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Joe Horn blasts Roger Goodell over Saints’ punishment

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When Joe Horn played for the Saints, he was fined $30,000 for using a phone as a prop during a touchdown celebration. That seemed like a harsh punishment, but it’s a slap on the wrist compared to the yearlong ban that Saints coach Sean Payton got yesterday for the team’s bounty scandal. And Horn says Payton’s punishment went way too far.

Horn said on SiriusXM NFL Radio that he thinks the punishment NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell levied against Payton and the Saints shows that there needs to be a check on Goodell’s power.

“All I’m saying is this right here, man: The man got too much damn power,” Horn said of Goodell, via USA Today. “For him to come down and do that? And, you know, it’s the players’ fault, because they should ask for his damn job. He’s just not a fair commissioner.”

Horn referenced comments from Steelers linebacker James Harrison, who called Goodell a “crook” and a “devil” and a “puppet” and a “dictator” in an interview last year.

“He’s exactly what James Harrison said he was to me,” Horn said. “Everything James Harrison said he was, to me, today confirmed that with the commissioner as far as I’m concerned. And I know I’m retired and it really don’t matter to him but the players, the ones that are active, should ask for his damn job.”

Horn said Goodell busted Payton and the Saints for activities that are commonplace in the NFL.

“Quiet as it’s kept, we all had big hits and we all had money pots for big hits. It wasn’t a bounty, but we all had big hits and we got paid for knocking guys out of the game,” Horn said.

It’s not clear what Horn means when he says “we got paid for knocking guys out of the game” right after saying, “It wasn’t a bounty” — that sounds exactly like a bounty. But it is clear that Horn, like a lot of Saints past and present, is not a fan of Goodell’s right now.

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  1. ravensgrl says: Mar 22, 2012 3:19 PM

    Does he remember that Payton is a coach, right?

  2. trevor123698 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:25 PM

    Stop acting like “puting a player out of the game” and getting paid for it is a bounty. Its not, and the guys who genuinely are going after knees and heads are going to get theirs from the big man upstairs in the end anyways. People are stupid in their views of these bounties and anybody who is saying these suspensions are fitting just doesn’t know sports in general, not even just football. Football is a game where no matter who you are you will likely take a vicious beating on a good portion of the downs you play, and to knock a guy out of the game is outplaying him. He couldnt handle the pain (that we’re all in). STOP TURNING SPORTS INTO POLITICS. We fact enough police power throughout our day to day lives.

  3. ajw4277 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:26 PM

    Roger Goodell for president! LMAO. It will be hell on Earth!

  4. aaroncurryisbust says: Mar 22, 2012 3:26 PM

    What an idiot. If anything, this punishment was too light!

  5. skolvikesskol says: Mar 22, 2012 3:34 PM

    Penalty was just! Thumbs if u agree.

  6. wicky888 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:34 PM

    Well if Joe Horn said it, it must be true ……..

  7. reggiebush25 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    Buy Joe Horn’s Bar BQ sauce…it makes U talk like an idiot…

  8. annes22 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    Know one cares what Joe Horn says. They are obviously guilty, too bad you don’t like the results.
    You were all “in it” so get on with the punishment, and no one feels sorry for you.
    I am sure Roger Goodell is going to worry about what Mr Horn says. He’s in charge so ‘pay up” and “shut up”.

  9. abshire22 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    Who cares what Joe Horn has to say about anything?

  10. nineroutsider says: Mar 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    All they had to do was stop it when asked to the first 3 times and we all would never have known about it, swept under the rug.

    It wasn’t so much the bounties as it was the defiance. The Cowboys and Redskins have learned too that being in the league is a privilege and just like players, no one is above the law…so to speak.

    Besides the fact that I like to tweak Saints fans so I don’t like writing this, but the punishment is way harsh! But…someone is always the example; happened to me BIG TIME in high school, but I learned.

  11. rc33 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:36 PM

    You guys missed a layup of a headline:
    “Joe blows his Horn over Goddell’s punishment for Saints”
    Something akin to that..

  12. rwf1984 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:37 PM

    Well how does he expect Roger Goodell to serve a punishment? We all knew it was going to be big that way it sent the whole league a message! In my opinion some of it was surprising, but some of it I think should have been more like Gregg Williams never allowed to coach in the NFL ever again!

  13. insidej0b says: Mar 22, 2012 3:37 PM

    Joe Horn knows that Joe Horn is right about Goodell.

  14. athoula707 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:37 PM

    Horn is Just acting like cry baby and don’t even know what the hell he is saying

  15. nemysys23 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:38 PM

    I wonder if Joe Horn will ever stop being dumb…

  16. dchuwo says: Mar 22, 2012 3:38 PM

    Memo to Joe Horn: Better to be thought of a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

  17. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Mar 22, 2012 3:38 PM

    Does Benson feed his employees stupid pills? Every time a Saints player/coach opens their mouth, something completely assinine dribbles out. Or maybe their all just blind a deaf and can’t read the reports or the fact that Goodell has pointed out that in this case, like many others, the coverup was worse than the crime itself.

  18. emperorzero says: Mar 22, 2012 3:39 PM

    Payton and the Saints flat out lied for three years about the bounty program . I don’t see how even the most die hard Saints fan could defend the program. I’m surprised Loomis only got 8 games considering he knew of the program and is even further up the ladder than Payton. He should have received a year as well.

  19. bigred12 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:39 PM

    why the hell should we care what Joe horn thinks about it? I’m already sick of hearing from everyone and their mother about this. I know it’s a bit deal and everyone has an opinion, but why does everyone have to chime in? enough already.

  20. doe22us says: Mar 22, 2012 3:39 PM

    Paging or calling Joe Horn, nobody cares what you think or your opinion. Have a nice life.

  21. hunternuts says: Mar 22, 2012 3:40 PM

    How did it take you almost 24 hours to post this? This interview was on Movin The Chains yesterday around 4pm.

  22. bensstinkyfingers says: Mar 22, 2012 3:41 PM

    Great Joe just give him more ammo,by saying you all did it, now the whole nfl will get suspended, and we will be forces to watch the Lingerie Football League which in essence is what the NFL is destined to become.

  23. mctyboy35 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:41 PM

    Mark my words, Goodell will ruin this game. As crazy as it sounds now, he will singlehandedly wipe NFL football off the map if he continues at this rate. Profootballtalk talk and all of its popularity will be deminished as well. Goodell needs to go. I’m not even a Saints fan, just damn tired of his ways and inconsistencies. Get rid of him and save our game.

  24. 3yardsndust says: Mar 22, 2012 3:41 PM

    Just play by the rules.

  25. blacknole08 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:42 PM

    I really don’t understand the hatred for Goodell. The NFL is alot more popular under him than it was under Tagliabue. He has cleaned up the game and held players/coaches/teams accountable for their actions. Why is that a bad thing?

  26. numberoneinthehoodg says: Mar 22, 2012 3:42 PM

    He might be taken more serious if he had a grasp on the English language.

  27. kd75 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:43 PM

    Joe Horn would call Goodell himself but he left his cell phone in the goal post.

  28. bucrightoff says: Mar 22, 2012 3:43 PM

    The reactions from the Saints, both current and former, has been so arrogant I really hope they find a way to make the punishments worse. You cheated, you got caught. Move on.

  29. nathan702nelson says: Mar 22, 2012 3:43 PM

    Why are the players of that team trying so hard to defend their teammates and coaches, when it’s already said and done? Cry me a hurricane.

  30. dspohn55 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:43 PM

    I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I like Goodell. He is very stern and rules with an iron fist, but I do think he’s fair.

  31. vonmiller58 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:44 PM

    If players aren’t fans of the commissioner that means he’s doing his job right.

  32. wallacejay says: Mar 22, 2012 3:45 PM

    He’s too busy listening to himself on the radio to realize what’s actually coming out of his mouth.

  33. mvp43 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:45 PM

    What a complete dope. Thank god they can play football because that way I won’t have to supports these idiots on my tax dollars. Geez

  34. onereasonableman says: Mar 22, 2012 3:45 PM

    How did Horn get paid for knocking guys out of a game. Wasn’t he a wide receiver???

  35. ballergac says: Mar 22, 2012 3:47 PM

    Joe Horn…. shut up! You think Goodell is some kind of dictator? Please, without being in his office he has a team discussing issues, punishments, etc. He’s not a one man wrecking crew.. what would you have him do? Oh its ok if a team who has been constantly warned to injure players? Joe Horn and to most players the league would fold or suffer if it were in your hands. I think we have the best commissioner in sports. This coming from a 27 yr old, Mexican American who has been watching football since 92. I’m glad he cleans up the game. We don’t want jokers, we want good, hard, clean football. So I applaud Roger. Good job Commish

  36. shaner1970 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:57 PM

    Joe Horn is an idiot. If you continue with these “bounties” even after the league tells you not to, you deserve every inch of the pain. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

  37. effjohntaylornorelation says: Mar 22, 2012 3:57 PM

    It just doesn’t matter when they leave the ‘hood. It will always be too late…

  38. aoc57 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:57 PM

    Like I heard on ESPN radio this morning..”With this penalty is the message received?”…..”Absolutely”.

  39. dachozen1 says: Mar 22, 2012 3:59 PM

    This guy gets it. This is not even football anymore. People like controversy and it sells. People like to see the downfall of something so they naturally have that off with his head mentality.

  40. sbxxix says: Mar 22, 2012 4:00 PM

    What is everyone complaining about?!! They did this for 3 years!!! What they did could have potentially ended some player’s careers and they got a super bowl in one of those seasons and it was obviously due to the fact that they were laying dirty hits an old man time after time after time trying to get him out of the game. I think the punishment is fair. The only people complaining are Saints fans. Who dat on the sidelines?… Not Payton in 2012 lol. Suck it up and play without your coach. As far as Roger Goodell goes, I think he’s doing a good job. Maybe lay back a little on the fines for the hits but overall he has done a great job. The NFL is moving in the right direction.

  41. smo05d says: Mar 22, 2012 4:02 PM

    What I don’t understand is how former and current players argue

    “Quiet as it’s kept, we all had big hits and we all had money pots for big hits. It wasn’t a bounty, but we all had big hits and we got paid for knocking guys out of the game,” Horn said.

    But then they try to sue the NFL for the lasting physical effects of playing in the NFL by claiming the NFL didn’t share with them the dangers of playing in the game. Um, hello? You just admitted that you knew that players were trying to INJURE other players intentionally – and that’s commonplace. Players were harming other players intentionally–outside the bounds of the game–but then they argue that no, it is within the bounds of the game because that’s football. So how can you argue that you had no notice of the dangers physically when you just admitted that “we all got paid for knocking guys out of the game”? You got paid for it, you had notice of it. You intentionally tried to injured other players – which means you knew that it would causing physical harm and likely permanent physical harm. Say goodbye to a successful lawsuit if this can be proven more fully.

  42. dohpey28 says: Mar 22, 2012 4:03 PM

    This is the same jerk who hid a phone in a goal post that led to the crack down on celebrations. Guess the Saints are good at ruining stuff for everyone else. Loser.

  43. sbxxix says: Mar 22, 2012 4:07 PM

    Maybe they should let Payton come back but allow other teams to put bounties on his players. I want to see what the saints would say to that. 10k for Brees and Colston. Yeah it’s not cool being on the other side of the fence huh. Stop complaining and take it like a man the way Favre did in the NFC Championship.

    Oh btw 49er fan here. Not hating, we beat you guys last season.

  44. possiblecabbage says: Mar 22, 2012 4:07 PM

    To my knowledge “But officer, everybody else speeds too” has never gotten anybody out of a speeding ticket. I don’t know why anybody thinks a similar argument would excuse a more egregious offense.

  45. iowapackfan says: Mar 22, 2012 4:07 PM

    The players cannot get the commissioner fired even if they wanted. The commissioner is hired by and works for the owners. If the players have issues they want addressed, they are once again in a union and that is what they have De Smith for. They can try to address things through their union, or they can try to assist with appeals processes, but they can do nothing to get Goodell fired unless they can persuade their team owners to collectively fire Goodell and hire someone else… It just goes to show how stupid Horn’s comments are…

  46. conormacleod says: Mar 22, 2012 4:07 PM

    Joe Horn: “I would like to confirm that the Saints had bounties on other players. I knew about it when I was there, and I condone, and even like it. That is all”.

    BTW: The billionaire owners that own the teams are the ones that seem to like Goodell, and are the ones that have given him said power. What a retired mediocre WR says means absolutely nothing to the billionaire owners.

  47. getthegleam says: Mar 22, 2012 4:10 PM

    I used to respect Joe Horn…USED. This is America and I believe in free speech whether the comments made were disgusting or commendable…but at some point in life do some of the athletes look back and think to themselves “Man, I sounded like an ignorant bastard back then.”

  48. pigskin28 says: Mar 22, 2012 4:15 PM

    One idiot citing amother in making an idiotic point.
    Horn referencong Harrison is like a serial killer citing Daumer.
    Dude, get a clue.

  49. macbull says: Mar 22, 2012 4:15 PM

    Joe Horn is correct, Goodell has too much power and enjoys using that power way too often.

    Roger Goodell is the NFL owner’s problem…they hired him and they can fire him.

    When the NFL owners have had their fill of this power hungry commish, they will vote Roger off the island.

    Can’t come soon enough, IMO.

  50. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 22, 2012 4:16 PM

    “trevor123698 says:
    Mar 22, 2012 3:25 PM
    People are stupid in their views of these bounties and anybody who is saying these suspensions are fitting just doesn’t know sports in general, not even just football. ”

    You are clueless. What they did was accept money to injure another person. That is a felony. If I paid another PFT poster to hurt you and we were caught, both of us would go to jail.

    There is a significant difference between making a hard hit that maximizes pain caused but does not injure someone, and making any hit possible, illegal or not, and intentionally injuring someone.

  51. theytukrjobs says: Mar 22, 2012 4:18 PM

    People defending the Saints keep talking like every team is run like this. That is so far from the truth. There is no evidence supporting this other than people from the Saints saying it is widespread.

    Saints knowingly violated the rules to gain a competitive advantage, all the while lying about it and instructing everyone on the team to lie about it. Dat der is cheatin. Tainted superbowl fo sho.

  52. notthekiller says: Mar 22, 2012 4:21 PM

    Is it me or does it seem funny that players like “Joe Horn” who refer to themselfs in the “third person”, always sounds dumb for doing so?

  53. jc327 says: Mar 22, 2012 4:22 PM

    The continued defiance of the Saints players over this and the refusal to acknowledge the wrong that was done only serves as a window into the culture of the team.

  54. luckyjackcrew says: Mar 22, 2012 4:23 PM

    Joe who?????

    Maybe we should see what Tinker Owens thinks???

  55. geauxmez says: Mar 22, 2012 4:28 PM

    i agree with Goodell having too much power.. there needs to be somewhat of a democracy, rather than a blatant dictatorship. I am a life long Saints fan, and I agree that Payton (among others) should have been punished, but taking away a mans job for an entire year is just asinine. Millionaire or not, that is a years worth of paychecks. A years worth of paychecks, while still being under an NFL contract. Put yourself in his shoes, I bet you wouldn’t like it so much.

    still screaming whodat

  56. guppies66 says: Mar 22, 2012 4:30 PM

    Horn proves again that he is a piece of trash.

  57. bobhk says: Mar 22, 2012 4:30 PM

    Horn is a really stupid guy.
    I’m just waiting for when he/his family files a lawsuit against NFL for his brain trauma…

  58. monsterscream says: Mar 22, 2012 4:34 PM

    Horn ‘asked for’ WR coach Hubbard Alexander’s job when he used a phone as a prop during that touchdown celebration. He was fired after the season.

  59. EJ says: Mar 22, 2012 4:35 PM

    The whole Bounty thing was wrong, the coaches knew it, the players knew it. It should never had been done, period. Aiming to take a player out for the game, season or worse career is a horrible, horrible thing to do. Not that any player in the NFL makes peanuts, cause they all make good money, but imagine a player having his career ended on purpose, who will feed and house their family? Its just wrong. As for the punishment, I think it wasn’t enough… Payton should have been suspended a year, fined and be put on probation by the league. Williams, banned from pro football for life, Its just not right, IMO.

  60. whoknowsnothing says: Mar 22, 2012 4:36 PM

    Ask him what he thinks about Pete Rose punishment.

    Pete was only trying to make a couple of bucks, not hurt people.

    Goodell made a tough choice and a good one. He was also lied to and Peyton knew about it and did nothing.

  61. melikefootball says: Mar 22, 2012 4:36 PM

    The NFL player who feel he is above the game—well Horn here comes the judger his name is GOD-Del.

  62. johntonioholmes says: Mar 22, 2012 4:40 PM

    I actually think Goodell got it right for once.

    I think it was a joke how he punished the Pats and the Broncos for illegally videotaping the sidelines.

    I thought it was a joke how Kenny Britt and Cedric Benson faced multiple charges from the law, but essentially nothing from the league (Benson got suspended 1 or 2 games…big whoop).

    Goodell overreacted when three player knocked out last year, and then he imposed a fining system that was totally inconsistent.

    This year, he suspended Suh after he stomped on someone and Harrison after he made a borderline hit. Kam Chancellor was spared, despite helmet to helmet hits in 3 consecutive games.

    Clear violations of the defenseless player rule were sometimes left entirely unaddressed, while certain players got shafted simply because they have a name.

    For once, Goodell reacted properly. And if anymore bounties are found, he should impose the exact same punishment.

    But you can bet your bottom dollar that when other bounties are found (and other will be found), Goodell won’t drop the hammer like he did here.

    Because he is a joke and only acts when there is a media outcry.

  63. 4thqtrsaint says: Mar 22, 2012 4:40 PM

    I love how any former or current Saint who has a problem with the penalties are getting the verbal beatdowns.

    Nobody is going to agree with anything they say, so I’m not sure why those players keep giving their opinions about it.

    As I’ve said before, I’m all for the penalties on my team. I get it.

    The only problem I have are with the Bob “Walk with Jesus” Costas, self-righteous fans and media types.

    If anyone is truly this blind to what really goes on in the NFL, that this “scandal” shocks you, then you are an idiot. 

    There are other “scandals” that have not yet come out. If you think this game is clean, you are an even bigger idiot. Ask any player what happens at the bottom of a pile of bodies scrambling for a loose ball.

    I’m not saying what my team did was right… I’m just not pretending this is an “outrage”. The only reason its a black eye is because they got caught. Doesn’t mean things like this haven’t happened or will continue to happen in this league.

    Time to grow up and face reality.

  64. klunge says: Mar 22, 2012 4:50 PM

    At last! I was just thinking to myself, “Why hasn’t Joe Horn chimed in on this matter yet?” Good things come to those who wait!

    Ironic that players sue the league when they suffer post-career health issues, when they are causing each other the extreme injuries that lead up to it, and apparently doing it on purpose. Yet some are defending the bounty system or minimizing it at least. Why aren’t they suing the NFLPA or their fellow players for their suffering?

  65. itsjustmesg says: Mar 22, 2012 4:54 PM

    4thqtrsaint-
    Interesting to think you have a better grasp of what goes on in the league than Costas or anyone else for that matter. The actions taken by the Saints were not only unethical but illegal AND felonious. Call Goodell and those supporting his decision any name you want but the self-righteous ones are playing in New Orleans and it’s not out of the realm of possibility prosecutorial actions could be coming down the road for those that sanctioned injuries beyond the rules of the game. Thus far I have yet to hear anyone from an opposing team speak out against the ruling and seriously doubt there will be as it’s their livelihood at stake. Good luck protecting Brees from the knee rattling hits he’s bound to sustain after handing the ball off this season. Reap what you sow and quit being a myopic apologist for the pathetic actions of the Saints.

  66. jclii says: Mar 22, 2012 4:57 PM

    oh good, another genius ex-player has an opinion.

  67. deathspiralx says: Mar 22, 2012 4:58 PM

    Shut your piehole and take your punishment like a man. Whiner.

    You enjoyed the crime, now do your time.

  68. mjkelly77 says: Mar 22, 2012 4:59 PM

    mctyboy35 says:Mar 22, 2012 3:41 PM

    Mark my words, Goodell will ruin this game. As crazy as it sounds now, he will singlehandedly wipe NFL football off the map if he continues at this rate. Profootballtalk talk and all of its popularity will be deminished as well. Goodell needs to go. I’m not even a Saints fan, just damn tired of his ways and inconsistencies. Get rid of him and save our game.
    __________________

    What will ruin the game are the idiot players who want to collect bounties for injuring their fellow players. These are the same idiots who will be suing the NFL after they retire because they didn’t know how dangerous the game was.

  69. riverhorsey says: Mar 22, 2012 5:11 PM

    Joe Horn is a poor man’s T.O.

  70. granadafan says: Mar 22, 2012 5:13 PM

    Think about this rationally for a second. Goodell has let the NFL become run by lawyers. Coming down hard on players for head shots is strictly a preventative action for future lawsuits. Past players are now suing the cash cow that is the NFL more and more, so the NFL has to show they are taking strict action or they leave themselves open to a tort lawsuit. Attorneys/ agents are salivating over the potential tort lawsuit currently.

    Likewise, with the bounties, the NFL has to again to strict action to prevent lawsuits from players injured going forward.

  71. dizzysit says: Mar 22, 2012 5:25 PM

    Maybe Payton would’ve gotten a lesser punishment had he not lied. I would’ve paid to see his reaction after the NFL showed him the email showed that he in fact knew.

    Let it go Saints nation, if there ever was a nation.

  72. ninerswilldominatelikebefore says: Mar 22, 2012 5:27 PM

    who cares about joe horndog, overrated receiver!!

  73. shinnbone says: Mar 22, 2012 5:36 PM

    I just got dumber reading what Joe Horn said. Damn…I can never get those 60 seconds back damn…

  74. mx429 says: Mar 22, 2012 5:40 PM

    It’s truly funny to see these players, who have convinced themselves that they actually had real power, find out they’re nothing more than an easily replaceable commodity. Sled dogs don’t determine the course, they do what they’re told, or they don’t get fed… get it?

  75. honkerdawg says: Mar 22, 2012 5:41 PM

    Horn is an idiot. If it was him or his QB getting hit at the time he’d be saying punishment is too light. Goodall did the proper thing and maybe it isn’t harsh enough, bad enough the bounties but lying about them and putting it down on paper these guys are just STUPID. I don’t don’t think Payton will be poor, ESPN will probably hire him as a studio expert

  76. petedutcher says: Mar 22, 2012 5:44 PM

    I have not read all the comments here, but Joe Horn as much as admitted that the Bounty has been in Saints for longer than suspected…which means ownership DID know about it.

    INTERESTING.

  77. hairpie says: Mar 22, 2012 5:46 PM

    Its hysterical that all these players and “fans” that applauded Goddell for his overly excessive penalty on the Pats for Spygate have such a different perspective when its “their” team. lol

  78. mnvikes7897 says: Mar 22, 2012 5:46 PM

    Moron. When the senate hearing is done get ready to be audited. You have no wright to dictate how another mans career will be played out. They should line you all up and knock the sh!t out of you till you crap yourself, cart YOU off and dump you in a trash can cause you ain’t above nothing. Quiet should have been kept of your garbage mouth.

  79. pacificajim says: Mar 22, 2012 5:56 PM

    bobhk says: Mar 22, 2012 4:30 PM

    Horn is a really stupid guy.
    I’m just waiting for when he/his family files a lawsuit against NFL for his brain trauma…

    *************************************************************

    The burden of proof is definitely going to be on the family……they’re going to have to prove he actually has a brain.

  80. moustachedone says: Mar 22, 2012 5:58 PM

    Payton gave a twice convicted felon access to the team, who gave money to injure players. While Goodell isn’t making a big deal about this aspect publicly, I’m sure it’s a big reason the league came down so hard; and particularly on Payton.

  81. condor75 says: Mar 22, 2012 6:04 PM

    So as usual in todays society, the perpetrator is the victim. give me a break, is the issue of punishment the problem or should there be nothing to punish. Typical it is not my fault, i drank too much because the bartender keep serving, i have lung cancer because they sold me cigarettes. STOP IT, MAN UP AND TAKE THE DAMN MEDICINE

  82. demo1984 says: Mar 22, 2012 6:12 PM

    Goodell is doing what needs to be done. In todays NFL player safety has to be job one. This is not the 70’s NFL, LB’s in todays league are 260, 27- and even 280 lbs and run 4.5 40’s. Linemen on both sides of the ball are 325-360lbs and they run sub 5.0 40’s.
    Jack lambert one of the NFLs best ever was 220 lbs, Dick Butkis was 245, Jack Ham was 225, Jim Marshall was 248, Carl Eller was 247, Alan Page was 245, Mike Webster on the the great centers ever was 255lbs.
    Point is the players in the league nowdays are much bigger and faster which results in more violent hits more concussions and injuries. If the Commisioner does not take a stand to help player safety you will see players careers drastically shortened.
    I just slam my head against the wall trying to figure out why none of the players coaches and fans in Saints nation can figure out why these punishments are so harsh.
    Lets put it this way for you brain dead Saints. Remember Tonya Harding ? She paid a guy to injure her competition ( Nacy Kerrigan) to make it easier for her to win. She was found GUILTY of a crime and was banned from her sport for life, which is what I think Payton and Loomis and Williams should get and every player involved should get the one year. How is what Harding did any different than what the Saints did. They paid team members to injure opponents to make it easier for them to win.

  83. cags777 says: Mar 22, 2012 6:13 PM

    I had to re-read Horn’s comments in order to make sense of what he was saying. All I read was a lot of ranting with an inability to argue logic.

  84. Deb says: Mar 22, 2012 6:26 PM

    As a Steelers fan, I love James Harrison and have rarely agreed with anything Goodell has done. But James sounded like a raving lunatic in that interview (a “puppet” and a “dictator”?). For once, Goodell got it right. Payton took money from a convicted felon to bypass the salary cap and run an illegal bounty program aimed at injuring players. Enough with the whining from Saints and former Saints.

  85. themonster49 says: Mar 22, 2012 6:31 PM

    But Joe Horn, who is going to protect the players playing a Game from having a would-be criminal top-of-the-head spear some guy’s spine or try to break their ankle in a pile after the whistle is blown? Someone has to protect people playing a game from people trying to mame (mame means permanent) and maybe worse.

  86. themonster49 says: Mar 22, 2012 6:33 PM

    “Quiet as it’s kept, we all had big hits and we all had money pots for big hits. It wasn’t a bounty, but we all had big hits and we got paid for knocking guys out of the game,” Horn said.

    Didn’t Horn play for the Saints? Here we go again… Bountygate2, it’s double-ply Bounty the quicker picker upper (with a stretcher, that is).

  87. nyjetsfan08 says: Mar 22, 2012 6:41 PM

    The saints weren’t the only ones to do it, probably. Perhaps, there were other teams that the NFL sniffed and they stopped before it got out to the press. But the Saints were too stupid to keep doing it, after they got caught by the NFL. The NFL claimed to not have enough evidence to officially levy the hammer, or so they claim. Really, the NFL is worried about lawsuits from players who claim the NFL did not do enough to protect them. That’s it. That’s why they came down hard. They’re more concerned about the lawsuits than a player bounty, but they have to set an example, and the Saints were too stupid to be the example chosen.

    The NFL is doing this for their own reasons, but the Saints shouldn’t be doing something illegal, anyway.

  88. ceschatz says: Mar 22, 2012 7:13 PM

    Goodell has screwed up alot but he actually got this one right.

  89. jpb12 says: Mar 22, 2012 7:26 PM

    So I guess Joe’s OK with someone putting a ‘hit’ on Goodell.

    All part of the game?

  90. 4thqtrsaint says: Mar 22, 2012 8:06 PM

    4thqtrsaint-
    Interesting to think you have a better grasp of what goes on in the league than Costas or
    anyone else for that matter. The actions taken by the Saints were not only unethical but illegal
    AND felonious. Call Goodell and those supporting his decision any name you want but the
    self-righteous ones are playing in New Orleans and it’s not out of the realm of possibility
    prosecutorial actions could be coming down the road for those that sanctioned injuries beyond the rules of the game. Thus far I have yet to hear anyone from an opposing team speak
    out against the ruling and seriously doubt there will be as it’s their livelihood at stake. Good
    luck protecting Brees from the knee rattling hits he’s bound to sustain after handing the ball
    off this season. Reap what you sow and quit being a myopic apologist for the pathetic actions
    of the Saints.

    First off, jackwagon, you prove my point with your rant. Ooooo, its felonius. LOL.
    A better grasp than Goodell? I’m just going by things I’ve read from players. The Saints actions WERE unethical. I never said they weren’t. I’m saying they are not the only team to do this.

    I didn’t call Goodell supporters names, idiot, as I too support Goodell on this issue. You were too busy tripping over yourself to type the exact self righteous bullmilk I wrote about, before you even read my post all the way through. I AGREE WITH GOODELL.

    What bothers me is everybody pretending they are shocked by this, or being holier-than-thou about it. Again you prove my point by saying, “Good
    luck protecting Brees from the knee rattling hits he’s bound to sustain after handing the ball
    off this season. Reap what you sow…” Sounds like your self-righteousness took a detour there buddy. I know, you’ll respond by saying you’re not hoping that will happen, but its pretty obvious you’ll be rooting for player injury to the Saints’ players this season. Two-faced goody 2 shoes. Come on, sweetie, man up and just tell us that’s what you want instead of hiding behind sanctimonis double speak.

    And I’m a Saints fan, not an apologist. If you’re fake enough to pretend outrage & disgust, why don’t I join you in fakeness and pretend I hate winning a superbowl.

    Or you can just shut up. Either way rocks.

  91. djjasonpaul says: Mar 22, 2012 11:12 PM

    Gotta love how all these NON-Saints fans are quick to thumbs up a post. I bet if it was your team you would be crying just the same. I hope Goodell finds damage to charge every team with this year so you all will know how it feels. Suspending the head coach for a year is overboard. Goodell is BAADELL in reality and should be kicked to the curb. Already has taken away the kick offs and made hitting the QB pretty much illegal. Whats next? Two hand touch? GTFO, and FlorYo you are a idiot to support this all because SHOCKEY SNITCHED!

  92. itsjustmesg says: Mar 23, 2012 1:16 AM

    Wow, so you agree with everything Goodell has done but disagree with anyone who actually speaks about it? The only things you hear about from the players are either 20 years out of the league or current/former Saints. Of course they’re going to defend the team, just as you do despite claiming to “agree with Goodell”. But just know that by following up with “I’m saying they are not the only team to do this.” is EXACTLY the talk of an apologist, clear and center. You can’t have it both ways. No other team in the league has been mentioned as a possible target of a bounty hunt and when there is one, as Costas said, hopefully they too feel the full brunt of the commissioner’s office. Until then, quit talking out of your ass and look at the facts. Like it or not, if you say they are guilty but everyone does it you are an APOLOGIST. Take your cheap Super Bowl and shove it up your ass, we have a more current one than your douche bag team!!!

  93. itsjustmesg says: Mar 23, 2012 1:26 AM

    “I was drunk but the bartender overserved me.”
    “I was speeding but so was everyone else.”
    “I was using the streets as a bathroom but, hey, it’s New Orleans.”
    “I put cash bounties out on opposing players but everyone does it (just trust me on that as there’s no real evidence.”

  94. Angry Orange Man says: Mar 23, 2012 2:37 AM

    Thanks a lot PFT. I had managed to forget Joe Horn had ever existed. Who knows what piece of potentially valuable information was pushed out of my brain to welcome Joe Horn back into my consciousness. I will see you in court.

    Also, Saints fans, your tears give me strength.

  95. christopher525 says: Mar 23, 2012 4:26 AM

    Anyone else remember the pain pill scandal with the Saints a year or two back? Can’t help wondering if the missing pills helped pay some bounties.

  96. christopher525 says: Mar 23, 2012 4:43 AM

    @djjasonpaul, I’ll put the words out there that everyone reading your post is thinking…shut up and get back to your pipe. IF Shockey told, he did the right thing, so he shouldn’t be villified for letting people know about this disgusting program. That being said, Warren Sapp is a loudmouth jackass and always has been. I take his statements with less than a grain of salt. It amazes me how “fans” of the Saints can get so upset over a deserved ounishment. Then again, most people NOT upset about a bounty program likely never set foot on a field of play. It’s one thing to hit hard, quite another to chase money for the act of intentionally injuring someone. When you put money above people in the same organization as you (NFL/NFLPA), you’re beyond worthless. Vilma, the same guy, doung the same thing in college, should be banned for life due to his proven track record. Payton deserves his year, he knew about an illegal program, paying to injure players (proving what was already obvious, they had the dirtiest defense on tge planet), then purposely lied to the man in charge about it, he’s lucky he just got a year. Makes me proud of Steve Smith fighting back when they attacked him in the end zone.

  97. cubear34 says: Mar 23, 2012 7:44 AM

    Lets check that wonderlick test.

  98. philbusman says: Mar 23, 2012 10:14 AM

    The NFL really tried to let the Saints off with a warning; the NFL did all they could to try to avoid punishing the Saints. Don’t you people get it? By their continued disregard for the rules, the Saints FORCED the NFL to punish them. They deserved everything they got.

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