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		<title>By: purplehayseuss</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vikesfan4life:  Sorry, Bud.  I&#039;m delusional.  A guy in a long black coat and really dark glasses gave me this pill, and ever since I took it, I see streams of green letters and numbers everywhere I look.  He looked like Shane Falco; you know, the poor QB that got hammered back in the Sugar Bowl.  Weird.  I was bummed when the Sentinels let him go.

The green streams make is really easy to see where the Saints got away with football &#039;murder&#039; that night.

What the hell kind of fan are you?  Are you so imbued with Viking misery and half a century of disappointment that you&#039;re actually starting to believe that Minny &#039;can&#039;t win&#039;?  Wake UP Man!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vikesfan4life:  Sorry, Bud.  I&#8217;m delusional.  A guy in a long black coat and really dark glasses gave me this pill, and ever since I took it, I see streams of green letters and numbers everywhere I look.  He looked like Shane Falco; you know, the poor QB that got hammered back in the Sugar Bowl.  Weird.  I was bummed when the Sentinels let him go.</p>
<p>The green streams make is really easy to see where the Saints got away with football &#8216;murder&#8217; that night.</p>
<p>What the hell kind of fan are you?  Are you so imbued with Viking misery and half a century of disappointment that you&#8217;re actually starting to believe that Minny &#8216;can&#8217;t win&#8217;?  Wake UP Man!</p>
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		<title>By: monkeyboymotors</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the taints title tis tainted]]></description>
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		<title>By: aussie61</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t believe how some people are saying that &quot;the Saints didn&#039;t cheat,they just did something illegal&quot;....
Huh??? The bounty scheme was not only illegal,it&#039;s immoral and tantamount to cheating!!! Best form of punishment is to make ALL those found guilty to hand back their SB ring...take away the ring and I guaranty nobody ever does this again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe how some people are saying that &#8220;the Saints didn&#8217;t cheat,they just did something illegal&#8221;&#8230;.<br />
Huh??? The bounty scheme was not only illegal,it&#8217;s immoral and tantamount to cheating!!! Best form of punishment is to make ALL those found guilty to hand back their SB ring&#8230;take away the ring and I guaranty nobody ever does this again.</p>
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		<title>By: anthonyfromstatenisland</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve listened to all the overheated rhetoric on this topic - and I&#039;m struck by the inherent ignorance that informs so much of it: Lawrence O&#039;Donnell, for instance, has called for the Saints to be disqualified from their Super Bowl title - and the Lombardi Trophy awarded to the Vikings!  Yet rather obviously, if the Saints were to be disqualified (which I most emphatically do NOT support doing, by the way), the championship would have to go to the Colts since the Colts were the runners-up (having lost to New Orleans in the Super Bowl), not the Vikings.

Another aspect of this cannot go unaddressed: The anti-bounty crusade is still another move by the league that is designed to favor offense over defense; have we yet heard of even ONE incident in which an offensive player was offered a bounty to take out a defensive player - say, via a chop block or leg whip?

How far will the NFL go to tilt the playing field in favor of the offense?  Will the typical over-under line on an NFL game soon be 80?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve listened to all the overheated rhetoric on this topic &#8211; and I&#8217;m struck by the inherent ignorance that informs so much of it: Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell, for instance, has called for the Saints to be disqualified from their Super Bowl title &#8211; and the Lombardi Trophy awarded to the Vikings!  Yet rather obviously, if the Saints were to be disqualified (which I most emphatically do NOT support doing, by the way), the championship would have to go to the Colts since the Colts were the runners-up (having lost to New Orleans in the Super Bowl), not the Vikings.</p>
<p>Another aspect of this cannot go unaddressed: The anti-bounty crusade is still another move by the league that is designed to favor offense over defense; have we yet heard of even ONE incident in which an offensive player was offered a bounty to take out a defensive player &#8211; say, via a chop block or leg whip?</p>
<p>How far will the NFL go to tilt the playing field in favor of the offense?  Will the typical over-under line on an NFL game soon be 80?</p>
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		<title>By: grannyvi4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 06:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kinggw says:Mar 23, 2012 3:35 PM 

Dont you just love revisionist history? Vikings players will have you believe that Saints players were going for Favre’s knees, hitting him late and hitting him after the whistle. The problem is, that didn’t happen.
 
If the hits on Favre were so heinous why didn’t anybody associated with the Vikings organization complain about it until news of the bounties came out? Why werent Vikings players complaining then? They didnt complain, because there was nothing to complain about. Not only is it a punk move, its disingenous for players like Sullivan to act like something was taken away from them. Favre got punished because of a porous line, not because of illegal hits. Its time for the Vikings and their fans to move on. No amount of crying is going to get you a Super Bowl trophy.
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The Vikings did in fact complain immediately after the 2009 NFCCG to the League, not only about calls they thought the officials missed, but also on the bounty on Favre.  In fact, one of the Saints&#039; players was indeed fined $20,000 for an illegal hit on Favre after the fact, even though there was no flag thrown during the game -- a fact for which Periera apologized.  The only reason there was no action taken right away on the bounty was because, when confronted by the NFL, the Saints organization lied through its teeth...and lied...and lied some more.  Only after someone came forward recently with evidence did the NFL reopen its investigation into the bounty system, and we all know what happened with that.

As a Vikings fan, I don&#039;t want your SB trophy.  Enjoy it.  However, I would say that after alll these years, you should not be surprised that Vikings fans are thoroughly enjoying your predicament, brought on only by your organization&#039;s arrogance and stupidity...and a little tip from the Vikings that there was a bounty in place on Favre during that 2009 NFCCG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kinggw says:Mar 23, 2012 3:35 PM </p>
<p>Dont you just love revisionist history? Vikings players will have you believe that Saints players were going for Favre’s knees, hitting him late and hitting him after the whistle. The problem is, that didn’t happen.</p>
<p>If the hits on Favre were so heinous why didn’t anybody associated with the Vikings organization complain about it until news of the bounties came out? Why werent Vikings players complaining then? They didnt complain, because there was nothing to complain about. Not only is it a punk move, its disingenous for players like Sullivan to act like something was taken away from them. Favre got punished because of a porous line, not because of illegal hits. Its time for the Vikings and their fans to move on. No amount of crying is going to get you a Super Bowl trophy.<br />
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The Vikings did in fact complain immediately after the 2009 NFCCG to the League, not only about calls they thought the officials missed, but also on the bounty on Favre.  In fact, one of the Saints&#8217; players was indeed fined $20,000 for an illegal hit on Favre after the fact, even though there was no flag thrown during the game &#8212; a fact for which Periera apologized.  The only reason there was no action taken right away on the bounty was because, when confronted by the NFL, the Saints organization lied through its teeth&#8230;and lied&#8230;and lied some more.  Only after someone came forward recently with evidence did the NFL reopen its investigation into the bounty system, and we all know what happened with that.</p>
<p>As a Vikings fan, I don&#8217;t want your SB trophy.  Enjoy it.  However, I would say that after alll these years, you should not be surprised that Vikings fans are thoroughly enjoying your predicament, brought on only by your organization&#8217;s arrogance and stupidity&#8230;and a little tip from the Vikings that there was a bounty in place on Favre during that 2009 NFCCG.</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 03:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[crabboil says: Mar 23, 2012 3:31 PM

Most of the lightweights on this site feel the championship is tainted, but the overwhelming majority of the people (in New Orleans) that actually cover (the Saints) absolutely shoot down any notion of asterisks or tainted titles.

I fixed it for you.

Now, how do you feel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crabboil says: Mar 23, 2012 3:31 PM</p>
<p>Most of the lightweights on this site feel the championship is tainted, but the overwhelming majority of the people (in New Orleans) that actually cover (the Saints) absolutely shoot down any notion of asterisks or tainted titles.</p>
<p>I fixed it for you.</p>
<p>Now, how do you feel?</p>
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		<title>By: jebdamone</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 02:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the one that he is talking about was the worst.  favre handed the ball off, turned around and one of the saints players just leveled him.  it was so obviously a malicious and illegal hit.  favre was just flabbergasted after that one...no flag]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the one that he is talking about was the worst.  favre handed the ball off, turned around and one of the saints players just leveled him.  it was so obviously a malicious and illegal hit.  favre was just flabbergasted after that one&#8230;no flag</p>
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		<title>By: vikesfan4life</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 01:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a die hard Vikings fan and a season ticket holder I can&#039;t disagree with Sullivan or Kluwe. Those guys deserve to be punished severely. HOWEVER... we turned the ball over 5 times! The bounty on Favre had nothing to do with AP fumbling on the goal line before half. It had nothing to do with the 12 men in the huddle at the end of the game which led to the Favre pick. The Saints were dirty and they got away with it but the Vikings killed themselves. That&#039;s the bottom line. As much as it hurts to admit it that&#039;s the truth and any Viking fan that doesn&#039;t admit that the bounty had nothing to do with those turnovers is obviously dillusional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a die hard Vikings fan and a season ticket holder I can&#8217;t disagree with Sullivan or Kluwe. Those guys deserve to be punished severely. HOWEVER&#8230; we turned the ball over 5 times! The bounty on Favre had nothing to do with AP fumbling on the goal line before half. It had nothing to do with the 12 men in the huddle at the end of the game which led to the Favre pick. The Saints were dirty and they got away with it but the Vikings killed themselves. That&#8217;s the bottom line. As much as it hurts to admit it that&#8217;s the truth and any Viking fan that doesn&#8217;t admit that the bounty had nothing to do with those turnovers is obviously dillusional.</p>
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		<title>By: chasingsafety54</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 01:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And he wouldn&#039;t be considered biased by any means, now would he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he wouldn&#8217;t be considered biased by any means, now would he?</p>
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		<title>By: astrosfan75956</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 23:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ban him Roger, send the players a message this won&#039;t be tolerated.]]></description>
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		<title>By: veetan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bzeller says:Mar 23, 2012 6:44 PM 

I just love how everyone hates on the Viking fans…….makes me even prouder to be one !!!
 GO VIKINGS !!!! They may be one of the only teams in the league with any integrity…..


WHAT? Party boat ring a bell? Moron.



 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bzeller says:Mar 23, 2012 6:44 PM </p>
<p>I just love how everyone hates on the Viking fans…….makes me even prouder to be one !!!<br />
 GO VIKINGS !!!! They may be one of the only teams in the league with any integrity…..</p>
<p>WHAT? Party boat ring a bell? Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: RedRuffAndSore</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The refs in the 2009 NFC CG (Pete Morelli and his crew) did one of the worst officiating jobs I&#039;ve ever seen.  It wasn&#039;t just that they turned a blind eye while the Saints cheap-shotted Favre with obvious intent to injure, it was all the other botched calls or non-calls, such as the phantom pass-interference call on Leber, the non-catch by Meachem, and the 4th down play in overtime where Chad Greenway hit Pierre Thomas in the air causing a fumble that the Saints recovered behind the line of scrimmage.  Sure, the Vikings turned the ball over 5 times, but, they had twice as many yards as the Saints and would have won the game if the refs had only been semi-incompetent or semi-biased.  After that hatchet job, Morelli et al. should have been fired on the spot!

As for those who make excuses for the refs, I say why should we -- all NFL fans, who spend our money, time and energy following our favorite teams passionately -- have to put up with bad officiating?  Most fans can accept losing a game when the other team plays better.  But, nothing irks and frustrates a fan more than having his/her favorite team lose because of bad officiating.

Let’s demand that the NFL improves the officiating by hiring full-time refs, having refs in the booth watching replays to assist the refs on the field, investigating possible bias and corruption involving the refs, conducting detailed performance analysis of the refs’ on-field work and firing any ref who demonstrates incompetence or bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The refs in the 2009 NFC CG (Pete Morelli and his crew) did one of the worst officiating jobs I&#8217;ve ever seen.  It wasn&#8217;t just that they turned a blind eye while the Saints cheap-shotted Favre with obvious intent to injure, it was all the other botched calls or non-calls, such as the phantom pass-interference call on Leber, the non-catch by Meachem, and the 4th down play in overtime where Chad Greenway hit Pierre Thomas in the air causing a fumble that the Saints recovered behind the line of scrimmage.  Sure, the Vikings turned the ball over 5 times, but, they had twice as many yards as the Saints and would have won the game if the refs had only been semi-incompetent or semi-biased.  After that hatchet job, Morelli et al. should have been fired on the spot!</p>
<p>As for those who make excuses for the refs, I say why should we &#8212; all NFL fans, who spend our money, time and energy following our favorite teams passionately &#8212; have to put up with bad officiating?  Most fans can accept losing a game when the other team plays better.  But, nothing irks and frustrates a fan more than having his/her favorite team lose because of bad officiating.</p>
<p>Let’s demand that the NFL improves the officiating by hiring full-time refs, having refs in the booth watching replays to assist the refs on the field, investigating possible bias and corruption involving the refs, conducting detailed performance analysis of the refs’ on-field work and firing any ref who demonstrates incompetence or bias.</p>
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		<title>By: bzeller</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just love how everyone hates on the Viking fans.......makes me even prouder to be one !!! 
GO VIKINGS !!!!   They may be one of the only teams in the league with any integrity.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love how everyone hates on the Viking fans&#8230;&#8230;.makes me even prouder to be one !!!<br />
GO VIKINGS !!!!   They may be one of the only teams in the league with any integrity&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mediasloppy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most glaring facts that makes me shake my head is when Saints fans talk about how great they are. I mean they barely won the game after the Vikings gift of five turn-overs, a bounty system and refs that were as blind as bats. That&#039;s a win to be Proud of! Congratulations. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most glaring facts that makes me shake my head is when Saints fans talk about how great they are. I mean they barely won the game after the Vikings gift of five turn-overs, a bounty system and refs that were as blind as bats. That&#8217;s a win to be Proud of! Congratulations. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ilovefoolsball</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[t2live22 says:
Mar 23, 2012 3:51 PM
&quot;World versus Saints&quot;
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Be careful.
Usually the world loses those fights.]]></description>
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Mar 23, 2012 3:51 PM<br />
&#8220;World versus Saints&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: ilovefoolsball</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[brewdogg says:
Mar 23, 2012 1:36 PM
I’m not going to be one to say what the official league punishment should be…..all i’m going to say is that I would hate to be Drew Brees next season.

The players will take this into their own hands if the league doesn’t. Suspending a few players may make future players think twice before trying this again, and if that makes everyone put it behind them, then that should be the way to go.
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I don&#039;t think Brees has to worry about a thing. The man has the quickest release in the league defenders barely get to breathe on him before the ball is gone, and if you don&#039;t think that the officials are going to be looking for retaliation payback then you&#039;re a fool, and if you think that it&#039;s smart for any players to put a &quot;bounty&quot; on Brees after all this then you&#039;re just plain stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brewdogg says:<br />
Mar 23, 2012 1:36 PM<br />
I’m not going to be one to say what the official league punishment should be…..all i’m going to say is that I would hate to be Drew Brees next season.</p>
<p>The players will take this into their own hands if the league doesn’t. Suspending a few players may make future players think twice before trying this again, and if that makes everyone put it behind them, then that should be the way to go.<br />
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I don&#8217;t think Brees has to worry about a thing. The man has the quickest release in the league defenders barely get to breathe on him before the ball is gone, and if you don&#8217;t think that the officials are going to be looking for retaliation payback then you&#8217;re a fool, and if you think that it&#8217;s smart for any players to put a &#8220;bounty&#8221; on Brees after all this then you&#8217;re just plain stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[knock it off with the &quot;*&quot; when discussing the saint&#039;s superbowl win, The bounty system is messed up, but does that bounty system guarantee 5 turnovers or the vikings hiring childress instead of McCarthy or Sean Payton?
Does it guarantee That Jared Allen and the Star Cap gang disappear when faced against a good Offensive line?

Does it guarantee that Marshawn Lynch is immune to tackles or that the 49ers have a beast of a defense or a machine at tight end?

Does it guarantee an offense that&#039;s produced 2 5,000 yard passing seasons?

Grow up, we&#039;re calling you whiners cause you expect everything to be handed to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knock it off with the &#8220;*&#8221; when discussing the saint&#8217;s superbowl win, The bounty system is messed up, but does that bounty system guarantee 5 turnovers or the vikings hiring childress instead of McCarthy or Sean Payton?<br />
Does it guarantee That Jared Allen and the Star Cap gang disappear when faced against a good Offensive line?</p>
<p>Does it guarantee that Marshawn Lynch is immune to tackles or that the 49ers have a beast of a defense or a machine at tight end?</p>
<p>Does it guarantee an offense that&#8217;s produced 2 5,000 yard passing seasons?</p>
<p>Grow up, we&#8217;re calling you whiners cause you expect everything to be handed to you.</p>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Steelers won for superbowls in the 70&#039;s for being &quot;dirty&quot;.  Do you think anyone remembers that?  Hell yes they do, and they get respect for that perception!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Steelers won for superbowls in the 70&#8242;s for being &#8220;dirty&#8221;.  Do you think anyone remembers that?  Hell yes they do, and they get respect for that perception!</p>
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		<title>By: kimtrouard</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[somekat says: Mar 23, 2012 3:46 PM

I just want to point out how funny it is to see all these “world champs!!!” posts from Saints fans. No, you are not. The Giants are world champs. Before they won it, the Packers were the world champs.

The Saints are the champs of nothing, no more than the Phillies are the world champs, or the Blackhawks, or the Celtics, or any other team that won years ago.

You are the champs the same way the Rams are. Deep in the past.
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Yep. The Saints, Phillies, Celtics, etc are all former world champs. Vikes have jack!!! Keep crying vikings fans. Maybe you will win the championship of crybabies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>somekat says: Mar 23, 2012 3:46 PM</p>
<p>I just want to point out how funny it is to see all these “world champs!!!” posts from Saints fans. No, you are not. The Giants are world champs. Before they won it, the Packers were the world champs.</p>
<p>The Saints are the champs of nothing, no more than the Phillies are the world champs, or the Blackhawks, or the Celtics, or any other team that won years ago.</p>
<p>You are the champs the same way the Rams are. Deep in the past.<br />
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Yep. The Saints, Phillies, Celtics, etc are all former world champs. Vikes have jack!!! Keep crying vikings fans. Maybe you will win the championship of crybabies.</p>
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		<title>By: chrism516</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope the saints and their fans enjoy the asterisk beside their SB win, and knowing the only thing people will remember about them is how dirty they were. You are once again a laughing stock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the saints and their fans enjoy the asterisk beside their SB win, and knowing the only thing people will remember about them is how dirty they were. You are once again a laughing stock.</p>
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		<title>By: ibleedpurpleandgold</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not going to cry about the Vikes getting knocked out of the playoffs - it happened. 

Let&#039;s look at this issue solely on the face of it. Someone offered another person money to injure a targeted individual.

It&#039;s illegal on the face; both from the person offering the payment, and the person aiming to injure someone else. Just because it has &quot;gone on forever&quot; in some form doesn&#039;t make it acceptable in any capacity.

Let the Saints keep their illgotten trophy; but take action against the people that were involved, throw them out of the league and behind bars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to cry about the Vikes getting knocked out of the playoffs &#8211; it happened. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at this issue solely on the face of it. Someone offered another person money to injure a targeted individual.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s illegal on the face; both from the person offering the payment, and the person aiming to injure someone else. Just because it has &#8220;gone on forever&#8221; in some form doesn&#8217;t make it acceptable in any capacity.</p>
<p>Let the Saints keep their illgotten trophy; but take action against the people that were involved, throw them out of the league and behind bars.</p>
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		<title>By: thankheavenfornumberseven</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[calbsure says:Mar 23, 2012 3:11 PM 

As a Viking fan, this covers the known. Yes, the Saints did beat us due to turnovers and coach Clueless. My complaint on this, isn’t the Saints. They won the game, it’s in the books, nothing can be done about it, history. Yes, the non-calls by that officiating group(if you want to call it that) was downright atrocious. My complaint is against Mr. Sullivan and the rest of the Viking group that was on that field that day that was paid to protect Favre. Why did you being witness to these flagrant cheap shots, not give out on the field justice to those who committed these acts? You saw first hand how the game was being called. Why did you not respond immediately in kind to those who delivered the blows that you now say were done and makes you sick to your stomach? The allowance of these cheap shots during the game without retribution is what sickened me.
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Not sure it makes sense to do what makes you sick to your stomach. They cheated so we should cheat too? Is that what you teach your kids?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>calbsure says:Mar 23, 2012 3:11 PM </p>
<p>As a Viking fan, this covers the known. Yes, the Saints did beat us due to turnovers and coach Clueless. My complaint on this, isn’t the Saints. They won the game, it’s in the books, nothing can be done about it, history. Yes, the non-calls by that officiating group(if you want to call it that) was downright atrocious. My complaint is against Mr. Sullivan and the rest of the Viking group that was on that field that day that was paid to protect Favre. Why did you being witness to these flagrant cheap shots, not give out on the field justice to those who committed these acts? You saw first hand how the game was being called. Why did you not respond immediately in kind to those who delivered the blows that you now say were done and makes you sick to your stomach? The allowance of these cheap shots during the game without retribution is what sickened me.<br />
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<p>Not sure it makes sense to do what makes you sick to your stomach. They cheated so we should cheat too? Is that what you teach your kids?</p>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Funny thing that when you can’t put your weight on a leg you underthrow or throw with a lot of inaccuracy. How many of those INTs came because of illegal hits that caused significant injury to Farve ? Probably at least 1 or 2 of them. That’s a game changer right there.&quot;


Funny, i once saw McNabb finish and win a game with a broken ankle.  But he also wasn&#039;t 41 years old.  Moral of the story, don&#039;t bring a guy out of retirement and think he can still play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Funny thing that when you can’t put your weight on a leg you underthrow or throw with a lot of inaccuracy. How many of those INTs came because of illegal hits that caused significant injury to Farve ? Probably at least 1 or 2 of them. That’s a game changer right there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny, i once saw McNabb finish and win a game with a broken ankle.  But he also wasn&#8217;t 41 years old.  Moral of the story, don&#8217;t bring a guy out of retirement and think he can still play.</p>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure there was a bounty on Bo Jackson&#039;s last game.]]></description>
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		<title>By: jr21016</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, the Viking were upset about the illegal hits in the NFC Championship game immediately after the game.  The NFL admitted they should have been penalized and McCray was fined $20,000.  That&#039;s not revisionist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the Viking were upset about the illegal hits in the NFC Championship game immediately after the game.  The NFL admitted they should have been penalized and McCray was fined $20,000.  That&#8217;s not revisionist.</p>
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		<title>By: granadafan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sullivan he can’t go back and watch the game, but that he recalls Brett being hit in the mouth after handing the ball off.  “A lot of the hits on Brett were illegal,” Sullivan said.  “So what are you supposed to do to prevent those?  That’s not our job, that’s the officiating crew’s job.”&quot;
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Uh, Sullivan, yeah it is your job to prevent those hits by actually BLOCKING for your QB because you&#039;re an Offensive LINEMAN. 

That said, I agree with him about the outrage over bountygate.  Why should the punter&#039;s comments be dismissed just because he&#039;s a punter? He&#039;s on the field and in the lockerroom with these guys.  Why should a center&#039;s comments lend more credence (other than the fact that he blocked like crap for Favre)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sullivan he can’t go back and watch the game, but that he recalls Brett being hit in the mouth after handing the ball off.  “A lot of the hits on Brett were illegal,” Sullivan said.  “So what are you supposed to do to prevent those?  That’s not our job, that’s the officiating crew’s job.”&#8221;<br />
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<p>Uh, Sullivan, yeah it is your job to prevent those hits by actually BLOCKING for your QB because you&#8217;re an Offensive LINEMAN. </p>
<p>That said, I agree with him about the outrage over bountygate.  Why should the punter&#8217;s comments be dismissed just because he&#8217;s a punter? He&#8217;s on the field and in the lockerroom with these guys.  Why should a center&#8217;s comments lend more credence (other than the fact that he blocked like crap for Favre)?</p>
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		<title>By: cwmorga</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Saints hit the Vikes so hard they&#039;re crying about it 2 years later.  Hilarious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Saints hit the Vikes so hard they&#8217;re crying about it 2 years later.  Hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: teedraper</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the bounty program! Wish more teams did it. 

Roger Grandstand &amp; most of you puzzies he&#039;s trying to keep entertained are turning the NFL into a glorified 7 on 7 league.

I&#039;m not even a Saints fan but why are so many men acting like sissies! The pussification of America continues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the bounty program! Wish more teams did it. </p>
<p>Roger Grandstand &amp; most of you puzzies he&#8217;s trying to keep entertained are turning the NFL into a glorified 7 on 7 league.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even a Saints fan but why are so many men acting like sissies! The pussification of America continues.</p>
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		<title>By: govtminion</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fsckedagain says: Mar 23, 2012 1:36 PM

I don’t care if the Vikings would have won or not, the Saint’s are a bunch of useless pu$$ies in my mind forever now.

Can’t play fair and win, so let’s cheat. Too bad that lil wind storm didn’t blow your ugly dome down…
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That &#039;lil wind storm&#039; killed a whole lot of people. Get pissed at the Saints and what they did all you want, but bringing Katrina into this is pretty sleazy in and of itself.]]></description>
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<p>I don’t care if the Vikings would have won or not, the Saint’s are a bunch of useless pu$$ies in my mind forever now.</p>
<p>Can’t play fair and win, so let’s cheat. Too bad that lil wind storm didn’t blow your ugly dome down…<br />
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<p>That &#8216;lil wind storm&#8217; killed a whole lot of people. Get pissed at the Saints and what they did all you want, but bringing Katrina into this is pretty sleazy in and of itself.</p>
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