Comments on: Minnesota governor “mystified” by stadium hurdles

By: purplepridehasadownside

purplepridehasadownside — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:34:40 +0000

Fed up with the whole thing….Turn out the lights when you leave.

By: toolkien

toolkien — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:46:35 +0000

I would love to see Wisconsin have to battle over the same situation.
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Why don’t you google Bob Harlan Lambeau Renovation Tax and learn a thing or two. Renovating Lambeau went through pretty much EXACTLY the same thing Minnesota is going through now. Bob Harlan nearly killed himself LITERALLY working so hard for a year to get the funds for renovation. I disagree with the underlying principal, but have grudging respect for Harlan nonetheless.

But then again I wouldn’t expect a socialist to now what he’s talking about, accustomed to pulling objects from his ***.

By: toolkien

toolkien — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:38:43 +0000

What mystifies me is politicians who have long ago forgotten the reason we have governments in the first place is to protect life and property from harm. The fact that government has now gotten into pull tab gaming TO DO ANYTHING is mystifying. Why the government, which produces nothing, insists on pushing buttons and pulling levers to interfere in economic activities and netting ZERO. All the government can do is use Force to push resources here or there, and that then depends on who has access to it. No access, you’re likely a subsidisor, not a subsidisee. All the proponents for taxpayer subsidized arenas and tout all the money that is generated fail to realize that it is money that would be spent on other things, creating economic activity elsewhere. It is only concentrated here or there by Force. Pointing out the X millions of dollars due to the stadium is usually neglects to point out where that X millions of dollars would have been – dispersed over the rest of the economy meeting wants and needs. Taxpayer support assigned by politicians merely forces a group of people to subsidize the leisure pursuits by others.

By: mediasloppy

mediasloppy — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:36:25 +0000

Don’t forget they also tried to pass the “Stand Your Ground” and voter suppression laws.

By: sportmentary

sportmentary — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:59:57 +0000

Lets not forget that Zellers and his party have been trying to do one thing and one thing only since they got into office and that’s enact anti-gay legislation. It doesn’t matter that 1,00’0s of Minnesotans are out of work and that should be the top priority. The only bill that matters in their minds is ensuring that gays will never marry.

By: rabbdogg

rabbdogg — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:06:05 +0000

minnesota vikings-nfl team*

By: thankheavenfornumberseven

thankheavenfornumberseven — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:44 +0000

cashisking4life says:Mar 31, 2012 4:58 AM

The one thing that you’re all missing is that the pull tab money goes to fund things such as multiple seroroois research and other important things that most people don’t know about.
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I must admit I had never heard about multiple seroroois research.

By: mediasloppy

mediasloppy — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:35:54 +0000

I love these Packer trolls who are Lucky enough to have a situation that entitles a populous into the owners of their Stadium.

I would love to see Wisconsin have to battle over the same situation. Things are messed up everywhere and any Wisconsinite should shut-up until they clean up their own mess and Scot Walker.

As to the gb4mn and his welfare comments he’ll be happy to know the neocons just passed some bills to strip tax refund money from the working poor, the elderly and disabled to invest into Corporations…

By: randomjim

randomjim — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:29:49 +0000

bobgb2000 says:
Mar 31, 2012 5:38 AM
When your state is hurting for money and alot of people out of work a billionaire wants you the people to fund his private toy……… Our team is owned by the city and has no billionaire owner and we have SUPER BOWL wins to show for it. So Go Away PACKERS…………………………………..
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So bob when is Wisconsin going to pay back it’s loan to Minesota?

You can stand there & stare proudly at your $200 dollar piece of ownership paper in it’s $2 Wallmart frame. Good for you.

By: 86chawk

86chawk — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:16:59 +0000

Anytime you have politics involved in any decision making it is going to be screwed up. All they care about is themselves. I live in Arizona and what they did here was charge a .01% hospitality tax on hotels and restaurants for the states part of the stadium (which was paid mostly by traveling out of staters). The Cardinals stadium was paid off 4 years ahead of time and the area around it is absolutely amazing and has created at least 2000+ permanate jobs with all the bars, restaurants, hotels, stores, ect. The state of Minnesota better get their act together and get this done or they will lose out on MILLIONS of tax revenue from the Vikings just in player taxes, a for sure Super Bowl with a new stadium, NCAA Final Fours, Possible Bowl games, ect ect ect. This is a no-brainer for the state and it’s people. It’s the old saying don’t know what you got til it’s gone. GET THIS DONE MINNESOTA!!!!!

By: bobnelsonjr

bobnelsonjr — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:00:41 +0000

Why replace a 64,000 seat stadium with a 65,000 seat stadium at the exact same location for 2 billion dollars right after the roof and turf have been replaced?

Why would a renter tell his landlord because the lease expired he expects the landlord to tear down the current building (with a new roof and carpeting) and replace it with a building the same size and then the renter will continue to rent.

The renter should buy his own housing, move to another rental, or sign a new lease and not demand a new building.

The vikings have never been successful at anything. They have never won a championship and don’t have any trophies, not even a George Halas trophy.

What do you do with a franchise too incompetent to move and too incompetent to get a stadium?

By: petedutcher

petedutcher — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:17:35 +0000

The NFL should notify the state that if they do not work out a stadium deal soon, they will force the Vikings to move. Right now, that’s the only power the Vikings have.

By: das14

das14 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:12:08 +0000

Minnesota. Heh. What do you expect from a state that has one lane going into MPLS, through a tunnel.

By: captaintriumph

captaintriumph — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:01:50 +0000

By the way, the last Super Bowl the packers won was total luck. Fact: they lucked into a 3-way-tiebreak to get into the playoffs. Then Akers form Philly forget how to kick because his kid was in the hospital. So it was total luck. Favre & the Vikings, on the other hand, deserved the Super Bowl 2 years ago. Best record, best team….but the refs cheated them out of it. packer fans coming on this thread to talk Super Bowls is totally classless. Plus really nothing to brag about when you look at the facts.

By: captaintriumph

captaintriumph — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:56:29 +0000

Oh please, don’t come on here with that liberal nonsense. This is the ONE issue that over the years has not been Dem vs Rep – it’s been a pretty even mix.

By: captaintriumph

captaintriumph — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:53:15 +0000

There are a lot of packer fans that come on here with screen-names pretending to be Vikings fans. Then they talk nonsense. Just so you know…I CaptainTriumph, will always tell you like it is. First off, the stadium WILL be built. That has never been in any doubt, despite all the nonsense talk. Secondly, it will be a fantastic stadium, better than that old dump across the east border. Lastly, Favre & the Vikings deserved to win the Super Bowl 2 years ago – they were cheated out of it by the refs. Not just the late un-flagged hits, but also 5 terrible cheating calls in overtime. It’s better to deserve a Super Bowl than to luck-into it like some teams.

By: vikefan

vikefan — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:03:11 +0000

all i know is if Kurt Zellers does not allow this to get done then he BETTER b voted out this fall by rest of state along with all the tribes in his back pockets

BTW, this is the same party that voted to steal $$$ from schools, teachers, school districts, & their state tax funds just to be able to balance the budget last summer to start the state shutdown which Dayton did not want to give in on, all in the name of not raising taxes on the richest 1%.

By: 1historian

1historian — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:25:01 +0000

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – The Patriots play in a privately financed stadium.

By: packercpa

packercpa — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:10:39 +0000

duece5,

Maybe you should look at some facts. Where the stadium is going there will not be much economic development. Not many new restaurants going up there. Besides for every new one going in, someone else will be going out of business. You can only spread the entertainment dollar around so much.

You must also keep forgetting that the money from the pulltabs is only about $ 30 or 40 million short from what most experts say can actually be raised. So the people of MN will have that additional burden to pick-up.

I don’t think the legislature is as “Dizzy or mystified” as our governor. He is the one that is an idiot. How he got elected is still a mystery to me.

By: staffordsyear

staffordsyear — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:53 +0000

They should fix their driving laws too.

By: danetow

danetow — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:00:07 +0000

“This won’t get done until after the elections.” Words spoken to me after I talked to a member of the city council last week.

By: bobgb2000

bobgb2000 — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:38:49 +0000

When it comes down to it, why support the biggest bunch of looooooooooooosers in pro sports. When your state is hurting for money and alot of people out of work a billionaire wants you the people to fund his private toy. I know which way I would vote on this. Our team is owned by the city and has no billionaire owner and we have SUPER BOWL wins to show for it. So Go PACKERS…………………………………..

By: cashisking4life

cashisking4life — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:58:07 +0000

The Vikings couldn’t even fill the metrodome so let them pay to share tcf field or shut up and stay at metrodome. Maybe they could pay target field to use it, like how the raiders play in the Oakland baseball field. The one thing that you’re all missing is that the pull tab money goes to fund things such as multiple seroroois research and other important things that most people don’t know about. A new Vikings stadium wouldn’t create any new jobs or any more interest than we have now. Hence the Vikings are already there. You would have to move them to a new area to create new jobs. What people don’t get is that yeah we lost the northstars, but it wasn’t cause nobody wanted to go to the games. It was because nobody wanted to pay too much money to see it. Tickets are expensive. Hell look at the high school hockey tournaments that have sell outs and inexpensive ticket prices. If red mccombs was the owner, he’d already have a new field. He put winning teams together that were excitin to watch. He increased the vikes worth. What has zygi done other than reverse their image, and worth

By: crabboil

crabboil — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:12:29 +0000

Perhaps the people of Minnesota should whine and “thumbs down” more. It hasn’t worked before, but maybe if they ramped it up…

By: buhbay1c

buhbay1c — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:08:41 +0000

Hey gb4mn0, just wanted to show you the finally tally of likes on the last Packer thread I commented on. People from your own allegiance really don’t like or respect you. HAHAHA!

buhbay1c says: Mar 29, 2012 4:03 PM

gb4mn0 says:
Mar 29, 2012 3:36 PM
It would be the happiest day of my life if Hargrove puts a season ending hit on Christine Pondexter. The noodle brained vikequeef toads would soil their pants in a fit of rage.

You do realize your own fan base thinks your a giant douche right? Happy to see someone’s livelihood taken away for a year. What if your pimp beat you so bad you couldn’t work your corner anymore. That wouldn’t bring me any joy.

By: clintonportisheadd

clintonportisheadd — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:58:38 +0000

Public opinion hasn’t changed.

A billionaire named Wilf wants a taxpayer handout for a private business while the state is broke, bridges fall down ,infrastructure collapses’, and the textbooks are so old they refer to WWII as a “toss up”

The public never did, never has, nor never will accept it. Nor should they.

By: greatminnesotasportsmind

greatminnesotasportsmind — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:39:01 +0000

The Wilf’s need to finally give in and use that relocation word. Then something might get done… Or might not, it is Minnesota after all.

By: ivibaileyivi

ivibaileyivi — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:31:25 +0000

As a big time Vikes fan i want to say Gerby i love hearing you on K-fan and posting on PFT. Terrible, terrible terrible!! Your Packers are 15-1 and DONE!! the lousey 9-7 Giants embarresed your team in the playoffs. That was almost as good as the Vikes making the playoffs seeing you and Randy crying at that Divisional playoff game!! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! like you would say. Come on the show more i enjoy hearing you Gerby.

By: thankheavenfornumberseven

thankheavenfornumberseven — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 04:24:05 +0000

@ Carl -

Gambling ruins families. Unless it’s paying for my stadium.

@ sportmentary -

My opinion is based on what I heard from Lester Bagley.

By: thepgx

thepgx — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 04:13:17 +0000

It’s funny how all the buttPacker fans follow Vikings news so closely. Every time I read an article, there you are with ANOTHER pathetic comment. You must really bleed Purple. Now go back to your cheese filled dumpster and shut the hell up!