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NFLPA has had open invitation to review bounty info since March 2

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Friday’s comments from NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, who criticized the NFL’s failure to share information regarding the Saints’ bounty investigation, coupled with reports of the league’s response created the impression that the league previously hadn’t shown a willingness to give the union anything more than a pair of confidential reports.

A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that, in reality, the NFLPA has had an open invitation to review additional information at the league offices in Manhattan since March 2, the day the NFL disclosed the existence of the bounty system.

Likewise, we’re told that a letter was sent by the league to the NFLPA on Friday, reminding the union of the information it has received and reiterating the willingness to share more information at the league office. The letter also pointed out that the Commissioner has requested the union’s position regarding the situation on numerous occasions, but that the NFL has heard nothing in response.

The letter again invites the NFLPA to provide any thoughts or recommendations.

The union possibly has deferred comment on the situation until it has a chance to obtain more information.  The NFLPA is in a tight situation on this one, balancing its obligation to protect both the alleged participants in the bounty system and the targets of the bounty system.  It’s possible that the union will eventually contend that the players who participated were coerced by their coaches, making both the player-participants and the player-targets the victims.

Frankly, any other argument would make it hard for the NFLPA to aggressively and properly represent the interests of both ends of the bounty spectrum.

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32 Responses to “NFLPA has had open invitation to review bounty info since March 2”
  1. sportmentary says: Mar 31, 2012 9:42 PM

    In my opinion the NFLPA is an organization that defends illegal and unethical behavior. They have zero credibility in my mind. They’re a bunch of punks.

  2. khuxford says: Mar 31, 2012 9:43 PM

    Why, exactly, should the NFLPA have to physically travel to the NFL’s offices in order to see this information in this day and age?

  3. hwentworth says: Mar 31, 2012 9:44 PM

    De Smith gets his new contract, immediately slacks off. Classic union.

  4. kronix7 says: Mar 31, 2012 9:56 PM

    Anybody have a brown paperbag I can give to an aints fan?

  5. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Mar 31, 2012 10:16 PM

    What will Shawn Payton tell the union members?

    Well guys, um, just because we paid our guys to end you career, well, you know I love you guys and that’s why I’m on the NFLPA Executive Committee. We’re here for you.

    Should go over really well, eh?

  6. slobmykolb says: Mar 31, 2012 10:17 PM

    sportmentary
    Mar 31, 2012, 9:42 PM EDT
    In my opinion the NFLPA is an organization that defends illegal and unethical behavior. They have zero credibility in my mind. They’re a bunch of punks.

    Well said! I am all for the athletes in most cases but it always seems the NFLPA is always trying to defend scumbags that shouldn’t be defended. Don’t get me wrong I know one of the most important jobs of a union is to protect its employees but when said employees are committing actual crimes they don’t deserve to get preferential treatment and should have to man up and face the consequences!

  7. mjkelly77 says: Mar 31, 2012 10:20 PM

    The NFLPA needs to agree to HGH testing. I’d like to see Congress step in and put those punks out of work.

  8. mjkelly77 says: Mar 31, 2012 10:22 PM

    khuxford says:Mar 31, 2012 9:43 PM

    Why, exactly, should the NFLPA have to physically travel to the NFL’s offices in order to see this information in this day and age?
    ______________________

    Because if Maurice gets his hands on an uncontrolled copy every player in the NFL will have one.

  9. phillyphever says: Mar 31, 2012 10:36 PM

    How long until Smith gets kicked out of the NFLPA and Foxworth is appointed the executive director? Smith should have never had the job in the first place. That was Troy Vincent’s job waiting for him.

  10. tylerdurden187 says: Mar 31, 2012 10:39 PM

    Yes, Why is it that the NFLPA always looks to deceive the public?

  11. jagerbmb says: Mar 31, 2012 10:55 PM

    I guess Goodell hasn’t offered De Smith enough salary cap space yet in order to get their support.

  12. txxxchief says: Mar 31, 2012 11:08 PM

    Asking the NFLPA to investigate boutygate is like asking Al Capone to investigate bootlegging.

  13. finsfrontofficeisajoke says: Mar 31, 2012 11:12 PM

    The folks crying foul about unions defending scumbags are preaching to the choir over here, but the most basic function of a union is to protect every paying member the same. Failure to do this results in a lawsuit. DeMo doesn’t have a choice in this situation if he wants to avoid a blatant dereliction of duty and the litigation that would surely follow. The union is going to have to argue that the players were only following orders, and it will probably grant AT LEAST a reduction in sentence, if not reversal.

    Unfortunately, that’s one of the downsides of a union labor force. No matter how awesome you are (or aren’t, as in this case), you’re all treated the same, or someone gets sued.

  14. GG Eden says: Mar 31, 2012 11:19 PM

    I’ve never seen an ‘organization’ run as poorly as the NFLPA. DeMaurice Smith single-handedly has turned into a farce. So poorly managed, considering how D.Smith entered into it, talking tough, standing tough against the NFL, etc. There’s so much I could specifically point out, but it would take too long.

  15. daknight93 says: Mar 31, 2012 11:19 PM

    the league ran by goodell is not good for the players…he has never played the game and he has no interest in their concerns…goodell works for the owners…don’t expect the league to cooperate with demaurice smith…goodell used saints as scapegoat…end of story.

  16. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 31, 2012 11:46 PM

    NFLPA just wants to collect union dues on all the bounty money earned. So they can continue to overpay their staff in the manner they’ve become accustomed.

  17. hauts81 says: Mar 31, 2012 11:54 PM

    The union is just dragging its feet like it has with the HGH testing.

  18. letmesetyoustraight says: Apr 1, 2012 1:04 AM

    “Because if Maurice gets his hands on an uncontrolled copy every player in the NFL will have one.”

    Why shouldn’t everybody have access to the info? Is there some reason it should not be made public to all?

  19. paulienuts says: Apr 1, 2012 1:16 AM

    sportmentary says: Mar 31, 2012 9:42 PM

    In my opinion the NFLPA is an organization that defends illegal and unethical behavior. They have zero credibility in my mind. They’re a bunch of punks.

    ________________________________

    Yeah, that’s right. A bunch of punks led by Executive Director DeMaurice Smith. Let’s see what his accomplishments are.

    United States Attorney Generals’ Award

    John Evans Trial Advocacy Award from the United States Attorney’s Association

    Smith chaired the Patton Boggs government investigations and white-collar practice group.

    While at the Department of Justice, Smith was responsible for the development of business and strategic plans for prison construction.

    Board of Governors of the D.C. Bar Association

    Former president of the Assistant United States Attorney’s Association

    Board of Directors of the Good Samaritan Foundation, which assists inner city youth in Washington D.C. in school and with job opportunities.

    Yeah, you’re right. He DOES sound like a punk. Now let’s see what Goodell’s accomplishments are.

    He was a captain of his HS football team. From 1982 – 2001 he logged hours in middle management in the NFL.

    Good thing you pointed out what punks those NFLPA folks are, because you couldn’t tell by their credentials.

  20. rabbdogg says: Apr 1, 2012 2:02 AM

    why is goodell’s word any better than others?

  21. grannyvi4 says: Apr 1, 2012 2:26 AM

    Raise your hand if you’re surprised that De Smith wasn’t entirely truthful. Wow. Always thought he was scum, now he confirmed it.

    I’m not a union basher because I know it has its place in the workforce to protect their members from over-bearing and unfair labor practices. However, they’ve gone way beyond that (not just in the NFL) when they take the position that none of their members are ever guilty of anything, and in fact, are always victims.

    Personally, I don’t see any reason the NFLPA should be involved in recommending any punishment. After the punishments have been handed down, then it can get involved in appealing those punishments on behalf of the players. That’s like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

  22. crabboil says: Apr 1, 2012 4:37 AM

    Again… The NFL says you can see some information. Let us see ALL of the information.

  23. crabboil says: Apr 1, 2012 4:43 AM

    Because if Maurice gets his hands on an uncontrolled copy every player in the NFL will have one.

    Why shouldn’t everyone have a copy of the evidence? Would you like to be persecuted based on evidence you weren’t allowed to see?

  24. joetoronto says: Apr 1, 2012 6:59 AM

    All unions are alike, they’re good for the worst employees and bad for the good ones.

    There’s no p;lace for unions anymore on this side of the world.

  25. seenoland54 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:16 AM

    The NFLPA has already made their knee-jerk decision and can’t be bothered with any facts getting in the way of it.

  26. macbull says: Apr 1, 2012 7:25 AM

    OK PFT…which is it…has “all” the information been available to the NFLPA since March 2nd …or not?

    On 3-31-12, 1:32Pm…PFT writes, “NFL willing to give more bounty info to union”

    On 3-31-12, 9:36 PM…PFT writes “NFLPA has had open invitation to review bounty info since March 2″

    Sounds like the commissioner’s office is playing some kind of word game here, attempting to paint themselves in a “brighter light” than they deserve.

    Did the commissioner’s office provide “ALL” bounty investigation information to the NFLPA since March 2nd…OR NOT?

  27. desertspin says: Apr 1, 2012 7:46 AM

    So it boils down to the union is riding the fence. No kahunas.

    Wasn’t a big fan of Goodell during the lockout last year, but D Smith appeared pretty arrogant & full of himself. Now he’s making another power play with his unwillingness to go to the league office & review the evidence. GROW UP.

  28. jackntorres says: Apr 1, 2012 8:12 AM

    mjkelly77 says: Mar 31, 2012 10:22 PM

    khuxford says:Mar 31, 2012 9:43 PM

    Why, exactly, should the NFLPA have to physically travel to the NFL’s offices in order to see this information in this day and age?
    ______________________

    Because if Maurice gets his hands on an uncontrolled copy every player in the NFL will have one.

    —-
    And that is bad because then everyone will know the truth! Oh the horror.

    What are you people on anyways?

  29. jackntorres says: Apr 1, 2012 8:14 AM

    kronix7 says: Mar 31, 2012 9:56 PM

    Anybody have a brown paperbag I can give to an aints fan?

    —-

    Sorry Atlanta snatched em all up after they scored TWO points in a PLAYOFF game. And it just so happened to be against the same team which the Saints put up 49 against.

  30. jackntorres says: Apr 1, 2012 8:16 AM

    palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Mar 31, 2012 10:16 PM

    What will Shawn Payton tell the union members?

    Well guys, um, just because we paid our guys to end you career, well, you know I love you guys and that’s why I’m on the NFLPA Executive Committee. We’re here for you.

    Should go over really well, eh?


    Maybe you should move to North Korea. How can Sean Payton (you’d think after 1,000 articles you could spell his name correctly) be on the NFLPA Executive Committee when he isn’t even in the NFLPA? He’s a coach not a player!

    The sad part is you still have more thumbs up than thumbs down because people come here just to hate on the Saints, regardless of logic and coherency.

  31. deathtoromo says: Apr 1, 2012 9:32 AM

    A millionaires union. What a slap in the face to the working people of this country. Unions, go away now.

  32. preventoffense says: Apr 1, 2012 10:16 AM

    paulienuts says: (A list of puffery awards for DeMaurice Smith)
    ____________________________

    I know many defense and prosecutorial lawyers who have worked in the trenches of litigation for decades because the love what they do. They laugh at anyone with more the a couple of such titles or awards because they’ve seen individuals spend more time pursuing them then actually producing any work.

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