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David Hawthorne signs with Saints

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The Saints linebacking corps is going to look very different next season.

They signed Curtis Lofton earlier this month and now comes word that they have signed former Seahawks linebacker David Hawthorne as well. The team announced that it is a five-year deal via Twitter on Tuesday afternoon. No financial details have been announced.

Hawthorne has started 41 games for the Seahawks over the last three years and finished with more than 100 tackles in all three seasons. He got his first shot in the starting lineup after an injury to Lofa Tatupu in 2009 and did good work inside for the Seahawks, including a career-high three interceptions last season. He first joined the team as an undrafted free agent out of TCU in 2008.

Where he fits with the Saints remains to be seen. Lofton projects to be their starting middle linebacker, but there are certainly openings at the other spots with Jo-Lonn Dunbar signing in St. Louis and no one else really distinguishing themselves last season.

Hawthorne’s arrival makes it seem like the Saints are preparing for life without Jonathan Vilma. Whether that’s because he’s suspended as a result of the bounty investigation or not, Vilma’s days in New Orleans seem numbered.

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  1. cowboysaretheworst says: Apr 3, 2012 5:18 PM

    The new Seahawks uniforms must have swayed his decision to leave.

  2. cball77 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:22 PM

    The 12th man will miss the Heater.

  3. cwmorga says: Apr 3, 2012 5:23 PM

    First time we’ve had decent linebackers since the dome patrol. WHO DAT

  4. chrismatthewsucks says: Apr 3, 2012 5:24 PM

    REally REally strong run stopper, will put NASTY his on RB’s will get you 5 fumbles a year, going to miss that guy. Only thing is if he gets an INT, it will be like watching him run slow motion (not very fast, with knee problems) see eagles game. Good luck david.

  5. phillymike5959 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:24 PM

    Coincidence after debuting some of the most horrid jerseys I’ve ever seen that he bolts SEA a few hours later??? Would you want to wear that?

  6. bigbaldpapahawk says: Apr 3, 2012 5:24 PM

    Nooooooo.

  7. hopper15 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:27 PM

    Did they forget about Brees all of sudden? It’s unbelievable he’s still not under contract.

  8. winningisabrees says: Apr 3, 2012 5:27 PM

    Bounty What? 5 FA signings this offseason where in PFT Top 100.

    Grubbs
    Lofton
    Chamberlain
    Bunkley
    Hawthrone

    Players dont seem to mind comming here.

  9. hoops737 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:28 PM

    Get the hell out Vilma!!

  10. ilovefoolsball says: Apr 3, 2012 5:29 PM

    Wow Spags is really putting his thumbprint on this defense. It will be interesting to see if all of these linebackers the Saints are signing equal a more stout defense or if it will be the same as it ever was.

    Wouldn’t it be peculiar if the Saints go to the Superbowl again for the second time with a brand new defensive coordinator?
    Then you can all take your asterisks and put it on that Superbowl as well because they would be a dynasty! :)

  11. bluvayner says: Apr 3, 2012 5:31 PM

    Must not have liked the new uniforms.

  12. matthewcarlson1 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:35 PM

    Welcome to the most hated team in america enjoy being anonymous for the rest of your career!

  13. norcalcard says: Apr 3, 2012 5:41 PM

    Jonathan Vilma is obviously toast. His name is the second most you hear besides Gregg Williams in this cheating scandal. And the only Saints player to be mentioned by name. Man every time I see that Vilma is the only player mentioned like that “Ooooh you’re going to be soooo buusteeed ) keeps coming to mind.

    Hope a tainted Super Bowl ring was worth it because
    Vilma is getting the same as Gregg Williams. And they’re just lucky the league didn’t take away all their rings because Goodell could’ve easily been justified in doing so.

  14. dat504 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:41 PM

    The Who Dat Express is still rolling…… Hi Haters

  15. liddogg33 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:45 PM

    BIG LOSS for my hawks!! got burnt playing the waiting game!! CONGRATS HEATER!!! Saints are gettin a hell of a football player!! Thanks for the memories!! Good thing we have the draft gurus we do!!!!

  16. ilovefoolsball says: Apr 3, 2012 5:46 PM

    matthewcarlson1 says:
    Apr 3, 2012 5:35 PM
    Welcome to the most hated team in america enjoy being anonymous for the rest of your career!
    _______
    Yeah because certainly no one knows who Tracy Porter, Jonathan Vilma, Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Roman Harper, or Will Smith are right?

  17. soldiersaint77 says: Apr 3, 2012 5:48 PM

    Most hated team! Dramatic much?A

  18. packfaninchitown says: Apr 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    Saints are wise to sign big names since many of their existing roster will be suspended (and rightly so) for BountyGate…

  19. middletestament says: Apr 3, 2012 5:52 PM

    Brodrick Bunkley, Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, and now David Hawthorne… Most teams will not be able to run on the Saints thus forced to shoot it out with them. Good luck.

    Even with an unsettled coaching situation, in my eyes, the Saints have leapfrogged the Packers as the Super Bowl favorites.

  20. qtownchawk says: Apr 3, 2012 5:55 PM

    My hawks lb corps is getting very thin. Heater is a hars hitter and good run stuffer we’ll miss em. Good pick up n.o

  21. chawk12thman says: Apr 3, 2012 5:58 PM

    winningisabrees says:
    Apr 3, 2012 5:27 PM
    Bounty What? 5 FA signings this offseason where in PFT Top 100.

    Grubbs
    Lofton
    Chamberlain
    Bunkley
    Hawthrone

    Players dont seem to mind comming here.

    —————————————————-

    Yeah; they know there will be starting slots open after bounty discipline is handed out.

  22. 808raiderinparadise says: Apr 3, 2012 6:01 PM

    Ahhhh this guy isn’t a head coach too by chance is he?

  23. markcrodriguez says: Apr 3, 2012 6:06 PM

    Scott Shanle and Jonathan Vilma are getting released.

  24. darthsaint says: Apr 3, 2012 6:07 PM

    For the guys hoping upon hoping that the Saints are dealt additional death blows. Shefter, who seems to be right more than he is wrong, reported today that suspensions will affect defensive captains and the leaders of the team.

    He named several Saints players including Vilma and Smith. I think all of this will play out. But I think the league is showing real signs of this already playing out well beyond what they had hoped. As most do, I expect to see the longest suspension for Vilma. But the fact that the NFL is asking the NFLPA for an idea of what is acceptable…tells you everything you need to know. The NFL fears a drawn out fight with the players union an will not come down nearly as hard as they have already.

    So everyone can keep hating on the Saints. Saying they should get their rings stripped. Saying they are the most hated team. Saying they should just crawl under a table die. In the meantime, the Saints have had one of their best offseasons in as long as I can remember. Yes, Brees is not yet signed to a long term contract. I believe that will find a way of working itself out. He WAS offered top player in the league money. His agent wants more. Both sides will need to compromise to get it done…and that WILL happen as the season gets closer. He’ll use OTAs as addtional leverage but eventually…he either signs his franchise tag and plays for 14mill, or he compromises a bit and signs a deal that still makes him the top paid player in the game. Either way…you will see Brees as the starting QB for the Saints next year.

  25. sweetnlow44 says: Apr 3, 2012 6:12 PM

    Congrats, Saints! You’ll love the Heater. Hell of a ball player and we’ll miss him in Seattle for sure!!

  26. howmanyringsyourteamgot says: Apr 3, 2012 6:21 PM

    No doubt they’ve added some nice pieces to the D but there’s an unsigned QB maybe you’ve heard of him…..

    Pretty obvious Vilma is gone one way or the other. His role in Bountygate is well documented but a guy whose name I keep waiting to hear about is Roman Harper, that guy takes more cheap shots than anybody in the league. The hit on Steve Smith after he scored was ridiculous and par for the course, maybe they look at SS in the draft.

  27. rajuncajun28 says: Apr 3, 2012 6:51 PM

    the only people that care about the bounty are the jealous saints haters and pft….rest of america says “geaux saints”….can’t wait until we win Lomardi #2 this year…our D is stacked….our O is loaded….fact….stay classy, haters….

  28. bigredscouting says: Apr 3, 2012 6:55 PM

    So I get that Vilma won’t be there, but apperently the Saints are signing linebackers for each of the 3 spots. Lofton, Tatupu, and now Hawthorne. Thats a dangerous 3some.

  29. wayupsouth says: Apr 3, 2012 6:56 PM

    Spags is gonna set the house to rights. Williams, even if he hadn’t started a bounty system, just plain blew. We hung 36 on the Seahawks in 2011, and 39 on the Niners a few months ago, AND LOST. I saw a bunch of guys on D out of position, not tackling, going for kill shots, etc. I’m just looking forward to some real and actual tackling.

    Oh, yes…and welcome to Da Dome, Mr. Hawthorne. Glad to have you.

  30. dkeyser says: Apr 3, 2012 7:04 PM

    howmanyringsyourteamgot says:Apr 3, 2012 6:21 PM

    No doubt they’ve added some nice pieces to the D but there’s an unsigned QB maybe you’ve heard of him…..

    Pretty obvious Vilma is gone one way or the other. His role in Bountygate is well documented but a guy whose name I keep waiting to hear about is Roman Harper, that guy takes more cheap shots than anybody in the league. The hit on Steve Smith after he scored was ridiculous and par for the course, maybe they look at SS in the draft.
    ———————————————————-
    I think most Saints fans who know a thing or two about football would agree that Roman Harper needs to go. The man cannot cover a soul. Its worse than Jason David out there. Now he is above average against the run, but he is burned time after time in coverage. They need to move Jenkins to the SS spot and let Quddus or Amaya take over at FS

  31. purplegreenandgold says: Apr 3, 2012 7:17 PM

    looks like the saints are adding key players to the new and improved defense coming this season. yeah they will b losing players due to suspensions however changes would come anyway due to spags. as a saints fan i dont like what they did however this gives spags a great reason to move forward with his plans.

    those of u that r looking for some demise or dismantling of the saints- it will not happen. take a hint- of the many, many, (and i mean) many stories about the saints in the past month the only mention of player reprimand has been about 20-27 defensive players r under the microscope. reports today surface that a handful will be “targeted”. what the offseason moves tell me is they r replacing who they lost from free-agency and who they will lose thru suspension

    your hate is warrantied, however your hopes and wishes just will not happen because ive been around long enough to know a great offense is a good defense.

  32. kegrun says: Apr 3, 2012 7:20 PM

    Saints fans crack me up.

    First its “We dont need (fill in persons name here). He’s a scrub! They are not worthy to be a Saint, let alone breath the air in the Mercedez Dome. WHO DAT!!”

    Then when they get said player “BEST SIGNING THIS DECADE! LOOMIS IS A GOD! OUR DYNASTY IS THE DYNASTY OF THE DYNASTIES! WHO DAT CRAWFISHIN!!! Brees have my babies”

    TL;DR? Everyone that aint a saint sucks until the saints pick them up.

  33. seatownballers says: Apr 3, 2012 7:24 PM

    Leroy hill should get a 2 year contract now. Its the best option for seattle. Drafting kuechly or upshaw is a safe bet

  34. jason1980 says: Apr 3, 2012 7:25 PM

    Packfaninchitowm: Saints will be wise to sign big names as much of their existing roster will be suspended?? Oh really!! I think we have signed, maybe five new defensive players, we’re good. I love how everybody’s concerned about the Saints roster. Can’t you just hear those knees a knockin’? hah……

  35. cwmorga says: Apr 3, 2012 7:32 PM

    packfaninchitown says: Apr 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    Saints are wise to sign big names since many of their existing roster will be suspended (and rightly so) for BountyGate…
    —————————

    Yes they are! Meanwhile, your team just signed Anthony Hargrove. Remember him from the “Farve is out! Farve is out!” sound bite?

    Go be smug somewhere else.

  36. skilaufenhase says: Apr 3, 2012 7:32 PM

    Who dat team that beat the saints in the playoffs?

    Go niners.

  37. saintswillwin says: Apr 3, 2012 7:33 PM

    Jonathan Vilma is obviously toast. His name is the second most you hear besides Gregg Williams in this cheating scandal. And the only Saints player to be mentioned by name. Man every time I see that Vilma is the only player mentioned like that “Ooooh you’re going to be soooo buusteeed ) keeps coming to mind.

    Hope a tainted Super Bowl ring was worth it because
    Vilma is getting the same as Gregg Williams. And they’re just lucky the league didn’t take away all their rings because Goodell could’ve easily been justified in doing so.

    The Patricheats are the only team that was proven to have cheated!

    Only dog-food eating morons like you call the so-called bounty cheating; even Kommisar Goodell hasn’t accused the Saints of cheating!

    Go back to hating the Saints from the comfort of your Mom’s basement!

  38. nowillrepeat says: Apr 3, 2012 7:45 PM

    Q the really clever and original bounty jokes.
    And Saintswillwin, what SB are you calling tainted? Are you even a Saints fan? F*que what these people think.

  39. skilaufenhase says: Apr 3, 2012 7:49 PM

    I ain’t going to call it cheating, but I will call their players a bunch of dirtbags.

  40. thepvyharvin says: Apr 3, 2012 7:50 PM

    winningisabrees says:
    Apr 3, 2012 5:27 PM
    Bounty What? 5 FA signings this offseason where in PFT Top 100.
    ====================================
    Don’t you get it Saints dolt? It’s all about the money,,,they would play for Satan as long as the checks keep rolling,,,,keep fooling yourselves Sinners fans,,,What Bounty?? The one that tainted your world chumpionship!

  41. mdd913 says: Apr 3, 2012 8:18 PM

    To all the haters and morons: Vilma is not going to get cut because of the bounty crap. Vilma is going to get cut because he was one of the worst middle linebackers in football last year. End of discussion.

  42. tatum064 says: Apr 3, 2012 8:31 PM

    thepvyharvin says:
    Apr 3, 2012 7:50 PM
    winningisabrees says:
    Apr 3, 2012 5:27 PM
    Bounty What? 5 FA signings this offseason where in PFT Top 100.
    ====================================
    Don’t you get it Saints dolt? It’s all about the money,,,they would play for Satan as long as the checks keep rolling,,,,keep fooling yourselves Sinners fans,,,What Bounty?? The one that tainted your world chumpionship!
    ==========================

    As long as Brees drops 400 yards and 3 to 4 TDs every week, players will sign….Parcells would be hard pressed to skip a chance at the limelight.

    Bounty? Suspensions?

    They’re no Saints, but after Katrina, NOTHING IS KEEPING NOLA DOWN!

  43. saintsly says: Apr 3, 2012 8:35 PM

    NFC South is in for a “Reckoning” cause I reckon we gonna be wreckin some a$$………………Watch out Newton, Matte ice, and who ever is in Tampa

  44. dd393 says: Apr 3, 2012 8:50 PM

    “The Saints linebacking corps is going to look very different next season.”

    Yeah, most of last year’s starters will be wearing a suspension instead of a uniform.

  45. iberiasaint says: Apr 3, 2012 8:59 PM

    These really good signing must really chap Commissioner Roger Goodell arse. He can try to destroy this team but will not succeed. We DAT

  46. southcakpanther says: Apr 3, 2012 9:08 PM

    Saint fans are the trashiest bandwagon chumps in the NFL. Period.

  47. deathtoromo says: Apr 3, 2012 9:34 PM

    ” And here’s your Bounty Handbook , David. Welcome to New Orleans. “

  48. vtopa says: Apr 3, 2012 9:58 PM

    Just sign Brees and Parcells will deliver a Lombardi to Sean Payton at his house in Dallas.

    Sorry haters? You mad bro?

  49. andyreidisfat says: Apr 3, 2012 10:11 PM

    I don’t get saints fans. They are excited by getting two middle line backers it would seem no one else really wanted to pay. A dt that even Andy (I love fats guys) Reid traded for a bag of cheeseburgers.

    Perhaps I am not seeing it. How does losing one of the best MLB in football and even more than that one of the best leaders in the league on d and replacing him with two inferior talents make your team better ??? Or signing a guy Denver didn’t want ? But not signing your hof qb. Lost your second best wr. Lost perhaps the top guard in the nfl and again replaced him with inferior talent.

    I think the saints may well have been in trouble before bounty gate. They better get an impact type guy in the first round this year.

  50. saintij says: Apr 3, 2012 10:24 PM

    This is the most press on the SAINTS I’ve seen in like…forever.

    The funny thing is most of it ,that is HEAD LINES ,is pretty much bad. All the brave bloggers comfortably behind their key custom key boards spewing all kinds of harsh, unkind words behind “BOUNTY GATE” and the SUPERBOWL season of ’09, In which after the season quarterbacks retired ,rules were changed (overtime), and apparently hell froze over……

    to my p0int ….. FOR ALL THE HATERs AND ASTERISK GIVERs………Hows it taste? ??????….

    the hate and jealously ….. always remember that the SAINTS did win the superbowl and have been a playoff team since SEAN ,DREW AND LOOMIS showed up! (and probably SMASHED your team as a routine) remember your talking from the base of
    “MOUNT WHO DAT” speak louder i can barely hear you……..suckasaaaaas

  51. packfaninchitown says: Apr 3, 2012 11:56 PM

    cwmorga wrote:
    Yes they are! Meanwhile, your team just signed Anthony Hargrove. Remember him from the “Farve is out! Farve is out!” sound bite?

    Go be smug somewhere else.
    I prefer to be smug here thank you. :P

  52. twodat says: Apr 4, 2012 12:13 AM

    Am in awe of what the Saints have been able to pull off on the defense. Offense loaded If we fairly treated by officials, I say we are looking good. Thought this would be a rebuilding year

  53. dobberdubinsky says: Apr 4, 2012 12:41 AM

    Yep Taints fans, enjoy the good news while it lasts, pretty soon you’ll be dawning more familiar attire……

    WHO DAT!
    WHO DAT!

    WHO DAT UNDER DEM PAPER BAG HATS!!!

  54. bnwpnw says: Apr 4, 2012 12:46 AM

    Seattle fans will miss the heater.

    Petey and the Schneide? Clearly not so much.

  55. dobberdubinsky says: Apr 4, 2012 12:47 AM

    This is the most press on the SAINTS I’ve seen in like…forever.

    The funny thing is most of it ,that is HEAD LINES ,is pretty much bad. All the brave bloggers comfortably behind their key custom key boards spewing all kinds of harsh, unkind words behind “BOUNTY GATE” and the SUPERBOWL season of ’09, In which after the season quarterbacks retired ,rules were changed (overtime), and apparently hell froze over……

    to my p0int ….. FOR ALL THE HATERs AND ASTERISK GIVERs………Hows it taste? ??????….

    the hate and jealously ….. always remember that the SAINTS did win the superbowl and have been a playoff team since SEAN ,DREW AND LOOMIS showed up! (and probably SMASHED your team as a routine) remember your talking from the base of
    “MOUNT WHO DAT” speak louder i can barely hear you……..suckasaaaaas

    ———————————————-

    What a loser………

     

  56. kingfish4242 says: Apr 4, 2012 12:50 AM

    andyreidisfat says:
    Apr 3, 2012 10:11 PM
    I don’t get saints fans. They are excited by getting two middle line backers it would seem no one else really wanted to pay. A dt that even Andy (I love fats guys) Reid traded for a bag of cheeseburgers.

    Perhaps I am not seeing it. How does losing one of the best MLB in football and even more than that one of the best leaders in the league on d and replacing him with two inferior talents make your team better ??? Or signing a guy Denver didn’t want ? But not signing your hof qb. Lost your second best wr. Lost perhaps the top guard in the nfl and again replaced him with inferior talent.

    I think the saints may well have been in trouble before bounty gate. They better get an impact type guy in the first round this year.

    ———————————————–

    Vilma isn’t the same player anymore. He’s had chronic knee problems since he played at the U. He missed several games the past 2 seasons due to those. Age and the wear and tear of playing in the NFL has caught up with him.

    When we first signed Vilma,he was making tackles on outside runs that used to go for long yardage the year before. He simply can’t run down those Rb’s anymore and can’t run with TE’s down the seam anymore. I am happy that he helped bring us a ring,but it’s getting close to the time he needs to retire.

  57. ilovefoolsball says: Apr 4, 2012 1:44 AM

    Yeah much like many others have said,
    haters gonna hate,
    with or without bountygate,
    Go ahead and take the bait,
    We’ll be lookin forward to your team’s date ;)

  58. daknight93 says: Apr 4, 2012 1:51 AM

    nice pick up by saints…while Goodell continues to fill the media with lies about a bounty program in new orleans..the saints are continuing to improve our defense and get better as a team…we are ignoring the nonsense and drama caused by goodell and his goons…this isn’t a movie folks..bounty is described as cash reward to capture someone…this is football folks, who are we capturing? Goodell got the media and nfl fans brainwashed into believing there’s a bounty…lmfao!!! saints ignored and told goodell there’s no such thing as a bounty which is true…saints didn’t lie or cover anything…the truth is saints had an incentive program just like most nfl teams for extra motivational purposes to get extra cash for ints, sacks, legal big hits and game changing plays….when the truth comes out goodell and his goons will look foolish and goodell is an idiot who has never played the game and doesn’t understand the game of football…how can there be a bounty in football, players are not capturing other players…this bounty crap is so stupid and fans are brainwashed to believe this crap in the media…anyway, saints will overcome this nonsense by goodell and his goons.

  59. trollaikman8 says: Apr 4, 2012 2:16 AM

    Bounty-incentive-laden contract.

  60. packfaninchitown says: Apr 4, 2012 6:59 AM

    while Goodell continues to fill the media with lies about a bounty program in new orleans..
    __________________________
    Wow denial much?

  61. sj39 says: Apr 4, 2012 8:38 AM

    Better keep signing defense. Gonna need them when the suspensions are handed down.

  62. kingfish4242 says: Apr 4, 2012 8:41 AM

    daknight93 says:
    Apr 4, 2012 1:51 AM

    Goodell got the media and nfl fans brainwashed into believing there’s a bounty…lmfao!!! saints ignored and told goodell there’s no such thing as a bounty which is true…saints didn’t lie or cover anything…the truth is saints had an incentive program just like most nfl teams for extra motivational purposes to get extra cash for ints, sacks, legal big hits and game changing plays….when the truth comes out goodell and his goons will look foolish and goodell is an idiot who has never played the game and doesn’t understand the game of football

    —————————————–

    You’re not going to find a bigger Saints fan on here than me,but you’re wrong here.

    The Trophy and Ring won’t be tainted,but the Saints reputation certainly is. What Gregg Williams did was simply against the rules. No matter what you call it,that extra cash isn’t in the players contract and thus illegal.

    I know it happens league wide and has been part of NFL culture since the 1950’s. I chuckled a bit at Peter Kings article where he said he stepped into the conference room at the NFL owners meeting. On the big screen,the NFLN’s 10 most feared tacklers was playing. #5 was LB Hardy Brown who admitted the Rams had a 500.00 bounty on him. King quipped if the NFL wants to stop this culture,it shouldn’t be playing this clip especially at the owners meeting.

    That said, the length and severity of the punishment can be debated. The fact the program was illegal can’t.

    I’ll also admit Gregg Williams behaved like a dirtbag during his time here. I am also glad he’s gone. Bountygate or not, our defense stunk overall. I wanted him gone after 2010 and replaced by a coordinator who played more sound and fundamental schemes. I’ll go to my grave believing if Williams had called a soft zone instead of 2 all out blitzes, the Niners wouldn’t have driven the length of the field in 40 seconds and we would have went on to the Super bowl and not the Giants.

    Giant fans- You are the champs and deservedly so. I just believe the Saints would have beaten them had the NFCCG been played in the Superdome.

  63. 1whodat says: Apr 4, 2012 10:39 AM

    This is a sure way to beef up our linebacking corps, even if our previous experienced players doesn’t serve a suspension we will have one of the best linebacking corps in the league maybe the remake of the “dome patrol”

  64. darthsaint says: Apr 4, 2012 10:51 AM

    As I pointed out earlier, Shefter has reported that the NFL will only target the defensive leaders of the team. Fans of other teams who think 10+ Saints from the active roster are about to receive suspensions are probably HOPING for that outcome instead of listening to the reports.

    I also pointed out earlier that the NFL is asking the NFLPA for an idea on what would be acceptable. This is proof that the NFL fears any drawn out appeals process, litigation, etc, from cracking down on players. The union will appeal anything the NFL hands down. So they are much more likely to try and strike a “deal” that quickly handles this situation.

    I fully expect to see multi-game suspensions for Vilma, Hargrove, Smith, Fujita, and Harper. Two of those players, play for other teams now however. If the suspensions range 4 or less games…the Saints should be perfectly fine. If Goodell gets crazy and does a Payton to these players…then that will be a different story. But Goodell already is on the defensive for the Payton ruling, I really don’t see him trying to add gas to that fire. If anything, the NFL now seems to be in the mode of trying to put the fire out as quickly as possible.

    Saints will have do deal with suspensions, no doubt. But I really think it is wishful thinking on the part of fans of other teams, or as some call them, haters, that think this will be some crippling blow that makes the Saints non-competitive in 2012.

  65. nowillrepeat says: Apr 4, 2012 11:16 AM

    Giant fans- You are the champs and deservedly so. I just believe the Saints would have beaten them had the NFCCG been played in the Superdome.
    —————————————-
    The giants get destroyed in the Superdome

  66. darthsaint says: Apr 4, 2012 11:39 AM

    @andyreidisfat

    You pointed out how Saints fans are delusional and seem to lose loyalty towards Vilma. I don’t agree with you at all. I think you are basing your decisions on opinion and not fact.

    Vilma was great for us, well worth what we traded to the Jets. At the time it was unknown…he was coming off his first micro-fraction knee surgery. But he proved the gamble right for the Saints.

    However he has been since then, ongoing diminished returns. I give you FACTS which normally make the best arguments. Seriously, just look at the actual production over the past three years. The Saints added younger players who appear to be getting better each year. Vilma, unfortunately, seems to be going in the opposite direction. He still has football left in him. But please quit acting like the Saints fans are delusional…the STATS/FACTS speak for themselves.

    FACT – both Loften and Hawthorne have played ALL 3 LB positions. Both were considered 2 of the top 3 LBs available in FA. True, they both settled at MLB for their respective teams last season. But both are versatile and capable of plugging in wherever needed.

    STAT FACTS –
    Vilma G GS TK Sck PD INT FF
    2011 11 11 54 0.0 2 0 1
    2010 16 16 105 4.0 3 1 3
    2009 15 15 110 2.0 8 3 0
    2008 16 16 132 1.0 6 1 2

    Lofton G GS TK Sck PD INT FF
    2011 16 16 147 1.0 7 2 1
    2010 16 16 118 2.0 3 1 3
    2009 16 16 133 0.0 2 0 2
    2008 16 15 94 1.0 3 0 1

    Hawthorne G GS TK Sck PD INT FF
    2011 15 15 115 2.0 6 3 1
    2010 16 16 106 1.0 4 1 3
    2009 16 16 117 4.0 5 3 2

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