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Buzz builds that Colts could take Griffin

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On Sunday, Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star essentially guaranteed that the Colt will select quarterback Andrew Luck with the first pick in the 2012 draft.  (Then again, there were media guarantees six years ago that the Texans would select Reggie Bush with the first pick.)

But that hasn’t stopped folks from taking the recent words of Colts owner Jim Irsay at face value.  Last week, Irsay said the first pick remains “up in the air.”

Now comes from a somewhat unlikely source further evidence indicating that the Colts could choose Robert Griffin III, after all.  ESPN’s Michael Wilbon, during a phone-in visit with PTI partner Tony Kornheiser, said that the Colts are indeed pondering using the pick on Griffin.

“It’s not like I’m following this closely, but I had the occasion over the weekend to talk to a couple of people who have intimate knowledge of what the Colts are thinking,” Wilbon said, via the Washington Post.  “And you and I have talked very briefly on the show about are they still considering RGIII?  Tony, I’m told they are.

“And I’m told that the main reason they are is because there are people in the organization and people they consult — and now you consult all these different people about something as important as a number one overall draft pick, a maybe once in a generation pick.  And they are of the opinion, some people that are having input into this pick, that RGIII is better in the pocket.”

Several analysts have declared Griffin the better prospect, possessing a higher ceiling while Luck, in the opinion of some, has a higher floor.

The Redskins are believed to be happy to have either guy.  Still, the Colts could end up facing the same dilemma that the franchise last confronted 14 years ago, choosing between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf.

That time, the Colts guessed right.  This time, who knows?

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155 Responses to “Buzz builds that Colts could take Griffin”
  1. airyeezy17 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:29 PM

    Let’s hope both choices are right.

  2. RavenzGunnerz says: Apr 2, 2012 6:30 PM

    Leaf vs. Manning?

  3. pacificamjr says: Apr 2, 2012 6:31 PM

    they both will be very serviceable, at the least. will they be superstars? depends a lot on surrounding cast

  4. RavenzGunnerz says: Apr 2, 2012 6:32 PM

    The choice is simple, go with a guy whose name is ‘Luck’. Hopefully, it’s not the tough one.

  5. doresb21 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM

    Absolutely ridiculous. Media trying to create drama around the draft. You have to be an absolute moron to think RG3 is better in the pocket, or better at anything than Luck. Enjoy RG Leaf Redskins

  6. mianfr says: Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM

    Eh.

    RGIII’s ceiling is basically the good Michael Vick.

    Andrew Luck’s is more or less Peyton Manning.

    I don’t think GM’s are going to get tripped up and pick the exciting player over the better one.

  7. idriveamoped says: Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM

    Here we go again. Colts taking RG3 or more Saints stories, common, its a bad offseason if I am looking forward to the daily rumor mill.

  8. yycfin says: Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM

    Leaf may still be available when gets out of jail. Swing for the fence Colts!

  9. trbowman says: Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM

    Boy, Colts really blowing smoke.

    Luck is the guy there, no question. As he should be.

    It’s really just media types who think it’s a serious discussion between Luck and Griffin for the top pick. If you ask NFL personnel people, 95% are gonna say Luck.

  10. bearsrulepackdrool says: Apr 2, 2012 6:34 PM

    I wonder if all those people who lined up for autographs in Washington will get their money back?

  11. billsfan27 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:35 PM

    Fight or flight.

  12. eaglesnoles05 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:35 PM

    Seems like griffin signing ‘skins gear publicly already makes him destined to go to Indy lol– that’s just how major sacrifice for personel moves work out for Snyder. Good thing in this case the consolation prize of Luck actually yields the better pro.

  13. aresarrow says: Apr 2, 2012 6:36 PM

    If that happens I swear the Browns will be even further on the ledge after not nailing down that trade.

  14. duanethomas says: Apr 2, 2012 6:37 PM

    Buzz is only building right here at PFT….ONLY. Please, Luck has been their guy since November.

  15. tonythenose says: Apr 2, 2012 6:38 PM

    How about the Colts just stick to the plan and not overthink this. Irsay needs to remember why they threw all those games. ;)

  16. clw1906 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:38 PM

    doresb21 says:
    Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM
    Absolutely ridiculous. Media trying to create drama around the draft. You have to be an absolute moron to think RG3 is better in the pocket, or better at anything than Luck. Enjoy RG Leaf Redskins

     I was with you until you made the idiotic statement about what RGIII would be and comparing him to Leaf just further enforces you as an assclown.

  17. ar1888 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:38 PM

    Not going to happen unless Luck loses his arm in a accident.

  18. trubroncfan07 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:39 PM

    Looks like the Colts are starting to take the bait.

  19. redskinspolo says: Apr 2, 2012 6:40 PM

    Anyone who believes anything Wilbon says is an idiot just like he is. No one in hell Irsay does not draft Luck…RG3 to DC 150%

  20. dcchillin89 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:41 PM

    Seems like you’re just trying to validate that ridiculous mock you posted a week ago..

    Not buying it.

  21. finfan4lyfe says: Apr 2, 2012 6:42 PM

    Keep building that buzz, they do huh?, what would you call this article? Sure the buzz isn’t what somebody’s smoking while writing about others smoking….. He’s not going to Indy. Luck and horseshoe belong together. Book it danny boy.

  22. thekingdave says: Apr 2, 2012 6:42 PM

    @doresb21

    Nevermind that Griffin is light years quicker with a stronger arm, but that doesn’t count right?

  23. peytonsneck18 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:42 PM

    Irsay wouldn’t slip up and draft RG3, Luck is built for Indy and RG3 is built for DC

  24. itsmammoth says: Apr 2, 2012 6:42 PM

    mianfr says:
    Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM
    Eh.

    RGIII’s ceiling is basically the good Michael Vick.

    Andrew Luck’s is more or less Peyton Manning.

    I don’t think GM’s are going to get tripped up and pick the exciting player over the better one.

    ——-

    How is this a true statement?

    Why can’t RGIII have the same ceiling as Peyton Manning? Why compare him to Michael Vick all the time? I’m sorry.. even I’m white, but that is such a racial and biased statement.

  25. andyreidisfat says: Apr 2, 2012 6:42 PM

    Oh I get it. The colts are hoping to trade the one for washingtons 2 and the next 2 firsts they have. Knowing Snyder, this deal gets done

  26. mjkelly77 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:44 PM

    A little misdirection to see if they can use this to their advantage. They’d be crazy to pass up on Luck.

  27. poet92581 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:45 PM

    You can’t even take this seriously. Wilbon has been trolling the Redskins hard since he left his Washington Post beat. He is a McNabb apologist as well and wants to blame the Redskins for the fact that McNabb sucks (FYI – he stunk up the joint with the Vikings as well). His “Sources?” When was the last time you read a headline that said “Breaking new from Wilbon?” He covers the NBA now and has a stand up comedy routine with Kornheiser right?

  28. muckfodell says: Apr 2, 2012 6:45 PM

    The Colts must BE buzzed if they would seriously consider it.

    Sounds like some contract posturing to me…

  29. rabidmike says: Apr 2, 2012 6:47 PM

    Bo knows… I’ll expect my check from Nike.

  30. maxvv says: Apr 2, 2012 6:49 PM

    And the media hamster wheel keeps turning, on and on, never actually getting anywhere. Luck is going to be a Colt. End this nonsense.

  31. crapboys says: Apr 2, 2012 6:49 PM

    Don’t worry eagles fan. Who ever skins pick will punish your team for years. Colts have an easy choice. Pick whomever. Both guys are valid #1 picks.

    Wilbon is a joke and Chicago tool. Always hated on every DC team when he was here. His sources are feeding him stuff so he can seem relevant. Lose some weight fatty!! Hahaha

  32. figpucker says: Apr 2, 2012 6:51 PM

    Both are great QB prospects! Let’s hope they both succeed in the NFL. Both seem to have great skill sets and are more similar that people think.

  33. hendawg21 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:52 PM

    Well the fact it’s Wilcinabon and kornholeheiser I wouldn’t take this very seriously….anything to bring viewers PTI, plus Wilbon is a Chicago homer who always wants to stick to Washington sports fans so this his way of trying to stir the pot in Washington just to annoy the Washington faithful. I personally see it as whoever ends up in Indy will have the worst of it Indy is downright pitiful and not much to work with, say what you want about the Redskins but they are a lot better than Indy.

  34. cuda1234 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:52 PM

    Is it my imagination or are all the black analysts lobbying for the black guy? Is that racist?

  35. deathtoromo says: Apr 2, 2012 6:53 PM

    Either team will get a franchise QB. This is typical ESPN spin doctoring to build up draft drama. I wish some network would give those turds real competition.

  36. bigshirk says: Apr 2, 2012 6:53 PM

    isn’t it weird that the Bush and Mario delima was 6 years ago?

  37. sterilizecromartie says: Apr 2, 2012 6:55 PM

    Still, the Colts could end up facing the same dilemma that the franchise last confronted 14 years ago, choosing between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf.
    ————
    And that time the Colts chose the “safe”, pure pocket-passer with the great football genes.

    What makes you think they would do otherwise this time around, outside of a few TV personalities talking out their A?

  38. skoobyfl says: Apr 2, 2012 6:56 PM

    Leaf vs Manning, LOL. This is like a T-rex versus a sloth, the big guy eats the little guy fast.

  39. fordman84 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:57 PM

    Lies. The NFL doesn’t want the thrill of “who will go #1″ taken away. So they are having Indy talk up “maybe we will take RG3″ when we all know that won’t happen.

  40. jhart615 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:57 PM

    Sooooooooooo Luck is the best prospect since John Elway or Peyton Manning, and the Colts are thinking about passing him up?

    Good luck!

  41. jesse1834 says: Apr 2, 2012 6:59 PM

    Pre-draft hype

  42. objectivenflfan says: Apr 2, 2012 7:00 PM

    Stop comparing RG3 to Michael Vick or Cam Newton. The only thing they have in common is skin color – which is irrelevant.

    Why because he can run fast? So can Andrew Luck (4.6). Griffin isn’t anywhere near as shift and agile as Vick (that’s not saying he isn’t either). Griffin and Luck are both special QB’s and I don’t see a down fall drafting either or.

    Do you think the Redskins are going to be mad if the Colts do draft RG3? No.

    Stop turning this into a Manning/Leaf debate too. Leaf was and remains a friggin’ head case. Both of these young men have their heads screwed on and will do great things. Unless you’re in the AFC North or NFC East you shouldn’t be rooting against either of these guys.

  43. wcman says: Apr 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    Every year around this time we have this kind of debate that makes no sense. Andrew Luck has been viewed as a future star since his Freshman year. Each season he has improved to the point he was viewed as the closest thing to Peyton Manning once this past season concluded. Contrast that with RGIII, who was considered at best as the 3rd QB in the draft after Luck and Barkly.

    I always wonder how a prospect betters his draft stock after the games are done? Is anyone seriously going to move RGIII ahead of Luck because he looked good in drills at the Combine and his pro day? If the Colts do this, it will be the stupidest move since the Chargers took Leaf and will be far worse.

  44. 808raiderinparadise says: Apr 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    I think the more and more I look at this QB draft class the closer I link all the QB prospects together. I think Luck was efficient playcaller with audibles and offensive reigns on the game, bu as far the throws he made? …. Short intermediate check-downs. You must look deeper into his stats, he was neve rknown for throwing bullets deep downfield or making NFL route throws. He doesn’t deserve mention with Elway & Manning hooplah … Luck is not a far better player than any of th eother QB’s he just had the model college career.

  45. objectivenflfan says: Apr 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    *AFC South

    Lol thumbs down

  46. electionconfidential says: Apr 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    Why would you take Irsay’s words at face value? He just got through telling us for months that the decision about Peyton hadn’t been made. In retrospect it obviously had… Peyton’s healthy and Irsay dropped him anyway. He’s a liar at least as low down as his Daddy was and that’s pretty bad.

  47. LoCoSu@%s says: Apr 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    This isnt even a good smoke screen.
    On the other hand, the Colts have nothing to gain by creating a smokescreen. Washington basically picks whoever the Colts dont.
    So, unless the Colts are really that dim-witted, I dont see this happening.

  48. amg503 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:01 PM

    Only if Irsay wants to screw with Snyder. It would be funny, but I think that they’ve got it eight with Luck.

  49. egomaniac247 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:02 PM

    Irsay: Our plan is genius…this smoke screen will throw other teams off so we can ensure we get the guy we like!

    Colts board member: uhh…sir we have the 1st pick

    Irsay: EXACTLY, they wont suspect a thing!

  50. nflsucker says: Apr 2, 2012 7:02 PM

    Why even tune in until we know what Rob Lowe thinks? Or maybe things will get “clarified” with some absolutely crazy-*ssed tweet.

  51. yojoemama says: Apr 2, 2012 7:03 PM

    This would be funny and I would LMAO since Luck opted to stay his senior season because he assumed he would be the #1 pick this draft as he would’ve been last year. Similar to what happened to Matt Leinert lol.

  52. link49 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:04 PM

    APRIL FOOL WAS YESTERDAY

  53. trojan33sc says: Apr 2, 2012 7:04 PM

    I prefer RGIII with the Skins, just Irsay trying to stay relevant. “Oooh Oooh, look at Me !!”

  54. stuartscottslefteye says: Apr 2, 2012 7:07 PM

    If Irsay is intelligent the pick should be “up in the air.” The franchise should wisely evaluate everybody. To put blinders on and focus on just one guy – when there is a “close second,” would be foolish. Much ado about nuffin…

  55. bleed4philly says: Apr 2, 2012 7:07 PM

    Ya gotta be licking your chops if you’re the deadskins.

  56. rg1here says: Apr 2, 2012 7:08 PM

    Jim Irsay‏@JimIrsayReply

    We had 100 % participation in beginning of off season W.O.s today and now Colts staff members in air,as we tweet,to Stanford 2c u know who!
    ————–
    Tweeted 1 hour ago. Just sayin’

  57. bhindenemylines says: Apr 2, 2012 7:09 PM

    As a Cowboys’ fan to The Colts’ brass:

    PLEASE TAKE ANDREW LUCK!!!!

    I would rather face RGIII twice a year for the next five years that Luck twice a year for the next 10.

    I believe RGIII is another Vick; good but not great.

    Luck will be better.

  58. jackm79 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:10 PM

    RG3 IS the better QB. Don’t compare him to Vick. They are pretty much opposite QBs. RG3 is a pocket passer. Sure he is fast, but that is not his game. His game is standing in the pocket and throwing lasers down the field. He is more accurate then Luck. Just as smart as Luck. A better athlete then Luck. Has a better arm then Luck. And is a better leader then luck. RG3 won the Heisman at Baylor!! BAYLOR. Anyone who watches a lot of tape knows who the better player is. Colts fans should hope their owner and GM are watching all the tape. If they are, they will draft RG3. If not, they will be Kipered.

  59. bullcharger says: Apr 2, 2012 7:13 PM

    Colts will stink with Luck or with RGIII. They will just stink. They have no players.

  60. 8man says: Apr 2, 2012 7:18 PM

    The fact that they may feel that there are two legitimate franchise QBs in this draft may have made their Manning decision easier.

    Look they weren’t going to win anything with Manning this year or maybe even next. It was just time for them to move on. The question is, who is the right guy? Hell, what if they are both wrong?

  61. realdealsteel says: Apr 2, 2012 7:18 PM

    Irsay is going with Luck. This is just a bunch of media hype trying to make an anti-climatic first pick exciting.

  62. xmgmx says: Apr 2, 2012 7:18 PM

    I see these two as pretty even, with RG3 having a better long ball. I would take him over Luck, but would be happy with either.

  63. packattack1967 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:19 PM

    Yawn. Repeat?
    1 Cleveland Browns Tim Couch QB Kentucky
    2 Philadelphia Eagles Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse
    3 Cincinnati Bengals Akili Smith QB Oregon

  64. coltsluckdynasty says: Apr 2, 2012 7:19 PM

    Luck wants to go to Indy, I have no idea where people say that RG3 has a higher ceiling…. That is ridiculous. I think both are amazing talents, but if the colts screw this up, they will regret it for years. I could have cared less about manning going to the donkeys, I was more happy to have a shot at luck than keeping manning and his neck around for maybe 2 years at best.

  65. autumnwind999 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:21 PM

    No doubt Luck is the superior QB. Don’t think RG3 will be that special. Possibly a poor man’s McNabb.

  66. jameslongstaffe says: Apr 2, 2012 7:27 PM

    Both Luck & Griffin III look pretty good on tape & paper… they are both worthy of a #1 pick. I would pick the smarter of the 2, whichever that may be, because intelligence as a QB is highly under-rated.

  67. castleofcheese says: Apr 2, 2012 7:28 PM

    Someone needs to ask Rob Lowe what his sources are telling him…

  68. geo1113 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:28 PM

    Andrew Luck’s is more or less Peyton Manning.

    ———————

    Ummm…that would be less.

  69. toolman94 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:30 PM

    Rob Lowe says colts taking RG3

  70. isabsir says: Apr 2, 2012 7:37 PM

    Wilbon hates on the Redskins every chance he gets, especially since they dumped his boy, Mcnabb. His credibility is shot but somehow his words still hold weight and now we see how silly rumors get spread.

  71. cuda1234 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:38 PM

    But where’s the story on how Tim Tebow is a better prospect (and human being) than either of these guys? Why haven’t the Colts or Skins given up their top pick for Tebow?

  72. tashkalucy says: Apr 2, 2012 7:40 PM

    Well now……

    If Michael Wilbon, said it to Tony Kornheiser then it must , said that be true!

    They know everything about everything!

  73. tatum064 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:44 PM

    You can end the argument with how would RGIII do in Stanford’s offense, vs. how Andrew Luck would do in a spread offensive attack like Baylor’s?

    Its a good combination and good question to ponder…..Redskins would be fortunate to land Luck at 2…

  74. bobbyhoying says: Apr 2, 2012 7:45 PM

    As an Eagles fan, I hope the Skins get Luck. RG3 scares me much more.

  75. bullcharger says: Apr 2, 2012 7:45 PM

    8man says:Apr 2, 2012 7:18 PM

    The fact that they may feel that there are two legitimate franchise QBs in this draft may have made their Manning decision easier.

    Look they weren’t going to win anything with Manning this year or maybe even next. It was just time for them to move on. The question is, who is the right guy? Hell, what if they are both wrong?

    ———————

    They could have won with Manning if they used the first round pick to get parts for him. Could have traded down and done well in the draft and got some free agents for a 2 or 3 year run at the superbowl. The only reason to trade Manning was they didn’t think he could do it anymore. Otherwise it was really dumb.

  76. emmac13 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:46 PM

    That would make this the most interesting in history. I would love to see the look on Shannys face. The Skins have been booking on Griffin.

  77. browns627 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:48 PM

    kravitz and the rest tossing out this rumor are just trying to get on irsays good side… this is just a contract game to get the agents flustered.. hang on luck you’ll be a colt but dont get suckered into a low ball contract

  78. peytonsneck18 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:50 PM

    Buzz builds that Ryan Leaf could get arrested again 3 times in one week

  79. akd1287 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:50 PM

    I’m not buying this for a second. It’s almost guaranteed 1. Luck 2. Griffin, unless I see differently on draft day I’m not believing anything to the contrary.

  80. rando74 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:51 PM

    Yeah, Right. Next headline “Peyton Manning leaning toward the Dolphins.” Ugh.

  81. waltdawg says: Apr 2, 2012 7:51 PM

    I love how the article suggests that the SKINS are just so “OH Well….HO HUM”

    SKINS WANT RG3 — He is ours. Stay away.

  82. jwreck says: Apr 2, 2012 7:55 PM

    bigshirk says: Apr 2, 2012 6:53 PM

    isn’t it weird that the Bush and Mario delima was 6 years ago?
    _______________________

    Yeah, i noticed this too. It definitely creeped me out… It’s almost like the NFL draft happens at the same time every year. It’s crazy, because last year it was five years since the Bush-Williams picks went down, and next year, it’ll be seven years. It’s like some kind of supernatural pattern.

    I told a friend about this, and he pointed out that the coincidence wasn’t actually that weird because Bush is a running back and Williams is a defensive end, and there was no media controversy surrounding the order of the picks, just a last minute surprise when the Texans took Williams. But then I noticed the weirdest thing of all, the Manning-Leaf draft was 14 years ago. Think about it. Fourteen divided by two, minus one equals six. OK, anybody else totally freaked out now?

  83. zn0rseman says: Apr 2, 2012 7:58 PM

    SMOKE-SCREEN

  84. indywilson40 says: Apr 2, 2012 7:59 PM

    Thumbs”up” if you think the Colts should take Luck. Thumbs “down” if you think the Colts should take Luck

  85. wethog66 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:00 PM

    As a Skins fan I will be happy with either one.

    Having said that, if the Colts do take RG3, I will have a good laugh at the thought of all those Skins fans that shelled out $100 this past weekend getting RG3’s autograph/photograph.

  86. lasher1650 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:06 PM

    In a related story, I am thinking about banging Rosie O’Donnell instead of Miss Universe.

  87. henryjones20 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:07 PM

    Why isn’t anybody demanding to see see there wonderlic scores?? Is it because rg3 graduated in 3 years while luck is still struggling to get his?? Haha

  88. wdcskins says: Apr 2, 2012 8:10 PM

    I really don’t think there’s anything to this story. Nothing more than Irsay’s bizarre, Cuban-esque need to be the bigger story, between himself and his team. Up until a year or so ago, I had no idea that this guy had the social media habits of a 14 year old girl. I wonder how all of his Twitter jackassery goes over, in the locker room? No, they’re taking Luck. Even if they don’t, I think both teams come away winners.

  89. chad504boy says: Apr 2, 2012 8:10 PM

    NFL Rooney Rule apply to the draft? They must “interview/consider” an alternative draft pick before settling on the white guy?

  90. dogluverssuck says: Apr 2, 2012 8:19 PM

    You clowns are mad just like Vick………..

    HA HA HA :)

  91. shlort says: Apr 2, 2012 8:21 PM

    Luck is the best option for a team looking for a franchise type player. Sure, Griffin is a great player, but he will likely find that his durability will be challenged at the Professional level. I can only think of 2 quarterbacks who made a career by running and throwing the ball, while playing more than a few years. Steve Young and Mike Vick.I can think of dozens of greatQuarterbacks who threw the ball and only ran out of neccessity. Which is the better option? Well, if you want stability at the position, you take the guy who throws it first. If you want to sell jerseys and watch a player on highlight reels, you take the guy who runs it. Griffin’s college success is less likely to transfer to the NFL than Luck’s. There is a reason you hear “pro style offense” when watching college ball. It is because that is how it is done in the NFL… The rest is a novilty act.

  92. lasher1650 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:21 PM

    jwreck says:
    Apr 2, 2012 7:55 PM
    bigshirk says: Apr 2, 2012 6:53 PM

    isn’t it weird that the Bush and Mario delima was 6 years ago?
    _______________________

    Yeah, i noticed this too. It definitely creeped me out… It’s almost like the NFL draft happens at the same time every year. It’s crazy, because last year it was five years since the Bush-Williams picks went down, and next year, it’ll be seven years. It’s like some kind of supernatural pattern.

    I told a friend about this, and he pointed out that the coincidence wasn’t actually that weird because Bush is a running back and Williams is a defensive end, and there was no media controversy surrounding the order of the picks, just a last minute surprise when the Texans took Williams. But then I noticed the weirdest thing of all, the Manning-Leaf draft was 14 years ago. Think about it. Fourteen divided by two, minus one equals six. OK, anybody else totally freaked out now?
    _________________________________________________________________

    I find this post very amusing.

  93. thraiderskin says: Apr 2, 2012 8:22 PM

    I like both a lot, but I think I would enjoy watching RG3 play more. Again, both are amazing prospects and I would be comfortable with either.

  94. zillabeast says: Apr 2, 2012 8:23 PM

    Don’t do it!

    IT’S A TRAP!!

  95. astrosfan75956 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:24 PM

    The colts are just trying to stay relevant in the media by saying rediculous things.

  96. tdk24 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:30 PM

    The Colts drafting Griffin is exactly what the Skins want. The pumped him up and moving into the 2nd spot is all just a ploy to be able to draft Luck. I will laugh my arse off if this is how it plays out. LOL

  97. The Overtime Sports Talk Show says: Apr 2, 2012 8:37 PM

    RG3 is just a accurate as Luck. I agree with neither team loses here. Luck may fit better in Indy because of the system they will run. Mike Vick ain’t even close to RG3 coming out of college. Mike Vick was a running back (more or less) and not even close to being as accurate as RG3 at this point in his career. Plus RG3 has a better head on his shoulders. Luck will be the same Luck we’ve seen the past three years. Stable, accurate, read defenses. RG3 will be fast, accurate with the deep ball and complete passes on the run, tailored to the Skins offense. Indy should do themselves a huge favor and select Luck.

  98. dietrich43 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:38 PM

    The Colts are probably leaking to great leverage in negotiations with Luck.

  99. georgeblanda says: Apr 2, 2012 8:40 PM

    I am a big Luck fan but must say there isn’t really a bad answer to this question. These guys are both going to be great NFL QB’s. I must say, however, those that keep putting Ryan Leaf’s name in the mix need to stop. Neither of these guys has demonstrated any chance to be the flake that Leaf was and still is. (BTW, when Indy selected Manning over Leaf it was a total no brainer at the time)

  100. nyfan63 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:44 PM

    Has anyone asked Rob Lowe what he thinks?

  101. ericn42000 says: Apr 2, 2012 8:55 PM

    Either way the colts cant go wrong!

  102. brownoholic says: Apr 2, 2012 9:00 PM

    Gimme a break. Lame enough that the media is trying to get Tannehill drafted at 3 or 4. Now THIS b.s.???

  103. onwisc0nsin says: Apr 2, 2012 9:01 PM

    Much ado about nothing.

  104. xli2006 says: Apr 2, 2012 9:01 PM

    No it isn’t. You’ve been trying to build a buzz to drive a story. Sure the Colts are considering both Prospects, but you have no idea what is going on internally with the Colts, face it you and other reporters are just throwing darts here.

    In other news… The Colts are attending a Private Workout for Luck at Stanford. They are sending Grigson, Pagano, Arians, and Christensen. No workout has been scheduled for RG3. Those would be facts, not speculation (big difference).

  105. theandy59 says: Apr 2, 2012 9:03 PM

    If the Colts are smart, they should absolutely being looking hard at RG3. He has all the tools to be a great NFL QB – accuracy, arm strength, intelligence, leadership – the full package. When I look at Luck, I see Chad Pennington. There’s nothing wrong with Chad Pennington, he was a very good NFL QB – but if you knew Luck was going to be Chad, assuming good health, would you take him @1?

  106. heavywoody says: Apr 2, 2012 9:04 PM

    I was thinking that same thing about the Rooney Rule. So the Colts can’t do the obvious and just sign the best player available. They have to make it seem like it is a nail biter so they don’t have to have audience with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

    RG Leaf might be the most overrated QB I have seen come out of college. What has this guy done to deserve being ranked higher than Luck on some boards??? There are many spread offense college QBs that are 6’2″ who put up those numbers. How many succeed in the NFL?

    I will laugh my a$$ off when RG Leaf is a bust.

  107. heavywoody says: Apr 2, 2012 9:05 PM

    In another poll, how many people think RG III believes OJ is innocent?

  108. jayquintana says: Apr 2, 2012 9:09 PM

    Best QB not in the NFL: Matt Barkley.

  109. oister78 says: Apr 2, 2012 9:11 PM

    RGIII is a play-maker and Luck is a system player that is a product of the system he plays in. Who would you rather have? A guy like Griffin, who might not follow the playbook accordingly, but can make huge plays when the play breaks down, or Luck, a guy who follows the playbook & the plays called to exact specifications and timing but is not as good as RG3 at making a play happen when all hell breaks loose. That should be the ultimate contemplation & question asked when deciding who will pan out as the better NFL QB.

  110. bringbacktheflex says: Apr 2, 2012 9:12 PM

    I think you have to look at history. In the last 10 years how many “statues” have won the SB at QB:

    Brady
    Manning 1.0
    Roethlesberger

    That’s six SBs.

    Brees isn’t exactly known as a scrambler either. That’s 7.

    Rodgers has some legs. Manning 2.0 is mobile, but certainly not Tebow.

    Speaking of which…

    How many SBs won by “great athletes” at QB? zero.

  111. icewalker946 says: Apr 2, 2012 9:14 PM

    Wonder if Indy is just trying to get Redskins (Dan Snyder) to trade up one spot to be sure they get their QB in RGIII.

    That would make The Mad Tweeter (what Tony Kornheiser called Jim Irsay) Super Genius.

  112. dcpatfan says: Apr 2, 2012 9:14 PM

    if they do, Indiana hillbillies will riot. Only da squeaky clean guy will do.

  113. phadedwun says: Apr 2, 2012 9:19 PM

    Everyone keeps complaining about how this is just being done to engage fans..

    *looks at number of comments*

    Hey look. It’s working.

  114. preventoffense says: Apr 2, 2012 9:24 PM

    I’ll take the solid. althletic tree trunk legs for 15 years over the speedy bird legs for 7 years of fireworks everytime.

    Let’s say RG3 IS better in the pocket. By how much? Does this mean Luck sucks in the pocket? This is all so silly. You have to consider the whole package.

  115. marinephinfan says: Apr 2, 2012 9:33 PM

    If RGIII goes to Indy I wouldn’t be surprised. RGIII, IMO, is going to be great. Better than Luck? I don’t know. Worse than Luck? I doubt it.

  116. billsgotballs says: Apr 2, 2012 9:43 PM

    jwreck says:
    Apr 2, 2012 7:55 PM
    bigshirk says: Apr 2, 2012 6:53 PM

    isn’t it weird that the Bush and Mario delima was 6 years ago?
    _______________________

    Yeah, i noticed this too. It definitely creeped me out… It’s almost like the NFL draft happens at the same time every year. It’s crazy, because last year it was five years since the Bush-Williams picks went down, and next year, it’ll be seven years. It’s like some kind of supernatural pattern.

    I told a friend about this, and he pointed out that the coincidence wasn’t actually that weird because Bush is a running back and Williams is a defensive end, and there was no media controversy surrounding the order of the picks, just a last minute surprise when the Texans took Williams. But then I noticed the weirdest thing of all, the Manning-Leaf draft was 14 years ago. Think about it. Fourteen divided by two, minus one equals six. OK, anybody else totally freaked out now?

    _________________________________

    Funniest post in 2012. “It’s gold, Jerry. Gold!”

    5 0

  117. dogluverssuck says: Apr 2, 2012 9:54 PM

    RG3 can do what Luck can do, but Luck can’t do what RG3 can do.

    What is the debate?

  118. The Prophet says: Apr 2, 2012 9:58 PM

    I don’t know who will necessarily be the better player, but I just think RG3 will be a better fit in Washington and Luck will be a better fit with the Colts. For some reason i just picture both guys failing miserably if Luck was a skin and Griffin was a Colt.

  119. realitypolice says: Apr 2, 2012 9:59 PM

    The longer the process drags on, the more and more of these stories you will read. The media can’t simply report every day for three months that the Colts are taking Luck. People would stop reading.

    So they make phone calls. Dozens and dozens of phone calls, desperately searching for someone with a contrarian opinion, someone who may have heard something someone may have said to someone, or maybe not. Then, with the proper amounts of caveats to cover their butts, they report these whispers in the wind just to get everyone’s attention.

    They should just hold the damn combine 2 weeks after the Super Bowl, and have the draft 30 weeks after that. The hell with the pro days, “camp gruden” and all of the unnecessary noise that builds and builds and builds up to the point where there are people in the world that ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE COLTS MAY TAKE RGIII OVER LUCK.

    Ugh.

  120. latopia says: Apr 2, 2012 10:01 PM

    Leaf v. Manning isn’t one-size fits all. Remeber Bledsoe (#1) v. Mirer (#2) in 1993? Or Couch (#1) v McNabb (#2) in 1999?

    Plus, if you believe everything you hear, neither Griffin nor Luck will bomb like Leaf, Mirer or Couch.

    Luck/Griffin could be writing a new chapter in draft history. Not boom or bust, but perhaps and instead boom & boom.

  121. realitypolice says: Apr 2, 2012 10:05 PM

    *30 days* I obviously meant

  122. winskins says: Apr 2, 2012 10:07 PM

    Bozo the Clown >Wilbon.

  123. musicman495 says: Apr 2, 2012 10:08 PM

    This canard of comparing everyone about whom there are draft questions to Ryan Leaf, who is among the top 2 or 3 biggest draft busts is NFL history, is ridiculous. Both Griffin and Luck will be successful.

  124. wallacejay says: Apr 2, 2012 10:12 PM

    Yeah right. That goofball Irsay has been chirping since about 0-5 that they were taking Luck long before RG3 was even thought of a a top pick.

  125. discosucs2005 says: Apr 2, 2012 10:15 PM

    As a 49ers fan, I’m so sick of hearing about two great prospects my team has zero chance of getting. And seeing how Blackmon is almost certainly going to the Browns, I might as well just go back and reread the story about the 49ers signing Peyton Manning…oh wait…now I’m really sad.

  126. heavywoody says: Apr 2, 2012 10:16 PM

    RG III comes from a read option, single read, spread offense. Do you know how many QBs come out of similar offenses every year that put up great numbers? So for the life of me, I can’t figure out why people are saying “Yeah, but he is different”. If nothing else, the fact that he is 6’2″ makes him on the smaller side for current NFL QBs. And he also had very good WRs that would simply run behind the DBs.

    He is being projected to be good taking the ball from center and making 2-3 reads. Based on what???

    To me, he is a faster Akili Smith. I think he will be a terrible bust.

  127. thousandcasts says: Apr 2, 2012 10:22 PM

    I don’t know why the Redskin fans are all fired up. If they get Luck or RGIII, they still are being coached by Shanny and Son. By the time the house is cleaned in DC, the QB will be a shell of himself…broken.

  128. brownsalwaysrebuilding says: Apr 2, 2012 10:43 PM

    Is there a Rooney Rule for the #1 pick?

  129. jh4prez says: Apr 2, 2012 11:08 PM

    @ heavywoody Cam Newton?

  130. paleandpasty says: Apr 2, 2012 11:24 PM

    Now the matchup is
    Leaf vs. Presciption Drugs

  131. heavywoody says: Apr 2, 2012 11:27 PM

    Yes, the Rooney Rule applies to the #1 pick now. If there is a non-white QB, you have to make it look like it is up in the air.

  132. heavywoody says: Apr 2, 2012 11:31 PM

    Why is Griffin going to be more any more successful than Leaf? It is so funny that everyone keeps talking about Luck and RGIII like they are both going to be stars because the guys on ESPN and NFL network say they both are. They said that about Leaf too. Leaf had a pissy attitude, but his downfall was he couldn’t make the reads. We still don’t know if RGIII can because he hasn’t had to.

    So until I see otherwise, RG III is Ryan Leaf with a tan. Or RG Leaf.

  133. Ba'al from www.Cowboys-Forum.com says: Apr 3, 2012 12:03 AM

    If the Colts pick RGIII it will set the Colts back for years IMO.

  134. jm8ch10 says: Apr 3, 2012 12:06 AM

    RGIII is an incredible athlete who can throw. He is a bigger, smarter and more accurate Michael Vick. That being said, Andrew Luck is bigger and smarter than Griffin. He’s a 3.4 student at one of the countries best schools in academia. Take Luck and you have a bonafide franchise QB for years. No brainer.

  135. jm8ch10 says: Apr 3, 2012 12:13 AM

    RG3<AL1

  136. reach4succeed says: Apr 3, 2012 12:27 AM

    Sunday night- September 9 opening season game: Indianapolis Colts at the Washington Redskins. Whos better?

  137. slider7702 says: Apr 3, 2012 1:02 AM

    What network is the draft on IN PRIMTIME this year?

    What network does Wilbon work for?

    Oh that’s right… Garbage

  138. cluelessdufus says: Apr 3, 2012 1:10 AM

    reading these comments I believe you guys though Leaf would be good well he is has been arrested 2 times in 4 days.RG3 is a bust sorry skins fans I didn’t know you were that stupid.RG3 body 6-2 220lbs is small for a QB and only Joe Montana and Aaron Rodgers had success and trust me lots of Quarterbacks have been small and really none did anything.RG3 panics when pressure comes to him and forces something.Another thing he is awful at reading defenses and the NFL will not let you get a way with that.He also runs more than throws and his small body will get him hurt and out of the NFL in a few years.When you have Kendall Wright catching 180 passes last year for 16 touchdowns and 1500 yards that what I call a Dunte Culpepper Randy Moss secnario.And most of his schedule was unranked college teams that have 5th and 6th round projects defending WR it is easy to score and he was a 1 year starter like Vince Young,Jamarcus Russell,Jason Campbell, and Mark Sanchez ring a bell the chances of him doing something is very low and someone will bet on his potenial and lose and set there franchise back which is the Redskins and will set it back further with the trade and the Redskins are screwed incase the colts are so stupid they take RG3 and Luck goes with the Redskins.Now Luck I wouldn’t say that he is a “once in a lifetime Quarterback”but does not have any down sides and he will at least be above-average

  139. zn0rseman says: Apr 3, 2012 1:23 AM

    Hmmmm…

    I’m guessing that around 31.27% of the people who voted in the poll are black.

    Just a completely random, shot-in-the-dark guess.

  140. billmead1976 says: Apr 3, 2012 2:30 AM

    sometimes you have one of those years where nobody succeeds. neither the colts or the redskins have the talent to support these “franchise” guys.

    remember 2006? vince young, matt leinhart – then jay cutler, kellen clemens and tavaris jackson were the first five qb drafted.

    you can make an argument that Young looked as good if not better as RGIII in college and Leinhart looked better than Luck in college.

    so five years later, VY is a nutcase and ML is unemployed.

  141. briang123 says: Apr 3, 2012 3:19 AM

    No one is hoping this is true more than Mike Shanahan.

  142. eaglefan713 says: Apr 3, 2012 4:03 AM

    all the comparing RG3 to Vick has to stop. Its such an uneducated and racist reply, If you ever seen RG3 play he is indeed a pocket passer, he does have Vick ability but unlike Vick he would rather work from the pocket. If i had to compare him to someone in the league it would be Aaron Rodgers.

    As for the Griffen vs Luck arguement i wont be a fake anaylst and say your an idiot if you feel one is better than the other. If i had to choose I would much rather see the Eagles play Luck than Griffen. With that said only time will tell with these two,I dont think the Colts can go wrong with this pick. Luck and Griffen both have bright futures in the league.

  143. mattw70 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:31 AM

    “To me, he is a faster Akili Smith. I think he will be a terrible bust.”

    Akili Smith couldn’t pass his SAT and decided to play baseball for a few years,out of high school.He failed and went to Jr. College..finally got to Oregon and started getting failing grades and in trouble with the law.
    When he got to the NFL.he didn’t understand the playbook.Then he wouldn’t talk to reporters and got arrested for driving drunk.

    He is nothing like RG3!

  144. cowherpower says: Apr 3, 2012 6:03 AM

    scrambling QB’s dont work in the NFL . Take the smart QB before the athletic one allday . I hope the colts fall for the hype of RG3 cuz Luck looks like he’s gonna be special . ID rather face RG3 than Luck .

  145. mattw70 says: Apr 3, 2012 6:38 AM

    “scrambling QB’s dont work in the NFL ”

    Cam Newton was more of a running QB than RG3 in college.How did he do in the NFL?

    Ever heard of Steve Young?Ran for 43 tds.

    “Take the smart QB before the athletic one ..”

    Griffin graduated in three years with a degree in political science and a 3.67 GPA

    This is just too easy.

  146. cowherpower says: Apr 3, 2012 7:14 AM

    how many games did SCam Newton win . This is just too easy . RG3 is not Doug Williams sorry . Too easy . lol your mad

  147. cowherpower says: Apr 3, 2012 7:35 AM

    Matt did you try to compare Baylor academics to Stanford . WOW i cant take you seriously now . RG3 red shirted so it was 4 years . Scrambling QB’s win games not super bowls . The valid iron clad proof is there .

  148. mannyicey says: Apr 3, 2012 8:44 AM

    First of all, this indeed is pretty good, if not made up; drama. This is fun and immediately shows how bias influences evaluation of talent.

    For instance, RGIII is really good in the pocket. He may be better than Luck in the pocket, but because he’s such a fast runner, people would think differently.

    Conversely, Luck is fantastic in creating space on the move. And he’s pretty fast and a good scrambler. But he’s a Peyton Manning clone, so you really wouldn’t think he’s that fast and nimble on his feet.

    My thinking is this: I think that whoever the Colts pick will be the loser. The Colts’ cupboards will be bare. But the Colts play indoors and I think that RGIII would play better indoors.

    Plus hiring RGIII does a couple of things that may give the Colts time to build a team around him. Having speed at quarterback can mask glaring deficiencies on your line, as well as upgrade your running game. That makes your safeties come up and play honest, leaving a chance for a big play downfield.

    So you can hire RGIII, make sure his blind side is protected, get a big body on the outside and your offense is done for the season. You can concentrate on your defense and slowly pick up upgrades while going to the playoffs in two years. (See the Carolina Panthers-2011 or the Atlanta Falcons 2001)

    If you hire Luck, you will have to do all of that; plus hire a speedy WR and a running back. That also means that your OTs must be stout. That’s more money needed for investment now or you will suck until you cover those areas. (See the Bengals or Browns.)

    I’m telling you: One of these days you’re going to see a white guy coming out of the draft with the speed and arm of these new age QBs and we will think of the days of slow guys with rocket arms nostalgically. See every time the US populace embraces change in culture, there has to be an Elvis.

  149. georgelovespepper says: Apr 3, 2012 9:32 AM

    they shouldn’t compare RGIII to Ryan Leaf. RGIII doesn’t have the “character issues” that made the Colts steer clear of Leaf. He seems like a nice kid with 2 military parents, he is probably polite and a hard worker.

  150. theta1585 says: Apr 3, 2012 11:34 AM

    Die-hard Colts fan.
    “Buzz building that Colts may select RG”….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    We’re taking Luck. End of story.

    Now, for some actually exciting news – baseball is back!!

  151. mannyicey says: Apr 3, 2012 11:41 AM

    So this thread’s over. RGIII refuses to a private workout with the Colts. He’s decided where he’s going.

  152. htownwibbler says: Apr 3, 2012 11:52 AM

    cowherpower says: Apr 3, 2012 7:35 AM

    Matt did you try to compare Baylor academics to Stanford . WOW i cant take you seriously now . RG3 red shirted so it was 4 years . Scrambling QB’s win games not super bowls . The valid iron clad proof is there .
    ____________________________________

    This is just ignorance of facts. RG3 graduated in Dec. 2010. He has since been in a Masters program for communications and will earn his masters before this summer and heading off to whoever selects him.

    Also, if he was a true scrambling QB, he would have ended up with more than 600+ yds rushing this past year. Truth is, the guy wants to throw first.

  153. htownwibbler says: Apr 3, 2012 11:55 AM

    mannyicey says: Apr 3, 2012 11:41 AM

    So this thread’s over. RGIII refuses to a private workout with the Colts. He’s decided where he’s going.
    _________________________________

    Actually, he refused private workouts with all teams, including the Redskins. Just interviews.

  154. jrh0 says: Apr 4, 2012 2:32 PM

    We already know where everybody is going. No story.

    RGIII was right to pass on a workout with the colts for several reasons, but as has also been said, it was already a given for him on getting drafted, so he had no need to really do private workouts, but in his own words, declaring that he would only be doing pro day would hopefully cause more teams to show up, thus getting some face time for some of his teammates who hadn’t had as much publicity.

  155. jrh0 says: Apr 4, 2012 2:38 PM

    As for his scrambling, they aren’t expecting him to run for game winning yards. THe Skins want RG because his overall play style fits in with the Skins style of offense.

    The Skins are hoping that his ability to run will force other teams to risk giving him the short run, or keeping a defender short, taking pressure off the receivers. Either way, his running ability creates one more area defenses have to figure out how to cover, thus spreading the defense a little bit thinner.

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