We sometimes disagree. However, yours is a brilliant post.

Go Lions! Go Badgers!

It’s not a loophole. They’re fulfilling the requirement of interviewing a minority coach for the position. I understand why this is worthy of reporting, but I don’t understand why you feel compelled to make a bigger issue out of it than it really is.

I agree, but not so much on the future health of the rule. What do you think about the way the spirit of the rule is being disregarded so that the Saints don’t have to exactly follow it, like I’m thinking any other team right now that’s looking for a head coach, interim or otherwise, would?

I think they just installed a neatly packaged, subtle change, (ala Goodell’s looking the other way), and the Rooney Rule will be much more open to shenanigans going forward, with everyone looking the other way.

As a caucasian man who was raised in the deep south in the late 50′s and early 60′s, and who lives here still, I know a racist when I see one. Hell, David Duke, the former head of the Klan almost won the governship of my home state, and he’s only a moderate republican. Due to 400 years of repression based on bigotry and hate, some rules have been put in place to try, inch by inch, to act as a counterbalance. The Rooney Rule is one of them.

Now what we have is a fundamental talking point from sources like Faux News that goes like this: if you are a racist and are confronted with rules that restrict your racism, then scream that the rules themselves are racist.

“Do the Saints have any black assistant coaches?”

“Oh, look! There’s one!”

*writes article*

Are you kidding? The Rooney rule is not “affirmative action.” It’s designed to at least give minorities a look, and then the team hires the best fit for their team.

It sure worked properly in Pittsburgh, Tampa, Indy, Chicago, K.C., etc.

Stop it!
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Your examples are baseless, as Tomlin, Morris, Dungy/Caldwell, Smith, Crennel, and 2010 Singletary were all first choices with their respective teams. The question is whether they were required to interview a white coach as well. The Rooney rule claims to promote diversity, but if it does not require a minority candidate and a non-minority (white) candidate to be interviewed, then the only segment of the population that stands to benefit from the rule is minorities, thus making it most definitely “affirmative action”.

Obviously it would be silly to force teams to interview white coaches under the Rooney rule, but that just shows that the rule absolutely is “Affirmative Action”, as it has no benefit or bearing for a large segment of the population.

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There is a Rooney rule for Players it’s called college football and the draft. Teams watch film, put players through physical tests, and determine who to pick. The very nature of the NFL forces every team to put ALL players through this to figure out who they think the best are.

If the teams had a process like this for every assistant coach, then the Rooney rule wouldn’t exist.

Will it ever end?

This goes to once again prove that the punishment for ‘bountygate’ should have been a complete dismantling of the New Orleans franchise. A player/coach dispersal draft would have exiled the guilty to a defunct career ending. The SuperDome would have been torn down. All written mention of a team named the Saints would have been removed from NFL history. Any conversation of a Saint’s football team in public would be deemed illegal by Congress. It would be like the Saints never existed.

Instead of “Who Dat”, it would be “Where Dat.”

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This is just the sort of comment that fans of losing franchises would make (Vikings, anyone?).

I’ve said it before, but MF deemed the comment delete-able, so I’ll try it again because people like woodyg need to read over and over again how stupid their thinking is.

Don’t stop with putting people in jail for speaking the name of the franchise. Light torches, carry pitch forks and drag each and every Saint from their beds. Lynch ‘em.

Wait, wait. While you’re in New Orleans torch the city too (probably not before you enjoy our hospitality, culture and stuff your face with our outstanding food). Then, mow down all the fans and insist upon the dividing up of the Louisiana Territory with your poor losing team’s states. (I’m talking to you MN.)

Come on man.

If you weren’t racist before, things like the Rooney Rule and Spike Lee will make sure you are one when it’s all said and done…
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Translation: “I prefer not to associate with anyone who isn’t white. But that doesn’t make me a racist. Its black people talking about racial issues that makes me hate them.”

Is that about right?

Dude. Really? A rule in which a minority candidate INTERVIEWS for a job he’s not going to get bothers you that much? You do understand the rule is not a mandate for organizations to hire a black coach. It’s not for tenure or anything. It’s an INTERVIEW.

But let’s go back to the real issue here: so why DO you hate black people so much?

The “Rooney Rule” was put into effect to give minority’s an opportunity to meet ownership and for ownership to open their horizons beyond the privileged white world they live in and most likely grew up in. Without a “Rooney Rule” there is no Tomlin in Pittsburgh. You would have Whisenhunt-and most likely no Super Bowl wins in the last 5 years.

The number of blacks playing college football is about the same as pro ball. Yet Division I schools (which have no requirement to interview minorities as the NFL does) have only a handful of black head coaches. Do the math folks-whats 5 out of 120? 3 percent? The NFL has been about 20% black head coaches at any given time ONLY BECAUSE of this rule. ONLY BECAUSE of this rule did they get a shot. ONLY BECAUSE of this rule are we spared the recycling of the Dave Wannstadt’s and Steve Mariucci’s of the world.

And thats a good thing……

To sum it up-the Rooney Rule is and was a great idea and should in fact be expanded to college football as well. The Rooney Rule will be needed as long as a story like this gets so many hate speech radio Fox News watching yahoos exist. It will be needed until the murder of a black kid armed with Skittles is met with universal outrage instead of resentment that his killer be arrested.

Don’t bother with the “thumbs down”. I could care less.

How sweet.

Hey, bray72, get off your high horse and quit yer whining. If half your posts are as lame and stupid and condescending as this one was, then I’m glad the interns are nuking ‘em.

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It absolutely would apply in those situations – IF they went outside the organization. It’s already been stated that they don’t need to comply with the rule if they went internal to name an interim coach.

You can argue that the rule itself is outdated and stupid (it is), but it is being applied uniformly to both situations.