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Texans players don’t love the DeMeco Ryans trade

DeMeco Ryans,  Maurice Jones-Drew AP

On Tuesday night, Florio opined that the Eagles got the better of the DeMeco Ryans trade.

His assessment sounds like it would be a popular one in the Houston locker room. Jerome Solomon of the Houston Chronicle shared some text messages he received from current or former Texans players after news of the deal became public. Here’s a sampling of what Solomon heard from Ryans’ now-former teammates.

“Damn, man, and they talk about loyalty.” “They don’t what leadership means, do they? Bet they won’t finish No. 2 in defense next season.” “It’s an ugly business. We’re not the same team without him. Gonna take a lot to replace Meco.”

Tight end Owen Daniels asked “Seriously? Meco too??” on Twitter, which is surely a reference to the team’s decision to part ways with tackle Eric Winston earlier this offseason. Throw in defensive end Mario Williams‘ departure and there’s been a lot of longtime Texans walking out the door in Houston. Daniels is the only player left from the 2006 draft class that also included Winston, Williams and Ryans. The team was able to re-sign center Chris Myers.

There were easy explanations for all of the Texans’ moves, but that doesn’t seem to make it any easier for the remaining members of the team to swallow.

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  1. gregeer says: Mar 21, 2012 8:20 AM

    Just when the Texans look like they could be the AFC favorite they do this. Mario, Ryans, Winston and Brisiel will be big losses.

  2. evilboy128 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:20 AM

    combined with the offensive lines issues and losses in free agency, I wouldn’t pencil the Texans in as the AFC South favorites just yet.

  3. jenniferxxx says: Mar 21, 2012 8:22 AM

    Trades don’t happen in a vacuum. Usually they end up being pretty much for what the players involved are worth.

    30 other teams refused to up the ante on Ryans.

  4. cardmagnet says: Mar 21, 2012 8:25 AM

    Why would they? The Texans just went from one of the best defenses in the league in 2011 to mediocre with the loss of Williams and Ryans.

  5. peteynz says: Mar 21, 2012 8:25 AM

    Neither do fans.

  6. truthhurtstoo says: Mar 21, 2012 8:26 AM

    FAIL- looks like it’s back to the drawing board for the Texans

  7. deangelo1776 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:26 AM

    What a great job by the FO for that 2006 draft. It’s a shame they lost them in FA, but still, what a solid draft.

  8. sportsmeccabi says: Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM

    If Tennessee would just start Jake Locker, they might be able to make it to the playoffs this year the way the rest of the AFC South is shaping up.

  9. mexneck says: Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM

    I would go ahead and set there defense back a couple of years after these bonehead moves

  10. niquebchillin says: Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM

    They paid Foster and Johnson … Must’ve broke em …

  11. psuravens19 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:29 AM

    I really don’t understand what the Texans are doing? Without injuries to Schaub and Johnson, they could have easily been in the SB and I think they have a legit shot next year. Why would you let some of your core players walk or trade them? I’d be pissed if the Ravens did this.

  12. waltdawg says: Mar 21, 2012 8:33 AM

    Look here….I am a SKINS fan and this was an awful trade…Why would you help the Eagles to shore up their LB needs and only take a 4th round pick????!?!?!

    You can be stupid all you want, but when it comes to making an NFC East team better, please smarten up!

    Dumb Trade

  13. pencilmonkeymagic says: Mar 21, 2012 8:34 AM

    That division is going to be wide open.

  14. godzilla111111 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:34 AM

    psuravens19 says:
    Mar 21, 2012 8:29 AM
    I really don’t understand what the Texans are doing? Without injuries to Schaub and Johnson, they could have easily been in the SB and I think they have a legit shot next year. Why would you let some of your core players walk or trade them? I’d be pissed if the Ravens did this
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    Did you happen to notice the Ravens beat the Texans with Schaub on the field 29-14?

  15. flsnupe says: Mar 21, 2012 8:42 AM

    Despite popular opinion, Demeco play has fallen off, and his adjustment to the 34 has been slow. He is a great locker room guy, but its better to lose a guy a year too soon than a year too late.

    Also, there are some bigger contracts coming next year short sighted fans and players. They have to make room now to be able to sign them (Brown, Schaub) in a year where the cap will not move that much again.

    Houston fan let it play out. As a skins fan, I am personally looking forward to running the ball against philly. Meko just has not been the same player since his injury.

  16. khuxford says: Mar 21, 2012 8:43 AM

    I was about to come here and hate on the moves, too. But think about this: Demeco is universally recognized as a better fit for 4-3 than 3-4. There are several free agent ILBs out there that might be better fits for Houston’s scheme. This doesn’t take into account the leadership qualities an anonymous player referred to (who referred to the Texans as “they”, which makes me think they’ve left or plan to).

  17. wicky888 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:47 AM

    While it hurts to see so much talent walk out the door, from a business side they dropped a lot of salary that wasnt gelling with their new system. Either way the Texans will be fine, they are in an inept division which is now permanently Manning-less.

  18. htownking says: Mar 21, 2012 8:47 AM

    Ok, Ryans is a great leader and overall good guy, but let’s be honest. He wasnt good in the Texans 3-4 scheme. He’s been injured the last two years, before Sharpton got hurt they were splitting time. This trade also saves Houston money for next year so tht they dnt end up in this position again. Meco will b missed, but Houston will b okay.

  19. jagwar73 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:51 AM

    Why would the Texans make this trade for a mid-rounder? Doesn’t make sense. Surely they could’ve gotten a higher draft pick. The Eagles had to have been the first team contacted and jumped on the offer offer. Houston, ever heard of shopping around? Suckers!!!

  20. andyp03 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:52 AM

    @flsnupe

    LOL you’re a skins fan, you said it yourself. Who are you planning to run the ball with?!?

    Ok then.

  21. thekingdave says: Mar 21, 2012 8:54 AM

    It’s sad how stupid some of you are who claim to watch football. THE DEFENSE WAS #2 IN THE NFL WITH MARIO MISSING 5 GAMES AND DEMECO BEING A COMPLETE NON FACTOR. Teams just don’t dump solid players for zero reason coming off promising seasons. Also, lol @ the moron who said Briesel was a big loss.

  22. conormacleod says: Mar 21, 2012 8:55 AM

    This is hilarious. The Texans finally got good enough to start losing players to other teams? Welcome to the rest of the NFL Houston!

  23. txndave says: Mar 21, 2012 8:55 AM

    Loyalty seriously? As soon as they hit free agency and some other team offers them more money they leave in heart beat… so NO nfl player can talk about loyalty..

  24. rcampore says: Mar 21, 2012 8:55 AM

    As a Giants fan, I would tell Texan fans not to lose hope for a good season.

    Giants fans were feeling pretty confused by many moves the front office made last year by not bringing back Boss and Smith and no free agency moves. We also then lost several CBs to injury right in the beginning of the season and many thought we’ll barely make the playoffs and looked what happened to that team.

    It’s no sure thing, but if the Texans have any good depth and players can step up, maybe the season will not be as bleak as many might think.

  25. fnslidevick says: Mar 21, 2012 8:57 AM

    Houston fan let it play out. As a skins fan, I am personally looking forward to running the ball against philly. Meko just has not been the same player since his injury.

    ___________________________________

    Ha ha and who is going to be running the ball for the redskins?? Oh I know, you guys are going to have griffen running the ball most of the time huh. Meko hasnt been the same? Hes a 4-3 linebacker no a 3-4. Hey guess what the Eagles run?????????

  26. citnetter says: Mar 21, 2012 9:02 AM

    “Why would they? The Texans just went from one of the best defenses in the league in 2011 to mediocre with the loss of Williams and Ryans.”

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    Really? You do realize that Mario only played 5 games last year (after which was when the D really started to dominate) and Ryans was only on the field for 40% of the defensive snaps.

  27. The Prophet says: Mar 21, 2012 9:03 AM

    It is sort of funny that the Texans behaved like a team that just won the Super Bowl with the way they’ve let so many big names go in free agency as if they will rely on their “winning experience” and young players to fill their “loaded” roster.

    Last I checked they barely crossed the winning threshold last season and even had they kept those guys they have not proven themselves a sure thing by any stretch. No wonder the Texans are losers every year. Sorry Houston, but getting INTO the playoffs isn’t the same thing as winning the Super Bowl …

  28. jimyritz says: Mar 21, 2012 9:04 AM

    I don’t get this one….If Ryans is healthy then the Eagles just became a better defense..

  29. dryzzt23 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:08 AM

    Remember that the draft is next month and they can find a MLB in the draft

  30. texansfan13 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:08 AM

    Any Texans fan who watched the team last year should not freak out. DeMeco and Mario were non-factors last year. Mario was out hurt and the defense got better. DeMeco was off the field in passing situations, so he only played half the time and his stats were not good. He does not fit in Wade’s system. We can spend that money elsewhere and gain draft picks. The only 2 losses that are going to hurt are Winston and Brisiel. Butler and Caldwell are a step down there. Hopefully we draft at least one o-line player in the first 3 rounds. If the Texans want to continue to get better and build this team they have to correct these salary cap issues and hard choices have to be made. My biggest issue this offseason is that Jacoby Jones is still a Texan.

  31. pflynn20 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:11 AM

    Great trade for the Eagles. Always takes a year to recover from an Achillies injury. Ryans is a 4-3 linebacker and will be a a solid player for the Birds. I’m more excited for his leadership presence. Eagles defense has needed a defensive leader ever since #20 left. Finally have one again. Sore up the saftey position and get a DT in the draft and Fat Andy is just plain out of excuses…

    @flsnupe…As an Eagles fan I personally look forward to watching the Eagles sweep the season series again

  32. farmmbig says: Mar 21, 2012 9:13 AM

    Now I KNOW why they didn’t pursue Peyton Manning. Obviously, Houston is not serious about competing for championships.

    I’m feeling for you, Houston fans.

  33. thatguywhoisactuallyamiamisportsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 9:16 AM

    I wouldn’t be happy either. Are they trying to dismantle their playoff team? Losing Ryans and Williams definitely put them a step back.

  34. jgedgar70 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:18 AM

    Houston, Indy, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Oakland, KC, constantly underachieving SD, Cleveland, Miami…

    No wonder Peyton wanted to stay in the AFC.

  35. theandy59 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:19 AM

    This is what happens to good teams with good players….you have to lose some of them because you can’t keep them all. You also lose coordinators and assistant coaches. That’s why it’s so remarkable to look at what teams like the Colts, Patriots, and Steelers have done over the last 10 years or so….they lose key players but they just keep on winning with hardly a hiccup. Since 2000, those three teams have accounted for 10 of the 12 AFC Champions – New England (01,03,04,07,11), Pittsburgh (05,08,10), Indianapolis (06,09), and in the last 18 years, only three AFC Championship games didn’t feature at least one of those three teams.

  36. mrmilstead says: Mar 21, 2012 9:21 AM

    This is business. Cant pay 6 mil to a 2 down mlb. Cant pay 5.5 mil to an RT that cant pass block. We over paid these guys to stay with a bad team. Plus we have players who can place their on field production. ie Sharpton and Butler.

  37. therealhook says: Mar 21, 2012 9:23 AM

    Haha skins running the ball? Uhhhhh….. With who? Your rookie qb?

  38. djmic44 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:26 AM

    @flsnupe

    Dude your an idiot. Hi play fell of partially because he was getting over an injury an partially becuase they switched to a 3-4 defense. Do you know how hard it is to switch from playing a 4-3 to 3-4? no you don’t because you are an idiot and should just stop watching football. Redskins are lucky to have you as a fan. J*ckass

  39. steeelfann says: Mar 21, 2012 9:27 AM

    Bull, this team would have been in the super bowl this year before the Patriots if Schaub had not been injured.

    Signing Chris Myers was huge. They have the best offensive line in football and a great back to take advantage of it.

    They played about the whole year without Mario Williams and had a super bowl level defense.

    They have a fantastic wideout in Johnson. A good tight end in Owens.

    They have super young pass rushers.

    It saved the team overall not to have to re-sign Mario Williams. It will help the team down the road.

    In the 3-4, Demeco Ryans is not near as valuable and the middle backer in a 4-3.

    The Texans will be over the loss of Demeco by August in camp.

    This team is solid all the way around.

  40. k2308 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:30 AM

    Clearly Rick Smith is bitter about the great success of the final draft class brought in by Charlie Casserly. Getting rid of good players so he can get HIS guys in.

  41. infectorman says: Mar 21, 2012 9:34 AM

    Daniels is the only player left from the 2006 draft class that also included Winston, Williams and Ryans. The team was able to re-sign center Chris Myers.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    2006 draft class was a doozie for Houston.

  42. shady4hof says: Mar 21, 2012 9:34 AM

    Why would they? The Texans just went from one of the best defenses in the league in 2011 to mediocre with the loss of Williams and Ryans.
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    Williams was on IR when they were rated number one and Ryan doesn’t fit what they are doing scheme wise….it makes no sense to keep them just because fans think they are just as important as they once were.

  43. infectorman says: Mar 21, 2012 9:36 AM

    I really don’t understand what the Texans are doing? Without injuries to Schaub and Johnson, they could have easily been in the SB and I think they have a legit shot next year. Why would you let some of your core players walk or trade them? I’d be pissed if the Ravens did this.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Nothing is “easy” in the NFL. Temper your exaggerations…

  44. psuravens19 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:36 AM

    godzilla111111 says:

    Mar 21, 2012 8:34 AM
    psuravens19 says:
    Mar 21, 2012 8:29 AM
    I really don’t understand what the Texans are doing? Without injuries to Schaub and Johnson, they could have easily been in the SB and I think they have a legit shot next year. Why would you let some of your core players walk or trade them? I’d be pissed if the Ravens did this
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    Did you happen to notice the Ravens beat the Texans with Schaub on the field 29-14?

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    Did they really? Thanks for sharing, I must have blacked out or something while sitting in the stands!

    I was making a point that the Texans were/are a very strong team and if they had/have all the pieces together the entire year they, could win the AFC.

    I was also saying, I would be pissed if the Ravens let go or traded Suggs, Oher, and other key players on the team.

  45. klunge says: Mar 21, 2012 9:38 AM

    A shame, I kind of like the Texans as a second team to root for, they were finally looking like they got over the hump…then this.
    Lions FO had cap trouble too but found every creative way to make room to keep the pieces they wanted/needed. Seems like some teams just don’t want to make the effort required. Either that or they are supremely confident they will have another stellar draft and replace all those guys with rookie standouts…

  46. rolisrgti06 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:40 AM

    There is no doubt the Texan’s FO has some damage control to do in the locker room. However, as a Demeco and Texans fans, I still feel this was a good move for both teams. Once Texans players and fans get over being butt hurt, they will realize this was the right move.

    Everybody benefits here including Demeco.

    The Texans front office at least showed some class by trading him instead of out right cutting. That would have been wrong.

    Hey. I know the Eagles picked up at least one fan in Houston.

  47. eaglessuperfan says: Mar 21, 2012 9:42 AM

    I love when people comment that a player is in decline an obviously have just read stats. He did not adjust well to the scheme yes but that matters very little. The Houston beat writers all say he came on strong late in the year. The guy had 64 tackles only playing 58% of the snaps as opposed to 90% + in every other year. The guy has a very good chance of being a pro bowl player for the 4 years left on his deal.

  48. aeezie says: Mar 21, 2012 9:42 AM

    Skins fans have been looking forward to running against the Eagles for years now and their team still gets their asses blasted running or not!!!

  49. jaydale1 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:43 AM

    Great points flsnupe – this is a good deal for both teams. The players are complaining because he was the leader on the defense and a team leader. A 7 year vet coming off 2 major injuries with a huge contract and not a fit in the system – they would have to have cut him this year or next anyways.

  50. bhampax says: Mar 21, 2012 9:46 AM

    Lots of reasons for this:

    Demeco had a big cap number (I read somewhere it was $9 million).

    He did not come back the same way after his injury.

    He wasn’t a great fit for a 3-4 inside LB.

    The team feels that Sharpton can play at or better the level of play that Demeco brings in.

    The Texans got something for him (trade up in the 3rd + a 4th).

  51. mud5h0vel says: Mar 21, 2012 9:46 AM

    Holy Crap, WTF are the Texans doing!?!?!?!? or should i say NOT DOING!!

  52. pkswally024 says: Mar 21, 2012 9:46 AM

    Back to the 4-3 baby, let’s hope that Achilles has continued to sure itself up

  53. bennprince says: Mar 21, 2012 9:53 AM

    You people are clueless…

    “The Texans just went from one of the best defenses in the league in 2011 to mediocre with the loss of Williams and Ryans.”

    Really, after losing a player that was the shell of his former self after an Achilles tear and only played on first down. And another that didn’t play much at all last year. How are these big losses again?

  54. jacksaysfu says: Mar 21, 2012 9:54 AM

    @flsnupe : The Eagles trounced your Redskins twice using Matthews , Chaney , fokou etc. Do you really think your gonna run it down our throats with Demeco Ryans at the mike ? ….P.S. thanks for the 2 guaranteed wins you give us every year

  55. mrklutch says: Mar 21, 2012 9:56 AM

    flsnupe says:
    Mar 21, 2012 8:42 AM

    Despite popular opinion, Demeco play has fallen off, and his adjustment to the 34 has been slow. He is a great locker room guy, but its better to lose a guy a year too soon than a year too late.

    Also, there are some bigger contracts coming next year short sighted fans and players. They have to make room now to be able to sign them (Brown, Schaub) in a year where the cap will not move that much again.

    Houston fan let it play out. As a skins fan, I am personally looking forward to running the ball against philly. Meko just has not been the same player since his injury.

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    I look forward to the Redskins running the ball against the Eagles as well. First game, a whopping total of 42 yards. Second game of the season was a respectable 125 in mostly wash up time.

  56. cincyorangenblack says: Mar 21, 2012 10:01 AM

    I’d say Meco is the bigger loss. He was the heart of that D, and they ranked #2 overall while Super Mario was out for most of the year….
    not saying Mario wasn’t a beast, he was/is. But as far as chemistry, leadership, and getting the troops lined up- sounds like Meco was the real heart.

    -
    Not a Texans fan

  57. phillyfreak24 says: Mar 21, 2012 10:03 AM

    Demeco Ryans just didnt fit the 3-4 for the Texans and he played below 50% of the snaps last season. Brooks Reid is more than willings

  58. blue22ro says: Mar 21, 2012 10:04 AM

    cap casualty

  59. 3kdad says: Mar 21, 2012 10:09 AM

    On the surface it may not make sense to most. Texans couldn’t justify his paycheck. He was not on the field enough this past year in the 3-4. It’s being reported here in Houston that prior to the switch he was on the field 99 percent of the time and last season 57 percent. The money saved will be greatly needed next year. I am a huge fan of his but I get it.

  60. cmpenny says: Mar 21, 2012 10:15 AM

    Bet they would have been even MORE pissed off if Foster was let go, just saying!

  61. santolonius says: Mar 21, 2012 10:16 AM

    did the texans have a meeting after the season and say: “we were pretty good last year. what can we do to return to being average?”

  62. cowboyhater says: Mar 21, 2012 10:17 AM

    Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

  63. screwstontexans says: Mar 21, 2012 10:19 AM

    thekingdave says:
    Mar 21, 2012 8:54 AM
    It’s sad how stupid some of you are who claim to watch football. THE DEFENSE WAS #2 IN THE NFL WITH MARIO MISSING 5 GAMES AND DEMECO BEING A COMPLETE NON FACTOR. Teams just don’t dump solid players for zero reason coming off promising seasons. Also, lol @ the moron who said Briesel was a big loss.

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    Couldn’t have said it better! the 3-4 allows mediocre outside linebackers to thrive as long as they play their assignments and Brooks Reed did a fine job of that replacing Mario Williams…DeMeco wasn’t a hard loss, we got CUSH in there to fill up the gaps and I am sure sharpton will be back to help cush out but other then that, You people are stupid to say losing DeMeco and MArio will kill us because our defense thrived last year after Mario got hurt and DeMeco was beginning to be a non-factor.

  64. texans3four says: Mar 21, 2012 10:20 AM

    Great player and a true leader – a ‘vocal’ leader on a team with mostly ‘quiet’ leadership (Shaub and Dre for example). But recovering from that Achilles’ injury in 2010, PLUS a pre-season elbow injury that had him wearing protective gear on that arm all year may have factored into his low numbers in 2011. Going to miss him and wish him the best in Philly.

  65. phillyowns says: Mar 21, 2012 10:21 AM

    As an Eagles fan, I absolutely LOVE this trade. Only giving up a 4th round pick and a swap of 3rd rd picks is a steal for us. Now we finally have a proven LB who is also a leader. Love it.

    E A G L E S EAGLES!

  66. skipbayless says: Mar 21, 2012 10:25 AM

    Thanks for Demeco. Hes a monster healthy. Finally a LB who can tackle a floating plastic bag. Unlike Casey Mathews, Chris Gogong, Ernie Sims, Omar Gaither, Moise Fokou, Akeem Jordan, old Will Witherspoon and an old Trotter from 09. Jamar Chaney on the outside and another outside backer, holy snikeys the Eagles might actually have a solid LBs core. Not to mention need a LBs core to run the wide 9, Especially a tackling MLB.

  67. mhalt99 says: Mar 21, 2012 10:25 AM

    The Texans were one of the best defenses without Mario last year. Of course they would have been better this year and last with one of, if not the best d-end in the game the money saved on losing Mario and Ryans will be put to good use shoring up other areas of the team.

    Additionally, both Mario and Ryans are built for the 4-3, not the 3-4. While both players will excel in either scheme, it is the 4-3 where they both shine the brightest and are thus worth the most to the teams running those defenses.

    The Texans seem to have put Ryans in position to succeed on another team that has the pieces to be a contender, in effect they did “not do him wrong” and actually showed some loyalty by “setting him free”

    The Texans need respect for seeing past the hype and drafting Mario in the first place over Bush.

  68. flybirdsfly says: Mar 21, 2012 10:30 AM

    I would love if we would have gotten Wibley and DeMeco. I’ll take one above average LB. I really like Chaney on the weak side now we just need a strong side LB. London Fletcher and Curtis Lofton are still out there.

    Fly Eagles Fly!

  69. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Mar 21, 2012 10:34 AM

    gregeer says: Mar 21, 2012 8:20 AM

    Just when the Texans look like they could be the AFC favorite they do this. Mario, Ryans, Winston and Brisiel will be big losses.
    evilboy128 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:20 AM

    combined with the offensive lines issues and losses in free agency, I wouldn’t pencil the Texans in as the AFC South favorites just yet.
    cardmagnet says: Mar 21, 2012 8:25 AM

    Why would they? The Texans just went from one of the best defenses in the league in 2011 to mediocre with the loss of Williams and Ryans.
    truthhurtstoo says: Mar 21, 2012 8:26 AM

    FAIL- looks like it’s back to the drawing board for the Texans
    mexneck says: Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM

    I would go ahead and set there defense back a couple of years after these bonehead moves
    pencilmonkeymagic says: Mar 21, 2012 8:34 AM

    That division is going to be wide open.

    You’re all obviously huge football nerds. Go chat on ESPN or something with the rest of society.

  70. cdrion21 says: Mar 21, 2012 10:48 AM

    Great trade for the eagles. As a skins fan i hate it tho.Haha. Seriously tho they just robbed the Texans

  71. Andre's Johnson says: Mar 21, 2012 10:51 AM

    Knowledgeable Houston fans know this is a win-win trade. The Eagles get a solid 4-3 MLB, and the Texans get upgraded draft positions. You can’t pay a 2-down ILB six million dollars. He wasn’t a good fit in Wade Phillips’ system. He’s slower and more tentative than he used to be. I think Eagles fans are a little too giddy. Ryans has had two major injuries in recent years…he’s not the same guy. He’ll be above-average in a 4-3, but he’s not great anymore.

  72. fnslidevick says: Mar 21, 2012 10:52 AM

    Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

    ___________________________________

    How many probowls do all three of these stud backs have combined????

  73. jackshine says: Mar 21, 2012 10:57 AM

    When teams switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 they can often dump their best defenders for much less than theyre worth.

    Instead of tagging Mario and getting a 1 in return he walks and theyll settle for a compensatory pick. (Some say thats a dick move, this is a business. Players couldve fought Franchise tag in new CBA. BB tagged and traded Cassel for an early No. 2)

    Demeco gets sent out basically for cap room.

    Wade Phillips was a bad move. They had a great core group for a dominant 4-3 defense. The idea hes gonna get “his guys” and be just as good is false, the oppurtunity cost of having to go after a whole new group of defenders stalls them from finding needs elsewhere, a la true no. 2 wr to help Andre and upgrading the o line.

  74. thebricam says: Mar 21, 2012 11:10 AM

    I don’t buy the talk that the texans will be a worse defense next season. Mario played all of 5 games and Memo was half the man he was 2 seasons ago before his injury. and they still had a great D. all the other pieces are still in place to remain atop the afc south

  75. jrod691 says: Mar 21, 2012 11:27 AM

    Once again I can’t believe you don’t include what the actual trade was in this article. When you do it again I guess I won’t be surprised.

  76. Philadelphia says: Mar 21, 2012 11:29 AM

    If I was a Texans player, or fan, I’d be pissed too!!!

  77. cowboyhater says: Mar 21, 2012 11:34 AM

    fnslidevick says: Mar 21, 2012 10:52 AM

    Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

    ___________________________________

    How many probowls do all three of these stud backs have combined????

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    Silly eagles fan. These are kids who just came out of college, and ran very well last year. We actually use more than one back to operate this offense. It will be interesting for sure this season. Enjoy your mediocre season again with that offensive line coach/defensive coordinator wannabe. At least skins fans are realistic about what type of season we will have with a rookie qb. Eagles fans keep getting fooled by their front office with these pick ups, just to have another disappointing year. Have fun looking up at the Giants, and Cowboys.

  78. geo1113 says: Mar 21, 2012 11:37 AM

    jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 21, 2012 8:22 AM
    Trades don’t happen in a vacuum. Usually they end up being pretty much for what the players involved are worth.

    30 other teams refused to up the ante on Ryans.

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    That assumes that all 30 were interested and able. So while you are correct that trades don’t happen in a vacuum, any team close to the salary cap limit could not have made a deal for Ryans. Any team (e.g. SF, Chicago, and Carolina) that felt it was set for ILB would not make the deal. Throw in that Ryans is a 4-3 MLB, and you only have a couple teams that really could have bid on him if they even had draft picks available for the deal.

  79. djmic44 says: Mar 21, 2012 11:38 AM

    cowboyhater says:Mar 21, 2012 10:17 AM

    Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA seriously!
    Helu and royster didn’t run for 1,000 yards this year combined. 1st game vs. Philly and our scrub LB’s 42 total yards 2nd game which was the last game of the season against more of our scrubs 130 total rushing yards. yeah were scared of your rushing attack

  80. wydok says: Mar 21, 2012 11:44 AM

    I hate to gloat, but the Eagles got Ryans for a song. I’m really surprised. I hope he’s 100%.

  81. cowboyhater says: Mar 21, 2012 12:01 PM

    djmic44 says: Mar 21, 2012 11:38 AM

    cowboyhater says:Mar 21, 2012 10:17 AM

    Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA seriously!
    Helu and royster didn’t run for 1,000 yards this year combined. 1st game vs. Philly and our scrub LB’s 42 total yards 2nd game which was the last game of the season against more of our scrubs 130 total rushing yards. yeah were scared of your rushing attack

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    Not trying to sound like a broken record, but I have to use the same comments for you as I did for the other disillusion eagles fan:

    Silly eagles fan. These are kids who just came out of college, and ran very well last year. We actually use more than one back to operate this offense. It will be interesting for sure this season. Enjoy your mediocre season again with that offensive line coach/defensive coordinator wannabe. At least skins fans are realistic about what type of season we will have with a rookie qb. Eagles fans keep getting fooled by their front office with these pick ups, just to have another disappointing year. Have fun looking up at the Giants, and Cowboys.

  82. rajbais says: Mar 21, 2012 12:25 PM

    For the Texans, I feel similarly.

    It seems that because of the way things went in 2011 they now have this arrogance where they feel that they can win with anybody!!!

    Who’s going to get cut next, Johnathan Joseph, Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson????

    Sorry, but when Eric Winston and DeMeco Ryans get shipped I would not be shocked to see bigger names cut!!!

  83. alecitrullo10 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:30 PM

    really dont understand what Houston is doing. They were really on the way up. If Matt Schaub was healthy they had a real legitimate shot at beating the Ravens in the playoffs this past year. Rookie mistakes by a rookie quarterback was the difference in that one. Very disappointed to hear about this trade.

  84. darthsaint says: Mar 21, 2012 12:32 PM

    I learned a LOOOONG time ago, as a fan, you have to trust your front office. Unless of course they have proven time and time again that they are clueless. I don’t think the Texans have done this though. In fact, I think as far as front office moves go, they’ve done better than most.

    The free agent signing of Schaub, giving Foster the chance at RB and then getting him at a decent long term contract, good to great draft picks.

    With all that said…I have to believe they know something we don’t. Either they have someone else in the wings they feel will be more dynamic. Wade didn’t like how Meco played in the 3-4 perhaps, much like Vilma didn’t transition well with the Jets and got traded to my Saints.

    Point is…good teams don’t just give away players. McNair seems as committed to winning as any owner in the NFL. They are making moves for the betterment of their franchise. Us fans just don’t see how the moves make sense with the 20% we know. Texans fans…trust your front office. Even when they make difficult decisions like this.

  85. mobuccsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 12:33 PM

    I just wish teams knew he was even on the block…TB could have made that deal easily. Heck I would have even just straight up gave the third round pick for this guy. He would be a great MLB and should do well back in his natural position with the Eagles. Oh well, hopefully Tampa finds the next Derrick Brooks in this draft. I can hope and dream right?

  86. mobuccsfan says: Mar 21, 2012 12:39 PM

    I still think Texans will be fine….they showed a lot of depth on defense last year as it is. I think they need another great receiver to go with AJ, they need db and secondary help/strength and will no doubt find a gem or two for that DL and LB corps in the draft or FA still. And I still think it would be strength vs. strength, two top defenses next year in the Superbowl….Lions vs. Texans!

    Okay, that is the Superbowl I want to see, no guarantees, I just think if both teams shore up secondary and lb corps, and protect their QBS and have strong running games, and right now I think they are two teams closest to having those ingredients (as odd as that may sound after so many years of poor management/lesser teams) and are poised to be competitive the next four to six years.

  87. shootahcowboy says: Mar 21, 2012 12:44 PM

    Texans = Marlins – World Championships.

  88. dlew2191 says: Mar 21, 2012 12:58 PM

    Texans didn’t really play with Ryans or Williams down the stretch anyway, which is when their defense was at its best.

    Their linebacking corps was stacked anyway with Brooks Reed, Connor Barwin, Brian Cushing, Mario Williams, and DeMeco Ryans.

    Winston was released, and these two LBs didn’t really play much last season anyway, so the Texans’ D will be fine.

  89. eaglesw00t says: Mar 21, 2012 1:09 PM

    cowboyhater says:
    Mar 21, 2012 11:34 AM
    fnslidevick says: Mar 21, 2012 10:52 AM

    Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

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    How many probowls do all three of these stud backs have combined????

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    Silly eagles fan. These are kids who just came out of college, and ran very well last year. We actually use more than one back to operate this offense. It will be interesting for sure this season. Enjoy your mediocre season again with that offensive line coach/defensive coordinator wannabe. At least skins fans are realistic about what type of season we will have with a rookie qb. Eagles fans keep getting fooled by their front office with these pick ups, just to have another disappointing year. Have fun looking up at the Giants, and Cowboys.

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    Ahh yes…remind me again how many times in the last decade the Giants and Cowboys have ended the season on top of the Eagles?

    You dont say…

  90. fnslidevick says: Mar 21, 2012 1:27 PM

    Ha ha a redskin fan telling Eagles fans that were going to finish behind the cowboys and the giants?? huh!!!!!!!! What about your team??

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