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Before final game, Gregg Williams urged Saints to injure 49ers

File photo of New Orleans Saints' Williams watching his team prepare for NFL football game against Tampa Bay Buccaneers in New Orleans Reuters

Before his final game as defensive coordinator of the New Orleans Saints, Gregg Williams stepped before his players and urged them to physically hurt players on the 49ers.

Audio of Williams’ speech to the Saints’ defense was captured by filmmaker Sean Pamphilon, who is working on a documentary about former Saints player Steve Gleason, who is suffering from ALS. Pamphilon has put part of the audio of the profanity-filled speech on YouTube.

Pamphilon also passed on the audio to Michael Silver of Yahoo Sports because, he said, he was extremely uncomfortable with what Williams said about trying to hurt 49ers quarterback Alex Smith and other players. Williams, who masterminded the Saints’ bounty program, hinted that he would financially reward a Saints player who hurts a 49ers player.

“At one point Williams says, ‘We hit [expletive] Smith right there’ – then he points under his chin [and continues] – ‘remember me.’ Then he rubs his thumb against his index and middle fingers – the cash sign – and says, ‘I got the first one. I got the first one. Go get it. Go lay that [expletive] out,’” Pamphilon told Silver.

Williams has long loved the phrase, “Kill the head and the body will die,” and he used that phrase in talking to his players. He also specifically told them to go for the head of 49ers running back Frank Gore.

“We’ve got to do everything in the world to make sure we kill Frank Gore’s head,” Williams told his players. “We want him running sideways. We want his head sideways.”

Williams also talked about trying to inflict a knee injury on 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree and referenced 49ers receiver Kyle Williams, who has had multiple concussions.

“We need to find out in the first two series of the game, the little wide receiver, No. 10, about his concussion,” Gregg Williams told his players about Kyle Williams. “We need to [expletive] put a lick on him, move him to decide. He needs to decide.”

Gregg Williams has already been indefinitely suspended by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. This audio may make it difficult for Williams ever to get reinstated. This is the smoking gun that makes crystal clear that Williams wanted his players not just to play tough, physical defense, but to injure their opponents.

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  1. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:34 AM

    A speech not unlike the one every defensive coordinator in the history of football has made before a big game.

    Keep in mind the 49ers are known to have called this a “body bag game.” The players know the score, even if the commissioner and a bunch of the fans want to hide their collective heads in the sand.

  2. deathtoromo says: Apr 5, 2012 7:34 AM

    Wow man what a d*ck.. Dude is just evil.

  3. joelvis72 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:35 AM

    Instead it was Pierre Thomas who was taken out by a helmet-to-helmet hit.

  4. jenniferxxx says: Apr 5, 2012 7:35 AM

    Oh yeah, nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all. Just a little incentive. All the teams do it. Right. Sure they do.

    OK Saints fans … let’s see you justify this one.

  5. truthhurtstoo says: Apr 5, 2012 7:36 AM

    he is a pig. the who dat crowd should be ashamed for trying to support this punk.

  6. jarathen says: Apr 5, 2012 7:36 AM

    I understand that football is going to test a player’s recovery for injuries as players go all-out to win, but to go out and order such specific hits, to try to end careers, it’s just sickening.

  7. ecupatsfan12 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:36 AM

    Sick, just flat out wrong. Williams should never set foot in a football locker room for the remainder of his life.

  8. nyjad says: Apr 5, 2012 7:37 AM

    You’re damn right I called the code red!!!

  9. geefan1 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:38 AM

    Goodell should send a copy to the Louisiana Committee on Senate and Governmental Affairs…

  10. dldove77 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:39 AM

    What a total douche. And the Saints’ fans will continue to say they were too harshly punished? Give me a break.

  11. mindcrime401 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:40 AM

    There’s a huge difference between being aggressive and being malicious. There’s no room in the game for a guy like this. Just make it official and slap a lifetime ban on him.

  12. 49erstim says: Apr 5, 2012 7:40 AM

    Wow. Just listened. What a D-Bag. There is your proof kool-aid drinkers.

  13. Jay says: Apr 5, 2012 7:40 AM

    Who paid Donte Whitner?

  14. unfkwthabl says: Apr 5, 2012 7:42 AM

    I knew it was bad.. but damn

    Banned for life.

    Really surprised no one in the locker room spoke out against this.

  15. seatownballers says: Apr 5, 2012 7:42 AM

    This guy is done

  16. mendenhallfumblemachine says: Apr 5, 2012 7:43 AM

    That’s just too far.

  17. jimthebuilder27 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:44 AM

    Can’t wait for more Saints fans to continue to claim that they’re still the victim despite this evidence.

  18. hound44 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:44 AM

    All of you worthless TROLLS should have fun beating this dead horse!!!!! DISGUSTING!

  19. ravenator says: Apr 5, 2012 7:44 AM

    Greg Williams, you are the weakest link!

  20. richkotitte says: Apr 5, 2012 7:45 AM

    Stuff like that opens pandora’s box for players injured by Saints suing in civil court…

    What a mess, Greg Williams is gone for good, rightfully so..

    Thank goodness the NFL brand is so strong it will polish away this blemish..

    It’s a violent game, and people will be injured. “The QB must go down hard ” is part of the game..but NOT with “attempt to injure” head and knee shots!

  21. qcsfinest704 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:46 AM

    Coming from a DIE HARD 49ers fan this is funny. Hurt the 49ers? Dont make me laugh. For all this bounty crap can someone PLEASE tell me who the Saints actually put out of a game? This is a joke. The Saints are as soft as summertime ice cream and now they are the NFL tuff guys? Stop it.

    Hey Williams, pay my man Donte Whitner his money since your bitch ass runningback Pierre Thomas was the only guy I saw get carted off the field.

  22. sportsmeccabi says: Apr 5, 2012 7:47 AM

    What? No money?

  23. arbiterflick says: Apr 5, 2012 7:48 AM

    And just like that, any chance of reinstatement is gone forever.

    Good riddance.

  24. willconn says: Apr 5, 2012 7:49 AM

    But Sean Payton knew nothing? If I was Goodell I would take on another $500k for being so arrogant

  25. faulkn22 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:49 AM

    WOW……. Disgusting.

  26. hound44 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:49 AM

    Did they take Alex Smith OUT? NO
    Did they go after Kyle Williams? NO (I believe the GIANTS already confessed to that)
    Did they go after Frank Gore’s head? NO
    Come on trolls get pass your HATE and take your fricking blinders off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. themonster49 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:50 AM

    Evidence is only going to be more compelling. This is just the beginning, he said that with a film maker in the room. Wait until we have hidden audio or video or testimomy from multiple witnesses, it will be and sound a whole lot worse than what we just heard him say.

  28. RavenzGunnerz says: Apr 5, 2012 7:50 AM

    ok, that is evil.

    but it seems the 9ers got a copy of this tape well before the game.

  29. majorcowboyfan4life says: Apr 5, 2012 7:51 AM

    Wow..that is tough to listen to..I hope the appeals of all of the coaches are rejected quickly..there is a difference in “hitting them hard to show what you are made of” as opposed to “take them out of the game”…why in the world don’t the RAMS fire this guy already??

  30. andyreidsskinnyjeans says: Apr 5, 2012 7:52 AM

    Bye Greg Williams. Sean Payton u better not whine now, you let this happen.

  31. steelernationsparksjealousy says: Apr 5, 2012 7:52 AM

    “Kill the f’ing head”
    “He becomes human when we take out that outside ACL”

    Charming…

  32. skoobyfl says: Apr 5, 2012 7:53 AM

    Modern day coliseum.

  33. rockthered1286 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:53 AM

    While I understand he’s saying whatever he can to fire his guys up, it shouldn’t take THIS much to do that. If you can’t motivate your players to do their job without addressing money and injuring the other team, that’s flat out weak. Want a prime example of the right way? Listen to a Ray Lewis pre-game speech. We hear every one at home games over loud speaker. He makes every man on that team proud to be a Raven and gets that fire burning to go out and give your heart and soul to this team and put it all on the line.

    I can’t wait to hear Aints fans justify this one.

  34. justanotherdummy says: Apr 5, 2012 7:54 AM

    Williams is just a bad guy, plain and simple. It is going to be many, many moons before he works in the NFL again, if ever. RG is going to hang him high as an example of how to end your career.

  35. 6ball says: Apr 5, 2012 7:54 AM

    .

    Memo to Eli Manning : although you beat the team I follow in the Super Bowl, I never wished for you to be injured during the game.

    This is indicative of what’s accepted in America today. Lying, cheating and stealing have become part of our culture.

    .

  36. j0esixpack says: Apr 5, 2012 7:55 AM

    Williams can expect the NFL to apply the same principle to his discipline. “Kill the head” of this type of practice and the body of the practice elsewhere will die.

  37. vbe2 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:56 AM

    He’s toast, he’ll never be allowed back into the NFL. Colleges may never even want to have any part of him after all of this.

    Toast.

    Burnt toast.

  38. jimyritz says: Apr 5, 2012 7:56 AM

    Is anymore evidence needed? Saint’s fans need to wake up and be pissed off at their team: the Owner, GM and Head Coach–not at the league.

    Payton is lucky that he is going to be allowed to coach again….Doesn’t look so good for Greg Williams…

  39. truthfactory says: Apr 5, 2012 7:57 AM

    I wonder if Drew Brees was around that speech. That would be a pretty clear indicator that he was lying when he said he knew nothing about it.

  40. faulkn22 says: Apr 5, 2012 7:59 AM

    Makes me want to hear what he said versus other teams, too.

  41. vincentbojackson says: Apr 5, 2012 8:00 AM

    Based on what we know now, this sounds pretty bad for Williams.

    However, if I heard this a couple months ago I probably wouldn’t have had an issue with anything he said.

  42. bigwinintx says: Apr 5, 2012 8:00 AM

    It’s easy to yell for the players to inflict pain on their opponents when you’re sitting on the sidelines gloating.

    Cheapshot artist is what Williams will always be remembered for.

  43. phinmick says: Apr 5, 2012 8:01 AM

    What about the Niners? Was there a secret bounty on Pierre Thomas? Just wondering if Carlos Rogers has to now see the commish since he talked about it!

  44. j0esixpack says: Apr 5, 2012 8:01 AM

    Of course, to the majority of idiot fans, all this still pales in comparison to the Patriots placing a signal filming camera on the sidelines rather than in the stands as the rules allow.

  45. sj39 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:02 AM

    dd913 said it the best. That speech can be heard in EVERY NFL locker room. If you don’t understand that you are just a fan of a team in the same division/conference as the Aints or they beat your team up in a game etc; and you just want them punished. They should and are being punished but that little speech should have nothing to do with it.

  46. iluvwikileaks says: Apr 5, 2012 8:03 AM

    This stuff makes James Harrison look like a choir boy:)

    GO STEELERS!!

  47. tropicpurple says: Apr 5, 2012 8:04 AM

    Disturbing. Sad thing is, $aints fans will say every coach says that.

  48. gilamu says: Apr 5, 2012 8:06 AM

    In New Orleans here, and not defending Williams’s statements.

    But the Giants admitted that they too targeted Kyle Williams because of his concussions, as reported here on PFT.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/concussions-take-on-a-strategic-component/

    The bounty system was wrong. but the league, by only punishing the Saints and refusing to consider any evidence that any other team is doing a bounty program (beyond a cursory “We looked and we didn’t find anything”) is only going to have to deal with this again.

  49. theandy59 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:06 AM

    I think with this audio, this investigation has now crossed the line. This is criminal. Williams is indisputably admonishing his players to hit opponents in the head, repeatedly. He even tells them to hit the head when getting off the pile (in other words, after the whistle). If you can’t tell the difference between telling your guys to hit hard vs. telling them to hit hard in the head, the chin, take out a guy’s ACL, well there’s simply no point in debating with you because you’re a moron.

  50. xxbomberxx says: Apr 5, 2012 8:07 AM

    Oh the irony, because the 49ers knocked the snot out of the Saints that game….

  51. deathtoromo says: Apr 5, 2012 8:07 AM

    He missed his calling in 1940s Germany.

  52. jimmysee says: Apr 5, 2012 8:08 AM

    Conspiracy to commit battery.

    Convene the grand jury.

  53. citynative says: Apr 5, 2012 8:08 AM

    As a Niners fan, Im not naive and believe that this speech and type of play goes on league-wide. But for the amount of chirping Saints fans after the divisional game – you had one classless franchise for a couple years. You deserve what your getting right now.

  54. packattack1967 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:08 AM

    Gregg Williams looks like a guy that got Rat Tailed in the shower on a regular basis. Ban him for life.

  55. inthearex says: Apr 5, 2012 8:09 AM

    Every coach stresses being physical. We all understand this. But the intent behind Williams’ motivation is different. It’s specifically to injure and cause harm. It doesn’t take much common sense to understand the difference.

  56. slowclyde86 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:09 AM

    The ability for saints fans to rationalize this whole mess is quite remarkable, sad and embarrassing.

  57. nolahxc says: Apr 5, 2012 8:09 AM

    That audio is pretty horrible though. Gregg Williams really should be suspended for life. This guy should be sent to jail. I wouldn’t want him coaching at ANY LEVEL.

    Pretty damning audio. Wow.

  58. dorian26 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:09 AM

    As a Saints fan this disgusts me, as it should anybody else.

  59. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:10 AM

    ….and the sheeple continue to gather. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

  60. mattolikesthevikes says: Apr 5, 2012 8:10 AM

    Goodell better never let this piece of trash back in the league ever. This guys got some serious issues that he needs to get worked out. I’ve always liked Sean payton but lost respect for him after this because this was definitely a team thing. You can’t deny that nobody knew what was going on. Go coach Mma you idiot. This is football you sick tool.

  61. burningbush66 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:10 AM

    The funny thing about this is that the Niners did all the hitting in the actual game. Apparently this distasteful speech didn’t produce much result on the field. Maybe Williams should’ve been thinking about not sending all out blitzes with a minute to go.

    Williams and the Saints apparently had no concerns about letting this speech be recorded, which is itself interesting for the “everyone does it” thesis.

    Cue more anguished cries from the Vikings fans.

  62. discosucs2005 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:12 AM

    If you listen to the whole audio piece to he repeatedly says to go for the “head.” I think the use of that buzzword is going to be the bigger killer for Williams.

    I totally buy that once you’re actually in a live play you probably don’t have thoughts like “if I hit Alex Smith in the head, I might get $2000″ but I think when your coach continues to make clear what part of the body you’re supposed to target, you might start to drift up towards the head.

    I might have missed an article but did Drew Brees know (how could he not?). If so, I can’t believe he would be ok with this considering he would be the target if Williams had coached for the 49ers that night.

  63. dcviking says: Apr 5, 2012 8:12 AM

    @nyjad –

    I damn near blew soda out my nose…thanks for that.

  64. gmanbirdsfan1971 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:15 AM

    He will never coach again! Is it me, or does he look like he used to be a woman? Lol!

  65. kiltherl says: Apr 5, 2012 8:16 AM

    Okay you found your goat. You sacrificed him to god. Does his limbs taste so good that you have to eat his intestines.

  66. exboomer says: Apr 5, 2012 8:17 AM

    Williams is now the Pete Rose of the NFL. He will never be allowed to coach again.

  67. lolb23 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:17 AM

    Hurry up and get congress involved we can’t have the Aint’s missing out on any draft picks!!

  68. kchi55 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:19 AM

    Just watched the video, love it when Williams says “this is how you get respect in the league”… really misguided there Gregg.

  69. canjura says: Apr 5, 2012 8:19 AM

    After reading his quotes, I STILL see nothing wrong. Carlos Rogers (as in the other article), came short of saying the 49ers use a bounty system. I’d be telling my players to go effin destroy Frank Gore too, he’s easier to break than glass. I’d be telling my players to go smash Alex Smith, Alex Smith has shown he gets rattled once he’s hit a couple of times. All I’ve read above is Gregg Williams saying, “Go hit them hard and we’ll win”. Doesn’t Ray Lewis say the same things before every single game minus the expletives? People need to stop being so freaking sensitive to the way football players talk. I heard worst playing HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL 8 years ago.

  70. jackers252 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:19 AM

    Oh my God, nobody thinks and acts like this mad-man! Anyone who thinks like that should be suspended and not allowed back!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/kyle-williams-concussions-49ers-target-giants-nfl-video_n_1230357.html

    “The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him outta the game,” said Jacquian Williams, who forced the second fumble, in overtime, to set up New York’s game-winning field goal.

    “He’s had a lot of concussions,” said Devin Thomas, who recovered both fumbles. “We were just like, `We gotta put a hit on that guy.'” Later in the same interview, he told the Newark Star-Ledger that teammate and backup safety Tyler Sash “did a great job hitting him early and he looked kind of dazed when he got up. I feel like that made a difference and he coughed it up.”

    That the Giants targeted a vulnerable opponent like Kyle Williams hardly qualifies as news, nor even that they zeroed in on his head. Those tactics, despite all the attention advancing science has focused on the dangers of concussions, were part of football long before helmets became mandatory. More troubling, but hardly news, either, is the implication that it was part of the Giants’ game plan, something that was discussed in the film room or a special-teams meeting among the players, with or without input of the blessing of the coaching staff. It wouldn’t be the first time that happened, either.

  71. expertop says: Apr 5, 2012 8:21 AM

    I can’t help but wonder how Darren Sharper will respond. Or if Drew Brees will need an explanation for this.

  72. truthfactory says: Apr 5, 2012 8:22 AM

    Sean Payton knew exactly what he was getting with this guy… Thats why he used some of his own money to go get him. Having this kind of coach in there was an organizational decision and they all should be punished.

  73. rockstart42 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:22 AM

    People need to get over yourselves. Welcome to the NFL. Just yesterday Colts were quoated as saying they are going to beat people up with their monster they are building.

    Its a violent sport and as long as the hits were not illegal I have no problem with it.

  74. hoops737 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:22 AM

    MAKE HIS ASS QUIT

  75. promickey says: Apr 5, 2012 8:23 AM

    Williams should be done in the NFL and Sean Payton should just shut up without appeal and take his punishment. Criminal Attorneys should weigh in as to weather Gregg Williams can potentially be charged…….

  76. saints25 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:24 AM

    We need to find out in the first two series of the game, the little wide receiver, No. 10, about his concussion,” Gregg Williams told his players about Kyle Williams. “We need to [expletive] put a lick on him, move him to decide. He needs to decide.”
    ————————————————
    NY GIANTS said they went after the same guy

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    Did anyone get hurt for the 49ers?because the only player that was knocked out was P.Thomas<<<< a Saints player.But lets hang the man for trying to get his team ready to play,by using WORDS..

  77. twodat says: Apr 5, 2012 8:25 AM

    Looks like San Fran was listening because they pulverized us

  78. patsfan22 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:26 AM

    Saints fans should start wearing bags over their heads again, this is disgraceful.

    I don’t mind teams getting pumped up and trying to be intense, but to specifically target someone in the head that recently suffered a concussion and go after someone’s ACL is just downright sick.

  79. crabboil says: Apr 5, 2012 8:26 AM

    Don’t forget the Giants admitted targetting the same guy because of his concussions in the NFC Championship game.

    And for the record, not many Saints fans are defending Gregg Williams. It’s Sean Payton we’re defending.

  80. 84sgl says: Apr 5, 2012 8:26 AM

    Not surprised at these comments. But do you non-football players understand that A LOT of coaches talk like this all the time. Now I cannot condone the “money shot, under the chin for cash” statement but everything else is just sideline jargon. Also, there are no rules that protect RB’s heads unless they are a defenseless receiver. You may think hitting a RB in the head is wrong but RB’s use their heads to run over people.. not their torso’s

  81. franktherat96 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:27 AM

    Let’s get something straight. the Saints fans are in no way supporting Gregg Williams….hearing this is disgusting, but don’t say we are supporting Williams. Also keep in mind Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis were NOT in the room during this speech. we are only supporting Sean Payton and Loomis. we do not think that the pay for performance that Williams started was right. we also agree Sean and mickey deserve some type of suspension for their part. what we think is excessive is the suspension they got

  82. pixelito says: Apr 5, 2012 8:29 AM

    A speech not unlike the one every defensive coordinator in the history of football has made before a big game.

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    Completely untrue and downright idiotic to even suggest….

  83. Insomniac says: Apr 5, 2012 8:29 AM

    The full audio adds more context. There is some bleeping (to protect player names it seems), but Williams is handing out envelopes and then he starts to talk about injuring players.

  84. patfic15 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:29 AM

    Perhaps the director of the documentary needs to find a more peaceful and less physical genre….say the hijinks of kittens?

  85. kevinb73 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:29 AM

    Wow. I’m sure it happens on a lot of teams in the NFL, but coaches instructing their players to inflict injury is just sick. Williams should not be allowed to return to coaching. You win by dominating the other team on the field, not by taking them out of the game. Big difference.

    How do you appeal that? Just because “everyone else does it” is no excuse. Someone has to draw the line somewhere. Hats off to Goodell for once for standing up for the integrity of the game.

  86. geauxsaintsforever says: Apr 5, 2012 8:30 AM

    dldove77 says:
    Apr 5, 2012 7:39 AM
    What a total douche. And the Saints’ fans will continue to say they were too harshly punished? Give me a break.

    __________

    I haven’t seen many Saints fans on here saying GREGG WILLIAMS was too harshly punished. There’s a big difference here. This kind of behavior is clearly despicable. But with that being said, Sean Payton’s year-long suspension is still way too harsh. Maybe he should have had more institutional control, but he gave the defensive coordinator full autonomy (likely won’t be the case in the future). I’m not saying he shouldn’t be facing some kind of punishment, but a full season is still way over the top. And trust me, all these people saying otherwise would be telling a totally different story if this were their team. Cue the angry responses now…..

  87. Mike Holmgrem's Chins says: Apr 5, 2012 8:30 AM

    I guess it is one thing to urge your team to play hard fought physical football. It is another thing to do what this clown has been doing. He should not coach again pure, plain and simple. If I am STL. I would be looking elsewhere for a DC.

  88. miamininer says: Apr 5, 2012 8:30 AM

    If this doesn’t get him banned for life I don’t know what will talking about taking Crabtree’s ACL out and concussions and twisting Vernon Davis ankles in the pile dude is sick seriously

  89. musicman495 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:31 AM

    This speech was wrong, and Williams deserves to be disciplined. But the only thing that makes this more than locker room hyperbole are the results. I watched the game. So, uh, where were the hits? The only head shot I can recall was Donte Whitner knocking Pierre Thomas out of the game – which was followed, by the way, by Whitner being high-fived by his defensive teammates. Was there a camera recording the pre-game speeches in the 49ers locker room? Has the NFL investigated whether Whitner was told by his coaches to knock someone out of the game? No, I didn’t think so.

  90. flik44 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:33 AM

    I guess maybe that dumb bastard should have put a hat on Vernon. Stupid and bad. Not a good combo.

  91. grogantomorgan says: Apr 5, 2012 8:33 AM

    It’s now interesting to see how the NFLPA reconciles protecting the participating “pay for hit” players and the rest of the players in the NFL.

    And by that audio I’m sure every city/team where Mr.Williams coached will be under scrutiny …. sounds psychotic !!!

  92. fwippel says: Apr 5, 2012 8:33 AM

    Williams is not going to be allowed back into the NFL after this. Even after he knew the investigation was going on, right up to the end, he’s pulling this crap. That kind of arrogance will earn him a lifetime ban.

    Williams is finished as an NFL coach.

  93. soldiersaint77 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:37 AM

    I just figured it out, first I’m a Saints fan, I agree that Goodell had to hammer them because of the lawsuits, but i get it now why some on this board are so livid.

    You don’t know football, I literally heard worse than this from my Pee-Wee football coach. This and much worse goes on in “every” single NFL meeting room. Don’t believe me listen to the former players, not the reports who never played but the former pros, they are all saying this is football. You don’t have to like it, and I can understand that. But please understand everytime you pay for a ticket or buy a jersey, you are supporting it. Your team is doing this.

    Goodell is crapping his pants because the lid is about to get blown off of it, the list continues to grow, Saints, Lions, Skins, Bills and coming soon it your team.

  94. biggerballz says: Apr 5, 2012 8:37 AM

    goodell better not renstate this piece of trash next year. I find it funny how the scumbag rams don’t fire him with due cause. Tells you everything you need to know about the rams org.

  95. mwcarolina says: Apr 5, 2012 8:37 AM

    i hope Gregg Williams likes life outside of football because i think he’s going to be banned, it bites for the Rams who hired him without knowing that this guy would be suspended, but i think they will be fine on defense anyways

  96. indywilson40 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:38 AM

    I think Goodell killed the fake tough guys’ head.

  97. zaggs says: Apr 5, 2012 8:39 AM

    And this is why the NFL will tell the Louisiana senate to kiss its arse!

  98. 7ransponder says: Apr 5, 2012 8:39 AM

    mdd913 says:
    Apr 5, 2012 8:10 AM
    ….and the sheeple continue to gather. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

    ———————–

    The only “sheeple” here are the Aints fans who are blinded by loyalty to their team and having done so, lost all credibility as decent human beings.

  99. edenprairieballer says: Apr 5, 2012 8:41 AM

    Someone still owes Drew Brees an explanation.

  100. radbob1 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:42 AM

    Smack talk in the locker room. Happens everywhere.

    And if the filmmaker had such a problem with it why did he not come forward with it months ago and not when he would get most publicity.

  101. stanklepoot says: Apr 5, 2012 8:42 AM

    sj39 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:02 AM

    dd913 said it the best. That speech can be heard in EVERY NFL locker room. If you don’t understand that you are just a fan of a team in the same division/conference as the Aints or they beat your team up in a game etc; and you just want them punished. They should and are being punished but that little speech should have nothing to do with it.
    _____________________________
    Are you out of your damn mind!? Williams is on tape instructing players on who to try to injure and how…and saying he’s the first in line to pay whoever does it. You think that should have nothing to do with anything? Oh, and by the way, I’m really impressed with your “you’re out to get us” argument. You constructed it in such a way that it could easily apply to almost any football fan. I could understand trying to separate out fans of division rivals; but division rivals, teams in the same conference (half the league), and any team the Saints may have beaten at some time? How about next time you just say fans of teams that wear helmets? This isn’t about being poor sports, it’s about being disgusted by the worst case of poor sportsmanship I’ve ever heard of.

  102. contract says: Apr 5, 2012 8:45 AM

    Gregg Williams will never coach in the NFL again.

  103. cylondetector says: Apr 5, 2012 8:46 AM

    Gregg Williams is an utter douche.

    Playing hard is great – laying big hits is great – but targeting the head specifically and to tear ACL’s – well, thats outright disgusting.

    Saints fans want to pretend like everyone does this – well, they don’t because everygame would turn into a fistfight before halftime.

    Williams coaches with fear – he can’t outscheme the other team so he tries to hospitalise them.

    Real life Cobra Kai.

  104. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins says: Apr 5, 2012 8:46 AM

    Ban him for life.

  105. CKL says: Apr 5, 2012 8:47 AM

    Honestly a lot of that doesn’t bother me. It’s a game of emotion and guys need to be fired up sometimes. That said, there WERE a few parts that made me sick like when he urges the players to take out a guy’s ACL. That’s a huge DB move, which is NOT the same thing as his telling guys to test the injured spots on other guys who are playing hurt. The fact the latter is done is why I have always been violently opposed to injury reports and root for coaches to BS their way through those.

  106. kingfish4242 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:49 AM

    unfkwthabl says:
    Apr 5, 2012 7:42 AM
    I knew it was bad.. but damn

    Banned for life.

    Really surprised no one in the locker room spoke out against this.

    —————————————————

    This only got out because Williams had become arrogant and stupid. Before the Lions game he told a FOX reporter he was trying to find a way to drop Calvin Johnson on his head legally.

    I have spoken out a few times on this subject and not once did I ever defend Gregg Williams. I wanted him gone after the seattle loss. We won one ring with him here,but his wreckless schemes may have cost us two more. The final drive by San Fran is a perfect example. The first two plays,he called a soft zone. The Niners picked up 8 yards on dumpoffs to Frank Gore. More importantly,40 seconds were burned off the clock. Why in hades do you send an all out blitz on the next play and leave all pro Vernon Davis singled by a slow footed safety? Any Qb can make that throw. All you have to do is lead Davis in that scenario. On the FOX post game show Terry bradshaw was saying what the heck was Williams thinking. Once again, I’m glad he’s gone.

    One of the fans on the forum I frequent posted this about Williams and it sums up my feelings perfectly. If any Rams fan reads this,you’ll be glad he’s not coming either.

    When you blitz every down….

    At first teams are surprised…
    Then they assume you are going to mix it up some, as you keep blitzing…
    They they think “no way they keep blitzing at this point”, as you keep blitzing…
    Then they think “we are max protecting, no more blitzing”, as you keep blitzing…
    Then they think “lets throw it at their slow DB in man when they blitz again”, as you keep blitzing…

    Then its a minute to go in the playoffs and they think “wait, are we are candid camera? Is our TE in single coverage?”, as you keep ********* blitzing….

    Good riddance 3G…

    However, to think only Williams and the Saints are the only team doing this is being naive.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/giants-knew-kyle-williams-had-concussion-problems-targeted-183400986.html

    The Giants targeted Kyle Williams in the NFCCG due to his concussion history. Do we put a stain on their Lombardi? of course not.

    I don’t know how many of you have ever met and got to know Pro Football players on a personal basis. I live in an area of the country that’s produced several. Two played against my father when he played HS football. Trust me, they are not normal people. Those guys would tackle their mother if she was on the field and had the football. One went as far to tell me if it wasn’t for football, half of his team would be in prison.

    Isiah Thomas once said just because you are a great basketball player,it doesn’t make you a good person. Different sport,but his point is the same. Those players we root for on Sunday aren’t always the best role models for our children.

  107. prrbrr says: Apr 5, 2012 8:49 AM

    Kill the head….Sean Payton, life time ban as well

  108. 44mpo says: Apr 5, 2012 8:51 AM

    P.O.S. needs to be banned for life from the N.F.L.!

  109. jigga757 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:51 AM

    thats just bulls$%t!!! the players he talked about hurting was the same ones who ate them up along wit vernon davis

  110. maxl49 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:51 AM

    Sadly for him he forgot to mention Vernon [expletive] Davis !

  111. wicky888 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:06 AM

    Most of that speech can be heard in any NFL locker room on any time. There are a few differences though. Players deciding to hit other players where they are vulnerable is one thing. Coaches are held to a higher standard. I understand hit em hurt em blah blah, but offering money to target ACLs and chins and possibly end careers is wrong coming from a coach.

    The thing that did the Saints in was denying it, lying about it, and continuing to do it. If they had stopped the first time back in 2010, none of this would be happening. But they kept doing it, and lying to the NFL about it. As coaches and GMs, thats unacceptable. Players lie to the NFL all the time. “I dont do steroids” “I didnt know that was steroids” blah blah. The point is, coaches are held to a higher standard, which they continuosly failed to meet.

    Goodell is gonna use Williams own motto against him. As far as bounties go, hes gonna cut off the head (Williams) and the beast will die. Williams is donzo.

  112. ifyoucarewhatmynameisyoucansuckit says: Apr 5, 2012 10:08 AM

    So the players that were actively part of this bounty system are supposed to have lawyers present for their meetings?

    Mr Williams needs a good lawyer! He’s screwed! And deservedly so!

    Let me ask 1 question… Couldn’t Gore, Crabtree, little #32, and #10 file a civil suit against Williams and the Saints? Doesn’t this audio put him into a position that he is absolutely screwed in every legal aspect? Personally… I say GOOD riddance! He deserves everything he gets! What a D-Bag!!!!!!

  113. killerskrew says: Apr 5, 2012 10:18 AM

    With this information, I think the league should ban Williams for life. Or better yet, the Fed’s should charge the idiot with a felony charge. Get rid of this walking zombie of vomit.

  114. canadian52niner says: Apr 5, 2012 10:20 AM

    This guy is a waste of space and will never coach again in the league. There are many things you want to say in life, but you just don’t, unless you are a piece of garbage like Greg Williams.

    Ridiculous, good job Commish, way to protect the shield!!!

    BTW – The Donte Whitner hit that knocked out Pierre Thomas was a clean hit as per the rules which everyone should know … there is no helmet to helmet in regards to a ball carrier.

    Aldon and P Willis are going to remember this boys and hammer the Aints with all they have … within the rules!!!

  115. cowboycjn says: Apr 5, 2012 10:22 AM

    I am a Saints fan – and here he crossed the line. He and the rest deserve everything they have gotten as punishment. THIS is NOT how you drive players to play the professional game of football. The dude needs to get his head checked – no way should he ever be allowed back into a stadium much less get involved with coaching.

  116. gacoltfan says: Apr 5, 2012 10:23 AM

    Saints fans are making me laugh with your, “we think Williams should be punished, just not Payton”. That’s pretty big of you to agree with the suspension of a coach who is now coaching another team.

  117. pooflingingmonkey says: Apr 5, 2012 10:26 AM

    Funny… when I played football (in high school) I was taught to hit the opponent as hard as I possibly could, but never to try to injure them. I was taught to respect the players on the other team, and we’d even help them up after we knocked them down.

    What Williams is suggesting makes me ill.

  118. mikeflorioisadouche says: Apr 5, 2012 10:30 AM

    I’m a lifelong Saints fan and this makes me sick. Get rid of these bastards that are ruining this organization.

    I don’t blame the players. They have to do what the coaches tell them. They’re basically on a game-to-game contract. And yet there is still no hits in that game that carted anyone off, so you see how much good that speech did. But there is the one on Pierre Thomas that knocked him out of the game — you know, the one that the SF players and fans were celebrating?

    F..k all you Saints haters. People that blame the state of La. and the fans for this nonsense are just ignorant. Your anger is misplaced and your hate says more about your sick state of mind than anything else. You’re the reason why there will never be peace in the world.

    I don’t support Payton, Williams, Loomis, or Vitt. Fire’em all. But I’ll always root for my team.

    WHO DAT!!!!

  119. wayupsouth says: Apr 5, 2012 10:30 AM

    ifyoucarewhatmynameisyoucansuckit says:Apr 5, 2012 10:08 AM

    “So the players that were actively part of this bounty system are supposed to have lawyers present for their meetings?

    Mr Williams needs a good lawyer! He’s screwed! And deservedly so!

    Let me ask 1 question… Couldn’t Gore, Crabtree, little #32, and #10 file a civil suit against Williams and the Saints? Doesn’t this audio put him into a position that he is absolutely screwed in every legal aspect? Personally… I say GOOD riddance! He deserves everything he gets! What a D-Bag!!!!!!”

    First, as a Saints fan, I could not agree more with the D-bag comment. Williams’ tactics worked the first year. After that everybody had him figured out. They could NOT tackle the entire 2010 and 2011 seasons. But if these niner players sue, that’s gonna open up a Pandora’s box. Yeah, I’ll be the next Who Dat in line to proclaim that EVERYBODY has been doing this for years. Every player and team in the NFL can wind up suing each other over stuff like this. Where, after all, is the line between knock ‘em out legally and knock ‘em out illegally?

    I would be shocked if either Loomis or Payton got cut any slack. They’re getting clarification on the terms of their suspensions, they’ll serve ‘em, and we’ll all move on. Williams will likely spend the rest of his life wondering why he got singled out. He’ll never coach again at any level. No great loss if you ask me. What gets lost in all this, though, is the fact that the Saints cut this guy loose. He is NO LONGER WITH THE TEAM, and they sent him packing before this whole thing went public. The organization should get some credit for that, anyway.

  120. threedeep1998 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:36 AM

    They did a great job with Vernon Davis. Love the irony that Roman Harper gets hurt on last play

  121. nowillrepeat says: Apr 5, 2012 10:36 AM

    As a Saints fan who has torn his right acl twice, this makes me want to puke. I can no longer defend these guys and admit they crossed the line. Football is a violent game, but I wouldn’t wish my worst enemy the agony I had to go through in recovering from such a devasting injury. At the end of the day, its still a game.

    Gregg Williams better never show his face in this town again.

  122. nolarules says: Apr 5, 2012 10:38 AM

    Payton, Loomis, etc deserve to be suspended. No argument there. Severity of punishment? Certainly tough as a Saints fan but life will go on.

    Now on to the subject at hand…I know Florio has never been in the position as proven by his sad articles he writes expressing his outrage even though I doubt his little butt has ever been in the defensive huddle. But for the rest of you pillow biters, realize this is the same speech that goes on in every locker room. Not just the NFL. Throw in college football as well as many high schools. You people seem to think these men are choir boys on defense. They are not. This is the mind set of a defensive player. Just the way it is. What do you think the opposing team does with the injury report each week? If the NFL was so concerned about safety, then why force teams to release a report of where the defense should aim to get someone out of the game? And if you don’t think you favorite team doesn’t use the injury report for the exact same reason, I have some property in Nigeria that I would like to sell you.

    Don’t like the truth, stop watching the games. If you are going to watch, don’t act sanctimonious when the real way this game is played is put out there. This is the way it is.

  123. mikeinfected says: Apr 5, 2012 10:42 AM

    Dear Roger Goddell,

    Go for the d*ckhead.

    One thing to fire a team up to play tough, quite another to offer money to players to target their heads, ACLs et al. To deliberately try to cause concussions ? Wow.

    This guy is trash and deserves to be done.

    And to think this is AFTER all of the warnings they received…

  124. shawnc16 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:44 AM

    sj39 says:Apr 5, 2012 8:02 AM

    dd913 said it the best. That speech can be heard in EVERY NFL locker room. If you don’t understand that you are just a fan of a team in the same division/conference as the Aints or they beat your team up in a game etc; and you just want them punished. They should and are being punished but that little speech should have nothing to do with it.
    ________________________________

    Just curious, how many speeches have you heard just like this from other teams? And I’m not being sarcastic. Seriously I’ve heard speeches that are intense but never one telling players to target knees and ankles. Have you heard these or are you assuming?

  125. jerseytap says: Apr 5, 2012 10:51 AM

    TIme to fire Darren Sharper as well for lying to us

  126. alkaline1968 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:53 AM

    Williams should be subject to a weekend with Rosie O’Donnell..

  127. realfootballfan says: Apr 5, 2012 10:53 AM

    Poor bastard, do you think he’ll even be able to get a college job after this?

  128. cesquire says: Apr 5, 2012 10:55 AM

    He said “I got the first one” and rubbed his fingers together to indicate that he’d be paying the first bounty. I wonder who was going to pay the second and third bounties?

  129. egoettling says: Apr 5, 2012 10:59 AM

    Pete Rose treatment… This guy has to be done for life, and I would be surprised if Payton does not get his penalty increased. If he knew speeches like this were going down before games, he deserves more than just his one year.

  130. mikeinfected says: Apr 5, 2012 11:03 AM

    PS How’s about those defending Williams imagine how tough it’d be if one of these players with a previous ACL problem or a history of concussions lost their career in the NFL because they’d deliberately been targeted (using money as an extra incentive, even) ?

    Imagine if they couldn’t walk or make sense of the everyday every day of the rest of their lives because they’d had a hit taken out on them just so that a game could be won ? That they’d lost everything they’d strived for because Williams was a big cheat and scumbag, despite being warned numerous times to stop it.

    Imagine if he was talking about Drew Brees, how would you feel then ?

    If you don’t get that, imagine it was you personally. If you’d lost everything because the opposing DC was a terrible human being and had no place being in football. AT ANY level.

    Now, is it such a tough penalty ?

  131. briank1ne says: Apr 5, 2012 11:04 AM

    i watched the replay of this the other day and Alex smith got hit helmet to helmet early in the game. the refs didnt call it. cause he wasnt drew brees. can i get a picture of this guys face when alex smith throws the winning touchdown to vernon davis?

  132. peachyc39 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:09 AM

    As a long time 49er fan I have seen our defense system go from great..to not so great…then back to great like we were last year. I am not going to argue that I don’t think a defense can just be “that good” without a lot of “interesting meetings” but I will say that that does not mean that there is any extra money involved. I could be wrong about that however cause I am not in those locker rooms. I am not going to defend even my team when it comes to that issue. I think it is all over the NFL. I remember when I was a Jr High and High School cheerleader even overhearing locker room chants before games that were insane!!! But that is part of football. I think that Goodell is trying to make a point about this now because of the rules changing as far as how to hit players. I also believe that he is not stupid and has been aware that this has been going on to some degree always. Now is just about setting an “example”. However, Greg Williams has taken this to a completely different level and I for one am glad he probably will not be coaching in my division. I would hate to have to face him 2 times a year. As you can see especially if you are Saints fans, the organization has totally separated themselves from him with good reason and have not came to his defense at all. I love football and I love the hard hits and competiveness of it. That’s what attracted me to it when I was 8 years old but I do not want this game turned into some kind of circus which it is slowly becoming where psychos like Williams feel that absolutely anything goes at any cost.

  133. Nevis says: Apr 5, 2012 11:11 AM

    Jay says:
    Apr 5, 2012 7:40 AM
    Who paid Donte Whitner?

    ———————————

    Clean hit, 100%. Just showing the Saints who was the tougher team.

    And Gregg Williams? The same dick who blitzed the Niners over and over in the opening pre-season game got his ass beat by none other than Alex Smith who exploited this same blitzes when it was all said and done.

    Oh, the irony. Enjoy your ban in shame, you prick.

  134. brtdud7 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:18 AM

    Patrick Willis in the first game against the Rams when Williams comes back:

    “We need to decide whether Williams wants to be a fake-ass hitman, or he wants to be a tough guy. We need to figure it out. He becomes human when me and Justin Smith “miss” a tackle on the sideline and take out that outside ACL.”

  135. polynesiasaaga says: Apr 5, 2012 11:19 AM

    “A speech not unlike the one every defensive coordinator in the history of football has made before a big game.”

    ______________________________

    Words of a Saints fan. Your team gets caught and all of a sudden everyone else has bounties? That might be true, but the other 31 teams weren’t stupid enough to get caught.

  136. cognitivedrift says: Apr 5, 2012 11:23 AM

    rockthered1286 says:
    Apr 5, 2012 7:53 AM
    While I understand he’s saying whatever he can to fire his guys up, it shouldn’t take THIS much to do that. If you can’t motivate your players to do their job without addressing money and injuring the other team, that’s flat out weak. Want a prime example of the right way? Listen to a Ray Lewis pre-game speech. We hear every one at home games over loud speaker. He makes every man on that team proud to be a Raven and gets that fire burning to go out and give your heart and soul to this team and put it all on the line.

    I can’t wait to hear Aints fans justify this one.

     
    Wait, so you are using a murderer’s rage infused pre-game rants as your example of good sportsmanship? Hmmm.

  137. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:24 AM

    Funny how all the Niners fans can talk out of one side of their mouth about what scumbags the Saints were for talking about knocking out their players, then in the very next breath crow about one of their players knocking out a Saints player.

    Hypocrisy much?

    Get your heads out of your sanctimonious asses.

  138. ninernation49 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:30 AM

    Maybe Williams should of been letting Sproles know that Whitner was gonna knock the crap out of him! Get in his “head” GAME OVER!

  139. iinformeduthusly says: Apr 5, 2012 11:30 AM

    Ill never watch the NFL again if he if ever allowed back

  140. patriotinvasion says: Apr 5, 2012 11:36 AM

    If Bill Belichick made this speech the haters would want him hung by piano wire in front of NFL Headquarters. Spygate was just a guy taping hand signals in plain view to 70,000 people in the stadium. BountyGate is far, far more sinister…

  141. whatevnfl says: Apr 5, 2012 11:36 AM

    Drew Brees demands an explanation.

  142. alan3008 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:39 AM

    Williams should be banned for life. What he ordered is unforgivable. Pete Rose doesn’t hurt anyone physically, bets on baseball, and gets banned for life from MLB. Football, though is a different breed of cat. You can order your players to hurt other players, possibly ending their careers or shortening them if they suffer a concussion, and you get by with a slap on the wrist.

  143. govtminion says: Apr 5, 2012 11:39 AM

    Totally honest? A shiver goes up my spine reading stuff like that. This guy is an animal.

  144. olcap says: Apr 5, 2012 11:41 AM

    Williams should be in jail.

  145. bspurloc says: Apr 5, 2012 11:44 AM

    .
    “the head” is referencing the mind I mean anyone with half a brain could see that….

    but if the descriptions of the visuals is true then yeah bad stuff going on here

  146. starderup says: Apr 5, 2012 11:44 AM

    Fans of the game hate injuries more than anything else, and here this guy is demanding them.
    Bagheads should be glad I didn’t deal the punishment. I’d have banned Williams and Payton for life. LOTS of players would have sat out 2012. The trophy they ‘won’ would have been taken back, and the Stains would have forfeited the first four games of the season.
    They could then all go down to Bourbon Street and drown their sorrows.

  147. jnova80 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:47 AM

    I keep hearing Saints fans cry about the Whitner hit. How was that a dirty hit? Hard? Yes Dirty and illegal? No. And there’s a huge difference between calling a match ” a bodybag game” and a coach that has been accused by numerous players for having a bounty system and has a tape out of him yelling about how he wants players to get hurt and calling them out by name. (run on sentence I know) Yeah, this guy is done.

  148. weepingjebus says: Apr 5, 2012 12:23 PM

    I’ve been calling for a lifetime ban on him since this scandal first broke, but this tape is something even I find hard to believe.

    How did this guy even reach that position in the NFL if this is how he operated? How do other staff stand in that room and think “this is just a pep speech” when he is talking about shredding someone’s ACL for money? The NFL itself is in serious trouble over this and Goodell is clearly trying to still get in front of it. Every single place this guy ever worked is now radioactive.

  149. busyness says: Apr 5, 2012 12:26 PM

    Williams is no different than a common criminal.

  150. pedagoguish says: Apr 5, 2012 12:49 PM

    It has amazed me through all this that no one has been indicted. These are clearly criminal offenses. Just because they occur within the context of sport doesn’t make them socially acceptable. If I arrange to injure a competitor within the business community, I will spend a long stretch in prison. Contacting hits on people in any profession is an abominable transgression. These bums should be jailed.

    As to Williams, he should never be permitted to coach again at any level. Banishment from sport is the only permissible outcome for him, short of a stint in the pokey.

  151. ceskazbrojovka says: Apr 5, 2012 12:50 PM

    “Goodell is crapping his pants because the lid is about to get blown off of it, the list continues to grow, Saints, Lions, Skins, Bills and coming soon it your team.”

    hey our guys just get busted for smoking the green stuff…….while not exactly the smartest thing (at least not smoking it in a car/any place it can be seen) its nowhere near the level of taking someone’s ACL out and getting paid for it…..

  152. kodakinvegas says: Apr 5, 2012 12:51 PM

    And still the Saints fans deny, accuse, point fingers and blame everybody else. Seems all they’ve learned from Katrina was how to forever be the victim Sad

  153. aspen564 says: Apr 5, 2012 12:54 PM

    so much for ‘turn out the dogs’ being a welcome to the nfl for Harbaugh in the pre-season. The Saints are dirty from the top down – nice to see some justice.

  154. kimyan70 says: Apr 5, 2012 12:56 PM

    Time will pass and this will be forgotten and the Rams with welcome him back with open arms. We don’t care if people kill or try to kill, hurt or maim others, right Leonard Little?

  155. sweetsweetdrew says: Apr 5, 2012 1:25 PM

    coaches in high school encourage you to knock people out. HIGH SCHOOL. anyone that thinks this isn’t going on all over the league is kidding themselves. there isn’t a defensive player on any field in the league that doesn’t want to hurt the opposing team. its football not ballet.

  156. electstat says: Apr 5, 2012 1:27 PM

    I keep reading all of these comments about how this message can be heard in “every NFL locker room.” Funny, I’ve never heard this type of speech before in my life. Perhaps the idiots posting this are only reading the few quotes and not actually listening to the audio. Or, perhaps they are just armchair idiots.

  157. cesquire says: Apr 5, 2012 1:27 PM

    Something tells me you’d hear a much different speech from Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, or D Lebeau.

  158. erictheclown says: Apr 5, 2012 1:51 PM

    Adversity doesn’t build character, it reveals it.

    Taints and fans showing true colors!
    Priceless

  159. Nevis says: Apr 5, 2012 2:07 PM

    mdd913 says:
    Apr 5, 2012 11:24 AM
    Funny how all the Niners fans can talk out of one side of their mouth about what scumbags the Saints were for talking about knocking out their players, then in the very next breath crow about one of their players knocking out a Saints player.

    Hypocrisy much?

    Get your heads out of your sanctimonious asses.

    ——————-

    Here’s an idea — talk apples to apples.

    Niners hit on Pierre was legal and you’re not reading about Fangio (Niners DC) telling players to go after Brees’ knees, or headhunting Graham or Coltson.

    Maybe you should be the one taking your head out of your ass.

  160. Raider-in-PA says: Apr 5, 2012 2:11 PM

    Just heard the audio myself… Williams is a puzzy! I’d love to see Frankie Gore put HIS head ‘sideways’!!

    Dude looks like Billy Jean King, only a little more feminine… Wonder what powder-puff football team he played for back in the day?

  161. crazzeymikey says: Apr 5, 2012 2:19 PM

    If anyone every played football they would know that anything said in that locker room isn’t out of the ordinary, especially from a defensive coach. People need to calm down about this, because at the end of the day you cannot purposefully hurt someone on the field no matter how hard you try.

  162. lennydpocketqb says: Apr 5, 2012 2:55 PM

    Gregg Williams is hella screwed.

  163. roycewhittedsaintsfan says: Apr 5, 2012 3:41 PM

    being a Saints fan, I find this disturbing,
    and to be completely honest, I never really like Gregg Williams anyway

  164. micahernst says: Apr 5, 2012 5:23 PM

    This guy makes James Harrison look like a choir boy.

  165. forty9asty says: Apr 5, 2012 6:05 PM

    What’s sad is that this “tough guy” sends others out to do his dirty work. While I am not naive and do believe there is a lot of talk in NFL locker rooms about “knocking players out of games”, for this guy to be strongly encouraging his players to cause serious physical harm to their opponents and get paid for it is truly sickening.

    This idiot actually goes as far as to call out guys by name, describe the way he wants them injured (concussions, torn ACLs, twisted ankles) and then says he will pay for the first of what he hopes to be many injuries. Truly criminal.

    Lets not forget that this guy was already warned and investigated by the league for this very thing, and then he goes and lets himself be taped giving this type of speech. truly the definition of insane (doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results)

    I applaud you Saints fans for acknowledging that this act is truly heinous, but lets be real where it applies to the rest of the team and the organization. Teammates on both sides of the ball talk to each other, and there is no way that word of these type of speeches and “bounties” don’t get relayed to the offensive players or the other members of the coaching staff. Ignorance is not an excuse

  166. ispysomething7 says: Apr 5, 2012 8:04 PM

    Send this guy to the middle east. He’d have it cleaned up in a week!

  167. vtopa says: Apr 5, 2012 10:52 PM

    Well. Nothing to justify. I’m a Saints fan and this is disgusting. 90% of it is the usual BS but when he instructs players to aim for other players’ heads and ACLs is dead wrong.

    My problem is not with the fact that the Saints are getting punished, its with the kind of punishment. Its fairly obvious at this point that Williams was putting this stuff out when Payton and other offensive coaches were not around. Payton deserves punishment for not having more of a grip on this animal, but a year suspension hurts the competitiveness of the team and is bad for the NFL. The same goes with taking away draft picks. It hurts the competitiveness of the team into the future when other players and coaches will be in charge who had nothing to do with the bounties. The punishment for Payton should be reduced. The draft picks should be removed THIS year, not next. Vitt’s punishment is right. Gregg Williams should be banned for life.

    I’m a Saints fan and that is my take.. Thumbs down me all you like.

  168. murfdeezy says: Apr 6, 2012 12:57 AM

    I was almost willing to concede that Williams got caught doing what goes on a lot behind closed doors, until I heard that. The beginning sounds like your typical locker room tough talk and motivational speaking…but when he starts talking about head shots over and over, and then specifically talks about checking little number ten for his concussion status….and even goes to the point to specifically speak of targeting Crabtree’s ACL. You’re just a DICK Williams. I hope those guys put a bounty on you in your home town. What a D bag. I don’t know if the entire organization was involved in this, so I won’t speak to the entire scope of punishment that was doled out by Goodell…but this dirtbag should never be allowed to coach football anywhere ever again. Straight loser. That’s a lot of tough talk and shady strategy for someone who would never be taking the payback hit. Bum. Goodbye scumbag!!

  169. murfdeezy says: Apr 6, 2012 1:03 AM

    I think Goodell should just schedule a Harbaugh vs. Williams celebrity death match and sell tickets and pay per view viewing. That would be a fair settlement. I like Harbaugh’s odds against the aforementioned Billy Jean King. hahaha.

  170. slick3 says: Apr 6, 2012 2:26 AM

    nowillrepeat says: Apr 5, 2012 10:36 AM

    “As a Saints fan who has torn his right acl twice, this makes me want to puke. I can no longer defend these guys and admit they crossed the line. Football is a violent game, but I wouldn’t wish my worst enemy the agony I had to go through in recovering from such a devasting injury. At the end of the day, its still a game.

    Gregg Williams better never show his face in this town again.”
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    You’re a fan and you got hurt? Man, Greg Williams was worse than I thought.

  171. realitycheck21 says: Apr 7, 2012 4:16 AM

    BFD. I heard worse talk from my HS coaches back in the day. I know his superlatives are expressed in almost every HS college and pro team. Give me a break. People need to stop being a bunch of pussie$. Sack up and get over it already.

  172. scoobyusn says: Apr 12, 2012 2:24 PM

    Saints fans get your head out your a$$es. The line was crossed when $$$ were paid for play. And no, not every team does it. I am sure you were saying every team video tapes defensive signals and walkthroughs and defending the Patsies.

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