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Vikings wanted Pierre Garçon, but not for what Redskins paid

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The Minnesota Vikings wanted to sign free agent receiver Pierre Garçon two weeks ago — right up until they found out how much they’d have to pay to get him.

The Redskins were very aggressive in reeling in Garçon, signing him almost instantly after the free agency period started. Jeremy Fowler of the Pioneer Press reports that the Vikings acted aggressively in contacting Garçon, too, but they exited the Garçon sweepstakes just as quickly when they decided that the five-year, $42.5 million deal with $21.5 million guaranteed that Garçon got from the Redskins was too rich for their blood.

Minnesota thought that if they could team Garçon with receiver Percy Harvin and have them both catching passes from quarterback Christian Ponder, they’d be putting together one of the best young pass-catch combinations in football. But Minnesota wouldn’t pay Garçon the kind of money that Washington paid.

Instead, the Vikings turned their attention to tight end John Carlson, who signed a five-year, $25 million contract with $11 million guaranteed. And they’ll hope a talented young receiver can be theirs in the NFL draft.

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62 Responses to “Vikings wanted Pierre Garçon, but not for what Redskins paid”
  1. mnovis says: Mar 27, 2012 12:50 PM

    Per usual, Minny dropped the ball. Garcon and Harvin > Harvin and Carlson. Gotta pay to play.

  2. drama419 says: Mar 27, 2012 12:51 PM

    The Redskins are hilarious, they’ll pay any average player, all pro money. The Vikings were smart to back out at that price.

    Plus Garcon has had 1 very good year, and one decent yr. Not worth that kind of cash

  3. ponies92 says: Mar 27, 2012 12:51 PM

    Smart move by the Vikings. Garcon was not worth 21.5 guaranteed money.

  4. blaz0037 says: Mar 27, 2012 12:52 PM

    Blackmon. Book it.

  5. bigred12 says: Mar 27, 2012 12:52 PM

    vikings fans are frustrated with the lack of big-name signings, but that does sound like a lot of money. unfortunately there’s not much left for receivers on the market.

  6. channel124 says: Mar 27, 2012 12:53 PM

    That’s what they all say…”I didn’t like her anyway.”

  7. mavajo says: Mar 27, 2012 12:53 PM

    News – this is a foobar test

  8. steelerhypocrite says: Mar 27, 2012 12:54 PM

    Garçon is a perfect fit for Washington…he’ll drop every third pass and he won’t go over the middle. The ‘skins are pitiful at best…

  9. pastabelly says: Mar 27, 2012 12:54 PM

    Garcon is nothing special. Wallace and Lloyd were the best two on the market.

  10. skin94249 says: Mar 27, 2012 12:55 PM

    Just think what other team would have lost out if the Gustapo didn’t strip our 36 million !

  11. urfinished says: Mar 27, 2012 1:00 PM

    Five years for $21 mil makes him paid more than average receiver, but doesnt seem that crazy. He only gets the $45 if he is an all pro each year and if he plays at that level, he may deserve it. Is it a generous offer? Yea, but not as bad as people make it out to be. The total number looks flashier in the headlines so it is used more.

  12. skolvikes1 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:01 PM

    Smart move. Garçon would’ve been Bernard Berrian part two. Glad to see they learned from their mistakes.q

  13. Fantasy Noise says: Mar 27, 2012 1:01 PM

    Michael Floyd is better than Garcon already. Trade some later picks to get back into the 1st round. Kalil and Floyd would be some real nice players to come out of this draft with.

  14. killxswitch says: Mar 27, 2012 1:01 PM

    steelerhypocrite says: Mar 27, 2012 12:54 PM

    Garçon is a perfect fit for Washington…he’ll drop every third pass and he won’t go over the middle. The ‘skins are pitiful at best…
    ——————

    The drops comment is outdated. Garcon caught the ball very well last year. If he’d had a good QB throwing the ball he would’ve had a top 5 WR type of season.

    I have no idea where the “won’t go over the middle” nonsense came from. Garcon is a tough guy, he doesn’t play scared.

    The Skins got a good receiver. They paid too much, but he is going to be good if RG3 pans out. He is fast, physical, and proved last year that he has good hands/concentration.

  15. benacci says: Mar 27, 2012 1:02 PM

    skin94249 so you cry about the cap loss but you think its ok to over pay Garcon? Peyton made him look good, he was a Division III talent.

  16. purpleman527 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:03 PM

    While not spending the cash on Garcon was probably wise, does spending 25 Million on a FREAKIN tight end who was injured in 2011 make any sense?

    For Spielman’s next move, he’ll pass on the 3rd overall pick, and pay the 2nd round pick $25 million.

    Get a clue Spielman

  17. cpo187 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:03 PM

    I ♥ the use of the ç in Garçon. It’s obviously not Garcon.

  18. hendawg21 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:04 PM

    Let’s be real all these athletes in every sport make and or are paid too much money. Now whether the Redskins paid too much is yet to be determined…at least let the 2012 season play out before we pass judgement…

  19. dv5454 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:09 PM

    I’m a Packer fan and I would have been happy to see the Vikes put money into Garcon – I’m not saying the guy can’t play – only that the money they would have had to put forward to pay him should probably be put into other areas.

  20. hendawg21 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:10 PM

    pastabelly says:
    Mar 27, 2012 12:54 PM
    Garcon is nothing special. Wallace and Lloyd were the best two on the market.

    Well signing Wallace would have cost money and as RFA a pick or two…secondly didn’t the Redskins already have a roll in the Brandon LLoyd bed, I believe he was a bit immature back then…

  21. sadskinsfan89 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:12 PM

    I love how everyone knocks the redskins for every move the make. The chargers browns vikings and colts wer all bidding on garcon. the chargers offered him the exact same contract as the skins but garcon stated he wanted to play with rg3. so if the chargers got him would you be knocking them or saying great sign?

  22. thraiderskin says: Mar 27, 2012 1:16 PM

    Wait… so the Redskins are stupid for signing Garcon big time money (of course he has had big time games) but paying that much money for a second pass-catching tight end, coming off a season ending injury, is the genius decision?

  23. Steeley McBeam says: Mar 27, 2012 1:19 PM

    Vikings are just driving up the price of Blackmon with this report. Browns and Bucs dont need Khalil so why not make St Louis jump back up to 3 for Blackmon and still land the best LT?

  24. 7to10for6allday says: Mar 27, 2012 1:20 PM

    Redskins got fleeced! Gee….you think just maybe Peyton made him look good? He’s got upside but dam….21 mill guaranteed?? Really?

  25. jenniferxxx says: Mar 27, 2012 1:20 PM

    Over-paying for a free agent only makes sense if he’s the guy who can put you over the top. Someone who can take you to that next level.

    It’s hard to see Garcon doing that for the Skins.

  26. andyreiddoublecheeseburger says: Mar 27, 2012 1:23 PM

    Garçon was obviously overpaid by the Skins (what else is new). Maybe the Vikes can sign a receiver from a local community college badminton team.

  27. 7to10for6allday says: Mar 27, 2012 1:25 PM

    @skin94249

    You don’t sign a guy to 100 million 41 guaranteed and walk away from it likes it’s nothing…..I’m glad y’all got penalized. Serves you right for dumping huge contracts in the uncapped year….the funniest thing is that the redskins weren’t even competitive by not being hamstrung by those moronic contracts…..next up, garçons contract….some people never learn. Phillys gonna roll you again this year!

  28. mwcarolina says: Mar 27, 2012 1:25 PM

    Peyton made him look good, he was a Division III talent.
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    uh, where was Peyton last year?? Garcon had a good year last year and Peyton wasnt there. sorry, but Peyton may have helped find him, but he didnt make him look good when he played well with poor QBs last year, with that said, they did overpay him.

    as for the Vikings, why (if they did) did they want Garcon?? they can use that 3rd round pick on Blackmon and there, got your WR, unless they really like Kalil that much.

  29. mankato98 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:26 PM

    I like Garcon, but Washington overpaid. However, I would have preferred that the Vikes overpaid Garcon instead of overpaying Carlson. The Carlson signing feels like a weak copycat attempt to duplicate what New England has done with Gronkowski/Hernandez.

  30. mediasloppy says: Mar 27, 2012 1:28 PM

    That’s a load of money. I hate to be cynical, but if I was Wilf I’d spend enough to bring in new talent with room to grow. I’d be spending in the multiple millions again if I knew I had a Stadium. If that fails, I wouldn’t put another penny into the team and sell it to someone in LA. Minnesotans act like he’s Mr. Money-bags. I don’t think Wilf has made a profit since he bought the team…

  31. therealsmiley says: Mar 27, 2012 1:33 PM

    “Garçon was obviously overpaid by the Skins (what else is new).”

    This coming from an NFL guru….obviously. Hail!

  32. canonroad says: Mar 27, 2012 1:34 PM

    Would have been a nice addition- but I’m just fine with not over spending. Garcon is injury prone and like others have mentioned- would have Berrian v 2.0.

    What gets left off of these short-sighted articles is the fact that the Vikes will have major players due contract extensions next year. Harvin, Allen and Robison off the top of my head….

    Not to mention if Erin Henderson pans out like they hope- he’ll want a decent pay day as well.

    It’s ok to be smart with FA pursuits…especially when you have 10 draft picks in April.

  33. switch123 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:35 PM

    And thats why YOUR team always loses and Agents dont want there client to go there. they dont want to doe any money out.

    Same oh, line from the haters. Oh that was way to much money to pay. Well thats why your team sucks. Because they keep dropping the ball and make excuses (HOLGREN).

  34. barroomhero80 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:35 PM

    Glad they backed out. Too much for not enough

  35. bozosforall says: Mar 27, 2012 1:35 PM

    pastabelly says:
    Mar 27, 2012 12:54 PM
    Garcon is nothing special. Wallace and Lloyd were the best two on the market.

    __
    You are dreaming (or an idiot Pats fan) if you think that Brandon “One Good Season Only” Lloyd is anywhere near as good as Mike “Career Stud for All 60 Minutes” Wallace is.

  36. The Overtime Sports Talk Show says: Mar 27, 2012 1:36 PM

    Nobody remembers contracts when the season starts. Only Touchdowns, and wins..

  37. sadskinsfan89 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:40 PM

    @7to10for6allday. im glad you are so worried about where snyders money is going. The eagles won 2 more games than the skins did with arguably twice as much talent and a 100million $ Quarterback. why don’t you worry about fixing your own team before you fix someone elses. And I GUARANTEE the skins and boys get the ruling reversed in court. They broke zero rules. whet other team had the chance to do the exact same thing. Its ok I like when philly fans always talk about the skins.

  38. patsaintsbroncoscheat says: Mar 27, 2012 1:41 PM

    I love how the Skins try to buy the superbowl every year. Additionally every year they get more and more pathetic. It is getting to the point where we should consider asking the arena league if they will take one more team.

  39. k0mbucha says: Mar 27, 2012 1:42 PM

    There are alot of mis-informed posts about Garcon` numbers, last year he had the best numbers of his career and that was with horrible Curtis Painter and Collins throwing him the ball. He also in the top 5 YAC [Yards After Catch] percentages in the league .

    The Colts offered him a very similar contract plus there was a huge market for him, but only the brain dead couldn’t see that and choose to take the ignorant stance that the Redskins over spent!

  40. boon613 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:46 PM

    Garcon is the big winner here. Who wants two seasons of crappy QB’s throwing to them back-to-back? Christian Ponder is a backup at best.

  41. conormacleod says: Mar 27, 2012 1:46 PM

    16 Career TD’s! Never more than 6 in a year. Never more than 70 catches. All for the low, low price of $21.5 mil guaranteed! Wow.

  42. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Mar 27, 2012 1:50 PM

    If they pay that much for Garcon, they’re hamstrung next year when there might be a free agent they want to overpay for (like one of their own). They may be desperate, but they’re not stupid.

  43. jpiro says: Mar 27, 2012 1:51 PM

    Remember when the Skins overpaid Antwan Randel El? Or when they overpaid Albert Haynesworth?

    What about when they overpaid Adam Archuletta? No, don’t remember those?

    Don’t worry, just pay attention now and you can still talk about when they overpaid Pierre Garcon.

  44. musicman495 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:52 PM

    Gee, maybe the Vikings can get the league to penalize the Redskins for outbidding them, and award Garcon and the 2009 Super Bowl trophy to them.

  45. hendawg21 says: Mar 27, 2012 1:53 PM

    When you make the loot you can spend the loot…that in itself should explain why a Minnesota can play with a Washington or Dallas it’s just like the Yankees and Red Sox in baseball…if you can’t run with the big dawgs then stay on the porch!

  46. ninerdynasty says: Mar 27, 2012 1:53 PM

    In other News, The niners wanted to keep Josh Morgan, but not for what the Redskins Paid!

    See the pastern here ?

  47. theyknowtheyknowtheyknow says: Mar 27, 2012 1:54 PM

    Garçon was the 28th ranked WR last year…no where close to top 5.

    Jabar Gaffbey and Heyward-bey had similar years in production….would you have given them 21.5 m guaranteed?

  48. fwippel says: Mar 27, 2012 2:01 PM

    For once, I actually agree with Rick Spielman in not signing a player. Garcon is not worth what he’ll be getting from Washington, and the Vikings are better off not pursuing him.

    If you’re going to spend that kind of money on a free agent, it needs to be on someone who has consistently produced high-quality results. Garcon has not.

  49. khmer379 says: Mar 27, 2012 2:17 PM

    I have a feeling were gonna draft either Tommy streeter or the St Paul native Micheal Floyd both can strecth the field and are over 6’2 so it a good thing we didnt sign garcone either way am excited about the upcoming draft

  50. fancycash34 says: Mar 27, 2012 2:19 PM

    Glad to see us pass on Garcon for that kind of money, I can see where Spielman is going with the signing of Carlson.

    Rudolph/Carlson = Gronk/Hernandez
    Percy = Welker
    AP > whoever

    Draft Kalil to protect Ponders blindside and give him some extra time. Our Offense will still be based around AP but only time will tell how he’ll recover from his ACL.

    Rudolph and Carlson aren’t on the same level as a Gronk and Hernadez but I can see the Vikes running a similar style offense with these two huge pass catching TE’s. Personally I’d rather have Percy over Welker so I like that. Of course Ponder is no where near Brady but its at least something to try and mimick. Why not try it? It seems to work in NE and the core Vikings are all young. It may take a year or two but I can see it happening down the road.

  51. somatg3 says: Mar 27, 2012 2:28 PM

    garcon is the only ufa i was hoping the vikes would sign so its at least comforting knowing spielman/vikes are willing to go after guys but not overspend. carlson was a good signing and signing henderson, schwartz, bwoman, guion, evans and aromashadu were all solid moves. draft kalil and pick up at least 2 wr’s and 2 db’s in the first 4 rounds with our 6 picks!

  52. marksp18 says: Mar 27, 2012 2:36 PM

    Interesting that none of my fellow Vikings fans are suspicious about the timing of this news. The team has not done anything to excite the fan base and people are asking questions about their actual plan.

    Obviously, the majority of fans are upset about the lack of even having one top free agent make a visit. So the team gets this story out through “people in the know” about them willing to get Garcon but only at their price.

    I do not know anything but I ain’t buying this story at all. I think it is a PR move by the team to try and appease the fans. In other words, I am throwing the BS flag. Garcon was not the only player out there.

    The Vikings would not pay to get a young experienced pretty good WR. Well, they will get what they are paying for now.

    How ironic is it that this same front office (minus Childress) decided to draft Jaymar Johnson in the 6th round of the 2008 draft instead of Garcon?

    Johnson had 88 catches for 1425 yards and 10 TDs at Jackson State. Garcon had 175 catches for 2972 yards and 41 TDs at Mount Union.

    Maybe if the front office would stop trying to be diamonds in the rough type drafters and just be solid drafters they would not be in this position in the first place.

  53. smakhhm says: Mar 27, 2012 2:49 PM

    patsaintsbroncoscheat says:
    Mar 27, 2012 1:41 PM
    I love how the Skins try to buy the superbowl every year. Additionally every year they get more and more pathetic. It is getting to the point where we should consider asking the arena league if they will take one more team.

    Don’t you have some Quarterback to injure somewhere Saints fan? People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

  54. tarken10 says: Mar 27, 2012 3:21 PM

    The Vikings learned their lesson by overpaying Berrian. Garcon is just not worth what the Redskins are now paying him.

    Smart move to back out.

  55. footballfanman says: Mar 27, 2012 4:35 PM

    theyknowtheyknowtheyknow said:
    Garçon was the 28th ranked WR last year…no where close to top 5.

    Jabar Gaffbey and Heyward-bey had similar years in production….would you have given them 21.5 m guaranteed?
    ____________________________________

    It’s how Garcon got those numbers though, he was top 5 in YAC which means he got a lot of his yards after contact, something Washington desperately needed in a WR.

  56. k0mbucha says: Mar 27, 2012 5:09 PM

    footballfanman says: Mar 27, 2012 4:35 PM

    theyknowtheyknowtheyknow said:
    Garçon was the 28th ranked WR last year…no where close to top 5.

    Jabar Gaffbey and Heyward-bey had similar years in production….would you have given them 21.5 m guaranteed?
    ____________________________________

    It’s how Garcon got those numbers though, he was top 5 in YAC which means he got a lot of his yards after contact, something Washington desperately needed in a WR.

    ————————————————-

    Thank you footballfanman , it’s obvious he missed that I mentioned YAC. All Redskins had zero YAC and zero td catches outside of the redzone last season which is why the offense constantly stalled, and difficulty putting up points.

    Basically Garcon` contract is only $13.1 million in fully guaranteed money, via the $11 million signing bonus he received and only $2.1mil base for the 2012 season. So for those that refused to actyally take the time to read the actuall contract breakdown and think this is the same ole Vinny Cerrato Redskins you’re just simply out of touch…lol

  57. bagadeez04 says: Mar 27, 2012 5:21 PM

    Typical Redskins…wayyyyyyyyyyyyy overpaying for a moderately talented player.

    Only a couple teams in the league that would give a guy like Garcon that kind of money…and I think the Raiders are under new leadership so make that one team.

  58. youallrfools says: Mar 27, 2012 7:21 PM

    Fantasy Noise says:Mar 27, 2012 1:01 PM

    Michael Floyd is better than Garcon already. Trade some later picks to get back into the 1st round. Kalil and Floyd would be some real nice players to come out of this draft with.
    ——————————————————–
    I could hope for nothing more. It’s too bad that the Vikings seem smitten with the idea of trading back, not up.

    I would rather take a shot on Floyd then soooo much risk on Blackmon. Kalil is a major position of need and lowest risk. If Blackmon is a bust, the draft is basically a bust (see Lions), but if we trade a bit to move on Floyd all he has to do is be serviceable and we can justify it.

  59. gb4mn0 says: Mar 27, 2012 7:22 PM

    thraiderskin says:
    Mar 27, 2012 1:16 PM
    Wait… so the Redskins are stupid for signing Garcon big time money (of course he has had big time games) but paying that much money for a second pass-catching tight end, coming off a season ending injury, is the genius decision?

    ——————————————

    Obviously! That’s why they have so many Lombardi’s in MN…………..hahahahahaha!

  60. brobokil says: Mar 27, 2012 7:51 PM

    Everyone is hating on this Carlson move. Anyone whose had him over the last couple of years in fantasy would know he was THE best scoring tight end until hurt. He was cheaper than Shank, and the Vikings offense FEATURES multiple tight ends. Our offense is designed to be short concervative passing. Carlson makes as much sense for the Vikings as any other position, and I can’t wait to see him play.

    Also, the Redskins have created their own image as overspenders on underachievers for at least a few years now. Need I mention Albert Hayneworth again? The skins do not know how to build a team, they just keep overpaying for busts every year.

    Spielman is finally rebuilding the Vikings and putting them back on the UPswing (every team cycles from good to bad over and over, it’s how football works).

    If you don’t agree with Spielman, you basically don’t know what you’re talking about.

  61. brobokil says: Mar 27, 2012 7:58 PM

    Also, forgot to mention how vulnerable Pierre Garcon has been to injury, and has never been a star reciever. You don’t pay star reciever money to a guy who when he isn’t hurt only performs at average. Carlson was 5 mil a year. Pretty standard.

  62. randomjim says: Mar 27, 2012 10:11 PM

    Nobody on here mentioned how quick he signed with Wash. That was pretty quick work, no tampering here was there?????

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