The league OK’d the deals, if they were doing something “wrong” why ok it. Unwritten rules do not hold up in court genius.

You must be a Giant fan, some of the dumbest fans.

Too bad. It’s either against the rules, or it isn’t. If we start going by what feels right, then injustice results. This is like that kid you played with in grade school who kept changing the rules as you went along so he could win. If the Cowboys or Skins broke the rule, then fine them. If they didn’t it, then live with it.

And they didn’t. There was no rule. It makes no difference if they dumped salaries or not. There-was-no-rule saying they couldn’t.

Congrats on getting the law degree – we are all very impressed with your accomplishments.

Now put that raging intellect to good use and let us all know which rule in the CBA, NFL by-laws, etc. (or any other document you wish to envoke) the Cowboys violated during the uncapped years.

Recognizing that you get it because you apparently know the answer to this question. We don’t “get it” because us non-lawyers cannot find the rule in question.

Thanks in advance for letting us know – and we thank you for your service to the legal community.

How many times did the Giants beat the Redskins last year?

Please do the research and post the answer for all to see to support your claim:

“john mara doesnt need any back door shenanigans to beat the boys and skins…..”

Oh never mind you don’t need to do research I will clue you in — the answer is zero times. That is right the Giants could not beat the Redskins last year.

On a side note reading is both fun and intersting – give it a try.

Imagine blowhards like Newt and Pelosi involved in hearings!! They have no idea what is about to happen if they proceed.

The “Players Union” doesn’t either!! 1 member can file an unfair labor practice against its Union “President” and this thing could get real!!

A.) They in no way, shape or form breached any provisions of the CBA.
B.) It was an UNCAPPED YEAR. Let that process through your thick skulls. If the owners don’t like that then why would they ever agree to it in the previous CBA?
C.) If Mara’s main defense to his purely punitive punishment of two division rivals is that we violated the “spirit” of the CBA then why weren’t the teams that spent substantially under the Cap punished? They created way more of a competitive advantage than either 2 teams by hoarding money for upcoming years.
D.) They processed this punishment without formally voting on the issue. I’m sure THIS IN ITSELF is a breach of contract.
E.) The contracts were APPROVED by the league. How can you approve an action TWICE and then retroactively punish someone?
F.)We weren’t the only two teams to do this. Go check out the Julius Peppers contract in Chicago. Just as bad.
G.) Just because cry baby Mara “Warned” us this would happen doesn’t mean he has ANY legal right to administer this punishment.

Mara handed out these punishments the day before Free Agency on purpose so he could punitively punish both teams. He is a shallow, insecure man who deserves to be strict of his roll with the Executive Committee. He acted in a purely jealous, unprofessional manner and all facts will be brought to light. Oh by the way we’re now told Jerry serves on this SAME council and never heard about this? Talk about major BS.

its not that they spent money, its HOW.

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No, it’s you that don’t understand what’s happening here. The NFL is guilty of illegal collusion during the uncapped year, and that’s a big problem.

As far as salary dumping, maybe you missed what the Bears did with Julius Pepper’s salary — and yet there is no punishment for them.

Uncle Roger and his cronies have stepped on their own tails, and it’s going to hurt!

The only basis for the penalty is violation of collusion, that is, failing to collaborate on something illegal.

This will be an interesting test of just how much the NFLPA has been brought to heel.

They have been handcuffed already for free-agency… not able to spend the amount of money that others could. How many FA pickups have they missed out on?

Already the damage has been done, even if they get their cap space back.

If I were Jerry or Snyder, I’d ask for at least:
1) the penalty-free carry-over of extra cap space from this year to the next (already they can carry over some, but I would want my team’s amount increased by a significant percentage of the penalty the NFL tried to apply)

2) Compensatory draft pick.

3) Public apology, and a percentage refund on every ticket a Dallas or Washington fan purchased.

Really? What’s with this Mara stuff? Nothing at all has come out that he has done anything himself.
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He is the chairman of the committee that found the violations and handed out the punishment. I guess that was just a coincidence, right?

john mara doesnt need any back door shenanigans to beat the boys and skins…..seriously people, think about it. the giants are one of the few organizations in the game that all the others aspire to be, both from how they are run to the product on the field.

jones and snyder are both clowns…and the nfl has MANY lawyers.

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The Giants were 9-7 last year and got hot and caught some breaks at the right time, same as there last Super Bowl. Let’s not put them up there with the Steelers of the 70′s, 49ers of the 80′s and Cowboys of the early 90′s just yet. Mara and the Giants suck.

And that could mean an arbitrator awarding the Cowboys extra cap or some crazy stuff

its not that they spent money, its HOW.

they tried to use a loophole to get an advantage in future years.

now the advantage was taken away
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And what about the dookie ball franchises like the Bucs and Bungles that spent below the salary cap floor to their advantage???????
No one seems to want to answer that……..

john mara doesnt need any back door shenanigans to beat the boys and skins…..seriously people, think about it. the giants are one of the few organizations in the game that all the others aspire to be, both from how they are run to the product on the field.

jones and snyder are both clowns…and the nfl has MANY lawyers.

You’re really naive enough to believe he acted completely by himself? Why aren’t any of the other owners coming to Jerry’s or Danny’s side? Silence from the rest of the league is deafening. And telling. Looks like the other 30 have gone “all in”. It’s up to Dallas and the Skins to decide whether it’s better to fight or fold. Having grown up in a family of lawyers, I can tell you very few lawsuits turn out exactly the way you want them to. Since Dallas and Washington have the two most valuable NFL teams, winning in court may undermine the League and decrease the overall value of their greatest asset. It’s not as black & white as you would like to imagine. Even if they are right, and we don’t have enough info to really know that, it could be a Pyrrhic victory.

At the least, Jones would have been forced to recuse himself (self interest, self-dealing) from any vote. Depending on the rules, it may have been entirely proper to keep him out of the loop.

Second, I really wish PFT would do a breakdown on the contracts in question. There’s a difference between the following-
a. One year contract in uncapped year for $25 million (entirely proper).
b. Paying off contracts in uncapped year to end them (maybe proper).
c. Frontloading contracts into uncapped year/restructuring contracts into uncapped year that continue on at much lower amounts into capped years (quite possibly improper as violating the new CBA).

That might shed light, instead of heat.