Comments on: Bucs confident Freeman’s lousy 2011 was an aberration

By: ezmagic

ezmagic — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:34:06 +0000

The bucs offensive will improve. It’s the D that scares the hell out of me.

By: darthhitman

darthhitman — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:55:42 +0000

geddyn says: Mar 24, 2012 7:07 PM

Matthew Stafford has Megatron. Not a fair comparison there. That isn’t to say Stafford isn’t good, because he is, but Freeman would put up similar stats if he had a receiver of Johnson’s caliber and an offensive coordinator who didn’t have his head clear up his rear end.

WOW, the ignorance never ceases. “Stafford has Megatron” has been used as an excuse as to why Stafford has looked good on the field, was in pro bowl consideration, why he was snubbed as the 3rd QB in the pro bowl, why he was snubbed as a pro bowl alternate. Go back fools, check how many QB’s Megatron has had throw him the ball. How many of ‘em put up 5k? Just ask Marshall Faulk, if you have Megatron you’d best throw for 5k. How many QBs do it that had him? You think it’s of coincidence Calvin’s best year [remember, coming into the season we was behind Fitz and Andre and most boards AND not even in CC's top 5] came in Stafford’s first full 1? You people will reach for for an excuse on anything. Most comebacks of 12+ points in a season, largest road comeback victory in history…I think Stafford played some role in that. Lastly, I don’t think Montana was that good or Young. They both had Rice, arguably the greatest PLAYER in history. He won a ring with both of them and played in another SB with Gannon under center. Don’t argue it either, there is much more evidence Rice makes the QB than Calvin

By: leeeroooyjeeenkiiins

leeeroooyjeeenkiiins — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 05:40:48 +0000

The problem wasn’t the lockout itself, it was Raheem and especially Olson’s reaction to it. They were using it as an excuse before the season even started and continued throughout. The offense was dramatically oversimplified, to the point where you could practically call almost every play yourself…and how much easier for NFL defenses? It’s also worth noting that more than half of his INTs came on throws right up the middle, most of which were to Winslow.

Meanwhile, Newton and Dalton had offensive coordinators that actually mixed things up by calling an unpredictable game and using their QB’s strengths while minimizing their weaknesses. Let’s hope Sullivan does the same, because this offense isn’t great but certainly has the talent and potential to confuse some teams if the players are utilized properly.

By: TylerHills

TylerHills — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 03:42:06 +0000

He was on a bad team (I mean did any player for tampa have a good season?) and only had 1 decent WR. Lets just give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he does this year with added help around him. He is still a young and very talented quarterback, he should be fine.

By: montsta

montsta — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 03:41:58 +0000

If you honest to god think Freeman is a top 5 QB, and that you’d rather have him over Stafford or Newton, then your opinion on anything football related is irrelevant and you need to be watching Desperate Housewives on Sundays instead of the NFL.

By: strokeytheclown

strokeytheclown — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 03:39:17 +0000

At one point I was a Raheem guy. But it apparent that he was in over his head. Kinda hard to coach when you wanna be one with your players. He had no ballsac at all. Players don’t respond to kindness, they need to be OBEDIENT

By: glazerh8er

glazerh8er — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 03:08:25 +0000

Stafford was good this year. Let’s see if he can stay healthy. Josh has played through both a broken thumb on his throwing hand and a nasty laceration on his throwing hand. Brett Favre said the thumb injury was the hardest in his career to play through. Stafford is a good QB. I think in 2010 there were a lot of GMs that would have said Freeman was the best of the 3. I’m telling you, no one would have done well on last year’s Buc’s team. Milkmandanimal said it best, that was possibly the worst defense in NFL history on the field at the end of last year. In the last game of the season it looked like ATL was going to put up 80 pts, not to mention Kreg Lumpin and Kellen Winslow knocked each other down running the wrong routes during a play. If you follow the local media in Tampa, you realize how epic the ineptitude of our coaching staff was, and how we were basically fielding a college team on D. Impossible to rally troops in those circumstances.

By: nflfollower

nflfollower — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:45:30 +0000

And to the seemingly never ending stream of posters who make ignorant comments about stafford “just throwing it as far as he can to Calvin Johnson all the time”, you obviously haven’t watched stafford play week in and week out, you only see calvins highlights. There is not a single GM in the league who would take freeman over stafford. Not one, and we all know it. So just give it a rest, we will see if freeman can avoid sucking again this year now that he has tons of talent to distribute the football to, including what should be a great o line.

By: nflfollower

nflfollower — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:37:56 +0000

Glazerh8er—–are you saying you would rather have josh freeman than stafford? Just looking for clarification. Because of staffords 41 TDs last year, 25 were to guys not named Calvin Johnson. Take away ALL 16 TDs he threw to megatron, and he still has 9 more than freeman. At this point, saying you would take freeman over stafford because stafford has megatron is not a credible statement by any stretch of the imagination. Don’t forget he was one of 4 qbs in the history of the game to throw for 5000, and he was 23 yrs old.

By: andyreiddoublecheeseburger

andyreiddoublecheeseburger — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:27:11 +0000

Most of the Bucs’ history has been an aberration

By: bigbluenationdb

bigbluenationdb — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 01:30:30 +0000

He is awful. In 2010 he won 10 games and didn’t beat one team with a record greater then .500. Average at best.

By: kingpel

kingpel — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 01:08:33 +0000

I agree that Freeman is better than he showed last year, but that defense FLAT OUT SUCKED. I’m not sure that getting rid of Coach Radio will be enough to make those dogs play any better.

By: raideralex99

raideralex99 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:55:24 +0000

Freeman passed for more yds in 2011 than 2010 … the only difference was … he played against good teams in 2011 and looked like a backup QB. The sign of a good QB is that he can play good against playoffs teams not just last place teams. Since the Bucs get the last place schedule this year … Freeman’s play will improve and we will have to listen to all the hype on how great he is.

By: hus10188

hus10188 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:47:09 +0000

Replace the word ‘confident’ with HOPE on your headline, unlike most I certainly didn’t think his 2010 season was all that great, certainly not enough to catapult him to instant top 10 QB status, like most were proclamating, even though that Bucs regular season schedule was weak as hell.

By: milkmandanimal

milkmandanimal — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:43:22 +0000

That team last year quit like no team I have ever seen; the Jaguars had scored 20 points once all season, and they hung 41 on the Bucs late season. The offensive line stood around, they had no back that could block, and the WRs appeared to be pretty much jogging down the field; Freeman at least was trying. Yeah, lots of picks on lots of forced balls, but he was one of the only guys on the team who appeared to care last year. That’s at least worth something.

Will he be good? I still think so, based on how well he played in 2010, and the fact that he kept fighting in 2011. Last year’s team ended the year as possible the worst team I’d ever seen (I think the 0-16 Lions would have smoked them), and the part of me still capable of optimism really likes the fact that Freeman at least TRIED. Really nobody else did.

By: kingmj4891

kingmj4891 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:40:37 +0000

glazerh8er says:
Mar 24, 2012 7:49 PM
Put Flacco on last year’s bucs……..for that matter, put T. Brady or Peyton Manning on last year’s bucs……for that matter put Drew Brees or Aron Rogers on last year’s bucs. Do you realize that a rookie outside linebacker from the Pac-10 was our defensive play caller (MIKE LB)??? An unnamed scout from another team in the NFC South told our beat magazine that the only players on our team that would even start on theirs are D. Joseph and A. Clayborn, and he couldn’t tell on Freeman because the team is just so bad.
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The Colts proved last year that P Manning can make a bad team a 13-3 team and playoff contender year in and out.

By: gotampabay52

gotampabay52 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:32:56 +0000

All those that hate on Freeman watch yourselves he had young players around him last yr new oline a true 1st wr watchout Freeman had a 10 win season new offencesive coaches watch out

By: jetfan28

jetfan28 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:21:54 +0000

Funny how much people killed Sanchez for being terrible last year but won’t say a peep about Freeman yet Sanchez’s numbers were way better than Freeman’s.

The double standard is ridiculous.

By: footballfan80

footballfan80 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:18:07 +0000

So now the season Freeman had last year was an aberration? And his rookie season was an aberration too? That kind of shoots down the definition of the word aberration no? If you have 2 horrendous seasons out of three, then the good year would be defined as the aberration.

By: gmsalpha

gmsalpha — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:09:36 +0000

Put Peyton Manning on last year’s Bucs and they make the playoffs. The Colts won TWO games without Manning. Nobody has been able to hide a bad team like Peyton, and the Bucs are a better team…minus the QB spot.

Flacco vs Freeman? Tough call!!! Probably Freeman, to be honest. By I really don’t believe either is a franchise QB. The main thing Josh has on his side is more time and the hope of better surrounding teammates, though V-Jax and Blount can’t be good for the ole’ locker room. Joe has already shown me he cannot get it done. Too bad too, because the Ravens’ window is quickly closing.

By: turbodog1027

turbodog1027 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:07:06 +0000

He sucks, just like the Yucks in general suck and will always suck.

By: toosharp23

toosharp23 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:02:15 +0000

The whole team was set up to fail last year, avg. age of 24, no leadership, Horrible defense so Freeman had to play from behind and the OC only called slant pattens that the WR were scarred to run, Williams got blown up a few times b/c of it.. There was no speed or running game.. Benn, although very athletic looks like lost most of the time.. Raheem lost the team – look at the Clippers and Knicks- if the coach loses the team its only down hill from there..

This season will be kind of rough and the Media will blast them again and say they wasted money but they have a whole new staff and it will take a full season but when they hit their stride it will be fun to watch…

By: turbo2728

turbo2728 — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:59:03 +0000

Dominik is only blaming the lockout because the alternative would be criticising players who are currently on the roster, taking shots at coaches who are no longer with the team or admitting that he made the wrong decision. Olson’s play calling was horrible and predictable. As for the receivers- all of whom Dominik signed or drafted- none of them could separate hence the constant check downs. Freeman had little help from those around him last year. A problem made worse by the revolving door we called a defence.

Freeman has shown he has a great work ethic and hopefully will prove that last year was a one off. He has a way to go, but he has all the potential to be a great one in this league for a long time.

By: huskersrock1

huskersrock1 — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:54:33 +0000

Freeman will be a great QB, just give him some time. About 15 years, of course, it won’t be in the NFL.

By: glazerh8er

glazerh8er — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:49:24 +0000

Put Flacco on last year’s bucs……..for that matter, put T. Brady or Peyton Manning on last year’s bucs……for that matter put Drew Brees or Aron Rogers on last year’s bucs. Do you realize that a rookie outside linebacker from the Pac-10 was our defensive play caller (MIKE LB)??? An unnamed scout from another team in the NFC South told our beat magazine that the only players on our team that would even start on theirs are D. Joseph and A. Clayborn, and he couldn’t tell on Freeman because the team is just so bad.

By: ravenator

ravenator — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:32:11 +0000

Flacco > Freeman

By: norrinradd12

norrinradd12 — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:31:17 +0000

His didn’t play nearly as bad as his stats indicate. He was just on a really, really, really bad team. Since 2009 they’re 0-8 when he doesn’t start, which tells how bad the team is and how good he is.

Must be hard for Stafford to drop back and just throw as far and as high as he can to a double covered Calvin Johnson. Funny how the Lions won a 4 in a row at the end of 2010 without it.

By: ezmagic

ezmagic — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:26:46 +0000

It was the coaching and offensive coordinating that made him look worse. They put too much on josh to make decisions and he tried to force too much instead of checking down. The year before they ran the ball a lot more which helps any QB.

By: zampft

zampft — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:19:47 +0000

Washington and Indy are both hoping they get the Manning and not the Leaf

By: nygsbchamps4

nygsbchamps4 — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:18:13 +0000

He was really good year before, so thats a fair statement.