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After Pro Day, no consensus on Trent Richardson’s forty time

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The Alabama Crimson Tide held its “Pro Day II” on Thursday morning, and running back Trent Richardson was the main attraction. Richardson has been recovering from a January knee scope.

We know the projected top-10 pick ran the forty-yard dash twice.

But we don’t really know what his forty time was.

It was repeatedly said on SportsCenter Thursday that Richardson registered “a 4.4 forty.” NFL Network’s Bucky Brooks clocked Richardson “in the 4.45 to 4.49 range.” The times relayed by ESPN3’s live broadcast were 4.58 and 4.58, “unofficially.” In his Pro Day review, SI.com draft analyst Tony Pauline wrote that Richardson “failed to run an elite 40 time.”

While there was no consensus on Richardson’s forty time, he did 25 reps of 225 pounds on the bench and told ESPN’s Merril Hoge following the workout that he was “mad” he didn’t run a 4.3.

Working in Richardson’s favor is the fact that (most) teams don’t make draft choices based strictly on forty times. They watch the game tape, and Richardson’s is very, very good.

Richardson has pre-draft private workouts set up with the Cleveland Browns and Tampa Bay Bucs. He is considered likely to be drafted either by the Browns at No. 4 or Bucs at No. 5.

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72 Responses to “After Pro Day, no consensus on Trent Richardson’s forty time”
  1. cletusvandam says: Mar 29, 2012 2:19 PM

    Does everyone at these things just use the stopwatch on their iphones?
    How can everyone have different results?

  2. fishfiletkray says: Mar 29, 2012 2:19 PM

    Who cares! This guy is a complete back. He’ll be a perennial pro bowler.

  3. kozmo50 says: Mar 29, 2012 2:19 PM

    DON’T DO IT CLEVELAND!!!!

  4. cletusvandam says: Mar 29, 2012 2:20 PM

    Also, Donnie Avery is not impressed.

  5. 84sgl says: Mar 29, 2012 2:21 PM

    Who cares!?!? Did you watch a lick of SEC football the last couple of years? Richardson is the best running back in the draft based on tape alone. So what if he does run a 4.58? All that means is he won’t rack up as many home runs. Ask Michael Turner how that’s working out for him…

  6. vipertx says: Mar 29, 2012 2:54 PM

    I think he would look great in a browns uniform, I love they way the dude runs, he is a bruiser shifty and explosive back, a great fit for cleveland, please don’t screw this up!!! GO BROWNS!!!!!

  7. cbusbrownie says: Mar 29, 2012 2:54 PM

    kozmo50 must live in Tampa.
    About time time we get our RB. T.R. will be our work horse, TD machine. Now, who at 22, hum???
    GO BROWNS!

  8. ihadtodoit says: Mar 29, 2012 2:54 PM

    Draft him Cleveland. So I wont turn the channel when you guys are on offense.

  9. andyreidisfat says: Mar 29, 2012 2:55 PM

    I don’t care what he runs or how good he might be, drafting a running back in the top 10 is silly. It’s to easy to find good players in later rounds at rb.

    Production wise is their really going to be a great deal of difference between Richardson or guys like McCoy ( second ) or foster (undrafted)

  10. firstandonlywarning says: Mar 29, 2012 2:56 PM

    Only complete idiots care about Richardson’s 40 time.

    Either you were interested in a excellent RB or you weren’t, if his 40 time is the deciding factor you’re a fool and a terrible GM

  11. totallyuselessme says: Mar 29, 2012 3:00 PM

    Cleveland, what you need is Blackmon. Good as Richardson is, you can still get an average-to-very-good RB these days in the late rounds of the draft. It’s a pretty common occurrence.

    You can’t get another Blackmon back there. Not gonna happen.

  12. profootballwalk says: Mar 29, 2012 3:02 PM

    Total waste of the top five pick. Ingram was a first round pick last year, played for a high-powered offense, and no one noticed him. Richardson is better, but how much better? Ingram should have gone in the mid-second round. Richardson belongs in the 20s. Top five should be reserved for Eric Dickerson/Walter Payton quality RBs.

  13. KIR says: Mar 29, 2012 3:02 PM

    I can name aprox 18 running backs if their was a re-draft would be selected in the 1st. round by NFL general managers. Fact! Just because running backs have not been taken high in the draft does not mean they SHOULDN’T have been taken high in the draft nor is that an accurate measure of their value to their teams. The only thing that shows is poor scouting by the teams.

  14. doggpound4ever says: Mar 29, 2012 3:03 PM

    Get em Brownies. I would buy his jersey. Go Browns

  15. nobisoreal says: Mar 29, 2012 3:08 PM

    Hey the Raiders have a GM now, so I think we can finally say that NO teams draft a player solely based on their 40 time.

  16. kylemc1986 says: Mar 29, 2012 3:11 PM

    Cleveland browns where running backs go to die

  17. romoscollarbone says: Mar 29, 2012 3:14 PM

    Ask DBs who can’t catch him, what his 40 is. Football speed when the Willie Beamon invisible juice is flowing, is a lot different, than running for a stopwatch.

  18. yojoemama says: Mar 29, 2012 3:16 PM

    Browns can draft Luck, RG3, Blackmon, Richardson AND Claiborne and they’ll still stink. There’s a reason why Cleveland is a perennial loser despite having a top 5 pick every year.

  19. dweth says: Mar 29, 2012 3:19 PM

    Brownies, please don’t pick him, a RB should be the last thing on the Browns wish list.
    RB Peterson, Vikings = record of 3 – 13
    RB Steven Jackson, Rams = record of 2 – 14
    RB CJ Spiller, Bills = record of 6 – 9

    RB Ryan Grant, Packers undrafted FA = record 15 – 1
    RB Green-Ellis, Pats undrafted FA = record 13 -3
    RB Arian Foster, Texans undrafted FA = record 10 – 6

    corner and a receiver in the first round!

  20. fafaflunky says: Mar 29, 2012 3:22 PM

    the cleveland clowns will draft tannehill,and watch trent go off hook with some other team..pretty much like every other fa they wanted and failed to get..

  21. 4thquartermagic says: Mar 29, 2012 3:36 PM

    Billion dollar business and they can’t implement some laser beam finish line or something to pinpoint an “official” 40 time.

    Come on GODell invest in some R&D with all that fine money you be collecting.

  22. snowpea84 says: Mar 29, 2012 3:38 PM

    If I were a player would run a bit slower jsut so I wouldn’t hve to end up a Raider.

  23. mungman69 says: Mar 29, 2012 3:39 PM

    The Eagles trade up, up, up. They will end up picking 4th or 5th.

  24. 808raiderinparadise says: Mar 29, 2012 3:39 PM

    Larry Fitz was like a 4.5 to 4.6 time …….

    I would compare his skillset completely to Michael Floyd this year.

  25. rayguyreturns says: Mar 29, 2012 3:41 PM

    4.35 or 4.55 wouldn’t matter to me with this guy. Put a helmet on him and let him play. The guy is a FOOTBALL player.

  26. rabbdogg says: Mar 29, 2012 3:42 PM

    um..he is way faster than a 4.5..he just had knee surgery two months ago and he still go a 4.4/4.5 think about when hes 100%

  27. 808raiderinparadise says: Mar 29, 2012 3:48 PM

    totallyuselessme says:
    Mar 29, 2012 3:00 PM
    Cleveland, what you need is Blackmon. Good as Richardson is, you can still get an average-to-very-good RB these days in the late rounds of the draft. It’s a pretty common occurrence.

    You can’t get another Blackmon back there. Not gonna happen.

    ———————-

    Completely disagree, Blackmon is a BUST … Big-12 had many defenses in the bottom on the country, he ran lose routes in a spread offense with rare double coverage. He is not a No.1 WR, not so much a possesion WR, and a WR will not win you games …. this guy is now way an AJ Green …. Cleveland should take Richardson imo … a RB will get touches to change a game …. Blackmon might get 4-5 passes thrown his way a whole game …. that will not change your offense …. grab Richardson and then hunt for Floyd or another WR later.

  28. beavertonsteve says: Mar 29, 2012 3:55 PM

    Sounds like most of the scouts using the reliable “alligator” timing system

  29. rickywatts80 says: Mar 29, 2012 3:57 PM

    Crazy to draft this guy early. Tough runner with some speed and vision, but NOT a special talent. Look at tapes of Richardson and AP or McFadden back to back. NO comparison… big difference in speed and suddenness.

  30. KIR says: Mar 29, 2012 3:59 PM

    @dweth says:

    Frank Gore 13 3
    Michael Turner 10 6
    Ray Rice 12 4

    Do they count? Of course not. Who was in the NFL Championship game? Ray Rice & Frank Gore. Does that count? Of course not.

  31. kimtrouard says: Mar 29, 2012 3:59 PM

    No matter what Trent’s 40 time is, the vi-queens still have no superbowl.

  32. raider17 says: Mar 29, 2012 4:02 PM

    To all you dip5hits with the Raider speed jokes; please realize that the great Mr. Davis has passed on, and so has that philosophy. See you at the top!

    Al Davis Forever!!!
    Just Win Baby!!!

  33. jacktheripper559 says: Mar 29, 2012 4:08 PM

    Trent Richardson’s 40 time is making headlines because……? Uh, unless he’s faster than Usain Bolt then who cares, he’s obviously fast enough….Not a good story.

  34. radrntn says: Mar 29, 2012 4:17 PM

    no doubt the guys a tremedous talent, but really no need to take a rb in the top half of the first rd in todays nfl

  35. ruggyup says: Mar 29, 2012 4:18 PM

    Needed. An opinion from Urban Meyer, now a qualified spokesman for things NFL.

  36. mc9399 says: Mar 29, 2012 4:21 PM

    the browns should draft blackmon, then wilson, and then weeden in the second lol

  37. seeschool says: Mar 29, 2012 4:25 PM

    Who cares about 40 times for running backs.

    What we should care about is the tape. The tape says that Trent Richardson’s backup outperformed him whenever he was in the game. Eddie Lacy was a more decisive runner, while Richardson consistently showed hesitation as the LOS. I’m not sure if that’s because of a lack of run instincts or a lack of initial quickness, but either way he in my opinion isn’t the best back in this draft.

    Once he gets some steam he is very hard to bring down, but go watch the LSU game tape and you’ll see a power back dancing behind the LOS.

  38. whatnojets says: Mar 29, 2012 4:33 PM

    What???? No mention of Tebow??? Surely there has to be someone kind of a connection here!!

  39. muckfodell says: Mar 29, 2012 4:59 PM

    “DON’T DO IT CLEVELAND!!!!”

    Signed,

    A Buccaneers fan.

  40. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Mar 29, 2012 5:04 PM

    It’s been so long since a new article. I feel like i’m in a desert and i’ve got crazy bad dry mouth, while the only thing around is an RC cola vending machine.

  41. steeelfann says: Mar 29, 2012 5:06 PM

    In all honesty, I have watched many games of Richardson. He is a beast. But it would not surprise one iota if he ran a 4.58. He is decently fast, but he is no burner. Beastly though, strong like bull.

  42. davidtmp says: Mar 29, 2012 5:06 PM

    Cleveland, keep your mits off this guy. I’m looking for Richardson or Blackmon to drop to me in my fantasy league, and I’d rather not have a Browns player as they won’t get the production with their weak armed QB.

  43. jerryjoneslikespurpledrank says: Mar 29, 2012 5:09 PM

    Who cares!

  44. arnoldwadsworth says: Mar 29, 2012 5:14 PM

    I think the Bucs should take him. Gives them a 1, 2 punch. Plus with injuries you never know.

  45. grninerfan says: Mar 29, 2012 5:15 PM

    Go get him Cleveland. I know he’ll be gone by pick # 30.

  46. dweth says: Mar 29, 2012 5:15 PM

    KIR says: Mar 29, 2012 3:59 PM

    Frank Gore 13 3
    Michael Turner 10 6
    Ray Rice 12 4

    Do they count? Of course not. Who was in the NFL Championship game? Ray Rice & Frank Gore. Does that count? Of course not.

    great backs! None of which were drafted in top 10.
    Ray Rice – drafted 55th in 2nd round
    Michael Turner drafted 5th round
    Frank Gore – 3rd round

  47. nflfollower says: Mar 29, 2012 5:19 PM

    Totallyuselessme—–can’t get a blackmon after round one? Ok, but victor Cruz was undrafted. So I guess there is no talented WR’s in the later rounds?

  48. bbk1000 says: Mar 29, 2012 5:30 PM

    The forty times are stupid unless you run an 8….

  49. KIR says: Mar 29, 2012 5:36 PM

    @dweth

    Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round. Does that mean he should have been drafted in the six round?

  50. cotts1 says: Mar 29, 2012 5:43 PM

    Why no mention of Mark Barron also working out? I would like to know how he looked.

    Thanks

  51. pacodawg says: Mar 29, 2012 6:19 PM

    My fiend runs a 4.4 forty he is on the high school track team, I think he can play in the nfl

  52. phillybirds says: Mar 29, 2012 6:21 PM

    browns are trading this pick.

  53. dawglbfan says: Mar 29, 2012 6:25 PM

    As a Browns fan I think we should draft TR… I know, I know all I hear is “Its a passing league” but tell that to Ray Rice who was a botched kick away from the super bowl.

  54. muckfodell says: Mar 29, 2012 6:43 PM

    “the cleveland clowns will draft tannehill,and watch trent go off hook with some other team..pretty much like every other fa they wanted and failed to get..”

    Fafaflunky.

    Is that your job description?

    Probably should be…

  55. voiceofsweetness says: Mar 29, 2012 6:44 PM

    ” Does everyone at these things just use the stopwatch on their iphones? How can everyone have different results? ”
    Can’t think of too many GM’s, scouts, or coaches that have the speed to start their time with him on the same line and run with him to stop it exactly on the other line lol Maybe Parcells.

  56. ubb44 says: Mar 29, 2012 6:50 PM

    RB Peterson, Vikings = record of 3 – 13–Not because of AD

    RB Steven Jackson, Rams = record of 2 – 14—Not because of Jackson

    RB CJ Spiller, Bills = record of 6 – 9–Please even mentioning him with the likes of the previous two is stupid.

    RB Ryan Grant, Packers undrafted FA = record 15 – 1–Not because of the RB

    RB Green-Ellis, Pats undrafted FA = record 13 -3–Not because of the RB

    RB Arian Foster, Texans undrafted FA = record 10 – 6–an exception not the rule.

  57. dawglbfan says: Mar 29, 2012 7:14 PM

    These are a scheme running backs, Richardson is a complete back: Running, Catching and Blocking that is why he will be a top ten pick

  58. stayclassyasheville says: Mar 29, 2012 7:16 PM

    Could Vikes get Bucs to trade picks and leapfrog Browns? Move back and pick up a late rnd. pick possibly.

  59. vondoom92 says: Mar 29, 2012 7:37 PM

    As a Browns fan you have to be thinking either;

    Blackmon and Martin

    or

    Richardson and Hill/Wright

    with the first round. If it were me i would pick Blackmon/Martin

  60. voiceofsweetness says: Mar 29, 2012 7:50 PM

    “RB Peterson, Vikings = record of 3 – 13–Not because of AD”
    Actually in this case it is partly because the running back. The absurd contract he signed cost him his All-Pro Center, LT, & LG in succession without a solid replacement plan.
    But totally agree with the rest

  61. bimbomoose says: Mar 29, 2012 7:55 PM

    This guy has elite RB written all over him. Barring injury, he’ll be gr8!

  62. theytukrjobs says: Mar 29, 2012 8:07 PM

    Since when is a 4.4 forty for a guy who can throw up 25 reps of 225 a bad thing? Richardson doesn’t have the pure running ability that some of the elite college backs have but he combines near-elite running with great blocking and pass catching, which seldom go hand in hand.

    Seems he’s coming out of college at the right time because teams are looking for backs that can catch and block, while still being dangerous to go the distance.

  63. hmbutter49 says: Mar 29, 2012 8:11 PM

    had to throw that “(most)”in there for the raiders

  64. brownoholic says: Mar 29, 2012 9:03 PM

    I’m sold on this guy. I’ve been thinking it over forever now and I now really think he can help out McCoy and the Browns’ offense more than anyone else at pick #4. Considerably more than Blackmon could, and I really like Blackmon. There are great WRs that we can get at pick #s 22 &/or 37.

  65. slowclyde86 says: Mar 29, 2012 9:47 PM

    I must say I too think he would look good in Cleveland. He is player.

  66. patswhatsup says: Mar 29, 2012 10:20 PM

    If cleveland takes him then poor bucs…

    They’ll just be stuck with Justin Blackmon opposite Vincent Jackson!

    I’m sure they’ll be happy either way.

  67. hrdcorbengalsfan says: Mar 29, 2012 10:36 PM

    Typical browns fashion…draft him this year, trade him next!

  68. trubroncfan07 says: Mar 29, 2012 11:28 PM

    There going to draft Tannehill, only way they can get a QB is by drafting one.

  69. zack1102 says: Mar 30, 2012 1:05 AM

    Trent Is a great running back. Let him play , it doesn’t matter how fast he is or is he going to be a extraordinary back in the nfl. Everybody knows that he was a great running back, if u watch him in college

  70. zack1102 says: Mar 30, 2012 1:08 AM

    He is a great back. Stop trying to but him down about how fast he was at his pro day. But if you watch him in college he was a complete back. Let’s go bengals

  71. bucwild05 says: Mar 30, 2012 2:53 PM

    patswhatsup says:
    If cleveland takes him then poor bucs…

    They’ll just be stuck with Justin Blackmon opposite Vincent Jackson!

    I’m sure they’ll be happy either way.
    __________________________________________________________________

    Disagree…. It would be Claiborne. The Bucs have Williams opposite of V-Jax. They don’t need WR help at this point.

    I, as a Bucs fan, still am torn between the RB or CB. It’s tough. I do see that if the Bucs want Richardson, I see them trading picks with the Vikings.

  72. chadm29 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:28 PM

    How many 1st Round QBs not named Manning have won a Super Bowl in the past 20+ years? Answer: 2

    So now it’s all the rage to reach for mediocre QBs in the 1st round when history says you should do otherwise. So the same knock on drafting RBs high could also apply to the QB position…but you don’t hear that very often. No one really questions using a high pick on a QB.

    Richardson is a unique talent and could be a great NFL RB, not just a good one. Unless there’s a “can’t miss” OL or DL available that is a difference maker, I’d definitely use a top 5 pick on Richardson…and feel pretty confident he’ll make an immediate impact for the team.

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