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Cowboys, Redskins cap penalty should make league meetings interesting

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The NFL’s owners will begin to convene in Palm Beach on Sunday for the league’s annual meetings.

Hovering over the proceedings will be the decision to remove $46 million in total cap space from the Cowboys ($10 million) and Redskins ($36 million) over the next two seasons for their accounting practices during the uncapped year of 2010.

The league has admitted to the Redskins that the teams did nothing wrong and violated no rules.  Still, the NFL contends that treating the term “uncapped year” too literally disrupted competitive balance — even though the decision of multiple teams to grossly underspend in 2010 apparently gave rise to no such concerns.

The Redskins have been working to rectify the situation, privately communicating with the league and separately making plans for potential litigation.  But while no Redskins official has said anything publicly about the situation, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones opted on Friday to put the rest of the league on notice that he won’t take this one lying down.

And he shouldn’t.

As we understand it, the teams will try at the league meetings to lobby other owners, making the case for some adjustment to the punishment sans crime.  If, in the end, the Redskins and Cowboys get nowhere, litigation could occur.

“[T]here is no joy in Mudville, having to team up with the Redskins on a point with the league,” Jones told the Dallas Morning News. “They’re competitors, not cohorts.  It just shows you, independent of that, some of the issues we have with this cap-space issue.  Sometimes you can have strange bedfellows and this is one of them.”

The situation has several curiosities, which include a decision by the league to offer to the NFLPA the Redskins/Cowboys cap penalties in exchange for an increase in total cap space for 2012, and the absence of an ownership vote on the measure.  As one league source previously explained it to PFT, the mere act of conducting a vote would have given Jones and Redskins owner Dan Snyder an opportunity to attempt to secure the support of seven other teams, which then would have prevented the NFL from securing the necessary 24 votes to push the measure through.  (It also would have forced those teams that wanted to take cap space from the Cowboys and Redskins to go on record with a vote in favor of the move.)

In our view, the league needs to fix this before it spirals out of control.  It’s now obvious that the NFL was engaged in collusion in the uncapped year, trying to keep more money in the owners’ pocket and less in the players’ as a possible year without football loomed.  Still, forcing the Redskins and Cowboys to reduce to writing an allegation that the NFL and its teams tried to rein in spending and is now punishing the two that refused to go along with the illegal plan won’t be good for business.

Indeed, it won’t be good for anybody.

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82 Responses to “Cowboys, Redskins cap penalty should make league meetings interesting”
  1. thatdudewiththemarauder says: Mar 24, 2012 6:59 PM

    How about with the 32 pick in the first round the Washington Redskins select…..
    With the 33rd pick in the first round the Dallas Cowboys select….

    The Skins and boys will not get screwed over. They are going to make everyone involved in this pay!! HTTR!

  2. bigd88 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:01 PM

    I know a lot of people hate Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder.
    Heck, I’m a Cowboys fan and I honestly can’t stand Jerry.
    But at the end of the day, Jerry and Dan are in the right here and the NFL is so far in the wrong.
    Here’s to enemies teaming up to fight and put an end to some of the nonsensical, political BS that has gone on in the NFL.

    At the end of the day, this action by the NFL is simply unjust and can not stand.

  3. killitandeatit says: Mar 24, 2012 7:01 PM

    Wow the dumb and dumber owner duo. Should be interesting indeed.

  4. axespray says: Mar 24, 2012 7:04 PM

    it’s just a year or two of being handcuffed cap wise… bite the bullet for the rest of the league… build your team using the draft and lay off the big money contracts for now and knock it off with the whole “we’ll sue!” crap

  5. bleedsoe9mm says: Mar 24, 2012 7:05 PM

    Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones should apologize to the other owner for CHEATING!!!!!!!!!

  6. mrslay1 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:07 PM

    Go get em Jerry. There is know way the NFL can win here. What Jones and Synder did was in the favor of the players and we all know who is going to win the sympathy of the union and the public when that happens. Even here on this site that means nothing in the real world, almost everyone know what the league did was wrong. GODdell is about to become a fallen angle:-)

  7. steelerhypocrite says: Mar 24, 2012 7:09 PM

    Do you know what else would make the meetings interesting? A bunch of hookers…

  8. skinsrock says: Mar 24, 2012 7:12 PM

    At this point… The point has already been made & if they reduce the punishment it won’t matter because the Redskins have already missed out on the guys that could of been high targets for them. I think this definitely cost them the signing of say Eric Winston.

  9. damianx31 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:17 PM

    @Axespray – Go do a year or 2 in prison for a crime you didn’t commit. After all, it’s just a year or 2. Accepting punishment for something that was LEGAL and APPROVED of by the league would set an extremely bad precedence and would give the commiessioner….errr…I mean, commissioner, far too much authority over his own bosses.

  10. tommyf15 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:20 PM

    The owners were obviously STEALING MONEY FROM THE PLAYERS and violating the CBA by having a defaco salary cap when both sides agreed there wouldn’t be one.

    DeMaurice Smith should go for the throat and sue, the way the MLBPA did over the owners’ collusion in the late 80’s.

  11. satanphoenix says: Mar 24, 2012 7:20 PM

    If they do undo the penalties does the salary cap change?

  12. deangelo1776 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:22 PM

    Danny boy looks like the kid who everyone picked on. So he did what nerds do.. find out how to make money and make jocks pay. Now danny boy employs the jocks. hahaahah

  13. waltdawg says: Mar 24, 2012 7:23 PM

    In all seriousness….If you are critcizing Dan and Jerry, you are an idiot. They are the face of the NFL today.

    HAIL

  14. damianx31 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:24 PM

    @Satan – They probably wouldn’t do anything to this years cap, teams have already spent and gotten to where they need to be in terms of restructures/releases. My guess is that IF it was reversed, it would be added to each teams cap next season.

  15. drgfri says: Mar 24, 2012 7:25 PM

    Nice photo of Jerry. The peeled back facelift look is in full form. Dallas fans must be so proud of their owner/GMs vanity…..

  16. chawk12thman says: Mar 24, 2012 7:26 PM

    Simply put; if not specifically in the contract, does the league have the right to monitor, remove, add any team’s “imaginary” Salary cap space? What is the basis, other than warnings not to take advantage of the non-cap year?

    Isn’t taking advantage of the rules to better your chances of winning the whole point of the entire NFL system?

  17. jdouble777 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:28 PM

    Of all the owners in the NFL, these are probably the last two you want to try and pull one over on. They will blow this into the largest media nightmare since the Farve Retirement Saga. Seriously, is it not just better to find some sort of compromise to make this just go away?

  18. kokomike says: Mar 24, 2012 7:32 PM

    The NFL approved all contracts by the Skins and Cowboys. The NFL is illegal. Guilty.

  19. wwwfella says: Mar 24, 2012 7:35 PM

    they should forget the cap penalty and give both teams an extra second round pick this year as compensation for missing out on big name free agents because of the penalty.

  20. emperorzero says: Mar 24, 2012 7:35 PM

    This is why the Cowboys and Redskins haven’t won a title in awhile – the masterful ability to shoot themselves in the foot. If/when the league is found guilty of collusion, the Redskins and Cowboys are going to be liable as well and that will most likely cost them much more than the 10 and 36 million respectively. They’ve elected to cut off their own nose in spite of the face.

  21. jsrdc says: Mar 24, 2012 7:36 PM

    bledsoe9mm (and any other inept haters),

    Did you happen to read the 3rd paragraph of this story? Here you go:

    “The league has admitted to the Redskins that the teams did nothing wrong and violated no rules. Still, the NFL contends that treating the term “uncapped year” too literally disrupted competitive balance — even though the decision of multiple teams to grossly underspend in 2010 apparently gave rise to no such concerns.”

    Any moron who thinks either team did anything wrong, read the first sentence in the paragraph above. This is fodder for the haters, and the league will have to provide some sort of retribution for two owners who aren’t afraid to spend money in an UNCAPPED year on their player contracts. The rest of the owners in the league are a bunch of panzy-a$$es for crying about it, and DeMaurice Smith is a puppet concerned more about his job than doing the right thing.

    This is political BS at its finest, and DeMaurice Smith and Goodell are BOTH to blame in this one. You don’t approve player contracts only to retroactively penalize those same teams a couple years later for doing what was within the stated rules.

    The NFL is really starting to show its true colors, and I don’t like what I am seeing.

  22. dznutz28 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:37 PM

    I don’t think the potential repercussions were well thought about by Goodell and whoever got him to do this. If this goes to court, the NFL could potentially lose their anti-trust exemptions and who would benefit the most? The Cowboys and Redskins wouldn’t be forced into all the revenue sharing and could cut their own deals and spend whatever they want if the NFL lost it’s anti-trust exemptions. This has the potential to get worse for all the small market teams or whoever it was that got Goodel to engage in such foolish behavior. A large fine that could have been donated to charity probably would have avoided litigation but stripping cap space just wasn’t wise against these particular owners.

  23. cliffordc05 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:40 PM

    The Redskins and Cowboys were happy enough to sit in meetings with the other owners and agree to illegally collude with regards to player salaries. Of course they didn’t have the nerve to tell the owners and league officials that what was proposed was illegal and that they would not follow the guidelines or heed the numerous warnings the league gave them.

    Jones and Snyder are not only spineless worms but they are so completely inept that they wasted the extra money. Again……No Superbowl for You.

  24. bigjd says: Mar 24, 2012 7:41 PM

    Of course the Redskins haven’t said anything. You don’t go making public statements when you’re getting ready to file a law suit.

  25. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:46 PM

    What a shock that the media is on the side of the Cowboys and Redskins! They would LOVE to see this escalate so they have more stuff to write about aside from Tim Tebow.

    One point. The NFL approving the contracts is utterly meaningless. The 2 teams didn’t violate a rule, they violated ethics. The owners are the ones, by way of the commissioner, imposing the penalties. Everyone is looking to blame Goodell but in reality he’s just the messenger.

    If the Commissioner did this on his own, without real cause, don’t you think the other 30 owners would be saying something? Do you think 30 other egomaniacal billionaires would let this happen and set an unwanted precedent? I know people like to pick sides, mostly to be like sheep but, come on! Just the other owners’ silence alone should tell you something.

  26. jsrdc says: Mar 24, 2012 7:46 PM

    And btw, Snyder nor JJ will sue the league. There will be some sort of agreement the league will make because they know they are wrong, and they will admit it.

    This is a clear cut case of politics, and Snyder and JJ won’t take this laying down, especially when the expense of it is $46 million collectively in cap space.

    Goodell, Smith, and the rest of the owners in this league need to man up and do the right thing. I would be happy with adding the reduced cap totals to future drafts.

  27. mjkelly77 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:51 PM

    The league has admitted to the Redskins that the teams did nothing wrong and violated no rules.
    ________________

    Exactly who from the league and when and in what words was this done? Yeah, I thought so.

  28. eugenesaxe says: Mar 24, 2012 7:53 PM

    JJ/Snyder: Drop all thoughts of lawsuits in exchange for Goddell’s I QUIT. No pension, no golden parachute, just pack your crap and hit the bricks. Anything less, let slip the dogs of litigation. Once the lawyers spell out COLLUSION, I bet the other teams start seeing things through JJs eyes.

  29. steelpalace302 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:53 PM

    killitandeatit says:
    Mar 24, 2012 7:01 PM
    Wow the dumb and dumber owner duo. Should be interesting indeed

    Yeah they made their billions being dumb. Im sure they are worried about some guy making min wage posting on a blog lol

  30. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:55 PM

    jsrdc says:Goodell, Smith, and the rest of the owners in this league need to man up and do the right thing.

    —————————————————————

    Funny but I think that’s what Snyder and Jones were supposed to do in the uncapped year. According to 30 other owners, those 2 didn’t do the right thing.

  31. thejuddstir says: Mar 24, 2012 8:08 PM

    Jerrah and Danny-boy might be strange bedfellows but they are two peas in a pod. Both arrogrant interferring egotistical fools who know nothing about football.

  32. mjkelly77 says: Mar 24, 2012 8:16 PM

    It’s now obvious that the NFL was engaged in collusion in the uncapped year …
    __________________

    Maybe there shouldn’t be a salary cap. Maybe the league can exist as a 7 or 8 team league based in big market areas only. The surviving owners can buy out the small market owners. Maybe the players can make 2 or 3 times what they’re making today. The only problem is 75% of them will be out of a job.

    Dallas and Washington circumvented what was previously agreed to and now they’re contemplating blowing the whole thing up. Jerry Jones should have signed 25 or 30 of the best players in football to five year contracts totaling $800 million and loaded all of the salary into the “uncapped year”. The Cowboys could be in the Super Bowl five consecutive years. Jerry cheated the other owners. He knows it. He just thought he could get away with cheating a little because he didn’t have the balls to cheat big. And he won’t have the balls to sue, either. He’s dumb but he’s not stupid.

  33. zn0rseman says: Mar 24, 2012 8:23 PM

    Some people seem to think that if something is legal, it is also ethical. That is simply not true and to believe so is the act of a fool. In this case Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder clearly are among those foolish people.

    Their colleagues agreed to a certain protocol, and regardless of the legality of that protocol, what is right is to follow those guidelines and what is wrong is to try to get away with something shady that screws your peers, while trying to hide behind the corrupt institution that represents our legal system. Such action is clearly “doing something wrong”. I’m sure we all have no trouble understanding why lawyers have a hard time understanding that concept, but that doesn’t make it any less true.

  34. cowboyhater says: Mar 24, 2012 8:23 PM

    Worth repeating here:

    Bottom line, all parties involved are at fault here. The problem is that the commish signed off on the contracts before realizing the ramifications of what the skins, and boys created to the other owners. Hence, the unfair competitive balance outrage from the other owners. Since Goddell works for the owners, he had to appease the majority by enforcing a penalty, which is now where we are at. Mara was the ring leader in the penatly, which since it’s against his nfc east foes looks a bit fishy. Time to fix this mess, and both sides come to a compromise, and give half that cap space money back. Most top talent has been signed, so the penalty this year has already affected both teams. Just take away next year’s cap restriction. Problem solved.

  35. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 8:27 PM

    mrslay1 says: Mar 24, 2012 7:07 PM

    Go get em Jerry. There is know way the NFL can win here. What Jones and Synder did was in the favor of the players and we all know who is going to win the sympathy of the union and the public when that happens. Even here on this site that means nothing in the real world, almost everyone know what the league did was wrong. GODdell is about to become a fallen angle:-)

    ————————————————————-

    I’m sorry but this could be the dumbest post I’ve ever read on this site.

    WOW.

  36. mattw70 says: Mar 24, 2012 8:28 PM

    “The 2 teams didn’t violate a rule, they violated ethics. “thetruth845
    ———————

    Please name and describe the “ethic” they violated.

    I bet you can’t,and why do you and others keep saying that the approval of the contracts are meaningless? That’s how the system works,that’s the RULES you go by..if they didn’t like it..not APPROVE it.

  37. mnlittle says: Mar 24, 2012 8:35 PM

    I’m very proud of Jerry for standing up for the Cowboys and the fans! Sic ‘em Jerry!

  38. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 8:46 PM

    Please name and describe the “ethic” they violated.

    I bet you can’t,and why do you and others keep saying that the approval of the contracts are meaningless? That’s how the system works,that’s the RULES you go by..if they didn’t like it..not APPROVE it.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————

    LOL. Matt,

    1)The owners agreed not to dump salaries into the uncapped year to create more room in later years. 2 teams decided to not honor that agreement. Thats the ethics violation. Clear enough? 32 owners agreed…2 decided to violate that agreement.

    2) The NFL approved the contracts because they fit the structure under the no cap year. The League warned them repeatedly that the contracts, although approved, violated the agreement made by the owners. The fact that the contracts were approved means squaddush. Its simple paperwork and structure.

  39. patsaintsbroncoscheat says: Mar 24, 2012 8:49 PM

    Jerrah and Snyder won’t win! You don’t get ahead defying your boss (don’t kid yourself Goodell is the boss). Snyder and Jerrah wont find seven teams that agree with them. Most are probably fully behind this punishment. Even those that aren’t won’t mind the advantage for the next couple years.

  40. macwomack says: Mar 24, 2012 8:57 PM

    @Bleedsoe please read the article before posting. reading is both interesting and informative.

  41. musicman495 says: Mar 24, 2012 8:58 PM

    Not only did Snyder and Jones not do anything illegal, the owners HAVE done something illegal – namely conspire to violate anti trust laws. It cannot be illegal or unethical to refuse to take part in a conspiracy to break the law. And the owners have bought the players union silence with a bribe in the form of a higher salary cap. And then the owners further conspire to ramrod the penalties through by not having a vote of the ownership that might go the wrong way. The NFL gives socialism a bad name. Maybe while the Senate has Goodell under oath so he can pontificate about player safety and the uber bad New Orleans Saints, they can also ask him about this criminal activity.

  42. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:02 PM

    Collusion: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose

    That word is being throw around a lot. I figured I’d throw up the definition so all the people using it on this thread realize they have been using it wrong.

    Owners agreeing to not dump salaries into the uncapped year is the polar opposite of collusion. An agreement to maintain competitive balance is not Deceit. The Cowboys could have signed Miles Austin to a 1 year $billion contract and it would have been fine because it wouldn’t have had an affect on later years. Instead they took a $10mm signing bonus and a 1st year $7mm base and made it a 1st year $17mm base avoiding the cap # on the signing bonus over the remaining years of the contract. The Redskins front loaded Fat Albert’s contract so they could dump him without consequence.

  43. musicman495 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:07 PM

    LOL. Matt,

    1)The owners agreed not to dump salaries into the uncapped year to create more room in later years. 2 teams decided to not honor that agreement. Thats the ethics violation. Clear enough? 32 owners agreed…2 decided to violate that agreement.
    ————————————–
    You have absolutely no idea who agreed to what because you were not there. Clear enough?

    And if it was an ethics violation not to follow the salary cap when there was no CBA, then what is the penalty for the teams that did not spend above the CBA floor (eg. Tampa Bay), who now have the other owners at a competitive disadvantage because they can spend like drunken sailors this year in free agency (eg. Tampa Bay).

  44. mattw70 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:10 PM

    ” 2 teams decided to not honor that agreement. Thats the ethics violation. Clear enough? 32 owners agreed…2 decided to violate that agreement.”

    LOL,thetruth846

    Where did you get this info..that 32 owners agreed?
    And If true,I still don’t think this has anything to do with ethics.

    “The League warned them repeatedly that the contracts..”

    I’ve read where this isn’t true at all.So..whom to believe?

  45. craigmaitland says: Mar 24, 2012 9:17 PM

    What good is a reversal for this yr at this point? Both teams already had their hands tied for free agency. They should get supplemental draft pick compensation. (end of 1st round this yr and next) as well next yrs penalities lifted.

  46. 0sakpo says: Mar 24, 2012 9:24 PM

    i would cheer for JJ n the Cowgirls da 1st time in my life if they decide to take a stand wit Snyder …….

  47. bigbadal21 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:26 PM

    Godell works for the owners. He is not the boss. The owners are the boss. Godell is the owners puppet. When you realize this maybe you will quit yelling for Godells head. The owners just love the fans blaming Godell for everything. Let me give you a little tip. If Demarcus Smith and Godell changed jobs then Smith would be acting exactly like Godell and you would be yelling for Smiths head. He’s their puppet!!!! get it?

  48. bigbadal21 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:31 PM

    One more time for the challenged. There was no cap in 2010. There was no ceiling and there was no floor. Teams could spend as much as they wanted or as little as they wanted in 2010. The league could not have cared less. What did matter to the league was that they did not want money “dumped” into the 2010 year. Dallas and Washington “dumped” money into 2010. They are getting what they deserve.

  49. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:39 PM

    musicman495 says: And if it was an ethics violation not to follow the salary cap when there was no CBA, then what is the penalty for the teams that did not spend above the CBA floor

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    Reading comprehension is key.

    It was an ethics violation TO DUMP MONEY INTO THE UNCAPPED YEAR. The old cap rules had nothing to do with it. The Cowboys and Redskins could have used every $ they had signing guys to 1 year contracts and it would have been fine. Just dont structure long term contracts and dump a huge portion of the contract into the uncapped year to circumvent the cap later when there is one.

    Pretty simple.

  50. thetruth845 says: Mar 24, 2012 9:47 PM

    And if it was an ethics violation not to follow the salary cap when there was no CBA, then what is the penalty for the teams that did not spend above the CBA floor (eg. Tampa Bay), who now have the other owners at a competitive disadvantage because they can spend like drunken sailors this year in free agency (eg. Tampa Bay).

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    What does the 2010 season have to do with the 2012 season? The roll over # started in 2011.

  51. bleedsoe9mm says: Mar 24, 2012 9:55 PM

    your an idiot if you think what the redskins and cowboys did wasn’t CHEATING . the league told team there would be serious consequences for front loading or dumping salary in the uncapped year . cowboys and redskins should have been fined and had draft choices taken away for trying to cheat the system

  52. andyreiddoublecheeseburger says: Mar 24, 2012 10:03 PM

    Someday Jones and Snyder will be united once again, enjoying hayrides with Hitler and Stalin.

  53. mrslay1 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:07 PM

    I have read many,many stupid on this site. But you DUMB, spinless little PU$$Y. You don’t know anything that happened in those meetings and certainly you are to STUPID to understand whats going on here. Be glad you can hide behind your coumputer screen you pitiful little maggot!

  54. steelpalace302 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:16 PM

    Ok for all of you saying the Cowboys and Redskins are wrong. You claim they dumped money into the uncapped year. Take a look at this

    Julius Peppers- Bears signed for 84,000 here was his pay for 2010
    Base; 20 mil
    Bonus-1.08 mil
    Misc Bonus- 13.85 mil
    Of a 84 mil contract he was paid 34 mil in 1 yr 2010 sounds like dumping to me where is the cap hit for Chicago ?

  55. steelpalace302 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:18 PM

    Oh and by the way he had his contract restructured in 2011 so that the Bears could lower his cap hit because they had dumped almost half already

  56. steelpalace302 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:19 PM

    sorry I meant to say 84 mil not 84,000

  57. steelpalace302 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:24 PM

    Yeah thumbs down when its your team right. How many players are paid 34 mil for one yr and those numbers are facts . The bears dumped his 34 mil of his contract into the uncapped yr and the NFL turned its head. Just because its the COWBOYS And REDSKINS they must be wrong right ?

  58. mrslay1 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:24 PM

    Thank you for one upping me!

  59. bleedsoe9mm says: Mar 24, 2012 10:33 PM

    the league can call it what it want but its CHEATING
    google a wonderful thing

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/19/team-by-team-salary-cap-numbers-if-there-were-a-salary-cap/

    “Team-by-team salary cap numbers, if there were a salary cap
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 19, 2010, 10:43 AM EDT

    Many of you have asked for more information about the expenditures of your favorite teams.

    So we’ve got the full list.

    Redskins: $178.2 million.

    Cowboys: $166.5 million.

    Saints: $145.0 million.

    Vikings: $143.4 million.

    Seahawks: $138.8 million.

    Jets: $135.7 million.

    Packers: $135.3 million.

    Raiders: $135.2 million.

    Colts: $133.1 million.

    Bears: $131.9 million.

    Eagles: $131.0 million.

    Patriots: $128.8 million.

    Giants: $128.6 million.

    49ers: $125.9 million……ect ”

    which to teams are at the top of this list ??????

  60. steelpalace302 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:35 PM

    Julius Peppers base salarie for 2011 900 thosand. Wow thats a big change from the 20 mil base in 2010. Hmmmm

  61. mattw70 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:37 PM

    There was articles written at the time..calling the Skins smart and lucky for dumping Haynesworth salary in an uncapped year.

    Now it’s cheating…didn’t hear 1 person saying anything at the time.Just in the last few weeks.

  62. mattw70 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:44 PM

    “Team-by-team salary cap numbers, if there were a salary cap”..but its CHEATING”

    So..there wasn’t a salary cap..but there really was??

    That’s like saying..NO SPEED LIMIT Today..then posting a speed limit the next day and giving out tickets for speeding during the no speed limit day.

    OK I think I got it.

  63. thefiesty1 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:50 PM

    There was absolutely NO competitive balance obtained NY either team during their uncapped year. Neither team was competitive last season.

  64. maverick2560 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:50 PM

    Fans forget what Goodell and the owners did to the players when they secretly violated the cba by renegotiating a few of the T.V. contracts. This provided a revenue stream to the owners should there be no season in 2011. Judge Doty clearly found that the owners had violated their contractually created fiduciary duty to negotiate to their best ability on behalf of BOTH the OWNERS and PLAYERS. The owners gave certain networks added benefits for money that benefited only the owners.
    Now in this instance the owners once again secretly violated contractural provisions they agreed upon with the players association.
    The owners essentially lied to the players on two occasions. The owners and especially Mr. Goodell’s central involvement in both instances is troubling. Mr. Goodell has set a high penalty to parties who have mislead the NFL. Perhaps he should practice what he preaches .

  65. cmarsh64 says: Mar 24, 2012 10:59 PM

    Didn’t the league shoot down the Tebow contract twice before it finally got approved? Answer YES so why penalize Cowboys and Redskins when they where approved contracts…The Cowboys and Redskins spent money in the uncapped year and the other 30 cheap owners didn’t thats the problem.Lets not forget that next year 2013 starts the spending of CAP MONEY..Teams must spend 90% of the cap next year thats why you see teams like Tampa Bay spending money this year.No more Hoarding like the Bengals almost 39 mil under the cap and Tampa was 44.9 mil under the Cap. If it where in effect this year using just 120 mil as the number 108 mil would have to be spent by every team period and that figue goes up each year till it reaches 95% of the cap in any given year.

  66. watermelon1 says: Mar 24, 2012 11:02 PM

    Wasn’t the whole purpose on the Redskins and Cowboys having huge salary cap room THIS year… so that they could make a huge push to win it all THIS year?

    Nothing the league can do will make this right. This free agency was the time both these teams were planning on making a huge push.

    Who knows what could have happened if the Cowboys paired Demarcus Ware with Mario Williams. At least the Redskins were able to make some moves despite this. They had to get someone besides Santana Moss to throw to no matter who their QB ended up being.

    And with all that said, all I want to hear out of these league meetings is the schedule. So get to work boys! I expect the leaks of highlight games to start as soon as this week!

  67. freedomispopular says: Mar 24, 2012 11:43 PM

    Spygate
    Controversial policies (rule changes on defense, “18 games…its what the fans want!”, London games)
    Lockout
    Concussion lawsuits
    Bountygate
    And now this

    Wow, Roger’s building up quite a resume.

  68. Little Earthquake says: Mar 24, 2012 11:59 PM

    So two crappy teams spent more than they should on salary and still couldn’t win a Super Bowl between them?

  69. skin94249 says: Mar 25, 2012 12:17 AM

    Who said Jones and Synder agreed to not load the uncapped year? Sounds like the Saints and Raiders disagreed as well.

  70. goodfieldnohit says: Mar 25, 2012 12:36 AM

    So what players did Jerrah sign that violated whatever arbitrary rule that didn’t exist until Goodell said it did?

    Tell me what player the Cowboys signed that nobody else in the league had a chance to help a team go 8-8.

  71. ach477 says: Mar 25, 2012 12:48 AM

    Ok let’s look at the link from 2010 and what would be the salary cap numbers IF there was a salary cap. The ceiling being about 123 million and the floor being about 111 million. I count 9 teams over by at least 10 million. I also count 6 teams under the floor by at least 10 million. That would make 15 teams breaking the NON existing rules. How do you only pick 2 teams to punish? Also it can easily be argued that the teams that spent significantly below the floor and banked the cash and cap space gained as much or more advantage. Seems to me the numbers are more like 15 out of 32. Danny and Jerry can just say fine punish everyone equally and we will shut up. Perhaps this is the reason there was no vote? It would never pass. But by announcing the day before free agency makes sure the damage is already done.

  72. Angry Orange Man says: Mar 25, 2012 2:25 AM

    Anyone that believes these two morons were doing anything other than trying to circumvent rules that others were abiding by is beyond foolish.

  73. bigbadal21 says: Mar 25, 2012 2:38 AM

    steelpalace302 says:Mar 24, 2012 10:35 PM

    Julius Peppers base salarie for 2011 900 thosand. Wow thats a big change from the 20 mil base in 2010. Hmmmm

    It amazes me how dumb some people are. Peppers was a free agent signed by Chicago in 2010. Chicago could have paid him 100 million in 2010 if they wanted to. There was no salary cap in 2010. What Dallas and Washington did was dump money into the 2010 year after they were warned numerous times not to do this for the good of the league. Cutting Haynesworth in 2010 by Washington was a good idea. Show me where Washington is being punished for doing so. They are being punished for other infractions, not the Haynesworth cut.

  74. markwmeier says: Mar 25, 2012 2:55 AM

    What a load of idiot comments.
    80% of you guys have an opinion about Redskins or Cowboys and you just lean on the arguments that hurts them, regardless of how right or wrong they are.

    1) There are no rules in an uncapped year.
    2) The so called ”ethics” you lads casually refer to is actually collusion WHICH is the only thing that is actually illegal in this matter, guess which two teams didn’t participate in this? Thats right, Cowboys and Redskins.

    Sure what they did was ”cheap” but as it is in the parameters of the league rules there is nothing you can do.

    So for once in your lifetime, shove your mindless hate to these two teams and actually think of the bigger picture. How do you picture yourself reacting when the league all of a sudden punish your team for doing something that isn’t illegal.

    P.s DeMaurice Smith, I hope you are disgusted when you look yourself in the mirror. Can’t believe you got voted in again, the only interest you protect is those of your own.

  75. yojoemama says: Mar 25, 2012 3:33 AM

    Redskins and Cowboys were warned like all the other teams in 2010 to not exploit the uncapped season by front loading all new contracts (i.e. Haynesworth) signed at that time to set themselves up for an unfair advantage a few years down the road. They were warned by the league office of potential penalties that could occur against any violators. Still, Cowboys and Redskins went ahead anyway crossing their fingers it wouldn’t come back to bite them.

    Well, today they and their fans are crying like a bunch of babies. Sorry kids, but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Can’t have it both ways. But I guess that concept is too foreign for the two biggest spoiled brats (a.k.a. Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder).

  76. botchedextrapoint says: Mar 25, 2012 7:06 AM

    I have a long standing hatred of the cowboys and redskins but this stinks. During the lockout the NFLPA tried to prove collusion. The NFL maintained that the franchises are 32 independent entities. Early in the lockout the NFLPA won some early court battles and looked to have the upper hand. It’s not a stretch to say that the Cowboys and Redskins behavior in an uncapped year provided fuel for the NFL to fight back to a stalemate that led both parties to negotiate and save the 2011 season. The NFL has such an owner friendly CBA in place now that they had to massage the cap to stop it going backwards for the first time ever. They get there by screwing over the two owners most directly responsible for getting the NFL the deal it wanted. If the NFL needed $46million to massage the cap they should have taken it from the owners that don’t spend and put a substandard product on the field. Looking at you bengals and bucs.

  77. stevemdlthn says: Mar 25, 2012 8:03 AM

    FIRE GOODELL……..Come on Cowboys, Patriots, Redskins, Saints get the ball rolling. Beware NFL owners your team could be next……

  78. blackbug99 says: Mar 25, 2012 8:34 AM

    Does it really matter if they get it back? As long as these teams keep their present owners they’re irrelevant!

  79. bstine1981 says: Mar 25, 2012 9:54 AM

    Cheating is when you video tape another team’s practice prior to the Super Bowl.

  80. skinsfaninnebraska says: Mar 25, 2012 11:19 AM

    “…the league needs to fix this before it spirals out of control.”. Well said!

    I can’t believe Goodell was stupid, or naive, enough to believe two of the league’s most bombastic owners would take this without complaint. This is a total hack job by the league and it will be interesting to see if they can find a graceful way out of the mess they created.

  81. jrh0 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:20 AM

    THe fact that the other owner voted in favor of pushing forward with the decision proves WHAT exactly? Nothing.

    The penalty says that the SKins and Cowboys LOSE cap space AND that all the other owners GAIN extra cap space, and some of you ae actually wondering why those rivals voted in favor of the penalty? really?

  82. jrh0 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:26 AM

    Also, the fact that the two penalized parties voted against it, the 30 votes in favor ALL have something to gain by voiting for it (extra cap space, plus screwing the big market teams) the guy who came up with the penalty also is an owner of a division rival team (who the skins swept last year) and they withheld the announcement of the penalty until the last minutes before free agency actually started? (Especially when it was common knowledge that FA spending was a cornerstone of the Skins team building strategy this year) and that somehow doesn’t look shady to people? Please. IMHO a big part of this penalty and the purposely late announcement of it was a clear play to capitalize on the Skins draft situation this year.

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