Beyond the ‘Skins giving up a little too much to get him, Luck will be a great addition.

In the discussion of the two, I think Luck’s assets get a little short-changed. He really seems to have a knack of reading the defense as the play unfolds that’s a notch above anyone that I’ve seen in the college game. He can make all of the throws and is sufficiently mobile to avoid the rush, even if he’s not RGIII. He provided what I consider the best moment in college football this year in the Southern Cal game. Right after he made a bone-headed throw with about 4 minutes to play that put his team behind, he willed his team down the field to tie and take the game to OT in what I think was the most impressive drive of the year. His poise stood out. That’s what I think will make him a great pro.

One thing that never seems to get mentioned is that I think the Stanford coach’s run first approach held his numbers back a bit. There are a lot of coaches that would have rode that horse until it dropped and thrown on most downs. Under someone else, he probably would have had more yards, TD’s and admittedly, more INT’s. I’m guessing that he could have had the best stats in CF. Like I said, this is not at all a putdown of RGIII because I think he has a chance to be special as well.

I ask myself this, if I close my eyes and see Luck as black and Griffin as white would my decision be the same…

The strange thing about this is all the reports we have recently heard about grade Griffin higher. That fact that RGIII came from nothing and Luck has had every opportunity afforded to him by way of his father (a former NFL QB and WVU Athletic Director) makes me think Griffin has a much higher ceiling where Luck is probably most ready to play as he has been groomed his entire life. I would make my pick based on which type of player I value more.

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This alone is a ridiculous statement. So you’re saying that if someone was raised in a privileged environment, they would not be as motivated to do great things in the NFL? Why don’t you ask Peyton Manning if this theory holds true. Last time I checked, he sure seemed to be a pretty motivated QB to me. You’re an idiot!!

The strange thing about this is all the reports we have recently heard about grade Griffin higher. That fact that RGIII came from nothing and Luck has had every opportunity afforded to him by way of his father (a former NFL QB and WVU Athletic Director) makes me think Griffin has a much higher ceiling where Luck is probably most ready to play as he has been groomed his entire life. I would make my pick based on which type of player I value more.

Luck is the safer pick. Think of the many other athletic QB’s who played in the shotgun offense (J. Russell, Vince Young, M. Vick, Josh Freeman, Tavaris Jackson, etc. etc.) and never really adjusted to the pro-set. I get it that RG3 can run like a deer, throw it a mile, etc. but playing under center and reading defenses has nothing to do with “athletic ability”.

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Now this deserves the race card. You forgot the white kids like Bradford, discount double check and Alex smith.

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Maybe it was Whiff for Griff?

They both look weird as crap. Goofy looking guys man, I don’t know which church you go too.

One such example:

The safest player in the 2009 draft was Wake Forest Linebacker Aaron Curry. He was considered a steal at #4 overall because he was the safest prospect. 2 years later, he was traded by the Seahawks for not being anything better than a backup with a high salary. The compensation was a 2012 7th and a 2013 conditional, which will never amount to anything close to the 4th overall pick.

And there are so many more. Safe prospects almost never become anything. I wouldn’t characterize Luck as “safe”. I’d characterize him as “special” and say that the unmeasurable tools are what separate Luck from RG3.

Thumbs up – Agree
Thumbs down – Denial

Tiebreaker: Luck looks like the person who sits next to you in church. Griffin is a black guy with dreadlocks.

Translation: Black people with dreadlocks cannot be churchgoers,ergo they must be evil.
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brenenostler says: Mar 27, 2012 11:32 PM

There’s many pocket passers like Luck in the Hall of Fame. But how many scramblers like Griffin are in the Hall of Fame?

Translation: Black QB’s don’t make it to the HOF.
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thejuddstir says: Mar 27, 2012 11:32 PM

Luck is the safer pick. Think of the many other athletic QB’s who played in the shotgun offense (J. Russell, Vince Young, M. Vick, Josh Freeman, Tavaris Jackson, etc. etc.) and never really adjusted to the pro-set. I get it that RG3 can run like a deer, throw it a mile, etc. but playing under center and reading defenses has nothing to do with “athletic ability”.

Translation:The aforementioned 5 black QB’s weren’t effective so black QB’s must not be able to read defenses or play under center.
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White QB’s drafted in the first 3 rounds 2002-2009 that look like churchgoers,are not HOFers, and were ineffective:Carr,Harrington,Ramsey,McCown,Palmer,Grossman,Boller,Simms,Losman,Schaub,Smith,Frye,Walter,Greene,Leinart,Cutler,Clemens,Whitehurst,Croyle,Quinn,Kolb,Beck,Stanton,Edwards,Ryan,Brohm,Henne,O’Connell,Stafford.

(Note:for those of you who will complain about my inclusion of Schaub,Ryan,and Stafford, none of those guys has won a playoff game in this time frame.Cutler has won 1, not exactly mindblowing.)