean Payton and knocked him out for the whole season.

Who Dat them there Saint fans wearing paper bags on their heads?

By: sudz28

sudz28 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:22:34 +0000

I’m still amazed at how closely he resembles Frankie Muniz (“Malcolm” from Malcolm in the Middle).

By: honkerdawg

honkerdawg — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:08:49 +0000

Stupid thing to do, even stupider to put it down on paper ; he deserves the suspension just for being stupid!

By: phillyforlife

phillyforlife — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:03:55 +0000

redstar504 says:
We can function without Payton we did fine last year when he broke his leg.
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Um Hello McFly! When he broke his leg he was in the coaches box upstairs, and was involved in every aspect of the game calling all the shots. With this he will be lucky to even be in the same state the games are to be played. What a stupid statement.

By: ole

ole — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 06:31:26 +0000

Jail the Saints! Criminal conspiracy to commit assault across state lines is a Federal offense. This is a criminal matter that extends beyond the boundaries of the playing field.

Any Saints player, coach or front office personnel involved should be indicted. After a fair trial, all guilty parties are expected to do time in prison. Just like anyone else in America.

This is no different than two guys from Jersey going over to Brooklyn and kneecapping a couple of wise guys. Fines and suspensions are not enough.

By: lnfinite

lnfinite — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:59:58 +0000

Should have forked over the tainted trophy too!

By: CKL

CKL — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:24:12 +0000

mikea311 says: Mar 21, 2012 10:17 PM

the whole “without pay” part is kind of harsh
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Ummm why? He should get 8 mill and not have to work? That’s called a paid vacation. I can’t stand when people get suspended w/o pay as a “punishment”. It isn’t one.
And no their SB is just fine…they earned it on the field with gameplanning and execution. Besides Manning wasn’t one of the guys they had a proven bounty on. “tainted championships”=lol And so is calling anything “SPY” anything when it is something done out in the open in front of 70k people (and everyone viewing on tv) who can all watch (and tape) the exact same thing being taped from the sidelines.

By: gimmeabruschi

gimmeabruschi — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:06:39 +0000

Goodell doesn’t like being lied to. You get an extra slap for that.

By: thraiderskin

thraiderskin — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:01:00 +0000

I am totally down with Williams’ suspension, but I find Coach Payton’s punishment a little harsh, I thought he’d get an 8 game. I guess I don’t understand what this really proves other than the NFL trying to look like they are taking every step, from here on out, to make sure players are safer. To me it smells like over compensation. Every other aspect of the punishment makes sense to me but Payton’s and Loomis’. In the end these men may have lied to the Commish, but this is a make up punishment, no doubt about that. Let’s not forget the loss of picks and all the money… to say otherwise smells of anti-saint bias (picture your team in this situation if it helps).

By: gmsalpha

gmsalpha — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:48:52 +0000

What is it about players and teams in the cities that are hosting the big events.

The PEYTON saga the year Indy hosted the Super Bowl.

The PAYTON saga the year NoLa hosts the Super Bowl.

The Dwight Howard saga the year Orlando hosts the All-Star Game.

Heck, even St. Louis having hosted half of the World Series (I guess) is having problems with the whole Edward Jones Dome fiasco and the loss of Albert Pujols.

Weird.

By: redstar504

redstar504 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:48:38 +0000

You have to love how the NFL works the punishments come down about a week after our non-refundable season ticket fees were due. I guess they had to allow enough time for all the checks to clear.

What a joke it is always about the $ but no worries this is just a bump on the road for a franchise that travels a road with a lot of bumps. We can function without Payton we did fine last year when he broke his leg. It’s just time for guys to step up. If the NFL suspends defenders that is fine too it’s not like the defense has been great so new guys might make us better.

Who Dat!! We can’t be stopped even by the Comish!!!

By: beej6

beej6 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:46:57 +0000

While I too was shocked at first at the severity of the punishment for Coach Payton, “upon further review,” the two things which warranted it are his lying / covering up the bounties, and the ongoing investigation/monitoring by the league. It’s not like the Saints had no warning about this.
And yes, they were made an example, and I expect other teams will take notice.

By: nineroutsider

nineroutsider — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:45:55 +0000

Congress, the league punished the Saints this harshly for Congress. This is the type of action that impresses congressional oversight committes enough to believe that the league is genuinely concerned about safety (and they are…now). The league doesn’t want government in football and neither do I.

Every team received the message loud and clear and that will help the league when they are summoned by Congress. Safety will become an even larger issue over the next decade.

Plus, let’s be honest, the Saints were brazen in their defiance of the League; the office would have no teeth if did much less. The league isn’t just getting on players anymore and I respect that.

By: packfaninchitown

packfaninchitown — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:44:13 +0000

You Saints fans blindly supporting your boy and crying about how unfair the punishment is remind me of all the Penn State kids defending the head coach that covered up for the pedophile…

By: lilb360

lilb360 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:41:02 +0000

Hey easy on the pill talk. Perks and Vikes are great, cept when you have to “brace” for a turd the size of a brick.
Note to Payton: can’t get your meds now that you don’t have a job? Come see me I got you bro.

By: pootytang66

pootytang66 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:36:42 +0000

As a long time suffering Viking fan I’m glad to see justice done. Although I don’t see the bounty as costing the Vikings a SB appearance (the 12th man in the huddle penalty and 6 turnovers did) Looking back at that title game I knew something was going on and Favre was on to it as well and was right. Those fans who are saying the penalty is too harsh should think about if it happened to their team. They’d be singing a different tune!

By: jdmastermind

jdmastermind — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:27:57 +0000

Here’s what the Saints need to do, First they need to get Drew Brees to sign a 1 year tender I guess it’s called and then trade him to the Indianapolis Colts for the number 1 pick in the draft and also get D.Freeney in the mix somehow some way. Then they either pick Robert Griffin or Andrew Luck, they are not going to the Super Bowl this year that’s obvious, but with Freeney and Luck they would make headlines news for the positive and also maybe just fire Shaun Payton that may sound crazy but it would be beneficial to the team and also get rid of Loomis who isn’t very good to even let this Drew Brees situation get to this point and he had something to do with the bounty’s too.
Some of the choices for head coach would be the usual cast of characters like Cowher, Billick Green, Mangini and so forth but,( I doubt it) but maybe even Rob Ryan if Dallas would let him go.
Spags is not a really good head coach yet and I don’t know about Carmichael yet but they could stay possibly in their positions if it is alright with the new head coach.

With Drew Brees in Indy they would be able to rebuild faster and he is proven to be a great leader and be on and off the field.
That’s just a suggestion but what do I know I am just a mastermind, “who callzz em AZ I seezzzz em”.

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By: sojudaddy

sojudaddy — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:26:24 +0000

Peyton (and everyone else) deserves what they got. What do you expect when you lie to the commish, and then continue with the bounty sytem for another 2 years? Nobody likes to be slapped in the face. Well Peyton now has a whole year to look himself in the mirror. Will be interesting to see what punishment is handed down to the players.