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		<title>By: granadafan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1688125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granadafan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re stalling so all the players can get the HGH and other masking agents out of their system prior to the first test.  I have a feeling Goodell is ok with this because of the negative publicity that comes with positive tests and the absurd denial excuses that come from the agents/ PR agents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re stalling so all the players can get the HGH and other masking agents out of their system prior to the first test.  I have a feeling Goodell is ok with this because of the negative publicity that comes with positive tests and the absurd denial excuses that come from the agents/ PR agents.</p>
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		<title>By: deangelo1776</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1688067</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope so Laron Landry&#039;s sake, HGH testing doesn&#039;t go through lol

Just kidding, but really, It would be interesting to see what happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so Laron Landry&#8217;s sake, HGH testing doesn&#8217;t go through lol</p>
<p>Just kidding, but really, It would be interesting to see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Coppola</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Coppola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s laughable that the nflpa thinks that their athletes wouldn&#039;t compare to Olympic athletes in a population study.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s laughable that the nflpa thinks that their athletes wouldn&#8217;t compare to Olympic athletes in a population study.</p>
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		<title>By: steelers4385</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687732</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to take this time to assure all of you that Laron Landry is not on roids. I think its pretty obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to take this time to assure all of you that Laron Landry is not on roids. I think its pretty obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: kc4life7</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kc4life7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, HGH testing is a waste of money.  If I&#039;ve heard correctly, the person literally has to shoot the HGH 30 minutes before testing for it to even register.  So if they have 30 minutes of notice, as long as they haven&#039;t pinned, it won&#039;t be detectable.

Plus, synthetic HGH is a thing of the past.  Peptides are probably what athletes are using now because it helps you secrete more of your own natural HGH, therefore causing less side effects.  

Whenever you start testing for something, something else comes out.  It&#039;s kind of a waste of money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, HGH testing is a waste of money.  If I&#8217;ve heard correctly, the person literally has to shoot the HGH 30 minutes before testing for it to even register.  So if they have 30 minutes of notice, as long as they haven&#8217;t pinned, it won&#8217;t be detectable.</p>
<p>Plus, synthetic HGH is a thing of the past.  Peptides are probably what athletes are using now because it helps you secrete more of your own natural HGH, therefore causing less side effects.  </p>
<p>Whenever you start testing for something, something else comes out.  It&#8217;s kind of a waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: joe6606</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687622</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if 100% of players use HGH. 

It causes no visible changes to your body other than faster healing, so harder to observe. Fewer side effects like acne, unexplained rage, bigger head, etc; unlike steroids.

 The competitive balance effects of using are murkier. I guess this point is more subjective, but in my opinion, a drug that artificially boosts strength and thus gives users an unfair physical advantage is morally worse than a drug that merely allows one to recover from injuries faster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if 100% of players use HGH. </p>
<p>It causes no visible changes to your body other than faster healing, so harder to observe. Fewer side effects like acne, unexplained rage, bigger head, etc; unlike steroids.</p>
<p> The competitive balance effects of using are murkier. I guess this point is more subjective, but in my opinion, a drug that artificially boosts strength and thus gives users an unfair physical advantage is morally worse than a drug that merely allows one to recover from injuries faster.</p>
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		<title>By: rtookey</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687603</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Overuse of anything creates side effects... Steroid use along with HGH are the most overblown farse, it ridiculous. I dont use, nor condone it, however, think its ridiculous how people are misinformed of these drugs...

More people die anually by multi vitamin overdose... Yearly # of people who have died by direct use of steroids... 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overuse of anything creates side effects&#8230; Steroid use along with HGH are the most overblown farse, it ridiculous. I dont use, nor condone it, however, think its ridiculous how people are misinformed of these drugs&#8230;</p>
<p>More people die anually by multi vitamin overdose&#8230; Yearly # of people who have died by direct use of steroids&#8230; 3.</p>
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		<title>By: toastingpoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol - I am a physician. And I would agree that there is a role for exogenous HGH therapy in HGH-deficient individuals. But a pro athlete is hardly the same demographic as an HGH-deficient elderly patient with a hip #, and unless they have a pituitary tumor or something weird like sarcoidosis, don&#039;t really see how it&#039;s use could be indicated. In fact it could conceivably lead to HGH suppression via negative feedback and, in turn, cause HGH deficiency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol &#8211; I am a physician. And I would agree that there is a role for exogenous HGH therapy in HGH-deficient individuals. But a pro athlete is hardly the same demographic as an HGH-deficient elderly patient with a hip #, and unless they have a pituitary tumor or something weird like sarcoidosis, don&#8217;t really see how it&#8217;s use could be indicated. In fact it could conceivably lead to HGH suppression via negative feedback and, in turn, cause HGH deficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: meatloaf025</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687565</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ask B Bonds girlfriend about the effects of HGH. Is online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask B Bonds girlfriend about the effects of HGH. Is online.</p>
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		<title>By: steviemo</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687489</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Commonly reported side effects for hGH abuse are: diabetes in prone individuals; worsening of cardiovascular diseases; muscle, joint and bone pain; hypertension and cardiac deficiency; abnormal growth of organs; accelerated osteoarthritis.

In untreated acromegalic individuals (known for pathological over-production of hGH), many of the symptoms described above are observed and life expectancy is known to be significantly reduced.

Because of the role that hGH plays in stimulating IGF-1 secretion, excessive use of hGH may also lead to metabolic dysfunction, including glucose intolerance and other side effects associated with excess levels of IGF-1.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Commonly reported side effects for hGH abuse are: diabetes in prone individuals; worsening of cardiovascular diseases; muscle, joint and bone pain; hypertension and cardiac deficiency; abnormal growth of organs; accelerated osteoarthritis.</p>
<p>In untreated acromegalic individuals (known for pathological over-production of hGH), many of the symptoms described above are observed and life expectancy is known to be significantly reduced.</p>
<p>Because of the role that hGH plays in stimulating IGF-1 secretion, excessive use of hGH may also lead to metabolic dysfunction, including glucose intolerance and other side effects associated with excess levels of IGF-1.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kingfish4242</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/hgh-testing-issue-still-lingers/#comment-1687480</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cuffhimbanano says:
Mar 29, 2012 9:11 AM
HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It’s a shame that this is primarily a rich person’s candy.

You, and anyone giving the thumbs up are barking mad.

toastingpoe says:
Mar 29, 2012 9:40 AM
HGH is good for you? Maybe when it comes from your pituitary…


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Actually,he&#039;s making a very good point. I can&#039;t post the direct link,but this is the quote from the Dr. who said he doesn&#039;t prescribe it to athletes,but does to his elderly patients where a broken hip can be a death sentence. HGH is no longer produced naturally in someone at that age.

Produced naturally by the anterior pituitary gland, at the base of the brain, growth hormone plays a major role in body growth by stimulating the liver and other tissues to produce insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1. One of the chief actions of IGF-1 is that it stokes the creation of cartilage and bone, a benefit that has not gone unnoticed by athletes and orthopedists. Injected, synthetic HGH has the same effect.

He goes on to say while IGF-1 does increase muscle size,it doesn&#039;t produce a notable increase in strength like Anabolic steroids. Athletes want to be treated with HGH to speed up the healing process from injuries,not to gain strength.

let&#039;s say your favorite team has a player that suffers a ACL tear in game one. if HGH can help him be ready to play again in a few months instead of putting him on IR for the rest of the year,wouldn&#039;t you be happy?

Obviously more testing should be done,but HGH is a very promising drug that can be used to increase the quality of life for many people including those that don&#039;t play professional sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cuffhimbanano says:<br />
Mar 29, 2012 9:11 AM<br />
HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It’s a shame that this is primarily a rich person’s candy.</p>
<p>You, and anyone giving the thumbs up are barking mad.</p>
<p>toastingpoe says:<br />
Mar 29, 2012 9:40 AM<br />
HGH is good for you? Maybe when it comes from your pituitary…</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Actually,he&#8217;s making a very good point. I can&#8217;t post the direct link,but this is the quote from the Dr. who said he doesn&#8217;t prescribe it to athletes,but does to his elderly patients where a broken hip can be a death sentence. HGH is no longer produced naturally in someone at that age.</p>
<p>Produced naturally by the anterior pituitary gland, at the base of the brain, growth hormone plays a major role in body growth by stimulating the liver and other tissues to produce insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1. One of the chief actions of IGF-1 is that it stokes the creation of cartilage and bone, a benefit that has not gone unnoticed by athletes and orthopedists. Injected, synthetic HGH has the same effect.</p>
<p>He goes on to say while IGF-1 does increase muscle size,it doesn&#8217;t produce a notable increase in strength like Anabolic steroids. Athletes want to be treated with HGH to speed up the healing process from injuries,not to gain strength.</p>
<p>let&#8217;s say your favorite team has a player that suffers a ACL tear in game one. if HGH can help him be ready to play again in a few months instead of putting him on IR for the rest of the year,wouldn&#8217;t you be happy?</p>
<p>Obviously more testing should be done,but HGH is a very promising drug that can be used to increase the quality of life for many people including those that don&#8217;t play professional sports.</p>
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		<title>By: toastingpoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HGH is good for you? Maybe when it comes from your pituitary...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HGH is good for you? Maybe when it comes from your pituitary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: weepingjebus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[weepingjebus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In all fairness, Saints players need really big hands in order to hold all that bounty money.  It&#039;s a medical issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness, Saints players need really big hands in order to hold all that bounty money.  It&#8217;s a medical issue.</p>
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		<title>By: buffalomafia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buffalomafia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wtf is taking so long?]]></description>
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		<title>By: clivus63</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cuffhimbanano says: 
Mar 29, 2012 9:11 AM 
HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It’s a shame that this is primarily a rich person’s candy.

Have to agree, but one other thing...overuse of HGH leads to carpal tunnel syndrome(hand numbness).
WHAT QB, TB, WR, TE, LB WOULD WANT THAT!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cuffhimbanano says:<br />
Mar 29, 2012 9:11 AM<br />
HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It’s a shame that this is primarily a rich person’s candy.</p>
<p>Have to agree, but one other thing&#8230;overuse of HGH leads to carpal tunnel syndrome(hand numbness).<br />
WHAT QB, TB, WR, TE, LB WOULD WANT THAT!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sj39</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cuffhimbanano says: 
Mar 29, 2012 9:11 AM 
HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It’s a shame that this is primarily a rich person’s candy.

You, and anyone giving the thumbs up are barking mad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cuffhimbanano says:<br />
Mar 29, 2012 9:11 AM<br />
HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It’s a shame that this is primarily a rich person’s candy.</p>
<p>You, and anyone giving the thumbs up are barking mad.</p>
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		<title>By: cuffhimbanano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cuffhimbanano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It&#039;s a shame that this is primarily a rich person&#039;s candy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HGH is flat out good for you and should be subsidized with our tax dollars. It&#8217;s a shame that this is primarily a rich person&#8217;s candy.</p>
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		<title>By: scrapingthefloorioforstorios</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scrapingthefloorioforstorios]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[all i know is if one saints player tested positive, all saints fans would claim that &quot;everyone&#039;s doing it, it was just our player that got caught&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i know is if one saints player tested positive, all saints fans would claim that &#8220;everyone&#8217;s doing it, it was just our player that got caught&#8221;.</p>
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