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In-house Saints candidates not thrilled with possible appearance by Parcells

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With the tea leaves continuing to point toward former Giants, Patriots, Jets, and Cowboys coach Bill Parcells coming out of retirement for a one-shot opportunity to win a walk-off Super Bowl and cement his Hall of Fame legacy, not much has been said about the in-house candidates for the interim head coaching job.

A league source tells PFT that the current Saints assistants who had been mentioned as potential replacements for coach Sean Payton (offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr., offensive line coach Aaron Kromer, and defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo) aren’t happy with the possibility of an outsider like Parcells swooping in and taking the job.  Carmichael, 40, joined the Saints with Payton in 2006, and Carmichael ran the offense while Payton was relegated to the booth as he recovered from a broken leg.  Kromer, 44, arrived in 2008 and also is in charge of the running game.  Spagnuolo, 52, has three years experience as a head coach, and his Rams delivered one of the three regular-season losses endured last year by the Saints.

As the source explained it, the thinking is that Parcells would simply run the press conferences and decide whether to go for it on fourth down, with Carmichael in charge of the offense and Spagnuolo in charge of the defense.  If that’s all Parcells would be doing, why do the Saints need him?

The prevailing theory in league circles continues to be that Payton wants an outsider like Parcells because Parcells wouldn’t want to stay beyond 2012, and Payton already has publicly declared that he’ll be back in 2013.  If an in-house interim head coach enjoys a high level of success in 2012, owner Tom Benson may decide to make a change.  If the Saints win the Super Bowl at the Superdome, Benson may have no other choice but to promote the interim coach into Payton’s job.

The other side of this particular coin, however, is that an outsider may be necessary in order to prevent any friction between the assistant who gets bumped up and the other two who don’t.  Indeed, a cynic may say that the three names were leaked in order to set the stage for an outsider like Parcells to be the only viable solution.

Regardless, the process by all appearances will be moving toward a conclusion soon.  Unless the Saints plan to have no head coach when offseason workouts begin on April 16, Parcells or someone else will be getting the job within the next two weeks.

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70 Responses to “In-house Saints candidates not thrilled with possible appearance by Parcells”
  1. everydayimfumbilin says: Apr 1, 2012 5:22 PM

    victorious and uplifting

  2. pacificnw7722 says: Apr 1, 2012 5:24 PM

    “If an in-house interim head coach enjoys a high level of success in 2012, owner Tom Benson may decide to make a change.”

    If that might be the case, that means they EARNED it and Benson can make that decision when the time comes.

    Keep it in-house and see what you got………….

  3. jbpanthers says: Apr 1, 2012 5:26 PM

    Nice job, Payton! Your staff members who have been waiting for a chance, and you ask Parcells to come out of retirement and coach for you. Way to have the trust of your staff!!!

  4. bsizemore68 says: Apr 1, 2012 5:26 PM

    If Bill takes this job, of course after the token interview with the hand pick yes man, he will get rid of the first asst. coach who don’t jump at his command, I think they would do best by keeping there mouth shut as long as the big tuna is in the house. Bill

  5. blacknole08 says: Apr 1, 2012 5:26 PM

    I’m sure it’s a pretty tense situation there. Parcells can be pretty intimidating if you ask me (SB rings, legacy, etc). You know everyone has to be on time and the discipline will be there. Sean Payton better hope his coaching staff doesn’t resent him when/if he comes back.

  6. jenniferxxx says: Apr 1, 2012 5:32 PM

    Let’s be honest … the Saints don’t need the Parcells circus coming to town after all that’s happened. And what a vote of ‘no confidence’ in your staff. What a slap in the face.

    This has ZERO to do with what’s good for New Orleans … and everything to do with what’s good for Sean Payton.

    The only reason Tuna is in the picture is because Sean Payton knows he’ll leave. No matter what happens he’ll leave. And that matters a lot more to him than the Saints … or the fans … or the city … or the owner.

  7. cakemixa says: Apr 1, 2012 5:32 PM

    I was wondering how long it’d take you to have a fake “source” so that you could post up a story like this.

  8. babyhorsemorgan says: Apr 1, 2012 5:33 PM

    Parcells is derisively referred to as old “Chicken Of The Sea”, around the complex.

  9. stevemdlthn says: Apr 1, 2012 5:43 PM

    Can’t wait until the season starts. All the speculation will be laid to rest. All the nay sayers, piling on and Mikey with his unbias articles can say how the refs cheated, the saints wouldn’t have won unless it was turf. Whatever your pathetic excuses are when we run through you like diarrhea

  10. chawk12thman says: Apr 1, 2012 5:46 PM

    Do it in house….If you win the SB good on you. It would be no different that a starting QB going on IR and the replacement performing as a pro bowler and winning the SB and retaining that starting spot. That’s the nature of this business. Don’t worry about Sean. Worry about the Saints.

  11. exhibits5 says: Apr 1, 2012 5:52 PM

    parcells will turn down the saints HC position

  12. mp42245 says: Apr 1, 2012 5:54 PM

    Did you make this up, or, did you really have a reliable source leak this to you. Kinda Sapp like info.

  13. dkeyser says: Apr 1, 2012 5:55 PM

    There you go with the un-named source again… and yet you BLAST Warrren Sapp for doing it..

  14. stevemdlthn says: Apr 1, 2012 5:57 PM

    I know you fans think different than Saints fans but Sean Payton is part of the Saints organization. Regardless of what you or Goodell think. It’s obivious alot of people around the league don’t want Parcells anywhere near Metarie. Think about it….. barring God overthere at the NFL offices suspending the entire defense, we will be a better team on paper and won’t miss a beat with parcells. You so called fans dread what the Saints are going to do to your team. I really can’t wait, keep running your soup coolers. Fire………. Goodell

  15. gbditka says: Apr 1, 2012 5:58 PM

    Warren Sapp knows who the “league source” is for this story but doesn’t want to “shock” anyone with the source.

  16. theonlylivingbillindundee says: Apr 1, 2012 5:58 PM

    Parcells HOF legacy? Look closely at his record. It doesn’t stand up after NE.

  17. howmanyringsyourteamgot says: Apr 1, 2012 6:02 PM

    Let’s run down the list;

    1. Possible friction among the coaching staff
    2. Player suspensions still pending
    3. Brees remains unsigned

    This has 7-9 written all over it

  18. pgui88 says: Apr 1, 2012 6:02 PM

    I doubt this article. Spags just arrived and I doubt that he would want to jump into a head coach situation and completely rework the team.

  19. juliusanonymous says: Apr 1, 2012 6:02 PM

    Payton doesn’t need to worry about the Saints winning the SuperBowl. With their recent playoff history, that’s about as likely as the Dolphins winning the SuperBowl.

  20. LoCoSu@%s says: Apr 1, 2012 6:04 PM

    This will be a disaster. Chemistry between coaches cannot be overlooked.
    Parcells is a my way or the highway type of a coach and (to paraphrase him), he will be cooking with Sean Payton’s groceries (coaching staff).
    Saints fans – mark my words – look for a losing season if this happens.

  21. ytsejamer1 says: Apr 1, 2012 6:19 PM

    Let me get this straight. One guy has said he didn’t want a head coaching gig quite yet… The other guy is lucky to be employed after his last head coaching gig went over like a fart in a space suit…and you want one of THEM to lead the Saints this year?

    Come on…hiring Parcells is perfect for Payton. He knows Bill won’t squat on the job and everything remains running until his return. Let us not also forget…Payton is a phone call away from making some organizational decisions…so he’s not going to be that far removed regardless who is in the position as HC of the NOS.

    I love Parcells…the league is a lot more interesting with him in it in some way. Bring it on. As Parcells might say, “What a stupid question!”

  22. irongrid says: Apr 1, 2012 6:23 PM

    What a farce! Who is running the organization, Payton or Benson?

  23. wayne1693 says: Apr 1, 2012 6:29 PM

    Dear PFT: The notion that Sean Payton would not be back, mentioned here and previously, given his momentous accomplishments, hard work, great relationships, loyalty, etc., on behalf of this franchise…is borderline insane under almost any scenario. You guys must have contests during the off-season to see who can come up with the most twisted, creative, entertaining narratives for “Days of our NFL Lives.”

  24. letmesetyoustraight says: Apr 1, 2012 6:34 PM

    Considering the Saints are one of the most tight-lipped teams in the league, your “source” was probably your own imagination. Benson, who loves Payton, has assured the coach he will be back next year.

  25. t3dstrik3r says: Apr 1, 2012 6:43 PM

    “As the source explained it, the thinking is that Parcells would simply run the press conferences and decide whether to go for it on fourth down, with Carmichael in charge of the offense and Spagnuolo in charge of the defense. If that’s all Parcells would be doing, why do the Saints need him?”
    ————
    Actually, Mike, it makes a lot of sense in some ways. There will be a media firestorm around the Saints for most of the year, especially in the early weeks of the season – constant questions about Bountygate and the punishment.

    Who better than Bill Parcells to stand up in front of the media after a game? A guy like Spagnolo or Kromer probably wouldn’t command the same respect (or have the same imposing reputation) with the media as The Tuna. Parcells won’t take any of the media bullshakee, he’ll tell them to go pound sand. Then he can just concentrate on the in-game decisions (more than just ‘going for it on 4th?’) and let the established staff do their work. Sounds smart to me, at least in theory. We’ll see if it works…

  26. ascensionparish says: Apr 1, 2012 6:48 PM

    LoL @ PFT. Several credible media outlets have reported for at least a week, that Kromer took his name out of the hat, and that Carmichael wanted to concentrate on offense, while Spagnuolo is in the initial stages of installing a new defense. I love that this story is based on “league source,” not a “team source.”

  27. ascensionparish says: Apr 1, 2012 6:50 PM

    juliusanonymous says:Apr 1, 2012 6:02 PM

    Payton doesn’t need to worry about the Saints winning the SuperBowl. With their recent playoff history, that’s about as likely as the Dolphins winning the SuperBowl.
    —————————————–

    Just wow. 4-2 in the last three seasons with a Super Bowl victory.

  28. jackntorres says: Apr 1, 2012 6:51 PM

    As the source explained it, the thinking is that Parcells would simply run the press conferences and decide whether to go for it on fourth down, with Carmichael in charge of the offense and Spagnuolo in charge of the defense. If that’s all Parcells would be doing, why do the Saints need him?

    —-

    Because of reporters like you and the questions they ask.

  29. stevenfbrackett says: Apr 1, 2012 6:52 PM

    Could the Saints as an organization have handled this scandal any worse than they have?

  30. chatham10 says: Apr 1, 2012 6:52 PM

    I agree with one of the posters that the arrogant Payton does not want the ass’t coaches who he hired run the team. The players may like Payton but he is showing himself to be a first class jerk

  31. hendawg21 says: Apr 1, 2012 6:55 PM

    Oh come on now, look at the cities which have hosted the Super Bowl….those cities teams were luck if they made the playoffs and even worse look at Indy last year…N.O. don’t even bother sweating it you’re not going to have any success anyway and don’t blame it on Payton being suspended etc.,

  32. saintswillwin says: Apr 1, 2012 6:56 PM

    juliusanonymous, you and the rest of the league better hope and pray that the Saints don’t get HFA in the playoffs, because they don’t lose at home!

  33. usmutts says: Apr 1, 2012 7:01 PM

    I like what Payton and Loomis have done for the Saints in winning a Super Bowl and making them perennial contenders, but what they did in the bounty program has brought shame and disgrace ( in the opinion of this long-time Saints fan ) and, more importantly, the ire of the commissioner.

    Benson should have gone to Goodell and asked to personally see the evidence. If Goodell’s allegations were actually factual ( and not one of us has yet seen any actual proof ) Benson should have immediately fired both Payton and Loomis ( Williams was already gone ), thereby earning Goodell’s respect. Throwing himself on the mercy of the court, he then should have begged Goodell to give only light punishment to Payton and Loomis, given that they had already lost their jobs. And give only the lightest punishments, or none at all, to the players, who, after all, were simply following the Williams model.

    If Benson had done this, the Saints would be in a better place today – for the upcoming season and for the future.

    Instead, Benson backed up Payton and Loomis, showing little respect for Goodell, and now he doesn’t have Payton or Loomis and has to deal with the Parcell circus just because Payton is more concerned with Payton than with his players.

  34. cannonballdookie says: Apr 1, 2012 7:04 PM

    I honestly think Parcelles is overrated and can’t relate to players anymore. Coughlin is the last of a dying breed, Parcelles can show off his past success but it was so long ago and he accomplished nothing in Dallas and when he was running the show in Miami. I’d pass.

  35. cwmorga says: Apr 1, 2012 7:06 PM

    @juliusanonymous says: Apr 1, 2012 6:02 PM

    Payton doesn’t need to worry about the Saints winning the SuperBowl. With their recent playoff history, that’s about as likely as the Dolphins winning the SuperBowl.
    ——————

    The Saints won the Super Bowl just over 2 years ago. What are you talking about? By that logic the only 2 teams with a better playoff history are Green Bay and New York.

    Listen to Herm people. “Don’t Hit Send!!!” (or submit, in this case).

  36. teal379 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:07 PM

    Why would any fan of another team be scared of Parcells taking the NOLA gig?

    Cowboys weren’t anything special with him there 34-32. Dolphins are STILL a mess from him being there as well. Last time he’d done anything of note was 1996 and that was a loss. 16 friken years ago.

  37. purp4lyfe says: Apr 1, 2012 7:13 PM

    I love lamp

  38. mark0226 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:13 PM

    Thank goodness. Another article on this topic. I was worried I might go all day without another one.

  39. mark0226 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:13 PM

    April Fools!

  40. sackbombs says: Apr 1, 2012 7:16 PM

    Pure speculation. No news here

  41. mjkelly77 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:17 PM

    As the source explained it, the thinking is that Parcells would simply run the press conferences and decide whether to go for it on fourth down, with Carmichael in charge of the offense and Spagnuolo in charge of the defense. If that’s all Parcells would be doing, why do the Saints need him?
    _________________

    If that’s all Parcells would be doing, why not me? There are thousands of fans who could do that at half the price.

  42. NFL In L.A. says: Apr 1, 2012 7:18 PM

    The Tuna is back!!!

  43. jason1980 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:19 PM

    Let’s see if we can gin up a story about Saints assistant coaches being upset about Parcells coming in as an interim coach. Wow…can we milk this story a little bit more? Haha…

  44. mjkelly77 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:24 PM

    jbpanthers says:Apr 1, 2012 5:26 PM

    Nice job, Payton! Your staff members who have been waiting for a chance, and you ask Parcells to come out of retirement and coach for you. Way to have the trust of your staff!!!
    _________________

    Caesar trusted his close friend Brutus. How’d that work out for him?

  45. letmesetyoustraight says: Apr 1, 2012 7:28 PM

    Bob Papa, Derrick Brooks and Ross Tucker on NFL Sirius Radio reported a while back that none of the assistants actually wanted the interim HC position. Different sources I guess.

  46. promickey says: Apr 1, 2012 7:29 PM

    Parcells will have to hire Bill Belichick as an assistant if he expects to win a Super Bowl. Parcells has never won anything without Belichick.

  47. scott8nj says: Apr 1, 2012 7:31 PM

    How about the possibility of the Saints doing well with an assistant at the helm, then ANOTHER team offers that coach a head coaching position for the following season. Payton, give one of these guys a chance to shine and stop worrying about your own skin.

  48. phinfan527 says: Apr 1, 2012 7:33 PM

    Cowher too busy?

  49. sinnermike says: Apr 1, 2012 7:34 PM

    Nice job jumping on an unsubstantianted rumor and running with it. Saints coaching staff is notoriously tight-lipped. The chances that this story is real, is slim.

  50. conormacleod says: Apr 1, 2012 7:44 PM

    I continue to enjoy watching this house of cards tumble. If they can finish about 6-10 this year it would be perfect.

  51. emaimo80 says: Apr 1, 2012 8:02 PM

    Please bring Jeff Ireland with you! Thanks, from every Miami dolphin fan!

  52. jimiinpa says: Apr 1, 2012 8:15 PM

    wow , jets , saints , miami. pick your poison

  53. outvoted2006 says: Apr 1, 2012 8:16 PM

    Here is the problem with this entire piece.
    It was stated very early, by multiple sources throughout the NFL and Saints organization, that the assistant coaches had “no desire to be the interim head coach” so that they could concentrate on their particular specialty during this year.
    So how exactly is THIS STORY relevant? Other than going completely against what has already been reported and trying to stir the pot for personal ratings and gain??
    Mike you should be ashamed of yourself for continually trying to brow beat the public into submission in regards to forming their own opinion about this entire fiasco that the NFL has conjured up.
    I would love to read the emails between you and Goodell, because you MUST be on his payroll.

  54. sloppydogg says: Apr 1, 2012 8:19 PM

    Finishing 6-10 truly not going to happen and to have one of the in-house coaches take over still means they would need to hire a coach.

  55. rockymtnphinfan says: Apr 1, 2012 8:22 PM

    As a long time Phin Fan let me say this………..Parcells, you suck.

  56. samapoc says: Apr 1, 2012 8:22 PM

    Another solid story about “bounties”. Who is the magic source?

  57. stevenfbrackett says: Apr 1, 2012 9:00 PM

    I have to laugh at all the people here screaming about “There you go with the rumors again!”

    Do these people not know which section they are in?

  58. kingfish4242 says: Apr 1, 2012 9:00 PM

    teal379 says:
    Apr 1, 2012 7:07 PM
    Why would any fan of another team be scared of Parcells taking the NOLA gig?

    Cowboys weren’t anything special with him there 34-32. Dolphins are STILL a mess from him being there as well. Last time he’d done anything of note was 1996 and that was a loss. 16 friken years ago.
    ———————————————–

    The last time I checked, Drew Brees wasn’t the Qb in Dallas and Miami.

  59. chandler1 says: Apr 1, 2012 9:03 PM

    The Judas team is finally getting a little of their own hell… lol

  60. mrniceinvenice says: Apr 1, 2012 9:17 PM

    As Charlie Sheen famously said… He doesn’t pay the hookers to show up, he pays them to leave. Go get ‘em Tuna.

  61. coreyg10 says: Apr 1, 2012 9:24 PM

    This gets funnier every day

  62. nice2meetumarco says: Apr 1, 2012 9:30 PM

    Drew Brees wants an explanation.

  63. worldchampsbaby says: Apr 1, 2012 9:35 PM

    How well versed is Parcells in Bounty Hunting?

  64. silentcount says: Apr 1, 2012 10:04 PM

    I’m always suspicious of these anonymous inside sources who claim what the writer himself wants to say. In reality, both Charmichael and Spagnuolo will coordinate the offense and defense fine, but will they still do so if they also have to pay attention to other things? The real issue may be that Goodell has a personal vendetta against Sean and the Saints, and is trying to give them no chance to win another Superbowl. I can see why the fans would be mad at “unbiased” sports writers who don’t see the obvious discrimination.

  65. latopia says: Apr 1, 2012 10:08 PM

    Isn’t the more likely scenario Benson gives Carmichael (can’t ‘reward’ Spags for failing at STL) a shot to run the team so 2012 turns into Carmichael’s audition for the next round of vacancies? An OC-to-HC interim promotion wouldn’t upset the rank-and-file and, if the Saints/Carmichael succeed, Carmichael would surely get other offers while Payton returns. Coordinator attrition to HC gigs is simply part of the NFL game.

  66. Max says: Apr 1, 2012 10:29 PM

    If true, the fact that the in-house candidates told the media this, says to me Sean Payton is right to bring Parcells in!

    No one in NO wants Payton to leave, if in-house candidates want to leave then leave! I am not a big Parcells fan, but at same time if I were Payton, I am not going to hand over the keys to the castle to someone who may undermine me and have designs on my job.

    Payton, built this team and guided it, and will probably even be helping a lot during the season under the table, he cant afford to have people he cant fully trust. And its clear if this story is true, he cant trust some of his staff already. Get on board, on get f*** off.

  67. grannyvi4 says: Apr 2, 2012 1:08 AM

    I gotta say…with the whole bounty thing and how the Saints have reacted since…they have officially replaced the Pack as my least favorite team in the NFL. And that’s saying a lot.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still hate the Pack when we play each other (we are, after all, rivals) and root for other teams to beat them. However, at least when they offered $500 to the defense to keep AP from gaining more than 2 yards in a game and the league found out and told them to stop they…wait for it…STOPPED! What a freaking concept!! For that I give the Pack organization props, and no one in the world knows how hard that is for me to do.

    The Saints organization on the other hand lies and denies, lies and denies, lies and denies. Then they cry like babies when the proverbial sh*t hits the fan. Now Payton, who is NOT thinking of the team, the fans, or NOLA, but only of himself, is being allowed to handpick his temp replacement so he can just walz in next year to pick up where he left off because the dumbsh*t of an owner doesn’t have the brass cajones to fire his a$$.

    The Saints organization reeks of the putrid swamps that surround it.

  68. rabbdogg says: Apr 2, 2012 1:13 AM

    this dude dont know what hes talking about….carmicheal wants and neefs to worry about the offense…spags wants and needs to worry about the defense because hes new to the team and needs to get the defense together…because all of them SAID so THEMSELVES..but of course a site that just makes stuff up would report that part…geez

  69. djaehne says: Apr 2, 2012 2:31 AM

    No worries, Payton will pass out a few of those packets of cash if whoever takes over his job doesn’t want to leave afterwards.

  70. tluke25 says: Apr 2, 2012 5:11 PM

    Opinions are fine as long as we don’t make opinions about journalism? lol.

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