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Report: Williams put $15,000 bounty on Brad Johnson in 2006

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Everyone’s attention has been focused this week on the Saints after head coach Sean Payton and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams were banished for the team’s bounty program. But the accusations that Williams doled out bounties aren’t limited to his time in New Orleans, and a new report offers some new details about the bounties that he allegedly oversaw during his time in Washington.

Citing multiple anonymous players, David Elfin writes at the Washington, D.C., CBS affiliate that when the Redskins opened the 2006 season against the Vikings, Williams (who was then the team’s defensive coordinator) made a specific point of telling his players to go after Brad Johnson, the Vikings quarterback who had previously played for the Redskins.

“Gregg came in and dropped $15,000 on the [table] and said, ‘Brad Johnson doesn’t finish this game,’” one player said.

Greg Blache, who was a defensive line coach under Williams at the time and later succeeded Williams as the team’s defensive coordinator, has said that he disliked and discontinued the bounty program. But Elfin quotes that same unnamed player as saying that in reality, Blache was offering players money to compensate them for any fines they got for illegal hits.

“Greg Blache said, ‘If you get fined, it will be taken care of,’” the player said.

Another unnamed player offered similar memories about Williams targeting Johnson before that Week One game in 2006.

“I can’t say for sure it was $15,000, but I definitely remember that happening before that Minnesota game,” the second player said. “And I can’t say for sure that those were G-Dub’s exact words about Brad Johnson, but that was certainly the message. I had never heard anything like that before from a coach, but I wasn’t shocked because that was G-Dub’s character, so in your face. His language was always X-rated and our meetings were usually pretty nuts.”

As it turned out, Johnson was not knocked out of the game, and he led the Vikings to a win over the Redskins. So Williams didn’t get what he wanted, and no players got that $15,000.

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194 Responses to “Report: Williams put $15,000 bounty on Brad Johnson in 2006”
  1. canadianvikingfaniii says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    This guy is beyond disgusting. Someone should take legal action against this circus clown of a human being.

  2. koufaxmitzvah says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Not looking good, G-Dub. It might be time to start thinking about a post-career career.

  3. jbpanthers says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    This guy is just sick.

  4. contra74 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    What is it about the Vikings that makes certain folks put hits out on them? All the way back to 2006? Really?

  5. cup0pizza says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Brad Johnson? Really?

  6. mikgaes says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Williams is going to be banned for life.

  7. TaiwanMike says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    This story just keeps getting better and better, doesn’t it?

  8. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Gregg Williams hates the Vikings.

  9. fin72 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    “Gregg came in and dropped $15,000 on the [table] and said, ‘Brad Johnson doesn’t finish this game,’” one player said.
    ____________________________

    Is it me, or does Gregg Williams behave just like the sensei from the Cobra Kai?

  10. andymannfl says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Enjoy retirement Mr. Williams.

  11. 7ransponder says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Wow, Gregg Williams must have grown up a Packer fan, because he seems to have a pretty unhealthy hatred of the Vikings.

    Where are the investigations on the officials that let these things continue in the games that these programs were obviously in effect?

  12. thermalito says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Saints are tainted champions with a big fat asterisk next to their NFC Championship game “victory.” This kind of cheating can’t be tolerated.

  13. kingbeason52 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    i bet Goddell just cringes at these reports that continue to come out after he already declared a punishment..i hope this bounty thing goes away soon..

  14. purplecrowe says: Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM

    “G-Dub” really hates the Vikes…

  15. jumbossportsblog says: Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM

    Reblogged this on jumbossportsblog and commented:
    Brad Johnson – Really? Must have been a million put on Peyton’s head for thr Super Bowl

  16. kozmo50 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM

    GW should be banned for LIFE! Payton……2 years! All players involved……heavily fined and 8 game suspension……….the league needs to send a message.

  17. lesticles1983 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM

    Why isn’t Jeff Fisher reprimanded for his knowledge of bounties when G. Williams was his DC?

  18. sfsaintsfan says: Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM

    This has been going on for years with multiple teams involved. The NFL has not asked a SINGLE team about their knowledge of past “pay for performance” or “bounty” programs.

    They have not asked, because:

    A) They already know the answer and it is not good.

    B) They don’t want to be lied to, and be forced to hand out punnishmnet to one of their “favorite” teams.

  19. fitzmagic1212 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:59 PM

    pure scum.

  20. seals1 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:59 PM

    What a pile of garbage. You are no Reggie Dunlop Greg.

  21. bikeman99 says: Mar 23, 2012 1:59 PM

    That’s just despicable, sounds like something a Mafia Don would do. He should be banned for life.

  22. dallascowboysrpunks says: Mar 23, 2012 1:59 PM

    now more people r starting to cry! O Roger Goodell is already trying to ban football in america! stop trying to help him out

  23. dakingsocrownme says: Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    So if he doesn’t finish the game because of a legal hit there is something wrong with this?

    The object of football is to inflict pain. Your intent is never to injure. Its to inflict pain.

    It simply means that if i get a chance to sniff the QB im going to make sure that its a hit he remembers. Shrugs its legal. So why can’t i hit him as hard as i please?

    Ronnie Lott

    Loyal fan of the New Orleans Saints

    Not so much a fan of NFL football@the moment

    Please remove yourselves from the Tip of the New Orleans Saints & Gregg Williams Fleur De Lis

    Thanks :D

  24. mvp43 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    Okay………so Brad Johnson is worth 15 grand and Brett Favre is worth 10 grand. What would Rex Grossman be worth?……..maybe a happy meal ?

  25. greatminnesotasportsmind says: Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    Man was Greg Williams that upset Brad Childress got the Vikings head coaching over him?

    Was the economy that much better in 2006 that Johnson was worth 15,000 on a Monday night game compared to 10,000 for Brett Favre in the NFC title game?

  26. frostbelt says: Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    This guy should never be allowed in the NFL again

    Ridiculous to even go after another player whom has a family

  27. vikingdoode says: Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    Banned For Life!

  28. porkchopexpress1969 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    And hits keeps coming…..

  29. steelernationsparksjealousy says: Mar 23, 2012 2:01 PM

    This is just scratching the surface

  30. PriorKnowledge says: Mar 23, 2012 2:01 PM

    Wow, what a d-bag. Williams should never be allowed back into the NFL again.

  31. edenprairieballer says: Mar 23, 2012 2:01 PM

    As a Vikings fan this is just plain ridiculous. You put a bounty on Brad freaking Johnson? Possibly the nicest and most humble player out there? I agree with Kluwe and Sullivan, ban Williams for life and Vilma, Fujita, McCray for a minimum of a year. I hope Saints fans realize their Super Bowl is as tainted as Barry Bonds’ home run record.

  32. mavajo says: Mar 23, 2012 2:01 PM

    Dude was out of control. He’s gotta be gone for life.

  33. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM

    As punishment, this years #2 pick goes to the Miami Dolphins. (I can dream, right?)

  34. mflaw10 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM

    I don’t remember Jeremy Shockey playing for the Redskins.

  35. nolarules says: Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM

    move along….nothing to see here….this is a big market team with a rich and powerful owner and therefore untouchable

  36. txbearmeat says: Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM

    There’s no way this guy ever coaches again. All I can say: Wow. Just. Wow.

  37. jmagnet28 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM

    Jesus, this guy Williams is a nut job.

  38. tjacks7 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:03 PM

    Lifetime ban. He’s only sorry because he was caught. He was never sorry when he was offering 15k to injure someone.

  39. jbl429 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:03 PM

    Yep, lifetime ban sounds about right for Gregg Williams.

  40. coolzog says: Mar 23, 2012 2:03 PM

    I understand Brett Favre in ’09 (he was carving up the Saints and NFL defenses), but why would you be worried about Brad Johnson finishing the game or not…

  41. prideisbears says: Mar 23, 2012 2:04 PM

    Brad Johnson? Really? Williams doesnt need to come back to the nfl if he was going after mediocre QB’s

  42. krose91 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:04 PM

    Put Williams on a football field and give someone 15000 $ for a broken leg and 30000 $ for a broken neck.

  43. nineroutsider says: Mar 23, 2012 2:04 PM

    In your best Training Day homie gangster voice: “G-Dub’a a low-down, ruthless vato!”

  44. Steeley McBeam says: Mar 23, 2012 2:05 PM

    Im sure every person who played/coached with him has a very similar story…

  45. fastslappy says: Mar 23, 2012 2:05 PM

    His days as a NFL “anything” are Over !
    they the NFL will use Williams as a snitch to rat out everyone who had dealings with bounties THEN the NFL will kick his sorry butt to the curb teeth 1st …………..

  46. humbleminded85 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:05 PM

    He should’ve deducted 15,000 from someone IF they took him out, not to take him out.

  47. alphaq2 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:05 PM

    He didn’t even need to offer a bounty. If I remember correctly, that was the game where Brad wore his old Redskins Jersey to the stadium. The Redskins players were pissed anyway.

  48. 49erstim says: Mar 23, 2012 2:05 PM

    15,000 dollars?…. American?!… For Brad Johnson? Now this shows that NONE of us is safe.

  49. jackers252 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:06 PM

    But the league and their investigators didn’t find anything about a bounty program in Washington. Just like Gibbs didn’t remember handing crisp $100 bills to players who knocked down the opposing QB’s.

    The NFL reeks of hypocrisy here. They aren’t concerned about player safety, only covering their asses. If they were concerned they would have found something in Washington, Baltimore, Tennessee, and most recently NY. You know, the NFCC game where Giants were trying to knock Kyle Williams out because he has a HISTORY of concussions. Yeah, the league really cares, that is why they did NOTHING about that or any of the other bounty programs.

    They took the easy way out and used New Orleans as an example. And the only reason they did that is because New Orleans tried to cover it up. If New Orleans would have shut it down then it wouldn’t’ have even been a story, just like all the other bounty programs in the league.

    Hypocrites, all of them.

  50. dakingsocrownme says: Mar 23, 2012 2:06 PM

    Think of the Reggie Bush hit which was called a Welcome to the NFL moment.

    That was Littos Shepphards chance to put an extremely hard hit on Reggie Bush, and he did.

    We weren’t over here crying saying…omg they were trying to hurt our players. No he wasn’t trying to hurt him…he was trying to hit his behind hard and he did

    NFL is full of Hypocrisy..and so is this site

    You guys posted about that Litto Shepphard hit for weeks..and it was a legal hit. Wonder if he got payed for it??

  51. sonofsamadams says: Mar 23, 2012 2:06 PM

    I heard a Saints player put $10,000 down for someone to put Willie Roaf’s wife on her back and Joe Horn won.

  52. clayton268921 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    Why wont the players who say this put their name on it? It’s already over with and saying these things alone makes you a snitch, now your a snitch and a coward. Not saying I condone the bounty program but these “anonymous” reports are bull

  53. jackntorres says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    How’s about a story on a bounty committed by the Vikings? EVERY team has done it.

  54. dublindemonszfl says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    Every time a new bounty issue comes up as bounty it’s Williams paying to hurt Vikings.

    Williams is a piece of crap and really hope he crosses the street infront of my car. No bounty needed, just a gas pedal.

    Brad Johnson?? He wasn’t even that good a player, just consistent. He liked to win by 1 point.

    I don’t even have a problem with the new packer story where they gave bonus to the D-line if the held AP under a 100yds. They weren’t paying them to hurt him. AND I HATE THE PACKERS!

  55. kd75 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    $15k for Brad Johnson? Brad Johnson was a hump.

    Overpriced, no?

    He deserves a lifetime ban for sheer stupidity.

  56. iluvbears says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    What a classless POS Williams is.

  57. americankris says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    Well I guess we wont be seeing Greg Williams on the sidelines anytime soon.

  58. crazzyfordaraidazz says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    I didn’t realize brad johnson was a threat? Greg Williams deserves to have bounty put on him

  59. seahawksfan25 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    He was worth that much? Wow

  60. savocabol1 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    We get it, he used a bounty program. Kind of beating a dead horse, huh?

  61. rippedoffhead says: Mar 23, 2012 2:07 PM

    Gonna pull a “Sapp” and call out Lavarr Arrington as one of those unnamed players, using words like “G-Dub’s”…

  62. jackntorres says: Mar 23, 2012 2:08 PM

    “Greg Blache said, ‘If you get fined, it will be taken care of,’” the player said.
    —-

    The real reason these bounties are paid to players who make millions.

  63. itspartofthegame says: Mar 23, 2012 2:08 PM

    …and so it begins.

    Will there still be a league when all of the dots are connected and they conclude that every team in the NFL is doing this to some degree?

    Fine everyone, then wrap all the players in bubble-wrap before they go back onto the field. Kill the league and walk away with your bonuses, Roger.

  64. effedinLA says: Mar 23, 2012 2:08 PM

    How much trouble would I be in if I paid a coworker to beat up someone from a competing company? Luckily the NFL doesn’t have to follow the law of the land.

  65. LoCoSu@%s says: Mar 23, 2012 2:08 PM

    Any bets on what point will the IRS will take notice of this?
    On second thoughts – no bets!!

  66. bullcharger says: Mar 23, 2012 2:08 PM

    I don’t think we need to implicate every team and every coach now. To some degree, bounties have been out there for the entire history of the game and were used extensively by some coaches if you believe the rumors.

    The league has now punished the team that was the first to get caught and everyone will stop their programs if they were doing it.

    There’s no need to start interviewing former players and trying to find out everything that happened. I suspect it was rampant, so all that will be found is that others were guilty. They weren’t guilty of being warned to stop, contiuing anyway and covering it up with lies which is why the Saints were punished so severely. I think this is pretty much over.

  67. geo1113 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:09 PM

    From Gregg William’s statement: “…I apologize to the players of the NFL for my involvement as it is not a true reflection of my values as a father or coach…”

    Actually Gregg, it is. You don’t wake up one day when you are 48 years old and say…geez, I think I will put up $15,000 and give it to the player who knocks the opposing QB out of the game. All I can hope is that you did hide your true nature from your children. Oops…too late for that!

  68. mrplow3 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:09 PM

    -Walks in PFT forum throws down 15K in internet points-

    Greg Williams doesn’t finish this thread with a shred of manhood intact!

  69. boltfansmith says: Mar 23, 2012 2:10 PM

    He should be banned for LIFE! What a scum bag!

  70. thehouseofho says: Mar 23, 2012 2:10 PM

    If that’s true, that is absolutely deplorable and Williams should be banned for life. It’s one thing to have a pot for most sacks, first sack, whatever, but to have a pot for making sure a player is taken out is low. It’s the equivalent of hiring a goon to “teach someone a lesson.”

  71. citizenstrange says: Mar 23, 2012 2:11 PM

    The Ravens are well known for their bounty program.

    Has Goodell or anyone from the NFL even talked to them?

    The Ravens are legendary for their bounties and make Gregg Williams look like an amateur. Seriously.

  72. genericuser8888 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:11 PM

    But, but, the league already completed it’s investigation and did not find anything worth pursuing in Washington. (Or in Green Bay, or Baltimore, or other places were players have outright admitted to bounty programs.)

    The Saints cover-up is far worse, but giving them such an extreme punishment while not punishing past bounty programs at all, even if they were “stopped” in a timely manner, does give the air of unfairness.

    It seems like every few days PFT posts a story from where a player from a non-Saints team is talking about past bounty programs they’ve seen. It’s strange the Goodell can’t find enough evidence to punish any of those offenses, or was aware of them but let the teams off with the simple promise to “stop”.

    The Saints violations are obviously worse, but the league set the precedent for the Saints to do this by allowing an environment to form where bounty programs were common and went unpunished, even after being discovered. The Saints did not expect to be punished because, well, the NFL (under Goodell no less), apparently has a long history of tolerating bounty programs and giving out zero punishment even when they were discovered.

  73. pdxpanther says: Mar 23, 2012 2:11 PM

    Warren Sapp is on the hunt for the “snitches.”

  74. cannonballdookie says: Mar 23, 2012 2:11 PM

    Do you even need to put a bounty on Brad Johnson? He was so old, it’s a good bet that he’d hurt himself in pregame workouts.

  75. mataug says: Mar 23, 2012 2:11 PM

    Brad Johnson, let me tell you – somebody’s taking the p*ss with journos now :)

    jokes aside, I have a feeling that the Redskins are going to be fined and RGIII is gonna end up in Cleveland

  76. Patskrieg dot com says: Mar 23, 2012 2:12 PM

    Oh come on, Gregg Williams is the Godfather now?

    This is all sounding a little dramatic.

  77. bdoubleoey says: Mar 23, 2012 2:12 PM

    Shows how much everyone in the NFL hates the Vikings. Most of the bountys have been against Viking players. Dont get the hate.

  78. catfish252 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:12 PM

    This man should never step foot into another NFL facility in any capacity.

  79. geo1113 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:13 PM

    @nineroutsider

    Best laugh of the day.

  80. marcinhouston says: Mar 23, 2012 2:14 PM

    Gregg Williams is safe. Roger Gooddell wants bounties to be seen as an isolated problem to New Orleans so he will let Gregg back in the league if Gregg agrees not to disclose anything about past bounty programs that would make the problem seem systematic and embaress Gooddell. Jeff Fischer in turn will let Williams return to coaching in return for not disclosing that Fischer operated bounty programs both as Buddy Ryan’s coordinator and as head coach with Gregg Williams as coordinator.

  81. theytukrjobs says: Mar 23, 2012 2:14 PM

    As a Vikings fan I can kind of understand going after Favre. He is a stud player and everyone hates him.

    But Brad Johnson? Seriously wtf. Williams obviously doesn’t like the Vikings.

    By the way, let’s not forget that this is straight up cheating. The CBA creates a fair and level playing field regarding how you can give incentives to players. When some teams break those rules it gives them advantage over most of the league.

    And when guys are willing to go to these lengths, lord knows what else they were doing. Here is some HGH, take it and we’ll take care of you. NFL needs to clean some serious house.

  82. mwcarolina says: Mar 23, 2012 2:14 PM

    As punishment, this years #2 pick goes to the Miami Dolphins. (I can dream, right?)
    ——————————————————
    yeah it aint happening. Washington still will get the 2nd pick and get a QB.

    As for Williams, what an idoit. he will be lucky to return to the nfl

  83. broncobeta says: Mar 23, 2012 2:15 PM

    I don’t get this.

    Having Brad Johnson in the game gives your defense the best chance to win the game…

  84. fin72 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:15 PM

    Here’s rare video of Gregg Williams at halftime speaking to the unnamed player…

  85. mwcarolina says: Mar 23, 2012 2:16 PM

    jokes aside, I have a feeling that the Redskins are going to be fined and RGIII is gonna end up in Cleveland
    ——————————————————
    more dreaming, i cant see this. they may be fined later on in the investigation, but it’s been some years. i dont see Washington losing RG3 or Luck over this.

  86. bozorocks says: Mar 23, 2012 2:17 PM

    I just sent an e-mail to Sean Payton to put me down for 5000.00 on Pat Robertson.

  87. mikemcdorman says: Mar 23, 2012 2:18 PM

    I’m so sick of all the armchair moralists.

  88. nflfollower says: Mar 23, 2012 2:18 PM

    He put a bounty on a grandfather!! For crying out loud. Ridiculous.

  89. vtopa says: Mar 23, 2012 2:18 PM

    Now it all starts to unravel. Redskins fans where are you? Green Bay Fans? Ravens fans? Thought you would just trash the Saints and not have to look at yourselves in the mirror???

    Cue the whining….

  90. geemoney713 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:21 PM

    Skins fans loved Brad Johnson and were NOT happy when we let him leave. He’s one of the last players I would’ve ever said the Redskins should try to hurt, though obviously they shouldn’t be trying to make sure ANY player doesn’t finish the game.

  91. thehouseofho says: Mar 23, 2012 2:21 PM

    jackers252 says:
    Mar 23, 2012 2:06 PM
    But the league and their investigators didn’t find anything about a bounty program in Washington. Just like Gibbs didn’t remember handing crisp $100 bills to players who knocked down the opposing QB’s.

    The NFL reeks of hypocrisy here. They aren’t concerned about player safety, only covering their asses. If they were concerned they would have found something in Washington, Baltimore, Tennessee, and most recently NY. You know, the NFCC game where Giants were trying to knock Kyle Williams out because he has a HISTORY of concussions. Yeah, the league really cares, that is why they did NOTHING about that or any of the other bounty programs.

    They took the easy way out and used New Orleans as an example. And the only reason they did that is because New Orleans tried to cover it up. If New Orleans would have shut it down then it wouldn’t’ have even been a story, just like all the other bounty programs in the league.

    Hypocrites, all of them.
    ———–
    If you had listened to Gooddell, he fully admitted the reason the penalties were stiff was because the Saints lied about it multiple times over. Also, the NFL investigation was focused on the Saints because someone had shown them proof they Saints had this bounty going on even after the NFL told the owner of the team told them to stop these practices.

  92. thatlunchbox says: Mar 23, 2012 2:22 PM

    Wow that’s gangster Gregg… as a Redskins fan, this story upsets me for a couple reasons. 1) We might lose draft picks. 2) Players are snitching.

  93. unlost1 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:23 PM

    9TD’s & 15 INTS that year. . . how threatening.

  94. btwicey says: Mar 23, 2012 2:24 PM

    You will always get found out. Then it becomes a snowball effect , look out.

  95. spammerhead says: Mar 23, 2012 2:24 PM

    I hope that the media will begin to make a bigger deal about the other teams where player have admitted to this behavior. What the Saints did is wrong and they should be punished, but all Saints fans and many other NFL fans are disgusted and irate at the disproportionate treatment of only punishing the Saints for this. I realize this is the biggest fear of the NFL because of potential liability issues and they wish it woul just go away, but is it fair to wreck one team and bury your head in the sand concerning other teams that are just as guilty?

    Only if the media will start to focus on other examples will the NFL be forced to look at other teams and dispense some form of penalty on all guilty parties. Let’s be honest. The behavior is despicable and any team where it’s happened should be penalized as well.

    Saints fans have a right to be upset because they are being made a sacrificial lamb while others get off scot-free. Any teams fan base would be mad about that. However, Saints players, coaches, and front office should be accountable for their part in a larger league problem. This isn’t just a Saints issue, even though God-dell wants you to think that so the NFL doesn’t get sued.

  96. hwatt says: Mar 23, 2012 2:24 PM

    well Brad Johnson is a super bowl winning qb (Bucs), so people in the league always give respect for that, not matter how long ago he won it.

  97. Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:26 PM

    sfsaintsfan says:
    Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM
    This has been going on for years with multiple teams involved. The NFL has not asked a SINGLE team about their knowledge of past “pay for performance” or “bounty” programs.

    They have not asked, because:

    A) They already know the answer and it is not good.

    B) They don’t want to be lied to, and be forced to hand out punnishmnet to one of their “favorite” teams.

    ———–

    Although you’re in denial about it, the Saints ARE one of the NFL’s “favorite” teams — along with NE, PIT, PHI and DAL — you dimwit.

  98. efriedo says: Mar 23, 2012 2:26 PM

    sfsaintsfan says: Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM

    “This has been going on for years with multiple teams involved. The NFL has not asked a SINGLE team about their knowledge of past “pay for performance” or “bounty” programs.

    They have not asked, because:

    A) They already know the answer and it is not good.

    B) They don’t want to be lied to, and be forced to hand out punishment to one of their “favorite” teams.”

    ************************

    Really? They didn’t ask a single team? I guess you just know the inter-workings of the NFL investigation.

    Saints fans all say the same thing… “every other team does it…”

    Pats fans said the same thing about spygate.

    Newsflash for ya: The Saints were investigated, busted, lied about it and now are paying the price.

    The saints are one of the NFL’s favorite teams. There’s no bias here.

    The Pats are one of the NFL’s favorite teams. There was no bias back then either.

    It’s pretty cut and dry: They broke the rules, lied about it, got caught, got punished. Plain and simple. Quit making excuses!

  99. thehighhat says: Mar 23, 2012 2:26 PM

    15 Grand on Brad Johnson? I’d watch my back if anyone decides to steal his jello in prison.

  100. hendawg21 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:26 PM

    You know what’s worse then Gregg Willliams and his bounties??? It’s the unnamed sources/players I mean come on man up put your name out there, doesn’t Willliams have the right to face his accusers??? As Charles Barkley said B*tch A$$ snitches…and the way I see it in a clean game no extra money if you play QB, RB, WR you have a bounty on you anyway…geez how in the H#?? do they expect you to play a violent physical game which requires hitting and not expect someone to get hurt? I”m sure more guys have been hurt/had their seasons ended on good clean football plays/hits…and anyone who has ever played the game knows it involves some hard hits and plenty of pain…

  101. parenthesis78 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:27 PM

    I’m a redskins fan .. and the thing that stood out in that article .. was ..
    …”As it turned out, Johnson was not knocked out of the game, and he led the Vikings to a win over the Redskins”

    yup that sounds about right … my sorry skins ..smh ..
    but um yeah .. greg is a goner ..

  102. gacoltfan says: Mar 23, 2012 2:27 PM

    sfsaintsfan says:
    Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM
    This has been going on for years with multiple teams involved. The NFL has not asked a SINGLE team about their knowledge of past “pay for performance” or “bounty” programs.

    They have not asked, because:

    A) They already know the answer and it is not good.

    B) They don’t want to be lied to, and be forced to hand out punnishmnet to one of their “favorite” teams.

     They knew it was going on with several teams. They told the Saints and other teams it had to stop. The Saints didn’t stop and they lied and covered it up. Maybe other teams are still doing it, but until someone comes forward with specifics, like they did with the Saints, they aren’t going to just start investigating every team. They didn’t just randomly pick the Saints, someone came forward with credible evidence and so the NFL investigated. That’s pretty much how real life works. The gov’t didn’t just decide to pick on Enron and investigate them, and there were other companies doing a lot of the same thing. The difference is there was a whistleblower against Enron.

  103. lbpackfan says: Mar 23, 2012 2:27 PM

    Gregg should’ve taken that $15k and dropped it on the Vikes to win. Probably should’ve worried more on beating opponent than injuring their QB. Lifetime ban for Gregg…and everyone else involved.

  104. mnsadsportsfan says: Mar 23, 2012 2:27 PM

    To bad they did not target daunte cullpepper

  105. stricknineskinz says: Mar 23, 2012 2:28 PM

    Lol at the people complaining that the Skins didnt get the same punishment or saying they should lose RGIII now. None of those people are on the Skins anymore…none of the coaches, none of the players, not even the same GM. And we’re already dealing with our own unfair ruling.

    I think the main problem for the Saints is that litigation never seemed likely before, but due to the concussion issue and the recent lockout and following cba…the NFL had to at least look like they were putting a stop to it. I think the penalty was excessive, but they definitely had to appear to be proactive.

    I also think that had they been honest in ’10 when first told to stop…they’d be in nowhere near the trouble they’re in now. They continued to go about their business and lie. The emails from outside people offering money on the bounties may be the most damning things in this mess. This is gonna set a precedent….there is no way they can go back and punish everyone for “incentive” programs used by every team since the dawn of time. Gregg Williams is the scapegoat…and noone better get caught again because the Ginger Hammer comes down hard.

  106. broncobrewer says: Mar 23, 2012 2:29 PM

    You reported earlier that Smoot did this. Which one is right? Is Gibbs going to be fined?

  107. ninerswilldominatelikebefore says: Mar 23, 2012 2:29 PM

    makes me wonder how much $$ he’s going to put out on the bounty for the commish!! haha

  108. gacoltfan says: Mar 23, 2012 2:30 PM

    nolarules says:
    Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM
    move along….nothing to see here….this is a big market team with a rich and powerful owner and therefore untouchable

     If that’s the case, can you tell me why they took away salary cap money from the Redskins and Cowboys?

  109. thestewman3 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:30 PM

    I’m not a fan of the Saint, so I have nothing to gain or lose with this whole Gregg Williams issue. I am happy that the saints won the superbowl. I have the atmost respect for that City and it’s fan base. I went to N.O. for the first time last year during holloween and it was the best time I had. In fact New Orleans had the best Haunted House on Canel Street that I ever visited. Anway back to football. I was rooting for the Saints to win during the NFC champsionship but I must say that I was suprised of all the late hits of Farve (my opinion) I suspect that refs didn’t call a lot of them because they had thought they were boarderline, but watching the game I remember thinking how crazy the hits were and if it was Brady they would be more flags called. I suspect it was because Farve didn’t complain to the officials the way Brady does, so they allowed it to continue.

    The Bounty is not a shock to me because a lot of teams have done it throughout the years. What is a concern is the coverup and the lying at a time when the NFL is trying to protect players.

    I believe the suspension is a way to go because if you only fine the team say 1 million dollars that would just encourage more teams to do it. I mean who wouldn’t win a title for a million dollars. I think the NFL dropped the ball on Belicheat and he should have been supsended like payton but since he wasn’t payton’s suspension seems unfair.

    The Saints will bounce back from this.

  110. danielcp0303 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:30 PM

    On the surface, I didn’t really think much of it when I heard about “bounties” on players. But hearing each individual story about what went down, really makes me give the situation the right amount of disgust. I don’t care if players are “snitching” or not, they are doing the right thing.

  111. clw1906 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:31 PM

    Mataug give it a rest! Your idiot GM didn’t make the move to get RGIII so stop praying for a retro move to happen. The reason the Saints were hammered we’re because the HC GM are still present there and they lied to the investigators. Give it a rest pray for a new GM in Cleveland.

  112. hairpie says: Mar 23, 2012 2:32 PM

    Wow… so the Redskins are cheaters too. Again, Spygate sure looks like a walk in the park now, huh?

  113. kozmo50 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:32 PM

    This is worse than gambling on games………gambling someone loses money, parties can recover from a monetary loss.

    With “bountygate” you’ve got players being enticed with money to physically maime a fellow football player………

    Sorry no place for this in sports period!!

  114. PFTiswhatitis says: Mar 23, 2012 2:32 PM

    As the facts surrounding bountygate come out, it is hard to argue with the harsh punishments.

  115. huskersrock1 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:32 PM

    15,000 for Johnson???? It is a miracle he still has a dollar left.

  116. oakraid says: Mar 23, 2012 2:34 PM

    fin72 says:
    Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM
    “Gregg came in and dropped $15,000 on the [table] and said, ‘Brad Johnson doesn’t finish this game,’” one player said.
    ____________________________

    Is it me, or does Gregg Williams behave just like the sensei from the Cobra Kai?

    _______________________________
    LMAO!!

    “Sweep Favres’ leg, Vilma. You have a problem with that?”

  117. thestewman3 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:36 PM

    I think a lot of you are missing the point here.

    It’s not that teams have had bounty programs in the past, it’s that the Saint’s continued and then covered it up when the NFL told the teams to stop it.

    It’s like spygate. I’m sure teams did what the patriots did, but stopped when told my front office. Belicheat like the Saint’s ignored the memo and not only continued but lied about it.

  118. mwcarolina says: Mar 23, 2012 2:36 PM

    Is Gibbs going to be fined?
    —————————————————-
    if they investigate, he might, but honestly, i dont know if they investigate it and i wouldnt be shocked if he didnt know about this.

  119. claymath52 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:37 PM

    A Brad Johnson should have never been worth more than $10k…

  120. artielange says: Mar 23, 2012 2:38 PM

    Still waiting for all the posts calling Joe Gibbs a scumbag for allowing this to happen on his watch.

  121. jodave5 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:38 PM

    I’d have fined my guys $15k if they hurt Brad Johnson and forced him out of the game.

  122. Shudderbug says: Mar 23, 2012 2:39 PM

    That’s it. A curse on all associated with this mess. NO nor Wash will ever win another superbowl.

  123. ddaughtry81 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:40 PM

    Williams is no more guilty than Payton and Loomis. They all should get banned.

  124. wtfru2 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:41 PM

    There should be an asterisk next to their Super Bowl win, marked * — *CHEATED.

  125. therealsmiley says: Mar 23, 2012 2:47 PM

    I’m sure this has been the culture in the NFL for a long time….Greg Williams is old school and that’s the way his defenses play. Greg Williams didn;t start this but it looks like he’ll be the scapegoat to end it. They play to inflict pain on you. Ask Deacon Jones what his intention was anytime he hit a QB. You gonna ban him from the sport? You tell em’ you’re kicking him out of the Hall of Fame!! It’s a violent sport, extremely violent. I’m not condoning placing bounties on your opposition (because it’s outside of the players contract) but I still want Orakpo to hit Michael Vick so hard he doesn’t want to get up. I don’t want him injured but I want the “will” knocked out of em’. That’s football. If you think Greg Williams was the only coach doing this….we’ve got a lot of digging to hit paydirt. It will seriously damage the sport on top of it. The Commissioner has drawn the line in the sand….we get it..no more bounties. As far as banning Williams for life? C’mon dude…the guy loves the sport and I honestly think he’s sorry. Hail!

  126. really2011 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:50 PM

    edenprairieballer says:
    Mar 23, 2012 2:01 PM
    As a Vikings fan this is just plain ridiculous. You put a bounty on Brad freaking Johnson? Possibly the nicest and most humble player out there? I agree with Kluwe and Sullivan, ban Williams for life and Vilma, Fujita, McCray for a minimum of a year. I hope Saints fans realize their Super Bowl is as tainted as Barry Bonds’ home run record.

    ==================================
    Funny, You didn’t lose because of Bounty. The Saints beat up Brett Favre with minimal flags and a fine or two after the fact. Since all of the “hits” were in progress at the whistle or as the whistle was blown, nothing different than what we see all over the league. Yes the intensity was amped and the hits were on the line (kind of old school) but you should suspend the O-Line for not showing up. Nobody ran up to the huddle and hit Favre.

    Hey on a different note please tell me why your Vikings, who incidentally started the allegations in 2010, signed the guy who allegedly played a part in their complaint. (3 years $9 mil)

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/vikings-sign-remi-ayodele/

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/03/21/149101897/was-the-saints-bounty-for-injuring-opponents-effective?ft=1&f=

    Also, almost every expert who agrees with the reprehensible nature of the Bounty also agrees that this didn’t tilt the tables. Aggressive play did, bounty or not.

  127. dtr3e says: Mar 23, 2012 2:53 PM

    If he was doing this as a D.C. I can only imagine what it was like in Buffalo when he was the H.C.!

  128. clebrowntown says: Mar 23, 2012 2:57 PM

    Am I really the only one who actually read the entire piece?
    The motivation for the 15 grand bounty was not Johnson’s QB powers but the fact that Johnson had dissed D-Sub(Snyder) and the fact that Blanche said that fines would be taken care of…makes me ask if Snyder was the one paying the bounties and fines.
    Now what I’m suspecting is Williams was either following orders or brown nosing of the most extreme variety.

  129. kd75 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:00 PM

    $15k for Brad Johnson? What was the bounty for Trent Dilfer???

  130. 69jaredallen69 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:02 PM

    Anyone who saw Brad Johnson play that season would have said you would have had a better shot of winning the game with him playing than him on the bench

  131. modellforprez says: Mar 23, 2012 3:06 PM

    I’m shocked that after they saw goodell cracking down on players and rogers massive egotistictal way they would continue. really? u have to realize when sooo many ppl kno about it you have to think sooner it later its gonna get out. lastly they opened a investigation into bounties and the still kept doing it. KRAZY. he should be banned just think pete rose. LIFETIME. seeya scumbag

  132. stadanko says: Mar 23, 2012 3:08 PM

    Apparently sports writers have better investigation skills than the folks at the league office. Gotta love the double standard from Goodell and all of these hypocrite fans of other teams.

  133. conormacleod says: Mar 23, 2012 3:09 PM

    Hey Saints apologists; if 98% of the people in society have a different opinion than you, then YOU are the problem, not society.

  134. perrrplexed says: Mar 23, 2012 3:11 PM

    Am I the only one who doesnt see Williams working as a WWE manager in the near future?

  135. dexterismyhero says: Mar 23, 2012 3:12 PM

    To all Aints fans. Several teams were caught. They were told to stop and they did. The Aints didn’t and then lied about it.

  136. Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:16 PM

    Asterisks forever, the Saints STILL don’t have a Super Bowl win.

  137. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:17 PM

    League needs to ban Williams for life. I’m sure many more dirty moves by him will come to light in the next few weeks.

    More importantly this is clearly a criminal matter at this point. He was paying people to intentionally injure other people. This guy deserves to go to jail for conspiracy and anything else they can charge him with for these assaults. And assaults is just what they were.

  138. cowboyhater says: Mar 23, 2012 3:18 PM

    As a skins fan, I’m just tired of this organization being run through the wringer about every negative story, and how the perception of these stories seem to be how everyone perceives a true redskin fan. Let me just inform everyone: If you lived in the washington metropolitan area, you would realize that the fans are well aware of how badly this organization has been run since Dan Snyder purchased this team, and in now way is this a reflection of how the fans think, or do. All this fan base wants is to win and cheer for a well run organization, which if given a chance by this owner, can come to fruition if he just lets Bruce Allen, and Mike Shanahan change the culture.

  139. Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:19 PM

    And I’m going to love running up in these fake Saints fans’ bars that have popped up suddenly over the past three years all over New York City. They made me borderline homicidal back in November and I’m definitely going to give them every bit of it back. If they haven’t jumped ship to other teams’ bandwagons or going back to the paper bags over their heads.

  140. racksie says: Mar 23, 2012 3:20 PM

    This is just getting ridiculous. Bounties are not new to the league. They get paid for destroying people on every play. And I’m a Viking fan.

  141. jbarr1 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:20 PM

    15,000 for Brad Johnson? I’d think I’d wanna keep him in the game if I was playing against him. This obviously is a good example of you can’t cure stupid.

  142. lancegams says: Mar 23, 2012 3:20 PM

    Okay so the Redskins injured Adrian Peterson. Any chance that their wasn’t some incentive there?

    Who’s on the Redskins D that was there in 2009?

  143. pongonfl says: Mar 23, 2012 3:22 PM

    Every time they talk about Peytons neck on TV, Willmame has a chuckle. But, he went back in so no bounty paid.

  144. adkfootballfan says: Mar 23, 2012 3:23 PM

    Wow – the NFL has circled the wagons and won’t allow this story to touch and other teams.

    Somewhere, Bill Belichick is smiling…

  145. bucwild05 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:25 PM

    As a Bucs fan, I can honestly say… $15,000 was too high

  146. pongonfl says: Mar 23, 2012 3:25 PM

    As to the hits on Farve being legal, they were not legal, they usually would have been called. But that’s not about the bounty system, that’s about the pathetic NFL wanting to give the taints a superbowl.
    They didn’t call it, that’s the NFLs fault.

  147. d. b. cooper says: Mar 23, 2012 3:27 PM

    “The object of football is to inflict pain. Your intent is never to injure. Its to inflict pain.”

    Nope, the object is to play better than the other team, to make the plays to win the game, to outrun and outsmart. It’s not to inflict pain. The people who believe this are perverted, sick in the head.

    Roger Goodell and the league are doing a pretty respectable job of protecting players and I applaud every effort they make. There is no movement afoot to turn the NFL into flag football and to say that is to exaggerate to the point of hysteria. It’s a violent game and no rule that the NFL has made has come close to changing that fact.

    Greg Williams is a scuzzball and a cheat, same goes for Sean Payton. They both were seeking an unfair competitive advantage and they hurt people to do it. Williams should be out of football forever and Payton got an appropriate punishment. Saints fans are not at fault for this, but they make themselves look bad by defending this. It was an atrocious thing for anyone to do.

  148. theytukrjobs says: Mar 23, 2012 3:28 PM

    It is impossible to prove how many teams were cheating with a system like this. But we do know that most teams weren’t. We do know that the only evidence so far is pointing towards anywhere Greg Williams put his mark on. We do know the Saints were doing it while denying it openly.

    I mean, there really isn’t any way to defend them at this point. Their championship is tainted, their management is corrupt and cruel, and their entire organization is a disgrace. Who dat.

  149. jennstergersburnedretinas says: Mar 23, 2012 3:29 PM

    Think of the Reggie Bush hit which was called a Welcome to the NFL moment.

    That was Littos Shepphards chance to put an extremely hard hit on Reggie Bush, and he did.

    We weren’t over here crying saying…omg they were trying to hurt our players. No he wasn’t trying to hurt him…he was trying to hit his behind hard and he did

    NFL is full of Hypocrisy..and so is this site

    You guys posted about that Litto Shepphard hit for weeks..and it was a legal hit. Wonder if he got payed for it??

    _________________________________
    @duurking

    First off that was Sheldon Brown.

    Secondly, that was a textbook shoulder tackle on a player that got hung out by his QB.

    Third, you don’t have a point, have a terrible handle, and should stop posting.

    Thanks.

  150. jennstergersburnedretinas says: Mar 23, 2012 3:30 PM

    Also, Lito Sheppard wishes he could hit like that.

  151. cashisking4life says: Mar 23, 2012 3:30 PM

    Brad Johnson took himself out by sucking as a QB. If I’m a def coordinator, I want brad Johnson in the game cause he throws more interceptions than jay cutler lol. I lived in mn and we hated him as a qb

  152. ridgebak says: Mar 23, 2012 3:40 PM

    This guy is a lunatic. For all of the supporters, how would you like a 15k bounty on your head?

  153. cowboycjn says: Mar 23, 2012 3:41 PM

    thermalito says:
    Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM
    Saints are tainted champions with a big fat asterisk next to their NFC Championship game “victory.” This kind of cheating can’t be tolerated.

    – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
    Dumb dipstick, this article is about G. Williams with the Redskins in 2006. What does that have to do with you writting about the Saints? Go back to playing tiddly winks, nerd.

  154. brilskin says: Mar 23, 2012 3:46 PM

    He should have upped it to $20k. Brooks Bollinger was the backup.

  155. biggerballz says: Mar 23, 2012 3:46 PM

    i’m putting a bounty out on williams, 50 cents if you take out his smug smile

  156. harbaughbeastmode says: Mar 23, 2012 3:46 PM

    In this case I think the NFL should start looking into other Teams like let’s say James Harrison and the steelers??? Lol that guy would be the hit man pro, only if he played for the Saints he would be racking in the cash.

  157. ritchieemmons says: Mar 23, 2012 3:46 PM

    If Gregg Williams wanted to do the Redskins a favor, he would have put a bounty on Jason Campbell rather than Brad Johnson.

  158. lunarpie says: Mar 23, 2012 3:57 PM

    Greg Williams should be BANNED FROM THE NFL.

    This is America and you cannot expect his public stature to shield him from the law.

  159. rugdog100 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:59 PM

    I said it after the 2009 NFCCG and I’ll say it forever: Gregg Williams is a punk.

  160. captaintriumph says: Mar 23, 2012 4:00 PM

    The Vikings should have got those two 2nd round picks. At least! If the NFL Network ever decides to play a replay of that NFCC game, yes watch the late hits, but take an especially close look at the overtime. Well actually you don’t have to look hard, you can’t miss it. The refs helped the Saints cheat!

  161. jacunn2000 says: Mar 23, 2012 4:00 PM

    “G-Dub” should become a prison guard.

  162. fordwuzanazi says: Mar 23, 2012 4:08 PM

    Fisher should come under scrutiny because it was reported this bounty system started with Tennessee around the turn of the century and Fisher has had a position on the competition committee for years now and tried to hire the guy back with St. Louis.

  163. lvass76 says: Mar 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    G Dub hasn’t ever impressed me as a coach. He didn’t do anything for the Bills. Alex Smith looked like Joe Montana with Vernon Davis as his lone consistent weapon against his defense. Darren Sharper’s ball-hawking skills and leadership probably had more to do with helping the Saints win that Superbowl. Of course Favre helped too throwing one of his timely INTs we all know and love him for. G Dub deemed Brad Johnson that much of a threat to put a bounty on him? Doesn’t say much about his confidence in his own defensive coaching.

  164. cwmorga says: Mar 23, 2012 4:14 PM

    @thermalito says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Saints are tainted champions with a big fat asterisk next to their NFC Championship game “victory.” This kind of cheating can’t be tolerated.

    @wtfru2 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:41 PM

    There should be an asterisk next to their Super Bowl win, marked * — *CHEATED.

    @Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:16 PM

    Asterisks forever, the Saints STILL don’t have a Super Bowl win.
    ————————

    Your tears sustain us!

    Signed,
    2009 World Champion New Orleans Saints

  165. sdtex says: Mar 23, 2012 4:24 PM

    Are you sure he didn’t pay that much to make sure Brad Johnson STAYED in the game??? That would make more sense the way Johnson was playing

  166. janpage says: Mar 23, 2012 4:26 PM

    Vilma, Fujita, McCray – like the 3 stooges. Williams should be banned from the NFL for life and, as far as I’m concerned, he can take the other three with him.

    These folks are seriously bad for football and I hope they get what’s coming to them.

    As a Vikings fan and a Brett Favre fan forever, these 4 make me sick. They didn’t need the money to try and disable other players for life or worse. I guess they just did it for fun.

  167. therpol says: Mar 23, 2012 4:27 PM

    Please people, get your facts straight. One, the NFL TOLD the Saints, we have heard about a bounty program, end it now. The Saints response was we DON’T have a bounty program. So they lied to Goodell and continued the program. Two, when the NFL got concrete evidence (emails, etc.) and confronted the Saints, they lied about it again. Three, not only did the Saints have a program but a twice convicted felon (fraudulently selling NFL jerseys! (who is a friend of Payton’s and supposed to be banned from the Saints facility)) was sending emails to Payton offering money [$5K] for the pool; it also soesn’t help that the Vicodin issue (Payton and Vitt, on tape) was settled last week (more lies). Fourth, Safety of players/100+ concussion lawsuits is reason enough for this to stop. Those lawsuits will target the NFL, and should target the NFLPA as well. If I was one of those players I would be suing whoever Goodell names on the Saints personally if I can. The Saints got slammed because they lied, plain and simple.

  168. colonellingus439 says: Mar 23, 2012 4:29 PM

    This is really sad how pussified this country and this planet is becoming. It’s freaking FOOTBALL for f’s sake! Are you trying to tell me Lawrence Taylor or James Harrison or Jack Lambert weren’t trying to knock the QB out of the game WITHOUT a bounty every single time they made a tackle? So why is it different when these players get paid a couple extra grand by their coach for trying to knock players out of games when they already get paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for trying to knock players out of games? And if you think everyone on defense isn’t trying to knock key play-makers out of games as a strategy to increase their odds of winning, then you don’t know anything about football. Everyone needs to grow up and stop acting like football is NASA or a Cure for Cancer, because it’s not! It’s entertainment. Our lives are so sh*tty that we have to pretend to be appalled and disgusted that there’s organized violence in a sport based on violence, just to make ourselves feel better. They’re trying to fundamentally change this game that we all love right in front of our eyes and you are all supporting this change by voicing your disgust over this “scandal” and asking for harsher penalties because it’s only going to lead to the league enforcing even more their BS “player safety” agenda (While trying to extend the season another 2 games… figure out that conundrum). This is all about the league protecting their investments in their most popular players (the QBs) and avoiding future lawsuits from players suffering concussions. The league doesn’t give a sh*t about player safety. Once again, THIS IS FOOTBALL! If the players don’t want a giant neanderthal running full speed at them trying to take their head off, then THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE MADE A CHOICE TO PLAY FOOTBALL… go collect trash or work in an office or flip burgers like the millions of other people in this country who weren’t blessed with physical gifts!

  169. mattolikesthevikes says: Mar 23, 2012 4:31 PM

    This guy is horrible for the game. He made the saints look terrible and now the skins and not to mention the idiots that he got to go along with this bonehead idea. I hope he gets a lifetime ban. NFL needs to make an example out of this guy. This is 1000 times worse than the Pete Rose scandal.

  170. nebster21 says: Mar 23, 2012 4:36 PM

    Got to love a class act like LaRon Landry saying something like this on his way out. Come on Sapp call Landry out on it.

  171. magnumpei says: Mar 23, 2012 4:38 PM

    This is the sort of thing you’d expect to find in one of those old Blitz videogames.

  172. fwippel says: Mar 23, 2012 4:45 PM

    If this is the kind of person Williams is, he should be banned from the NFL for life, period.

    How long did this guy do this? Didn’t Peyton Manning also get hurt against Washington that same year? That may have been the beginning of his neck troubles.

    Williams should be gone, permanently.

  173. alaricsrevenge says: Mar 23, 2012 5:01 PM

    Gregg Williams is the NFL’s Pete Rose now…

  174. bmfandre says: Mar 23, 2012 5:04 PM

    So when does Washington start getting penalized draft picks? Or Green Bay for that matter? How about looking at Buffalo? This guy was a head coach there. If he ran bounties at programs when he was just a coordinator, I’d hate to see what he kind of programs he spear-headed as a head coach.

  175. bozosforall says: Mar 23, 2012 5:09 PM

    lbpackfan says:
    Mar 23, 2012 2:27 PM
    Gregg should’ve taken that $15k and dropped it on the Vikes to win. Probably should’ve worried more on beating opponent than injuring their QB. Lifetime ban for Gregg…and everyone else involved.

    __
    If he had done what you suggested, then he would have gotten “Pete Rose-d”, triggering the lifetime ban long before gettting his Super Bowl ring with the Saints.

  176. phillybirds says: Mar 23, 2012 5:12 PM

    Football is dead :(

  177. duece5 says: Mar 23, 2012 5:17 PM

    spammerhead says:Mar 23, 2012 2:24 PM

    I hope that the media will begin to make a bigger deal about the other teams where player have admitted to this behavior. What the Saints did is wrong and they should be punished, but all Saints fans and many other NFL fans are disgusted and irate at the disproportionate treatment of only punishing the Saints for this. I realize this is the biggest fear of the NFL because of potential liability issues and they wish it woul just go away, but is it fair to wreck one team and bury your head in the sand concerning other teams that are just as guilty?

    Only if the media will start to focus on other examples will the NFL be forced to look at other teams and dispense some form of penalty on all guilty parties. Let’s be honest. The behavior is despicable and any team where it’s happened should be penalized as well.

    Saints fans have a right to be upset because they are being made a sacrificial lamb while others get off scot-free. Any teams fan base would be mad about that. However, Saints players, coaches, and front office should be accountable for their part in a larger league problem. This isn’t just a Saints issue, even though God-dell wants you to think that so the NFL doesn’t get sued.

    duece5 says:

    spammer, you are trying to suger-coat this into the “everyone is doing it model” like many other taints fans!

    It has totally destoyed the “feel good” taints story, but too bad. The taints are the only team to LIE to Goodell for 3 years, told him they WEREN’T doing it (LIES), the GM told the owner he would take care of it (LIES), the head coach said he had no idea it was going on (LIES), Vilma offered 10k to knock Favre out, they hit him high low-ILLEGAL-on and on.

    The problem is, you want the NFL to investigate the “probability” that it went on with other teams. Not the way it works. The taints actions were so bad, with an “eff you” to the Commissioner in the form that they continued it, FOR 3 FREAKING YEARS, were told to END IT—-they DIDN’T!!!!

    They were the most pmpous, effyou team in the league.

    Now, your super bowl “win” is tarnished FOREVER.

    Live with it.

    If a whistleblower can bring to the NFL office with credible evidence of other bounties, then an investigation , can , and will happen. Why? Because if it IS credible, then the NFL could be held liable for not doing anything.

    Could there be 31 black eyes? Doubtful.
    But, until other evidence comes up that other teams were as aggressive as the saints, you’re just assuming (and hoping).

    HANDLE IT!!!!

  178. thevalsalvamanouvre says: Mar 23, 2012 5:21 PM

    That’s not very nice, Greggggggg. I wonder if Lemon Lips was standing there when that cash got dropped on the table.

  179. duece5 says: Mar 23, 2012 5:22 PM

    cwmorga says:Mar 23, 2012 4:14 PM

    @thermalito says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Saints are tainted champions with a big fat asterisk next to their NFC Championship game “victory.” This kind of cheating can’t be tolerated.

    @wtfru2 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:41 PM

    There should be an asterisk next to their Super Bowl win, marked * — *CHEATED.

    @Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:16 PM

    Asterisks forever, the Saints STILL don’t have a Super Bowl win.
    ————————

    Your tears sustain us!

    Signed,
    2009 World Champion New Orleans Saints

    duece5 says:

    You forgot to add:

    The team with MOST DISGUSTING SCANDAL to ever hit the NFL!!

    Trust me your “championship” is tarnished forever, whether you like it or not…….join the patriots as a “classy” franchise!!

  180. duece5 says: Mar 23, 2012 5:22 PM

    cwmorga says:Mar 23, 2012 4:14 PM

    @thermalito says: Mar 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    Saints are tainted champions with a big fat asterisk next to their NFC Championship game “victory.” This kind of cheating can’t be tolerated.

    @wtfru2 says: Mar 23, 2012 2:41 PM

    There should be an asterisk next to their Super Bowl win, marked * — *CHEATED.

    @Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 3:16 PM

    Asterisks forever, the Saints STILL don’t have a Super Bowl win.
    ————————

    Your tears sustain us!

    Signed,
    2009 World Champion New Orleans Saints

    duece5 says:

    You forgot to add:

    The team with the MOST DISGUSTING SCANDAL to ever hit the NFL!!

    Trust me your “championship” is tarnished forever, whether you like it or not…….join the patriots as a “classy” franchise!!

  181. ilovefoolsball says: Mar 23, 2012 5:33 PM

    I think Congress needs to get involved and investigate all other 31 teams and see how deep this bounty behavior went.

    Make sure you “fans” wear helmets so you don’t hurt your heads jumping off those white high horses so fast.

  182. sb50 says: Mar 23, 2012 5:45 PM

    Bounties are horrible, I get that. However, how can you tell if someone is going full speed and making a huge hit on a quarterback to a player intentionally trying to break the QB’s back and ruining his career?

    ‘Brad Johnson doesn’t finish this game,’ Does this mean “i want him brain dead and never walk again”? or does this mean “I want him on the ground every pass play and make him never want to play us ever again. Make him feel pain and make him crawl off the field”

    Because my High School Defensive Coordinator always used to say “put a huge hit on the guy with the ball” or “Go out and knock someone the f*ck out” but that never meant one guy go low and the other go high and tear his legs off it was just simple football.

    I am a huge Eagles fan and the Redskins and Eagles game with Buddy Ryan, the game that was called The Body Bag Game. Was that a bounty or was that just a plain old-fashioned football game? If we had a game like that now-a-days that team would have been out of the league because of how big this one story got.

    I understand bounties are a disgrace to the game but there is a difference between a coordinator telling his team to knock the piss out of the opposing offense to where as a coordinator telling his MLB to break every QB’s neck

    But I feel like all NFL players are going to be playing two hand touch from now on because of how big this story got from the media.

    It’s just my opinion about it.

  183. mike8016 says: Mar 23, 2012 6:10 PM

    Injured Brad Johnson? He wasn’t even relevant in 2006

  184. detroitcityryda says: Mar 23, 2012 7:05 PM

    G-Dub what a gangsta name I can picture him speaking to his soldiers “bj doesn’t finish this game ya hear we gonn hit em hard playas pop pop pop aim 4 the head ,aight now errybody G-Dub on 3 ,,,1,2,3, G-dubbbbbbbb

  185. spliffbunker says: Mar 23, 2012 8:36 PM

    has anyone asked where all this money was coming from ?

    Gregg Williams is paying $15000 out of his own pocket ? somehow I doubt that…

  186. Mr. Wright 212 says: Mar 23, 2012 9:16 PM

    Your tears sustain us!

    Signed,
    2009 World Champion New Orleans Saints
    ———-

    Whatever “tears” I’m “crying” are tears are joy. We just hoisted a LEGIT Lombardi, boy boy.

  187. paulieorkid says: Mar 23, 2012 9:33 PM

    @ jennstergersburnedretinas says:
    Mar 23, 2012 3:29 PM

    —–

    Bingo! So I wasn’t the only one thinking that duuurking clown was confused.

    The real kiss was Sheldon Brown in the flat – lit up Reggie good. Where’d he get Sheppard on a pop like that?

    Duuurking should do less posting, and more luuurking.

  188. bamasleeper13 says: Mar 23, 2012 9:59 PM

    WOW, how out of control was this guy? Pretty scary,he really hated the Vikes. How about incentives for take aways,or interceptions? Why really, really hurt a guy? Win! Doesn’t it hurt more to lose?

  189. lnfinite says: Mar 24, 2012 3:23 AM

    nolarules says: Mar 23, 2012 2:02 PM

    move along….nothing to see here….this is a big market team with a rich and powerful owner and therefore untouchable

    ____________________________________

    Nothing to see until your team hands over your tainted trophy. I really feel for Saints fans who thought their team was great until they find out what kind of shortcuts they took to win it all.

  190. NakedCowboy! says: Mar 24, 2012 4:51 AM

    when you hear the details it looks like it was being done very openly… but when you hear the players speak (even the ones who are x saints or retired players), they flat out deny…

    IMO this would have been a very common practice in entire NFL… you think about steelers vs raven games… they are clearly trying to injure each other…

    the saints are just poster child for this problem… but the problem exists in entire system…

    a statement had to be made… well done!
    but what took you guys so long!

  191. hatesycophants says: Mar 24, 2012 10:41 AM

    @sonofsamadam,

    That crack about Willie Roaf’s wife and Joe Horn is one of the funniest, lowest posts in the history of this site. I am not prone to hyperbole. Absolutely hilarious!

    Go Lions! Go Badgers!

  192. pizzon says: Mar 27, 2012 10:20 AM

    simple solution here just ban the guy from working ever again in the league in ANY capacity. now lets move on please and not beat this story to death.

  193. dellis07 says: Mar 28, 2012 6:53 AM

    I agree with most of the comments on here. I think it’s Gregg should get prepared for a pinkslip from the NFL.

  194. psousa1 says: Mar 28, 2012 1:13 PM

    what a scumbag. you can tell he never laced them up…………..

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