GG,
What you said about RG III is pretty much what a lot of people said about Cam Newton.

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The difference is….Newton was generally expected and predicted to bust, the majority of ‘pundits’ like us. Whereas everyone in 2012 is pretty much convinced RG3 is a certified superstar.

As some experts have noted, RG3 is like someone still in med school while Luck is already a practicing GP. When I look over Luck’s ‘versus’ videos, I really do see an NFL-caliber QB already. When I see RG3′s ‘versus’ videos I see it’s all potential, but there are a lot of areas his game will need coaching and dedication still to become NFL caliber. Those things I mentioned stand out. I can see RG3 struggling in the early going, scrambling around left and right avoiding pressure, throwing the ball into double coverage, getting picked off, fumbling trying to dance around too much, locking on too much and taking too long to read and release etc.

Not saying he WILL bust, but he will struggle to ‘get’ where Luck already is.

Casserly’s comment “The workout doesn’t change the rating on the tape.”, while making sense, certainly doesn’t seem to be the case as players like D Poe, S Hill, S Gilmore & J Robinson appear to be rising up draft boards based on their workout numbers and not game tape (oddly enough even with Moayock).

@ezpkns34 says: Mar 31, 2012 10:08 AM

“KIR says: Mar 31, 2012 9:30 AM

QB’s are over drafted and RB’s are under drafted. If there was a redraft, I could name aprox 16 to 18 RB’s that would be taken in the 1st round and not by TV analyst I’m talking by actual NFL GM’s”
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How about you simply name any year since the merger where there should have been 18 RBs taken in the first round

Needless to say, I won’t be holding my breath on this one
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REdraft means…… As in do over

Of course if there was a redraft, things would be a lot different. The Chargers would never have taken Ryan Leaf and the Raiders would never have taken JaMarcus Russell. Since you’re using RBs though, I’ll use the 2009 NFL Draft for this. I’m sure Arian Foster would have been drafted in the 1st-round based on what they’ve seen, instead he went undrafted. LeSean McCoy would have been a first-round pick too, based on his production, though he was just a 2nd-rounder. But, Knowshon Moreno and Donald Brown would most likely not be 1st round picks based on their production. The point of all of this is teams do make mistakes and they do occasionally hit the jackpot. No point in trying to change the past since it’s a done deal and can’t be fixed… And even if there were a redraft, I highly doubt 16 to 18 RBs would go in the first round because of the ridiculous talent there is at all the other positions.

If you look back a year, Gil Brandt’s assessments on the QBs were spectacularly more accurate than the internet geeks. I’ll go with Gil 10 times out of 10. All the draft dorks do is tweet and retweet each other until they all end up saying the same thing. Brandt doesn’t listen to that noise, he goes on about 60 years worth of experience.

“KIR says: Mar 31, 2012 9:30 AM

QB’s are over drafted and RB’s are under drafted. If there was a redraft, I could name aprox 16 to 18 RB’s that would be taken in the 1st round and not by TV analyst I’m talking by actual NFL GM’s”
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How about you simply name any year since the merger where there should have been 18 RBs taken in the first round

Needless to say, I won’t be holding my breath on this one
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REdraft means…… As in do over

Losman was well liked out of college, with a more extensive body of work. He started for 2 seasons, had athleticism and arm strength. While there were questions about him, he was also viewed as a possible late first/early 2nd type.

It’s easy to forget all these years later, but Ramsay was viewed as a first. A late first, but a first. He was a guy that some wondered if he would go in the mid-1st because he was clearly the number 3 QB on the board that year (behind Carr and Harrington). The Redskins were actually praised that they were able to continually move down and still end up with the guy that they targeted all along.

BRING BACK THE RB!!!

Only 3 Elite QBs Peyton, Brady, Brees… and only Peyton was a First Rounder…

Yeah, he also made the terrible decision to draft Mario Williams over Reggie Bush and Vince Young, how did that……..um, never mind.

Bellichick hates Casserly because Casserly was the first to break the story that Brady was having problems with Randy Moss (Moss was traded shortly thereafter) and that Casserly was one of the first to report rumors of spy gate, which turned out to be true.

And I’ll take Casserly’s opinion over Brandt’s. Brandt thrived in an era with no salary cap, no free agency, and the draft had SEVENTEEN ROUNDS.

Lots of room for error in old Gil’s day.

My point is, its not just the arm and physical abilities but the ability to read defenses. If you don’t have the later, your not going to succeed aka Russel.

I think RGIII is going to bust. He doesn’t go thru progressions well. Most of his throws are ‘one step’ throws/routes. First reads. But when a play consists of longer developing routes, especially with several options, he doesn’t go thru them quick enough, locks on too long. He’s too much of in a hurry to scramble about once a first read breaks down otherwise. In a pro-style offense, he will struggle. He has a great arm and touch I will give him that.