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De Smith calls NFL’s bounty probe “a very unfair situation”

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The NFLPA largely has been quiet regarding the NFL’s conclusion from four weeks ago today that the Saints maintained a bounty system for three years, administered by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and funded by and distributed to defensive players who, among other things, knocked opponents out of games.

Executive director DeMaurice Smith, who was elected to a second term last week, addressed the situation in an “exclusive interview” with ProPlayerInsiders.com, a website that essentially operates as an arm of the NFLPA.

Smith believes that the league should provide all information regarding the investigation to the union.  “As of yet, they haven’t turned over anything that we would consider to be direct evidence of player involvement in a ‘pay to injure’ scheme that we could consider for discipline,” Smith said.  “It’s very hard to have a productive discussion about punishment when one side has kept, to itself, all the information.”

Smith hopes that the information will be provided before discipline is imposed on any players.

“It’s a very, at least from our perspective, a very unfair situation where you have a number of allegations floating back and forth in the press,” Smith said.  “There certainly appears to be some information that’s been provided to the media about certain individuals’ involvement and references to everything from emails to Powerpoints.  It’s difficult for those players to be in a situation where they can hardly defend themselves from unsubstantiated accusations that are being made in the public.”

Smith is right, to an extent.  On one hand, negative information about players like Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been leaked by the league.  On the other hand, these aren’t accusations — these are conclusions that the league has made, based in large part on admissions from members of the Saints organization.

Smith also addressed for the first time last week’s ill-advised decision by NFL Network, which is owned by the league, to permit discussion on its air regarding the identity of the person who blew the whistle in 2011, which allowed the bounty system to finally be exposed.  “We have an unfortunate circumstance now where someone from the National Football League, or at least an affiliate of the National Football League, accused another player of providing information, or being the so-called ‘whistleblower,'” Smith said.  “There are accusations flying back and forth about who provided the information, and who didn’t provide the information.”

The NFL presumably will provide the information in conjunction with the appeals that the players who are punished inevitably will file.  It’s unclear whether the league has any advance obligation to do so, it should.  This is an unprecedented situation in which the league and the union need to work together.  The NFL’s failure to cooperate now makes it less likely that the NFLPA will do anything other than fight later.

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83 Responses to “De Smith calls NFL’s bounty probe “a very unfair situation””
  1. nyyjetsknicks says: Mar 30, 2012 5:58 PM

    Go ask your players who were the targets and see how the feel.

  2. amaf21 says: Mar 30, 2012 5:59 PM

    Oh great. As if we haven’t heard enough BS today, we’ve got this phony blowhard running his blabber mouth now. Go take a long walk off a short pier De – the players deserve far better than you. RIP Gene Upshaw.

  3. wherezwaldo says: Mar 30, 2012 5:59 PM

    sounds like an Aints to me

  4. joetoronto says: Mar 30, 2012 6:01 PM

    This bozo should be worried about the safety of his “brothers.”

  5. knowerofallthings says: Mar 30, 2012 6:02 PM

    Mr. Irrelevant

  6. twodat says: Mar 30, 2012 6:04 PM

    Good job by the press. I think something happened like this in the 50’s. Tail Gunner Joe remind anyone of anything?

  7. pastabelly says: Mar 30, 2012 6:04 PM

    So far, the only discipline meted out has been to management and that is none of De Smith’s business.

  8. xtutx says: Mar 30, 2012 6:04 PM

    Certainly.

    As soon as you acknowledge HGH testing that you agreed to.

  9. saintsvstheworld says: Mar 30, 2012 6:04 PM

    WHO DAT!! Say what you will but Smith has a point…not saying they’re innocent but hypocracy is woven all through this ordeal.

  10. jason1980 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:06 PM

    Which players were targets? Pierre Thomas, in the Saints/49ers playoff game?? Let’s see some documentation, as opposed to NFL spin and leaked info for public consumption.

  11. robert831 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:08 PM

    The union should be sticking up for the players who were targeted. Focus on protecting player safety, and back harsh penalties for all those involved in bounties. They can’t have it both ways.

  12. cowboycjn says: Mar 30, 2012 6:10 PM

    I think interviews with Favre & Rogers has already been done and both said they are not intimidated nor do they think it was anything more than normal football.

    Lets interview the 9ers player that took that head shot and knocked P. Thomas out of the game. Oh thats right just N.O. is under the gun -no one else did that.

  13. steelers4385 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:11 PM

    Ohh my god. This team was out getting paid to end players careers basiclly. Stop whining. Stop crying. I love james harrison but even myself.. I dont like cheap shots. Youre whole freakn team was doing it. You got caught, lied about it numerous times…. Then Got caught again and now its to harsh of a punishment? I mean get a grip. There is nothing any of you hillbilly redneck dirty new orlean saints fans can say to make any reasonable argument that it was right in any way what so ever. If your orginization wasnt so stupid and mabye pay youre elite qb the money he deserves there might be a tad bit of respect left. But after this whole bounty thing there is none left on my part. I hope cam newton slaps your pathetic city up this year.

  14. txxxchief says: Mar 30, 2012 6:12 PM

    Why would the NFL turn over all of their information to the perpetrators before the investigation is complete? It would just aid the playas and the NFLPA in construction of their coverup.

  15. zanderbough says: Mar 30, 2012 6:13 PM

    Oh man, I have been waiting for this. The NFLPA was doing the right thing by keeping its mouth shut. Any objection to the length or severity of the suspensions handed out to players will be beyond hypocritical. The NFLPA fights the NFL on player safety and then complains when those who tried to hurt other players (other NFLPA members, in fact) are disciplined.
    What a joke.

  16. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 30, 2012 6:14 PM

    De Smith is alive. :(

  17. ascensionparish says: Mar 30, 2012 6:15 PM

    De Smith is ALL right, not just to an extent. The NFLPA has a right to give their input, but can only do so once the documents have been released to them. So far, NONE of the documents have been released. Only then can the NFLPA truly give a reasonable argument, if it even wishes to, depending on the information in the documents.

  18. thegonz13 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:16 PM

    If Gregg Williams admitted to the bounties, it took players to execute so they could collect… right?

    What’s so unfair, you nitwit?

  19. bobwhitequail says: Mar 30, 2012 6:18 PM

    Great, more political posturing by De Smith is just what the world needs.

    De is painting himself as the good guy and protecting Vilma from big bad Roger. Roger is the bad guy “unfairly” punishing players.

    Uh De, you work for ALL the players and player safety should be your #1 concern. This is not some political stage for you to showboat. I can’t wait until next week, are you going to say “We are at War!” again? It’s just not helpful for anything but your bloated ego. You should be more concerned with the wellfare of all the players, not your own power plays.

  20. beavertonsteve says: Mar 30, 2012 6:18 PM

    Mr Smith, it’s important to note that no Head Coaches, Assistant Coaches or GMs actually attempted to injure anyone… no, that would be NFL players… you know, the guys you represent.

  21. electionconfidential says: Mar 30, 2012 6:19 PM

    Can no one in the Saints organization see which way the wind is blowing here? If they aren’t opening their mouths to say, “We were wrong.” then they ought to be keeping their mouths closed. They’re just making it worse.

    It’s WAY too easy right now to picture the Saints doing this same thing again because they don’t appear to see anything wrong with it.

  22. bearsandjazz says: Mar 30, 2012 6:20 PM

    Hey De….what more evidence do you really need. Payton and Williams have admitted wrong doing. I think a confession is enough to warrant the punishment they received. Plus at this point all your doing is trying to do is dilute the responsibility of the coaches and players to do the right thing by finding loop holes in the system to keep them from being guilty. De you are an ambulance chaser, a used car salesman. Let your players be MEN and take responsibility for what they know is wrong.

  23. wherezwaldo says: Mar 30, 2012 6:20 PM

    Whitner>Thomas. They get caught with their pants down, thennnn come out with it. Now these smug bass tards appeal. Godell should make their suspension longer afterwards. Fthe Aints.

  24. johnnyb216 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:23 PM

    This league is starting to become a big soap opera (in other words, a joke).

  25. beretta96d says: Mar 30, 2012 6:26 PM

    This is such typical union rhetoric! He needs to keep his mouth shut and stay in the shadows.

    It was his “members” adding to the pot themselves along with dishing out the punishment to their own “brothers”.

    Smith is standing on a soap box defending his “members” from what? Themselves?

    All this union BS is just that, a waste of time and money. We’re all brothers until it comes to money and seniority then it’s every man for himself.

  26. rexismybff says: Mar 30, 2012 6:27 PM

    “addressed the situation in an “exclusive interview” with ProPlayerInsiders.com, a website that essentially operates as an arm of the NFLPA”

    ================

    That’s pretty funny, coming from a website that “essentially operates” as a public relations outlet for Jay Glazer and Peter King.

  27. irishnativeson says: Mar 30, 2012 6:29 PM

    Although the commissioner of the leagues expressed interest is to uphold the integrity of the game, it’s really to protect the owners ability to make money. The office of the commissioner, for all intents and purposes, is the judge and prosecutor of all penalties, fines and sanctions. Therein, I suspect, lies an inherent conflict of interest, because he works for the owners. The NFLPA takes the roll of defense counsel and their job is to vigorously defend the players positions on any number of issues, right, wrong or indifferent. Work stoppages, lockouts and strikes do as much damage to the game as anything can, fans find it hard to pick sides when you have millionaires pitted against billionaires, but back to my original premise, the integrity of the game. To assert a modicum of integrity there has to be transparency. permissum illic exsisto perspicuus

  28. jimr10 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:30 PM

    Did anyone actually expect anything different from De Smith?

  29. brokea$$lovesmesomeme says: Mar 30, 2012 6:31 PM

    Of course hes going to say that. He and Goddell have already decided between them the punishment and what de will say once it is announced.

  30. letmesetyoustraight says: Mar 30, 2012 6:32 PM

    This is odd. It comes out today that none of the parties accused or the head of the NFLPA has seen any of the evidence yet, but early on some of the evidence was leaked to a chosen few in the media. What’ up with that?

  31. jagerbmb says: Mar 30, 2012 6:32 PM

    Guess the NFL hasn’t offered De Smith more salary cap room if he will agree with the punishment yet…

  32. 86chawk says: Mar 30, 2012 6:36 PM

    Everytime i see this dumb arse i can only wonder……..who crapped in his mouth? Right now i want to put a bounty on who could shut this idiot up for good!!!

  33. jackers252 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:37 PM

    Imagine that, unlike the media, the players union want to actually see some fact before jumping to sensationalist conclusions.

  34. bduncanscott says: Mar 30, 2012 6:43 PM

    OHHHHH no the nfl is unfair huh? Kindaq like how unfair it is that you allowed yourself to be bribed by the NFL and colluded with the NFL to steal cap room from The Cowboys and Redskins! Guess cheaters get cheated

  35. stats5 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:44 PM

    D. Smith is an idiot.

  36. stevemdlthn says: Mar 30, 2012 6:57 PM

    Whether you like it or not Goodell made this bigger than it should have been. Fair punishments would have been accepted and the rest of the 32 teams would stop the practice , the message would have been loud and clear. Fire ….Goodell

  37. thespeaker08 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:01 PM

    Yes I suppose that Greg Williams, Payton, and Loomis all just admitted their guilt and accepted unprecedented punishment for funsies.

    They wouldn’t have admitted it if it didn’t happen. The investigation was clearly unfounded.

    De smith = worst lawyer of all time

  38. thetooloftools says: Mar 30, 2012 7:01 PM

    I do think the NFL should move to a “pay for performance” format where the winning team makes more then the losers. The players have no “skin in the game” as if they play well or slack (take plays off Moss) they still make the same $. The XFL was looked at as a joke, but I loved that concept they brought into the game. If throwing money down will make players play harder (without having to knock someone out of a game through injury) then so be it.

  39. markwmeier says: Mar 30, 2012 7:04 PM

    De smith should shut his mouth and get fired. Worthless individual.

  40. gb4mn0 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:05 PM

    De (pimp) Smith should be ashamed to be taking both of his positions on “bountygate” and on Crapp wrongly outing Shockey. The NFLPA, more over De (pimp) Smith, should be concerned more about the dissension among his union members resulting from a lack of trust between the players caused by both of these incidents. Where’s all the “union brotherhood?”

    If he had any integrity he would be calling for Crapp’s immediate firing and chastising any players guilty of participating in “bountygate.” which puts at risk a players livelihood. Excluding vikequeef players lol.

  41. gweez76 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:18 PM

    if he was interested in fair he never would of agreed to sell skins and boys down the river for a few measley bucks

  42. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 30, 2012 7:18 PM

    As PFT points out, ProPlayersInsiders.com is simply an organ of the NFLPA.

    The one devoted to the elimination of bodily waste.

  43. musicman495 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:19 PM

    Thank you, NFLPA, for finally asking what I have been asking since the beginning of this – where is the f-ing evidence??? 50,000 pages, we are told, and we have seen not page 1 in public – only the NFL’s characterizations and conclusions. And this is the same NFL that is covering up the facts and justification in the Cowboys-Redskins salary cap scam. Would anyone accept a trial where the prosecution just TOLD the jury what all the evidence was, and what all the witnesses said, without the jury seeing and hearing it for themselves?

  44. CKL says: Mar 30, 2012 7:27 PM

    I wonder if Sapp had been an active player instead of an NFL employee would DeSmith have taken after him like that? He should have done it either way, but I suspect he wouldn’t have.

  45. ejmat2 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:27 PM

    Okay, so let me get this straight. The front office staff involved admitted the wrong doing but the league hasn’t presented any evidence. Really???? DeSmith is the biggest jackass I’ve ever heard speak.

  46. ninjaneer74 says: Mar 30, 2012 7:32 PM

    The bounty probe situation is unfair, but the CAP penalties on the Cowboys and Redskins is fair…The sky is green the grass is blue…They’re coming to take us away! Hee hee ho ho ha ha…

  47. klunge says: Mar 30, 2012 7:36 PM

    Not a very good lawyer if he doesn’t even know that circumstancial evidence + confessions negate the need for direct evidence.

  48. 69firebird says: Mar 30, 2012 7:39 PM

    De smith… Forsaking the 99 to protect the 1.

  49. blackqbwhiterb says: Mar 30, 2012 7:45 PM

    The nfl’s own Jimmy Hoffa

  50. realdealsteel says: Mar 30, 2012 7:57 PM

    Here are facts:

    The league made these assumptions based on whistleblowers. But…as Marshall Faulk said on the NFL Network last week, ” If the Saints have been operating under a bounty system for 3 years, they’ve done a very poor job of it.” Because the Saints were in the bottom third of the league in opposing players being injured the last 3 years. This whole “bounty” thing is being overblown and that’s why the NFL is being reluctant to turn anything over because all they have are pages of speculation. Because when it comes to what’s happened on the field, the Saints were nowhere near the most injury causing team in the NFL. No where near.

  51. realdealsteel says: Mar 30, 2012 8:01 PM

    The truth is,…all defensive players (bounty or not) want to put the super ka-pow hit on offensive players. That’s the way the game has always been played. If if it puts an offensive player out the game, then there was a little something left in their locker at the end of the game.

  52. rnazriel says: Mar 30, 2012 8:05 PM

    D. Smith, the emperor with no clothes.

  53. beastup22 says: Mar 30, 2012 8:06 PM

    Why wouldn’t he ask for evidence, his job is to give a recommendation on the punishment? This is common sense who would just take a punishment with no evidence presented to them?

  54. conormacleod says: Mar 30, 2012 8:22 PM

    Does anybody care, other than Saints fans? 99% of us are just fine with what the punishments have been so far, and we’ll be good with some Saints players being suspended. Who cares if the Saints fans don’t like it?

  55. garryjercia says: Mar 30, 2012 8:54 PM

    De, go fu€k yourself dude. Screw a couple of teams ( and free agents ) out of cap space to save a bit of face this year, ‘no prob mr Godell’. Punish coaches who blatantly lied every chance they got to ensure they could continue injuring members of your constituency, ‘this will not stand’

    What a joke.

  56. vikingamericann says: Mar 30, 2012 9:11 PM

    Does anybody care, other than Saints fans? 99% of us are just fine with what the punishments have been so far, and we’ll be good with some Saints players being suspended. Who cares if the Saints fans don’t like it?

    This is about as ignorant as a human being can be. Let us punish the guilty as harshly as possible! History is ripe with this type of apathy. Americans used to understand that punishments and crimes must be fit. That the accused be presented with the evidence against them. What do we have to verify the Saints had bounty system. A few carefully worded apologies that the ignorant call confessions and Goodell’s word. Let the NFL show us the who what when where and how in their 50k pages. They can redact the whistle blowers name. But as far as accepting the word of others to determine justice? Imagine an America that worked on that principle.

  57. sfsaintsfan says: Mar 30, 2012 9:14 PM

    “….distributed to defensive players who, among other things, knocked opponents out of games.”

    Name the specific player(s) who were knocked out of games. Favre doesn’t count, he completed the game.

    Please back up your assertions with facts, or stop making them.

  58. geauxmez says: Mar 30, 2012 9:19 PM

    who did the Saints actually injure? and dont say favre. video shows him walking just fine after the game… and he should have retired 4 years earlier anyway.

  59. jimw81 says: Mar 30, 2012 9:22 PM

    It seems like De Smith doesn’t care about the members of his union that want something done to these players. I want to know his position on HGH testing.

  60. dpinchot says: Mar 30, 2012 9:27 PM

    garryjercia,you are the fool. Admitting to a pay for big hits and the coverup is not the same as having a pay for injure system. No one is admitting to intentionally injuring other players. Big difference between big hits and putting players out of the game and trying to end their career. Go f$@k yourself.

  61. sportsfan1949 says: Mar 30, 2012 9:48 PM

    One thing has always fascinated me about sports unions in this type of situation – who does the union represent, the alleged perpetrator or the alleged victim? Aren’t both members of the union? What a great situation we might face – members of “management” admitting to wrong-doing and being severely punished while members of “labor” will be denying their involvement in what the “managers” have already admitted to. Even better, the union representing alleged participants in lieu of being concerned over the future and current health of the “targeted” union members. Is this a great country or what?

  62. Deb says: Mar 30, 2012 10:25 PM

    As a rule, I support the NFLPA. But their first responsibility should be the health and safety of rule-abiding players. I hope they remember the victims in this situation are also union members and stand up for them.

  63. hagigun says: Mar 30, 2012 10:33 PM

    Shouldn’t the NFLPA and DeSmith do their own investigation on behalf of the rest of the Players?!? You are suppossed to be backing the ENTIRE players Union, not the random few who were out to injure the others. This dude is clueless. Why should the NFL turn over anything at this point, call up your players and get it straight from the horses mouth. If those players from the Saints lie to the Union about their involvement, they should face sanctions from the Union.

    In my opinion, this is a nightmare situation for the NFLPA, but hey, it was the “P”layers who created it. Deal with it DeSmith.

  64. cjh16 says: Mar 30, 2012 10:34 PM

    @ nyyjetsknicks

    What?? Ask what players?? Kurt Warner himself said the shot that knocked him out of the game was legal… as would any knowlegable football fan. Illegal hits on Favre?? The players that perpetrated those hits aren’t on the Saints roster anymore… and neither is the DC that encouraged it. Face it, the Saints aren’t going away! I know you want us to but we ain’t your dad’s Saints anymore. We’re going to be elite for a long time to come. In case you people weren’t aware, we have come back from far worse and now we have upgraded our weakest link (defense) with one of the best defensive coordinators in the league.

  65. backindasaddle says: Mar 30, 2012 10:44 PM

    This will be interesting and will likely confirm what I’ve always seen with unions. The supposed mission of union management is to protect and advocate for it’s membership. What I have witness in many years of dealing with and observing union management behavior and tactics is that it’s all about extracting the most money and power from businesses for the least amount of work. With regards to safety, they use it as a leveraging tactic only to require slower work rates with more hours and people required per unit of work performed…. all in the name of safety. It’s a joke. To union management it’s not about safety, it’s about being as unproductive as possible for the most compensation possible.

    In this little NFL episode the players were actually going out and deliberately injuring each other (so much for union “brotherhood”). In light of this, and in assessing the unions “mission”, should we not expect the union itself to come down ferociously hard on those players that took part in bounties and impose very severe disciplinary action them??? Would that not be appropriate??? My guess is that the union will take absolutely zero disciplinary measures against the bounty hunters. They will instead focus all their energy on fighting against the owners disciplinary actions and on behalf of the bounty hunters that deliberately went out and injured their own “brother” members.

    In other words: Union management does not give a rat’s arss about the physical well being and safety of the their members. They ultimately only care about power vs. the businesses and extracting the most cash for the least amount of work.

  66. saints25 says: Mar 30, 2012 11:18 PM

    DE is telling you THE NFL has nothing on these players,Roger God=dell is a lying POS

  67. vikingdoode says: Mar 30, 2012 11:34 PM

    Former coach Greg Williams already admitted there was one….Now who…Greg just speak! end of story….

  68. musicman495 says: Mar 30, 2012 11:44 PM

    “I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, Mr. Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the ‘pay for performance’ program while I was with the Saints,” Gregg Williams said. “It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again.”
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    Now, for all of you who say that Gregg Williams has admitted that he did it, and so what is De Smith talking about, Mr. Williams did not admit to what Roger Goodell has accused him of. And I am still waiting for the EVIDENCE of three years of actual illegal bounty hits – not big talk and threats about hits, and not one or two questionable hits on one player in one game.

  69. footballfan292 says: Mar 31, 2012 12:03 AM

    If the union fights it, then i dont want to see them EVER complain about the league not caring about player safety again.

    Make up your mind, De Smith.

    As for coaches and management…it’s none of the union’s business. They don’t represent the coaches.

  70. vtopa says: Mar 31, 2012 12:27 AM

    Just because you may not like unions does not mean that you have to dump on Smith. He’s right. The NFL has done a HORRIBLE job of keeping this bounty stuff under wraps. Even if the leaks are of “an investigation” that doesn’t mean anything. How do we know that the investigation was perfect? Why are people SO willing to take the NFL’s position on this at face value.

    If you were accused of something wouldn’t you want the evidence to look at and rebut yourself? Its amazing how, just because people are hating on the Saints that they are willing to believe everything that comes out of Goddell’s mouth.

    Trust me, you would not feel this way if it was YOUR team that was getting shafted. How do I know? I’ve witnessed the complaints of the Pats fans for spygate, and now Redskins and Cowboys fans over the salary cap debacle. If you are going to consume this information, have the sense to use at least two of your brain cells for more than just automatically clicking on the thumbs down button whenever a bountygate story comment says something in defense of players, the Saints, or the coaches. Youare all starting to sound and act like lackeys for the NFL brass.

  71. ivibaileyivi says: Mar 31, 2012 1:07 AM

    Ha Ha AINTS i love all this bad vibe surrounding your team. Your hurt your brother your dad whoops dat a#$ fools. TIMEOUT!!

  72. ivibaileyivi says: Mar 31, 2012 1:11 AM

    2012 dishwaser ot the year is……………. Sean Payton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go get a job at Applebees Bum!!!!!!!!!

  73. sariff420 says: Mar 31, 2012 2:06 AM

    DeMaurice is right you idiotic pansy clowns.

  74. kimtrouard says: Mar 31, 2012 2:24 AM

    steelers4385 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:11 PM

    Ohh my god. This team was out getting paid to end players careers basiclly. Stop whining. Stop crying. I love james harrison but even myself.. I dont like cheap shots. Youre whole freakn team was doing it. You got caught, lied about it numerous times…. Then Got caught again and now its to harsh of a punishment? I mean get a grip. There is nothing any of you hillbilly redneck dirty new orlean saints fans can say to make any reasonable argument that it was right in any way what so ever. If your orginization wasnt so stupid and mabye pay youre elite qb the money he deserves there might be a tad bit of respect left. But after this whole bounty thing there is none left on my part. I hope cam newton slaps your pathetic city up this year.
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    and everyone in nola hopes your mother has a date with roethlisberger.

  75. crabboil says: Mar 31, 2012 2:54 AM

    If the evidence is conclusive, please release it.

  76. jayniner says: Mar 31, 2012 3:09 AM

    And us NFL fans call what you did De Smith in almost costing us the 2011 NFL season “A Very Unfair Situation”….you greedy douche.

  77. boltdaddy says: Mar 31, 2012 8:58 AM

    NFLPA needs to have an “evidence” clause in the next CBA compelling The League to provide all evidence collected during an investigation into player conduct PRIOR to disciplining said player.

  78. saintswillprevail says: Mar 31, 2012 9:28 AM

    I am a Saints fan and can admit that I was pretty appalled at some of the allegations against them. I don’t care if most teams do it, it isn’t right and they should be punished. One thing I can say though is that there is no other team in the league that can come back from something like this better than the Saints. They will have some extra motivation this year.

  79. daknight93 says: Mar 31, 2012 11:44 AM

    Goodell did an awesome job in the media to publicly humiliate and embarrass saints over his lies and cover up…every team has an incentive program and league knows this, a few saints players participated in taking cash under the table, but never intentionally or wanted to injure another player…it makes no sense for a player wanting to purposely injure another fellow player…saints made some legal big hits, but this is football and all these hypocrites believe this crap roger goodell is spitting in the media…he’s withholding all the facts from the union and saints…Roger Goodell works for the owners and he does not care about player safety or the nflpa..goodell is a shady and twisted commissioner

  80. saintjude267 says: Mar 31, 2012 12:06 PM

    What happened to Innocent until proven Guilty??? Where is this 50,000 page document? Why isn’t it released? If this is about player safety, why wasn’t it enforced 2 years ago? Why can’t the Saints get a chance to defend themselves? What idiot counted the 50,000 pages? McCarthyism!!!!!

  81. ctimesthr33 says: Mar 31, 2012 5:58 PM

    To all those who want to wait and see the evidence, didn’t you read about the e-mail the DC sent to Paytoan claiming $5000 for rodgers?

  82. irongrid says: Mar 31, 2012 6:47 PM

    Things are not always what they seem? De will not want to be set up by the league? Who’s responsibility-liability to police the players? Much maneuvering for the trial “Concussion Lawsuit”?

  83. Deb says: Mar 31, 2012 7:27 PM

    kimtrouard says:
    Mar 31, 2012 2:24 AM
    steelers4385 says: Mar 30, 2012 6:11 PM

    Ohh my god. This team was out getting paid to end players careers basiclly. Stop whining. Stop crying. I love james harrison but even myself.. I dont like cheap shots. Youre whole freakn team was doing it. You got caught, lied about it numerous times…. Then Got caught again and now its to harsh of a punishment? I mean get a grip. There is nothing any of you hillbilly redneck dirty new orlean saints fans can say to make any reasonable argument that it was right in any way what so ever. If your orginization wasnt so stupid and mabye pay youre elite qb the money he deserves there might be a tad bit of respect left. But after this whole bounty thing there is none left on my part. I hope cam newton slaps your pathetic city up this year.
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    and everyone in nola hopes your mother has a date with roethlisberger.

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    Those of us who are literate enough to read police reports wouldn’t be worried about his mother. But we understand what you’re saying there–and what it makes you. Your coach took money from a felon to bypass the salary cap and run an illegal bounty program aimed at knocking players out of the game. And while I might have sympathy for some of your fans, you’re clearly a bottom-feeder who deserve what you get. Sadly, that was much more than Payton’s one-year suspension.

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