Comments on: Horse collar exception for quarterbacks in pocket remains http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 03:18:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: 4512dawg4512 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1686370 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:26:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1686370 Horse collar tackles are very dangerous and they should be illegal all across the board

]]> By: zillabeast http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1686004 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:09:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1686004 Justin Smith’s pure awesomeness saved this rule from the banhammer.

]]> By: errybodybabydaddy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685897 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:34:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685897 I wouldn’t mind roethlisberger getting horse collared every snap.

]]> By: holdthemayo123 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685882 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:25:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685882 Of course it shouldn’t apply in the pocket – the reason it exists is because you can rip someone’s legs off as they are RUNNING. Just because some moron announcer doesn’t get it doesn’t mean the rule should be changed.

]]> By: eaglesnoles05 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685839 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:01:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685839 LOL, ravensgunnerz- that will SERIOUSLY reduce the available player pool. I may actually have a chance to get in the league at that point!

]]> By: sportmentary http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685829 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:57:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685829 I don’t understand how this couldn’t pass. the league is supposedly trying to protect players. So you can’t tackle any other player on the field in this manner but you can horsecollar tackle a QB who is in the pocket? That’s stupid!

]]> By: kevpft http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685791 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:40:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685791 Looks like I’m in the minority, but I think this type of tackle shouldn’t be allowed at all, under any circumstances.

And don’t give me the defense of the NFL being made “soft” by such rules. There’s nothing tougher, stronger, and manlier then having to tackle someone by wrapping them up and bringing them down. All these advocates of “manly” football seem to want is protection for the cheapest and easiest forms of tackles, the kinds that take the least work and create the least risk for the defender.

You want “manly” football? Then take on the challenge of a real tackle, don’t hide behind cheap shots as manliness.

]]> By: jiggy3198 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685784 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:37:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685784 It’s not a rule until Tom Brady days its a rule

]]> By: rocketcrab http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685761 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:26:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685761 albanyhawker says:
Mar 28, 2012 12:29 PM
The horsecollar penalty should be completely abolished. It doesn’t stop guys from doing it, and only one guy has ever been hurt by it, TO.

Nope. Several years ago I saw a Ravens RB by the name of Musa Smith suffer a very nasty leg injury due to a horse collar tackle.

]]> By: theadmiral22 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685747 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:21:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685747 I agree that the horse collar shouldn’t be enforced within the pocket. The danger is magnified while sprinting forward and coming to a sudden stop with that much force being pulled down and backwards on your legs.

@albankyhawker

It wasn’t just TO who got horse collared….Williams basically ended Musa Smith’s (RB Ravens) career with a horse collar.

]]> By: rockthered1286 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685743 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:19:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685743 I totally agree with @pkpittny. The fact of the matter is, the QB is either stationary or barely has his feet going if he’s still in the pocket. There is little or no resistance, unlike a player running downfield at full speed, therefore the risk of injury is minimal. To say ‘what about their legs being at risk for being pulled down from behind’ is no different than any other hit in the pocket putting a QB at risk. They’re walking a fine line as it is, and they are doing their best to keep it safe without taking Football out of the NFL.

]]> By: nflfollower http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685727 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:15:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685727 Thank goodness they didn’t. Can’t believe the NFL got it right on this one. About time they showed some common sense and restraint when it comes to these “protection” rules.

]]> By: cooklynn17 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685680 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:58:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685680 Stupid…you should be able to slap the quarterback any way you see fit, Lawrence Taylor style.

Just put a skirt on the qb already and get it over with.

SFL – Soft Football League.

]]> By: LoCoSu@%s http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685675 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:57:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685675 This is actually one I agree with.
Defensive linemen are usually fighting off the OL in fron of them before they can get to the QB.
Case in point – Justin Smith getting a hold of Brees late in the game, that forced an incompletion.

If the horse collar rule would have been in place – that was a penalty.
Good job on this one NFL

]]> By: melikefootball http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685647 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:50:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685647 Where does the league get injury comes into play..outside the pocket you can get injuried but not in the pocket.

]]> By: thankheavenfornumberseven http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685643 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:50:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685643 This was the one rule change I didn’t mind not passing. It’s hard enough to get a sack without worrying about how you’re tackling the guy.

]]> By: mynameisusername http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685621 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:44:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685621 NFL Competition Committee chairman Rich McKay said after the announcement that they “didn’t see the injury risk”

Till Brady or Manning or the new Brady Rodgers get hurt then its a season ban and 4 mill fine

]]> By: erod22 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685609 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:40:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685609 Actually, several players have had their legs broken by horse collars, not just TO.

]]> By: pkpittny http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685586 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:36:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685586 Horse collar tackles are only dangerous if you are running forward, in which case the opposing force (horse collar tackle) puts a bunch of stress on a player’s joints/bones/ligaments.

When you’re standing relatively still horse collars are not dangerous at all.

]]> By: rmzthefirst http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685585 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:36:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685585 Nice, rack up the sacks, I’d be looking for that collar…! Wossie QB’s…

]]> By: h4wksf4n http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685575 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:34:43 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685575 Would James harrison be able to follow this rule if implemented?

Pretty soon there will be a 2-ft bubble rule for qb’s!

]]> By: myspaceyourface http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685566 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:33:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685566 They “didn’t see the injury risk” until someone is injured they won’t see the injury risks.

Wasn’t the NFL behind the curve on concussions and the original horse collar style tackles.

]]> By: TaiwanMike http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685556 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:31:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685556 I find it interesting that a tackling method that was declared illegal because of repeated injuries is only legal on quarterbacks, the position the NFL is most out to protect.

]]> By: RavenzGunnerz http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685548 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:29:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685548 One of these days NFL players will need 1 year of law school before they enter the draft.

]]> By: albanyhawker http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/horse-collar-exception-for-quarterbacks-in-pocket-remains/#comment-1685547 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:29:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=441619#comment-1685547 The horsecollar penalty should be completely abolished. It doesn’t stop guys from doing it, and only one guy has ever been hurt by it, TO.

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