@Zinn22: Actually, no, as their negotiations were done in violation of the rules and of the law. The NFLPA can bounce the individuals out and pursue the case. Hell, even if they couldn’t, a group of players could file suit against the NFL *and* the NFLPA for collusion.

@billinlouisiana: Yes, he was revoted before much of the implications were clear and while all of the information still has not come out. If further information shows that he, indeed, did screw over the players in an attempt to save his job, he’ll get ejected.

Wait, never mind…..on both points.

Thank you!!! This site is driving me crazy about this. It has nothing to do with the cowboys and redskins spent lots of money its that they manipulated contracts so they could take the hits from them in the uncapped year. Thats why they got penalized yet pro football talk insists on pretending that they are being penalized for handing out big contracts. And how do you know that wasn’t what happened? Cowboys and Redskins had to re-work zero contracts and cut zero players to be under the cap when it was reinstated.

But the NFLPA says a spike is coming and they’d be just as aware of whatever negotiations were done. So…if they did rob Peter to pay Paul, then they’re telling a lie that will just be discovered within a year?

Doesn’t really matter, does it? Not to Mawae, and DeMaurice anyway. They had their money grab, and “negotiations.” Yeah, let’s keep letting unions do their thing here. Maybe we can run the NFL into the ground.

Cooooooooooool![/sarcasm]

The players should get something in return for giving up their right to recover for the owners collusion, which seems to be a pretty strong case with the NFL sending out at least letters to teams instructing them not to overspend. $4 Million seems like a pretty small amount for giving up that right. But then again Smith needed that increase this year to keep his job so maybe that is why they gave up so much for so little.

The problem is that those two teams paid player salaries in 2010 that would not have been earned UNTIL 2011, 2012, 2013 etc.

They KNEW years after 2010 would be capped so they deliberatly tried to give themselves a cap advantage in those years by paying bills early.

Nothing to do with collusion. If the teams had decided to pay their players $10m each for 2010 ($530m in total for the year), NOBODY, NOBODY, NOBODY would have had any issue.

The problem is that the contracts paid big salaries in 2010 and tiny salaries in following years. Totally unrepresentively tiny salaries.

Do you get it yet PFT?????????

NO COLLUSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is some logic.

The more I hear, the more likely I think it is that DeMaurice will be out on his ass and the NFL will get hit with a collusion suit.

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He was just revoted in as the executive director of the NFLPA in a unanimous vote so I doubt he gets thrown out any time soon.

But the NFLPA says a spike is coming and they’d be just as aware of whatever negotiations were done. So…if they did rob Peter to pay Paul, then they’re telling a lie that will just be discovered within a year?