Sean Payton approached Bill Parcells about coaching Saints

AP

With just days to go before he’s suspended for a year from coaching the Saints, Sean Payton has approached a coaching legend about filling in for him: Bill Parcells.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is reporting that Payton approached Parcells about being the interim head coach of the Saints for the 2012 season, in a move that would give the Saints a proven, Super Bowl-winning coach to lead them this year — but also a move that would bring in an outsider, and a coach who has said he’s burned out and doesn’t want to return to the sidelines.

It’s also a move that would force the Saints to interview a minority coach to comply with the Rooney Rule: The Saints won’t be required to interview a minority if they stay within the organization, but they will be required to interview a minority if they go outside the organization.

Ultimately Saints owner Tom Benson would be the one with final say about who the coach is in New Orleans, but he may have asked Payton to help determine who will have the job during his absence. Prior to the report about Parcells coming out, the Saints were expected to stay in-house with offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr., offensive line coach Aaron Kromer or defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo.

But if the Saints believe they need a proven Super Bowl-winning head coach, the Big Tuna may be headed to the Big Easy.

102 responses to “Sean Payton approached Bill Parcells about coaching Saints

  1. So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

  2. Payton’s worst nightmare would be to make Spagnuolo the head coach and have him do well this year. Payton wants to make sure the deck is clear upon his return, hence Parcells.

    Depending on the Saints players suspensions coming this week, it may be a moot point.

  3. Sean Payton does realize that Bill is going to run this team his way and it’s going to be a lot less fun with him at the helm!

    The players might not like this when they get to practice.

  4. jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

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    Because he isn’t suspended yet! 4/1

  5. So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    —————————————————–

    His suspension starts in April.

  6. jenniferxxx says:Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM

    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?
    ________________________________

    Payton has until 4/1, then he has to get out….

  7. jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    ——————————————————-
    His suspension doesnt start until April 1st.

    All i can say that things just got interesting.

  8. jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    __
    The suspension doesn’t start until April 1st.

  9. eagleswin says:Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM

    Payton’s worst nightmare would be to make Spagnuolo the head coach and have him do well this year. Payton wants to make sure the deck is clear upon his return, hence Parcells.

    excellent point

  10. So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    ————————————————–

    Suspension begins on April 1st

  11. @jenniferxxx
    His suspension doesn’t start for a few more days, so for now he can do whatever he needs to do.

  12. Jennifer, if you would bother actually reading the article you would see why. I don’t like people like you.

  13. Tuna might not be able to resist the opportunity to add to his legacy(or repair it after Miami). Saints are still a SB contender. Would be a hell of a story. Seems the Saints would be circumventing the Payton penalty somewhat by bringing in Parcells. Wonder if Godell would stick his nose into this too.

  14. Will they be investing in a time machine so they can hire him from when he was actually a good coach?

  15. He isn’t suspended until April and today is March 26th. That’s how we do it in New Orleans! Benson cares about Payton’s opinion. We are a team and we stick together. Payton will always have input. Geaux Saints! Who Dat!!!!

  16. Parcells wont do it because it will reset the 5 year waiting period that is required to become a hall of famer. He is already over 70 years old, and I am sure he would like to be alive the day he is inducted, so I doubt he will do anything that might make that process take longer.

  17. jenniferxxx says: Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM

    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

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    If you would have bothered to read the 1st line “With just days to go before he’s suspended for a year from coaching the Saints”…….

    I hear Richie the K Kotite is available…..

  18. To jenifferxxx, Payton’s suspension starts April 1st & ends Feb 3rd after the Super Bowl. your hater attitude is alarming. Go cook something.

  19. And Tuna probably took that offer from the Saints and threw it down in front of some other team. That man needs to stay retired.

  20. I would venture to guess that even the most burned-out coach can find the fortitude to suck it up for one year to coach an offense led by Drew Brees (coming off a record-setting season, no less).

    He doesn’t seem like the best fit from an offensive theory standpoint, but he could be a good anchor for a locker room that might be reeling. And the latter might be even more important than the former.

  21. Why not let Brees fill in as a Player-Coach. Brees organized the players and practiced during the lock-out… he could do the same here.

  22. if it wasn’t a female that made that comment (jenniferxxx), everyone would make sarcastic remarks.

    but since she is, all the ‘nice posters’ to the rescue. hahaha

  23. “So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?”

    ======================

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Payton’s suspension begins on April 1st. Thus he’s free to act on behalf of the organization up until midnight on March 31st.

  24. What minority candidate wants to be interviewed just to check the box. That would be more of an insult for that cause! People make decisions daily to effectively run their business or football team…a persons race has no bearing on the success or failure its just another person who happens to be white or black.

  25. eagleswin says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    Payton’s worst nightmare would be to make Spagnuolo the head coach and have him do well this year.
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    Ya, because Spags did awesome in STL.

    Let Spags coach the D and Carmichael and Brees handle the offense. No need for Tuna.

  26. I would love to see Bill Parcells on the sideline again, this seems like a really unique and appropriate opportunity for that to happen.

  27. oh yea baby…this would be one great move by the Saints. Hey Tuna, just keep the seat warm for Sean Payton and win a Super Bowl in the process

    WHO DAT BABY

  28. Check the thread on Saturday. I called it. This would be perfect for Parcells ego, Payton, the Saints and their fans. It would be a quick repair to the franchise for 2012.

    And I’m a Buc fan.

  29. Jimmyhaffa said “Just one more example why the Rooney rule is useless. They are gonna pick who they wanna pick.”

    No, teams should have to hire someone they don’t want, based solely on skin color.

  30. The league needs to institute the “Rod Marinelli” rule. This rule will apply only to “special situations”, in which the head coach has been suspended for a year. This rule mandates that Rod Marinelli will become the head coach of a team found guilty of major violations regarding the “no bounty” rule.

    Get out the picks, shovels and axes New Orleans…Rod is coming to town!!

  31. jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    I don’t know if anyone has cleared this up yet, but I believe his suspension begins on 4/1. I didn’t see any reply posts.

  32. @jimmyhaffa

    Of course the Rooney rule is useless, but it is worse than that, it is insulting. How many times (and it IS how many, not if) has a black coach been brought in for an interview for a job he had 0 chance of landing? It’s idiotic.

    I could see if they made some rule that a certain percentage of your interviews had to be a minority, but if I want Bob, and Bob wants to be my coach, why should I have to interview Steve and Jim? I don’t want Steve or Jim, I want Bob. Justs because Steve and Jim are minorities, I should not be forced to interview them. It is meaningless, and degrading to the minority coaches that are going to these interviews

  33. @eagleswin says: Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM

    Payton’s worst nightmare would be to make Spagnuolo the head coach and have him do well this year. Payton wants to make sure the deck is clear upon his return, hence Parcells.
    —————-

    Payton/Loomis built this roster. I don’t think Payton feels threatened by Spags or anyone else brought in to coach for the season.

    How quickly we forget the Saints history prior to Payton. In almost 40 years the organization had 1 playoff win. In Payton’s 6 years the Saints have won 5 playoff games and won a SB. His job is safe.

  34. Get John Madden in there as DC, Don Shula OC. Hand out leather helmets – and change the field back from turf to mud and hard ground. Then exclusively run the double wing-T offense from 19-dikity-2.

    49ers should draft lamar miller – this is a fact.

  35. S. Payton: Hey Tuna, I messed up real bad and let a bounty program go on and on even after being warned over and over. So I got suspened for a year. Since, you’re a discipline guy, can you coach the guys for a season? I’ll give you front row Kenny Chesney tickets.

    Parcells:

  36. You can bet Benson will bring in the most absurd, unqualified minority candidate possible just to make a mockery of the Rooney rule he so despises. The football equivalent of Ray Nagin.

  37. At his age, I doubt Parcells would restart the HOF waiting clock (another 5 years) for this.

  38. Is it just me or is the Rooney rule being treated as just a formality and not being handled within the “spirit” of the rule? Seems disinqunious to go through the motions all the time with no real intent to give any minority a fair chance at the position. I quess we shouldn’t be surprised because the reason for this hiring in the first place is the direct result of failure to follow the rules.

  39. chawk12thman says: Mar 26, 2012 1:10 PM

    Is it just me or is the Rooney rule being treated as just a formality and not being handled within the “spirit” of the rule? Seems disinqunious to go through the motions all the time with no real intent to give any minority a fair chance at the position. I quess we shouldn’t be surprised because the reason for this hiring in the first place is the direct result of failure to follow the rules.

    ——–

    You are right in it is a formality. As someone stated above they are going to hire who they want to hire, regardless of the Rooney rule. I always felt it was disingenuous to waste a Minority coaches time if you had no intention to hire him. But it does get their name out there as a possible candidate for the next opening..

  40. I don’t think the Rooney Rule applies to the hiring of on interim head coach. Therefore the Saints won’t have to do a dog and pony show for a minority candidate.

    I think the Racist Rooney Rule has run its course.
    The rule should be modified. If you want to hire a certain coach the so be it, but the 2nd candidate you interview has to be a minority.

    Just my 2 cents which is worth nothing

  41. Mort went on to say the saints would then sign Richie Anderson, terry Glenn, Keyshawn Johnson and 7 other “parcells guys”

  42. I thought Payton was suspended? That should be no participating in Saints activities or decisions at all. Assisting with his own replacement or interviewing personnel and participating in decision should be a violation. Has the suspension not started yet or is he flaunting the NFL again?

  43. So they think it would be a good idea to go from the most gimmick philosophy minded coach in the league to Bill Parcells? Talk about a culture shock.

  44. Rooney Rule = Joke I own a billion dollar business and your going to tell me who to hire
    Are you kidding me
    How about a rule where at least 50% of a teams payroll should go to white players.

    Just pointing out how silly the rule is

    Tuna in NO no way
    No one knows who is going to get torched by the big man in NYC

  45. @bigbluefan. Its not telling you who to hire, just that you have to interview a person who looks like 75% of the players in the NFL. If not for that the Steelers would have never interviewed Tomlin. Who’d that work out? Also you guys with piling on a woman is pathetic. Jennifexxx comments make more sense than 90% of you basement bums.

  46. After looking at what he did with Dallas, I just don’t see Tuna being able to stomach a pass-first offense, even with all those pieces in place. He just doesn’t have the stomach to go four wide on a regular basis.

    The defense would be in really good shape, though, assuming they still have any players….

  47. @ jenniferxxx

    I believe the suspension does not start until April. So I guess he still has all rights as head coach. Don’t seem right does it.

  48. cowhawkfan says: Mar 26, 2012 1:34 PM

    I thought Payton was suspended? That should be no participating in Saints activities or decisions at all. Assisting with his own replacement or interviewing personnel and participating in decision should be a violation. Has the suspension not started yet or is he flaunting the NFL again?

    Here we go again…

  49. I agree with your point hystoracle. It is good to have minority coaches get to be known as potential candidates for a similar position in the future. I just wonder if there is a better way than this joke of a process.

  50. This would be a great move if it happens. Parcells would be perfectly content delegating the coaching duties to his staff while he focuses on getting all of the players on the same page. He would be one of the few people out there that could command the respect of this team after that debacle with the NFL. It is a veteran group that is built to win NOW. Who better to do this job on an interim basis than Parcells. Considering his age, no matter what happens, he would have no problem stepping away after this year. Good move Saints.

  51. Does anybody else find all this “Who Dat” garbage to be incredibly annoying? You NEVER heard a peep about Who Dat “nation” until 2009.

    Let Tuna go to NO, he did wonders in Miami.

  52. As a Panther fan, I would love for either Spags or Tuna to get this gig. Tuna hasn’t been a good coach since the mid-1990s, and we just saw how great a coach Spags was in St. Louis.

    The Saints implosion is well underway, and with the Bucs rebuilding with a clueless college coach, all that remains is finding some scandal or other-world incompetence in Atlanta and the NFC South is ours…………

  53. jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    _________

    He is not currently suspended… April 1st is his first day.

  54. If I was a Saints fan I would make a strong push for Tony Dungy, QB oriented coach, strong character, and he might jump at a fun chance like this. However I don’t think any decent coach will make a decision on this until the player punishments come down.

  55. As much disdain as I have for the Saints and their dirty dealings, it would be an interesting way to thumb your nose at the league to bring on someone of such huge stature as Parcells. It could energize an organization that is going to be pretty beaten down.

    But I think @portlax12 makes the key point. I doubt Parcells wants to restart his HOF timeline. And keeping a seat warm with a team likely decimated with suspensions, in a tough division, doesn’t sound like a good sell to any esteemed coach – not the what most would want as the final item on their resume.

    (I think back to Kerry Collins in Indy last year – who wants a black mark on their legacy with a thankless gig?)

    As for the Rooney rule, even if its primary benefit at this point is just getting black coaches more interviews with more teams, it’s a good thing. That’s face time and interview experience that wouldn’t be had otherwise.

    If there was a mandate that black coaches or GMs or owners had to be hired in a specific ratio, that would be bad. But since hiring isn’t mandated, it just opens up the process.

  56. jenniferxxx says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM
    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?

    =========================

    Your mom named you “jenniferxxx”? Crazy!

    Since none of these other d-bags bothered to inform you – Payton’s suspension does not begin until April 1, 2017. So, he’s got 5 years and 5 days to name a replacement – as long as he also names at least 17 additional minority replacements to satisfy various CBA minority hiring requirements.

    Didn’t I see you in a movie somewhere???…..

  57. skeebo80 says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:50 PM
    Scared of losing your job huh Sean

    – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Not scared just trying to do whats best for the team before he gets out. Not too hard to figure out num-nuts. I really think all other teams are still scared to death of the Saints. With the full coaching staff or not we will be a force to reckon with.

  58. In order to promote his conspiracy theory, the author of this article leaves out a HUGE part of this story:

    Payton has discussed the interim coaching job with his staff, and for various reasons THEY prefer not to be the interim coach.

    Other articles I have read say that offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. would prefer to just call plays and offensive line coach Aaron Kromer isn’t going to campaign for the job. Steve Spagnuolo is new to the staff and just taking over the defense and wants to focus on that.

    Whether those are their real reasons or whether they simply don’t want to remembered as the interim coach who went 6-10 because half their defense got suspended once Goodell announces player discipline, I don’t know.

    But to simply ignore the fact that the current staff was considered PRIOR to Payton talking to Parcells in order to construct a theory about Payton’s intentions is just wrong.

  59. jimmyhaffa says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:51 PM
    Just one more example why the Rooney rule is useless. They are gonna pick who they wanna pick.

    The Rooney Rule requires they interview at least one legitimate minority candidate. They don’t have to hire him, but they do have to interview him. Even tho not hired, it gives the minority candidate head coach interview experience. It is also introduces a legitimate minority candidate into the equation. Compare the number of minority head coaches now with 10 years ago. Pretty amazing, huh? Reason: Rooney Rule…. Give credit to it. No forced affirmative action required, just the interview has accomplished more in the NFL than many other “white-only” professions.

  60. lovetron says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:57 PM
    I would venture to guess that even the most burned-out coach can find the fortitude to suck it up for one year to coach an offense led by Drew Brees (coming off a record-setting season, no less).

    __
    Insert Troy Aikman for Drew Brees…and you get Barry Switzer winning a Super Bowl with the Cowboys.

  61. This is nothing more then Payton trying to assure he will maintain his job after his suspension. If Spags went 13-3 or got them to a Superbowl, you think they’d let him walk? Really?

    Not to mention Payton is a prick

  62. Sean Payton’s suspension was excessive in terms of what the NFL was trying to accomplish. The NFL brainpower wants to send a message to never to support, lie, and protect a cart for cash incentive. The only problem with SP’s suspension is it creates the perfect storm and adversity that the city and team thrive off of. 8 games this season and four next season is sending a message. Now, you have a clean slate for a legendary coach and mentor to come in and run the table all the way home. Stranger things have happended in New Orleans. NFL is messing with the wrong coach and the wrong 12th man. This is the dysfunction that an emotional New Orleans fan base needs leading up to hosting a super bowl in the home dome. If they are winning games and in the mix by week 10, watch out.

  63. whatsupbb415 says:
    Mar 26, 2012 12:46 PM
    Sean Payton does realize that Bill is going to run this team his way and it’s going to be a lot less fun with him at the helm!

    The players might not like this when they get to practice.

    __________________________________

    Parcells is Payton’s mentor. Parcells promoted Payton to Offensive Coordinator in Dallas. I’m sure Payton has a pretty good idea of how Parcells runs his teams….

  64. jenniferxxx says: Mar 26, 2012 12:45 PM

    So how does a guy who’s suspended … and who is not supposed to be having anything to do with the football operations of the Saints … how does he approach Bill Parcells about being the interim coach without violating the very nature of ‘suspension’?
    ====================================
    i find it hard for someone to ask that when everytime u posted on the subject of “bounty” chimed in with jokes about the saints. seems to me u only read headers in your thirst to be first. yes i root for the saints and still will- just be knowledgeable. with all ur comments it just took me aback @ u not knowing the timing of the suspension and what can be done in the interim.
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    jgedgar70 says: Mar 26, 2012 2:12 PM

    As a Panther fan, I would love for either Spags or Tuna to get this gig. Tuna hasn’t been a good coach since the mid-1990s, and we just saw how great a coach Spags was in St. Louis.

    The Saints implosion is well underway, and with the Bucs rebuilding with a clueless college coach, all that remains is finding some scandal or other-world incompetence in Atlanta and the NFC South is ours…………
    ===================================
    WOW thats alot of ifs
    ===================================

    southcakpanther says: Mar 26, 2012 2:10 PM

    Does anybody else find all this “Who Dat” garbage to be incredibly annoying? You NEVER heard a peep about Who Dat “nation” until 2009.
    ===================================

    what rock did u crawl from under in 2009

  65. I think it’s pretty impressive what the saints are doing. Yes everything that is going on is their fault. But considering the ish that is hitting the fan right now they are being great at being pro active. Loomis is being one of the most active GMs. Being aggressive with limited Cap space. I have no doubt that the Brees deal will get done.

    As for Big Tuna. Y not have your mentor come in and watch your team for a year. He just needs an athority figure there, someone with the same type of bravado. He knows that Carmichael will have the offense on check and Spags can focus on the D. Plus you have someone that is not a threat to keep the job once the suspension is over. Great job by SP.

    As for the Rooney rule. Hell I’m Hispanic interview me. I know I have no chance but I can say I was interviewed by the Saints. As for Tomlin I might be wrong but I believe he was an internal hire which means they didn’t have to interview a minority. So he is not an example of the Rooney rule working.

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