Comments on: Combine president says an accommodation is available for the Wonderlic http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 23 May 2013 14:19:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: granadafan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1704293 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:06:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1704293 “geniusesq says: Apr 4, 2012 10:32 PM
Let’s see. Would I rather have a High Wonderlic and a Low Forty Time? or
Low Wonderlic and a High Forty time?

Hmmmm. I’ll take a Wonderlic score lower than my Forty time for $30Million Alex.”

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Given a very low Wonderlic score and being functionally illiterate, you’ll be broke within 2 years. Guaranteed.

Back to the story. Either Bus Cook is the worst agent in the country in not preparing his client or they invented this story about a learning disability. Also, they are not specifying what learning disability Claiborne supposedly has and who “diagnosed” it. If LSU coach Les Miles “diagnosed” it then this this disability is a sham.

]]> By: godfatherd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1704268 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:57:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1704268 steeelfann says:
Apr 5, 2012 8:03 AM
Why do we keep talking about “leaked” reports when it comes to the Wonderlic? They don’t”t leak the 40 yard dash, they don’t leak the bench press or the shuttle. Your 40 time is who you are. Your Wonderlic score is who you are.

Why are we so PRIVATE about the mental aspect but public about the physical tests?

You are what your scores are.

It is like hiding something, sealing things up. Why? Why would you have your college records sealed up? What are you hiding?

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Seriously, you think peoples college records should be public? I’ve always been a personal liberty and privacy man myself

]]> By: steeelfann http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702430 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:03:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702430 Why do we keep talking about “leaked” reports when it comes to the Wonderlic? They don’t”t leak the 40 yard dash, they don’t leak the bench press or the shuttle. Your 40 time is who you are. Your Wonderlic score is who you are.

Why are we so PRIVATE about the mental aspect but public about the physical tests?

You are what your scores are.

It is like hiding something, sealing things up. Why? Why would you have your college records sealed up? What are you hiding?

]]> By: kokomike http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702404 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:54:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702404 Imagine if everyone in your company had to take the test. Your boss would probably score under a 10.

]]> By: wicky888 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702298 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:08:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702298 The reason these guys score so low most of the time is that have been given “accommodations” throughout their whole educational careers.

]]> By: samlv4 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702290 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702290 After reading some of the above comments….. Wow..
This kid in not stupid. He could have learning differences that have never been address. These issues should have been address at an earlier time in his life. Most of these go undiagnosed due to the school systems. Then they just keep passing him through the system. He had an athletic gift. So he went to college. Most of our founding fathers had learning difficulties. Einstein could not tie his shoes until 9 yr old. Bill Gates is another. The list goes on. Would any of you say these guy are stupid? 1 out of 5 have a learning disability and are covered by the American Disability Act. Think before you attack another. This does not affect how intelligent you are you just learn different.

]]> By: douc66 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702270 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:44:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702270 There is another consideration to why some agents may not choose the “accommodation” avenue: how would it look if you said your client had a learning disability? The first thing in a lot of people’s mind (and judging by the remarks here, this bears out to be true) that the guy is “dumb”, a label which could potentially lose your guy millions. A college playbook is one thing; however, in the NFL where most talent are about equal, intelligence will also play a factor. So, of course your not going to fess up that your guy may have a learning disability…

]]> By: piemasteruk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702239 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:59:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702239 I don’t want to sound coldhearted, but why should he get special accomodation if he has a learning disability? What next? Do overweight players get their 40 times lowered? Do players with a dignosed drug addictions get a ‘do over’ on their blood test?

]]> By: jimbo75025 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702216 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:08:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702216 sportsmeccabi says:
Apr 4, 2012 9:40 PM
Can we be told what this learning disability is?

My cousin has “a learning disability”. That’s what the doctor said anyway, but the reality is her learning disability is she doesn’t care about her education and is just an idiot.
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Agreed, if you want to claim handicap put all the cards on the table.

In this day and age I am quite sure everyone here could find a doctor to claim that they had a learning disability if they wanted to.

The ability of someone to process info in todays complex defensive schemes and needed changes based on offensive looks is certainly an important factor. If I was a GM, would I draft a player who had gone to college for 3 years at a minimum and could not get a decent score on a test that had questions on months of the year and fractions-no way.

]]> By: randomcommenter http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702201 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:44:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702201 He went to an SEC school which means if the combine gave him the same accommodations, they would either just give him a passing grade for no reason, or allow a 5 ft tall exchange student take it for him.

On the bright side for him, the NFL only seems to care about wonderlic scores for a few positions (QB, OL, Safety, and MLB)

]]> By: drozman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702131 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:15:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702131 I’m very sad to see that it is so easy to blatantly make fun of a human being just because he did very poorly on a test. Would you do it if he were standing in front of you? Nope, because you’re a coward. No one cares what you scored on the test, since you will not be drafted and will not sign a million dollar contract in your life. I’d take a four and his future earnings over a 50 and your earnings plus your bullying attitude towards a young man that has done nothing but earn a living that most of us wish we could have. Enjoy your cubicle, no wonder your life is made better by bashing another human…your life is meaningless.

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702077 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:44:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702077 flowadelph says:Apr 4, 2012 10:11 PM

One thing for certain another for sure he will be wealthier than all of us. You don’t have to be a genius to be successful. Hard work prevails.
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Are you equating “success” with income? If you think money is the answer then it’s really not how much you make but how much you have. Check out some of these players five years after they retire and are forced to declare bankruptcy. You’ll understand what I mean.

]]> By: randomguy9999 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702067 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:38:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702067 If I were hiring guys for this job I would definitely want to know if they could look at a written problem and figure out a potential answer to it quickly….

Because that is what players should be doing the entire week before the game: studying everything I provide them on the other team and doing all they can to improve what they are going to do Sunday …. instead of relying on bs football IQ from high school.

It is totally insane to suggest players shouldn’t even be tested As to their mental abilities to reason, interpret, and solve problems….. Its like saying they shouldn’t have to throw…. Just trust them on it…..

]]> By: htwaits77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702065 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:36:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702065 Student-athletes at LSU? I don’t believe it. Nope, it’ll never happen.

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702059 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:33:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702059 jcspiggle says:Apr 4, 2012 9:33 PM

Why don’t the agents make every kid boycott that stupid test?
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No way I’d boycott the test If I’m a bright Ivy League grad or a member of Mensa. A good score only enhances my marketability.

]]> By: garyman1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702052 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:28:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702052 Out of curiosity, I just took an on-line wonderlic test… and got a 23…and I’m an idiot. It’s not that difficult.

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702045 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:25:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702045 Why shouldn’t the scores be public knowledge in the first place? All the physical measurables and combine results are public information. The fans know that some of these guys are dumber than rocks and without the NFL would more than likely be unable to support themselves.

]]> By: maxl49 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702044 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:25:43 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702044 Frank Gore scored a 6 and he turned ok … One of the best blitz bickup back in the game …

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702030 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:18:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702030 … multiple reports indicate that Claiborne has a learning disability.
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Yeah, he has a disability all right. He has a room temperature IQ.

]]> By: pir8life http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702021 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:12:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702021 From a four letter article:
Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., says, “A score of 10 is literacy, that’s about all we can say.”

NFL averages:
Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:
Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

]]> By: footballisking http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702019 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:09:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702019 I am with the above poster..Please explain more on this combine president, what does this man do and where can I apply for this gig..the scouting service (which are scouts who couldnt make it in the nfl) make the list of who goes, the teams assistant coaches run the drills, and we cant even get a consistent official 40 yard dash time on one single player…so what does this man do?????

]]> By: steviaquinn http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1702005 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:53:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1702005 4/50 tells me you never had to work hard at something you struggled with. Of course, he probably had many enablers that made that possible.

In the NFL, you will struggle.

]]> By: pir8life http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701995 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:49:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701995 Sorry, a 4? Really? The Bucs will probably end up taking him (right Ronde?)

Google “sample wonderlic questions” and take the test yourself… Most questions are multiple choice (or “multiple guess” in this case.)

[b]He got a FOUR! [/b]

]]> By: jazzytrav http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701986 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:44:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701986 I wouldn’t be surprised if the leak actually came from a team that wants Claiborne…perhaps someone drafting in the 10-15 range. If you get the fans to think he’s an idiot, like many people have been posting here and elsewhere, it may cause teams with top draft picks to rethink their selection.

I get that the idea is to judge how well a player can read-and-react, but you don’t get to the highest level of college football and play as well as Claiborne did with a true read-and-react competence of 4 out of 50. Make all the jokes you want about tutors doing his homework, but I’m pretty sure a tutor didn’t make all those incredible plays on the field.

]]> By: geniusesq http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701966 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:32:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701966 Let’s see. Would I rather have a High Wonderlic and a Low Forty Time?

or

Low Wonderlic and a High Forty time?

Hmmmm. I’ll take a Wonderlic score lower than my Forty time for $30Million Alex.

]]> By: geniusesq http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701961 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:30:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701961 Yes. An accommodation is available for the Wonderlic. It’s called a couple million dollars.

]]> By: babyhorsemorgan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701958 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:29:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701958 There is accomodation available for the Wonderlic. If you test high, your accomodation will be on the upper floor. If you test low your accomodation will be in a basement suite.

]]> By: mtheparrothead http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701937 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:19:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701937 He is also given square and circular pegs, and asked to put them in the appropriate slots.

]]> By: 7to10for6allday http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701935 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:18:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701935 He’s just stupid…..as long as he can play football. And I don’t want to hear oh poor him. That illiterate bum is about to make millions of dollars and if he helps your team win, you will care less about his stupidity than you do now.

]]> By: sullijo1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/04/combine-president-says-an-accommodation-i-available-for-the-wonderlic/#comment-1701921 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:11:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=490936#comment-1701921 How do I get the job of “combine president.”

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