Comments on: Gil Brandt expects Osweiler to be first-round pick

By: chawk12thman

chawk12thman — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:28:10 +0000

rajbais says:
Mar 30, 2012 5:52 PM
I heard it too.

I tweeted with NFL analyst Matt Miller and he told me that he expected Osweiler to go Seattle at #19 before Matt Flynn signed there.

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Hawks pick at 12, so without a trade down with Chicago, I doubt they get him at #19.

By: cantonbound13

cantonbound13 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:16:01 +0000

That’s all good but Jeff Ireland would like to know if he has in any way been associated with a prostitute. We have a very strict screening process in Miami, winning is not as important as having good character players.

By: 49erstim

49erstim — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:56:21 +0000

If you look at the ebb and flow of info about QBs and how its distributed timewise you’ll see this pattern and I’ll use this year as an example.

Andrew luck and then everybody else.
Andrew luck and Robert Griffin III and everybody else.
Luck, RG3, Ryan Tannehill and everybody elsr.
Luck, RG3, RT, Brock and everybody else.

Telling the future in 3…2…1..

Luck, Griffin, Tannehill, Osweiller, WHEEDEN and everybody else.

It takes this form because A) pundits gravitate to sexy picks and B) They love their own unique brand of BS. I’m sure Brock will be a serviceable QB, but as of now he is not a 1st rounder. Sorry “experts” but you sang JaMarkus Russells song to the heavens. You cannot be trusted!

By: teddybayer123

teddybayer123 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:32:04 +0000

says:
Mar 30, 2012 5:20 PM
Gil Brandt’s voice puts me to sleep, and I
don’t mean that in a good way.

Really? And that makes Randy friggin’
Cross, what, a tenor? Mr. Brandt has expertise.
He’s one of the bad guys in “North Dallas Forty”.
Change the channel, moron. In the meantime, the rest
of us will listen and learn.

By: bigbalz

bigbalz — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:31:05 +0000

Regardless of whether you believe this kid is a 1st rder. or not, he’ll probably get picked late in rd. 1 or early 2nd. Teams are desperate for QB’s with talent even if they haven’t proved it in college. Thats why Kurk Cousins, Nick Foles, and Weeden will all go early too. None of which are worthy of early picks, but teams will reach bigtime to get them. Weeden would be worth it if he wasn’t 67 yrs. old already.

By: muckfodell

muckfodell — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:26:28 +0000

As a Browns’ fan, I would rather take a shot on this guy later and pass on Tannehill at 4. They are both projects, right?

Why not just take the sure thing (Richardson or Claiborne) at 4 and get your future QB later.

By: briang123

briang123 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 02:43:30 +0000

I saw every snap he played for my alma mater. I was stunned when he came out. All year I told my boys this guy needs one more year and he might just play himself into the first round. I’m guessing ASU hiring that clown of a coach forced Osweiler’s hand. A real shame if you ask me. He’s a good kid.

By: geo1113

geo1113 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:43:48 +0000

When you look down the list of Super Bowl winning QBs, you see why teams are willing to take a chance. Inadequate QB = No chance at a Super Bowl.

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:43:20 +0000

The guy isn’t even the best QB prospect in AZ. Foles is.

By: tigerphins

tigerphins — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:34:59 +0000

I feel like I’m watching an ad for the new Fiat.

Hope Brandt’s commission on this deal is worth his reputation.

By: jackm79

jackm79 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:34:56 +0000

Gil Brandt IS the NFL. Anyone on here who bashes him is a complete idiot. Remember when he said Tyson Jackson would be a top 5 pick a couple of years ago? People said he was senile, crazy, and had lost it. Jackson went in the top 5. He knows every personell man in the league. He must know something or he wouldn’t have said this.

This kid will go in the first round. Guaranteed.

By: eazye76

eazye76 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:33:02 +0000

I wonder if it’s a coincidence that Gil Brandt said this four hours before Osweiler appeared on his radio show…

By: backtothebowl

backtothebowl — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:07:29 +0000

GIl, Gil, Gil….Take your Aricept.

By: thatguywhoisactuallyamiamisportsfan

thatguywhoisactuallyamiamisportsfan — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:50:56 +0000

Can’t wait to see the Jeff Ireland panic when Tannehill gets taken before 8 and the Dolphins pick him in the 1st round. Welcome to Miami, Brock!!! =(

By: zonedogz

zonedogz — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:37:14 +0000

Is he kidding? BUST!

By: andyreidisfat

andyreidisfat — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:55:14 +0000

Yeah that Gil Brandt, he’s only been doing this his whole life, I am sure all of you know more than he does. Clearly your ability to type crap on a worthless football site makes you much more credible…….

By: vtsquirm

vtsquirm — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:50:59 +0000

does this mean Weeden is going in the first round too? Because he’s supposed to be better than Osweiler…

Last year was nuts with all the QBs taken in the first 10-15 picks. Can’t wait to tune in this year.

By: howiehandles

howiehandles — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:45:36 +0000

These pro day evaluations mean squat. I put even less stock in these than the combine. Game tape baby….although I understand why they do their due diligence.

By: tackleberries

tackleberries — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:39:32 +0000

ASU fan. No way he should be a 1st rounder. Don’t see what to like at all honestly, except maybe size.

By: klunge

klunge — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:29:07 +0000

That would be fantastic. The more QBs taken before pick 23, the better for the Lions to get defensive talent or O-line!

By: lostsok

lostsok — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:24:12 +0000

Boise State ate this kid for lunch. Granted, they are a very good team and the ASU coaching staff basically sent that poor team out uncoached, but still…he looked just awful.

Wish him the best, but I just don’t see it…

By: uscfan1988

uscfan1988 — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:19:02 +0000

I like Osweiler but he is not a first round quarterback he is RAW…. You have to fix his release, clean up his footwork, teach him the offense, and then get him mentally prepared for the nfl speed. IMO he can be a starter if he plays nothing but preseason for 3 years. He has talent but a first round qb has to play year one or year two these days.

By: 4evrnyt

4evrnyt — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:05:55 +0000

Gil Brandt is a living legend in this sport and deserves as much if not more respect then anyone else currently involved in the NFL.

With that said, his days of being a competent talent scout are long behind him.

By: riverhorsey

riverhorsey — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:53:21 +0000

why would brandt say that? someone has to be paying him to say it or he has another vested interest in the guy.

I’ve seem him play and no way is he first round.

By: jeff d.

jeff d. — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:04:58 +0000

Maybe we should go back to the days of old when we graded QB’s on how they played on the field instead of how they look at a combine with no defense, no pads, etc.

If you did that – this kid is AT BEST a late round pick.

By: babyhorsemorgan

babyhorsemorgan — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:00:24 +0000

Osweiler is a year younger than Griffin. He has a much higher NFL draft board rating now than Griffin did a year ago. That is why Brock came out and RG stayed an extra year.

By: nineroutsider

nineroutsider — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:59:43 +0000

Being a Pac-12 fan, I saw a lot of Osweiler; he may be good on an empty field at a pro-day, but he isn’t that great in actual games. He looks the part, but he sure doesn’t play like a top 5 QB pick.

He has developmental value, but 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rounds…no way. He’s a nice 5th or 6th round pick.

By: KIR

KIR — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:57:29 +0000

QB’s are over drafted and RB’s are under drafted. If there was a redraft, I could name aprox 16 to 18 RB’s that would be taken in the 1st round and not by TV analyst I’m talking by actual NFL GM’s. This tells me that that just because a player was not drafted in the 1st round doesn’t mean he SHOULDN’T have been drafted in the 1st round.

GM’s need to get a clue instead of wasting 1st round picks on a lot of guys who are not going to contribute much if anything to the team.

By: babyhorsemorgan

babyhorsemorgan — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:56:53 +0000

@trbowman – Gil was one of the first to give Newton top QB status last year. I thought Newt was your guy. Or has it just been since then that Gil lost his touch?

By: irishnativeson

irishnativeson — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:55:27 +0000

Not many guys going both ways, offense and defense anymore. That means all the BS about running backs being taken in later rounds because of value and quarterbacks being a premium is just that, BS. Three phases of the game, offense, you gotta score points to win the game, defense, if you stop them and get some yourself you win, special teams, they can help both sides of the ball. About forty guys see some pt but how many make it count? It starts in the trenches, if you don’t have big nasties on both sides of the ball you get pushed around and can’t execute the game plan. Sure it’s great to find a gem in the later rounds or an undrafted free agent but what does that say about the scouting when your higher draft picks don’t help your team and your counting on walkon’s to make the pro bowl? Throw the “conventional wisdom” out the window and get back to fundamentals, play full speed, know your assignment, block and tackle, it ain’t rocket surgery.