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NFL not commenting on whether it was aware of Williams audio

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One of the biggest questions arising from the audio generated by former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams before the Saints lost to the 49ers in the NFC playoffs is whether the NFL knew about the comments before meting out discipline in response to the bounty system.

The league isn’t saying, one way or the other.

“We are not commenting on specific pieces of evidence that we have,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told PFT by email, “other than what we have released in our statements.”

If the league didn’t know, then the league should reopen the investigation and, possibly, levy additional discipline.

Apart from specific instructions given by Williams on the body parts to target for injury, which instantly conjured images of the scenes from the original Longest Yard where the inmates are being told how to use brass knuckles and to dip their tape in plaster of Paris before putting it on their forearms, the unedited audio includes Williams handing out envelopes containing cash for big plays from the wild-card victory over the Lions, whom Williams calls “weak-ass, phony-ass mutherf–kers.”

And while no specific “knock-outs” or “cart-offs” occurred during the division-round game (other than the 49ers knocking out Saints running back Pierre Thomas), the audio helps cement the notion that the typically unspoken goal of getting the opponents’ best players off the field become express and overt under Williams, who continued to urge the infliction of injury even when he knew that the NFL once again was investigating the situation.

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  1. eaglesw00t says: Apr 5, 2012 9:47 AM

    Just uphold the suspensions and get on with it already.

    Send a letter to the Louisiana senate to mind their own business, and get on to player punishment.

    Enough of this already.

  2. bigwinintx says: Apr 5, 2012 9:48 AM

    Translation;
    They not only didn’t know about this, but now they’re pissed that further evidence will be used against them from past injured players looking for retribution/ paydays.

  3. GG Eden says: Apr 5, 2012 9:50 AM

    In regards to Greg Williams and the rabbit hole….

    What’s interesting to me is that Williams himself, whenever he went to interview for a DC job with a team, I am sure he would’ve promoted his bounty system as a general defensive philosophy of his. So, coaches/GMs would’ve all signed off on it when hiring him. Every team his DC’d for he’s run a bounty so every HC/GM has given it a thumbs up.

  4. btowngetsdown says: Apr 5, 2012 9:50 AM

    I like how he says, “that’s how you get respect in this league.” Yes, respect, that’s what Williams has now.

    Hearing the audio really makes me regret initially voting on PFT that Williams should get a 1 year suspension. After hearing that, I’ve realized there is just no place in football for a guy like that.

    He’s not even very good as a D Coordinator. The Saints were ranked 24th in Defense in 2011. No wonder he had to resort to this.

  5. truthfactory says: Apr 5, 2012 9:51 AM

    Certainly Williams had a reputation for being this dirty before he got to the Saints and Sean Payton obviosly liked what he had heard because he actually gave away some of his own money (I think it was $250,000) to bring in Williams, and the entire organization must have been on board.

    I’m sure there are other teams who have implemented a “bounty” system for big plays etc… but I doubt many took it this far and explicitly directed guys to take out opposing players ACL’s.

    Others may have been doing it, but it’s just like getting a speeding ticket, the Saints are the ones who got caught.

  6. omegalh says: Apr 5, 2012 9:53 AM

    “If the league didn’t know, then the league should reopen the investigation and, possibly, levy additional discipline.”

    Why? He went to NY and admitted everything already. Its like being convicted of murder and then they find a tape of you doing it. You don’t get extra time for that.

  7. pacificamjr says: Apr 5, 2012 9:55 AM

    somebody needs to cut off greg williams head

  8. sportsmeccabi says: Apr 5, 2012 9:56 AM

    Not commenting? I’ll take that as they didn’t hear about it.

  9. Manbearpig says: Apr 5, 2012 9:56 AM

    Just take away their Super Bowl rings now and get it over with.

    2009 Super Bowl Champions – New Orleans Saints*

  10. saints25 says: Apr 5, 2012 9:57 AM

    “During my time with the team, numerous sources told me that Williams used to go around bragging that he had a ‘[expletive] you’ clause in his contract – that he could basically do whatever he wanted in terms of running the defense, with complete autonomy,” Pamphilon said. “The message was clear: ‘I’m running [expletive]. If you don’t do it my way, you’ll be gone.’ ”

  11. bathroombenlovemachine says: Apr 5, 2012 9:58 AM

    If Gregg Williams gets sent to prison, T-Bone and Bubba will enjoy squeezing his plump man hooters.

  12. 6ringofsteel says: Apr 5, 2012 9:59 AM

    The New Orleans Saints are an American professional football franchise based in New Orleans, Louisiana. They are currently members of the Southern Division of the National Football Conference (NFC) of the National Football League (NFL). The team was founded by John W. Mecom, Jr. and David Dixon and the city of New Orleans. The Saints began play at Tulane Stadium in 1967. The name “Saints” is an allusion to November 1 being All Saints Day in the Catholic faith, New Orleans’ large Catholic population, and the spiritual When the Saints Go Marching In, which is strongly associated with New Orleans. The team’s primary colors are old gold and black; their logo is a simplified fleur-de-lis. They played their home games in Tulane Stadium through the 1974 NFL season. The following year, they moved to the new Louisiana Superdome (now the Mercedes-Benz Superdome, since Mercedes-Benz has purchased the stadium’s naming rights through the 2021 NFL season). [1]

    For most of their first 20 years, the Saints were barely competitive, only getting to .500 twice. In 1987, they finished 12-3 (their first-ever winning season) and made the playoffs for the first time in franchise history, but lost to the Minnesota Vikings 44-10. The Saints defeated the St. Louis Rams 31-28 in 2000 to notch their first-ever playoff win. In 2005, Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and, indeed, much of the Gulf Coast region. The Superdome was used as an emergency temporary shelter for displaced residents. The stadium suffered damage from the hurricane (notably from flooding and part of the roof being torn off as well as internal damage), and from lack of available facilities. The Saints were forced to play their first scheduled home game against the New York Giants at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey (the Giants’ home stadium); other home games were rescheduled at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas or Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. During the season, it was rumored that Saints owner Tom Benson might deem the Superdome unusable and seek to legally void his contract and relocate the team to San Antonio, where he has business interests. Ultimately, however, the Superdome was repaired and renovated in time in time for the 2006 season at an estimated cost of $185 million. The New Orleans Saints’ first post-Katrina home game was an emotionally-charged Monday Night Football game versus their division rival, the Atlanta Falcons. The Saints, under rookie head coach Sean Payton and new quarterback Drew Brees, defeated the Falcons 23-3, and would go on to notch the second playoff win in franchise history. The 2009 season was a historic one for the Saints. Winning a franchise-record 13 games, they qualified for Super Bowl XLIV and defeated the AFC champion Indianapolis Colts 31-17. To date, it is their only Super Bowl championship.

  13. jason1980 says: Apr 5, 2012 9:59 AM

    Of course the NFL was aware of the audio tape, who do you think leaked it on the day of Payton’s appeal hearing. Well, if that what we are calling this farce of a process.

  14. SeenThisB4 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:00 AM

    Again, no offer for money for inflicting injury was made on this tape. Soooo, where’s the quid pro quo? No money, no bounty.

    Instructing the players on where to inflict injury maybe unsportsmanlike, and yeah, worthy of a suspension for life, but it isn’t a bounty.

  15. norcalmafia says: Apr 5, 2012 10:01 AM

    Haha…The Saints were scared all game long after Whitner put the smash down on the frenchmen…On another note if you watch the “catch 3″ highlight you can see Alex Smith mouthing off to the Saints sidelines..I was wondering what he was saying cause hes the most humble dude normally but now it makes sense….I think the Saints realized they were facing a team that was alot toygher than them

  16. senorwinces says: Apr 5, 2012 10:01 AM

    Seems that you are back to trying to portray the Saints as evil incarnate, as an anomaly. I find it amazing that you ignore that Silver’s article references the fact that the Giants, last year’s Superbowl champs, have ADMITTED to targetting Kyle Williams’s history of concussions. Indeed, their doing so likely affected the outcome of the NFC Championship game. Also, Carlos Rogers has admitted that the 49ers were trying to knock Eli out of that game. When the Giants and 49ers coaches delivered their speeches to their players, do you think they were any less brutal sounding than what Gregg Williams said? People just don’t want to know how the sausage is made.

  17. cash804 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:03 AM

    Why does their pain bring me so much pleasure?!

  18. leatherhelmets says: Apr 5, 2012 10:03 AM

    Of course the nfl knew about it but after Katrina they did not want to ruin the story of the saints and what it would mean to the fans in the region. Does anything the NFL say at this point hold any value?

    Poll question. Who would you trust more? Bernie Madoff or the NFL?

  19. AlphaBean says: Apr 5, 2012 10:06 AM

    “In regards to Greg Williams and the rabbit hole….

    What’s interesting to me is that Williams himself, whenever he went to interview for a DC job with a team, I am sure he would’ve promoted his bounty system as a general defensive philosophy of his. So, coaches/GMs would’ve all signed off on it when hiring him. Every team his DC’d for he’s run a bounty so every HC/GM has given it a thumbs up.”

    The Redskins hired him and the Redskins are idiots.

    The Saints were desperate for a Superbowl so they sold their soul to the Devil. They knew what they were getting and they allowed it because it meant improving a piss-poor defense to championship quality. It worked. But much like the Favre fiasco in MN (wasted 20 million dollars and a talented team for a broken man), sometimes actions have consequences.

    Anyone else watching Magic City on Starz? It kind of highlights the concept of getting into bed with the mob. This is kinda like that.

  20. GG Eden says: Apr 5, 2012 10:16 AM

    AlphaBean…

    Also, as interesting to me is that Jeff Fisher, a long-time fixture of the Competition Committee RE-HIRED Williams this year. He knew as recently as this year of the Williams Bounty-System, not to mention the first time he worked with him at the Oilers/Titans. Fisher just as bad, if not worse, as Payton and the rest of the rabbit hole alumni, seeing as he probably extolled the virtues of player safety, pushing safety rules ahead, etc, whilst allowing an intent-to-injure bounty system.

  21. teedraper says: Apr 5, 2012 10:20 AM

    “If the league didn’t know, then the league should reopen the investigation and, possibly, levy additional discipline.”

    You are such a crab and clearly why America is so pussified.

    The NFL is nothing more than a glorified 7 on 7 passing league.

  22. AlphaBean says: Apr 5, 2012 10:24 AM

    “Of course the nfl knew about it but after Katrina they did not want to ruin the story of the saints and what it would mean to the fans in the region. Does anything the NFL say at this point hold any value?
    ====================

    Williams forced Goodell’s hand. Maybe the NFL did try to sweep this under the rug for the “good of the sport.” But Williams couldn’t take a hint, and kept on doing it. In management, you cannot sue your employer unless you know that wrongdoing was allowed by management and nothing was done.

    So maybe Goodell did what he was legally obligated to do until the story got out: demand an end to the bounty programs in the NFL — handle it “in-house.” But he also has a business interest in not derailing the NFL.

    However, it was Williams and the Saints organization as a whole’s hubris that forced Goodell into action. As the head of a company, you are forced to take action if you are at risk of becoming liable. Had the Saints not been penalized this harshly, then Goodell’s head would likely be on the block.

    Again. The Saints have nobody to blame but themselves for this whole fiasco.

  23. saintcasey says: Apr 5, 2012 10:27 AM

    Of course they did. Do you really think it’s coiencidence that it came out just as the Saints appeals are to be heard? It’s a PR campaign to justify the NFL putting the evil Saints in their place. GODell is ruining the NFL and making it a side show.

  24. steelersmichele says: Apr 5, 2012 10:28 AM

    for those of you saying other teams have bounties and the saints shouldn’t be punished, you’re missing the point. other teams may have players running the smaller bounties–not coaches, who are obligated to make sure rules are followed. they knowingly broke the rules and encouraged players to do the same.

    also, the saints were told to stop and they didn’t. I think that’s the main issue that gets under goodell’s skin: he hates being lied to. if the saints would have just stopped the practice a few years ago, they wouldn’t be facing the punishments they are now. but they lied to the league and kept going. now they face harsher penalties.

  25. expertop says: Apr 5, 2012 10:30 AM

    Sometimes I wonder about you, Mike Florio – because I understand you used to practice law.

    So, this audio comes out and based on that you think that if the league hasn’t heard it “[...] then the league should reopen the investigation and, possibly, levy additional discipline.”

    Why?

    Williams’ speech is damning, graphic and repugnant. It certainly is compelling evidence that he is culpable for exactly what the NFL has said he’s guilty of. The same conduct to which he’s confessed and been suspended for. So, why exactly should the NFL “reopen” the investigation? Williams (and Payton and Loomis) can be banned for life, for all I care. But the audio doesn’t add evidence of any new or different conduct than what already been dealt with. Calm down.

  26. AlphaBean says: Apr 5, 2012 10:30 AM

    “Also, as interesting to me is that Jeff Fisher, a long-time fixture of the Competition Committee RE-HIRED Williams this year. He knew as recently as this year of the Williams Bounty-System, not to mention the first time he worked with him at the Oilers/Titans. Fisher just as bad, if not worse, as Payton and the rest of the rabbit hole alumni, seeing as he probably extolled the virtues of player safety, pushing safety rules ahead, etc, whilst allowing an intent-to-injure bounty system.”
    ========================
    The Rams are a pretty desperate organization. “Deals with the devil” only happen with greed and desperation. I would imagine that’s part of it.

    However, I agree that it’s very questionable that Jeff Fisher, a “pillar” of the NFL community, would allow this. Do we know that Williams was Fisher’s choice? If so… I’d like to know how it happened. There just isn’t a lot of integrity left. It’s a win-driven league because wins=money, and that’s all owners care about. I saw the NFL films special on Tom Landry and how he did it “his way,” despite several losing seasons… but turned the Cowboys into a dynasty. Fisher doesn’t have that luxury; not even ’99 will afford him more than two to three years.

  27. thetooloftools says: Apr 5, 2012 10:30 AM

    Greg Williams should never coach again. NOBODY Loves hard hits more then I, but to want to cause injury is just way over the line.

  28. larryfinfan says: Apr 5, 2012 10:31 AM

    At this point, it doesn’t matter whether the league knew of this tape. In fact, I think it was brought out by the NFLPA wanting to expend all the blame on the staff for this and deflect any blame on the players who are certain to get extensive punishment for all this. In fact, the league is almost forced to be just as hard on the players as the FO and coaching staff now.

    The thing that we don’t have proof positive on yet is whether or to what extent money changed hands in regards to the ‘extra’ hits and purposefully attempting to injure other players. The thing is, if there was no money exchanging hands for this excessive use of intent to injure, it could be explained away as ‘part of the game’ as many poster want to do. But it’s obvious that money did exchange hands and that is what this is about.

    This tape doesn’t make it worse or better for Williams, whether or not the league had this tape. His bed is made. Now, it’s time for the players to receive their punishment… Be as tough as Williams wanted you to be in 09-11 and take your medicine and move on…don’t let that idiot Smith try to downplay your roles in this. While Williams may have set the system up, you executed that system..face the music and learn from it…

  29. kungfubillysims says: Apr 5, 2012 10:32 AM

    Would love to hear him call Suh a weak a$%, phony @# motherfu&%er to his face.
    What a total piece of garbage.
    Enjoy that indefinite suspension.

  30. jamaltimore says: Apr 5, 2012 10:33 AM

    You think the Ravens don’t want to take out Rothelsburger every time they play. You think the bucs don’t want to knock out brees, newton etc. when they play their rivals. The rhetoric and blatant support for it is not as clear as what williams does but the mentality exists in every lockeroom in the NFL. It’s this mentality that Goddell is trying to do away with.

    Not supporting the saints but reading the replies from most of so called football fans I’m surprised the call for outrage and criminal investigations.

  31. normnailz says: Apr 5, 2012 10:34 AM

    if every team in the NFL hands out cash rewards to players for injuring other players, then prove it!

    i can sit here all day and tell you that the Giants are paying their players to injure other players, but I am guessing you may what some sort of evidence of this happening. give me some proof of other teams doing this Saints fans. you’re just butthurt because your team is the one dumb enough to get caught with their pants down.

  32. hemiduke78 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:37 AM

    Is it me, or is that audio tape of “Kenny F*@%ing Powers”?

  33. AlanSaysYo says: Apr 5, 2012 10:40 AM

    Come on, now. Williams’ recorded comments are merely examples of the behavior that the NFL already found. How did you think he spoke about the bounty system in the locker room? “Pip pip, chaps, knock the block off for the Benjamins?” Would the bounty offenses be any less heinous if Williams hadn’t used such graphic language?

    This recording shows EXACTLY what the NFL punished Williams and everyone else for. Just because you hadn’t heard it before, and now you can hear it, doesn’t mean there should be additional punishment. I seem to be in the minority on this opinion, but it’s fair.

  34. nolarules says: Apr 5, 2012 10:40 AM

    Payton, Loomis, etc deserve to be suspended. No argument there. Severity of punishment? Certainly tough as a Saints fan but life will go on.

    Now on to the subject at hand…I know Florio has never been in the position as proven by his sad articles he writes expressing his outrage even though I doubt his little butt has ever been in the defensive huddle. But for the rest of you pillow biters, realize this is the same speech that goes on in every locker room. Not just the NFL. Throw in college football as well as many high schools. You people seem to think these men are choir boys on defense. They are not. This is the mind set of a defensive player. Just the way it is. What do you think the opposing team does with the injury report each week? If the NFL was so concerned about safety, then why force teams to release a report of where the defense should aim to get someone out of the game? And if you don’t think you favorite team doesn’t use the injury report for the exact same reason, I have some property in Nigeria that I would like to sell you.

    Don’t like the truth, stop watching the games. If you are going to watch, don’t act sanctimonious when the real way this game is played is put out there. This is the way it is.

  35. erod22 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:41 AM

    You don’t think Buddy, Rex, and Rob Ryan have given this same speech? Bill Parcells? Countless others?

    Gregg Williams will pay the ultimate price for the sins of many. It’s the ugly, but long-standing, side of football.

  36. heyguru1969 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:44 AM

    This really opens the door for pundits to ask, “What the League didn’t know, and when they didn’t know it.”

  37. nolarules says: Apr 5, 2012 10:45 AM

    cash804 says:
    Apr 5, 2012 10:03 AM
    Why does their pain bring me so much pleasure?!

    ———————————————–
    Most likely because your favorite teams blows (Redskins?) and the only way for your team to get better than the Saints is for them to melt down themselves. Unless you happen to be a 49er fan….damn those guys. Always have our number

  38. ftblfan9 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:46 AM

    Not a Saints Fan at all, but I had thought the punishments were too severe. After listening to that tape, I now understand them.

    Williams should be banned for life, but reality is that he is now effectively is banned for life anyhow. No owner in this day and age is going to hire him and have that audio played continuously. He done and he deserves it.

  39. iberiasaint says: Apr 5, 2012 10:47 AM

    If you think that this type of pregame speech does not go on in all locker rooms, then you dont no NFL football. There is nothing wrong with clean hard hits within the rules. These legal hits may well injury people (physics). If a hit is illegal, the refs should flag the player and the league has the ability to fine players. So if you must rag on the Saints, just remember that your team does the same.

  40. effedinLA says: Apr 5, 2012 10:50 AM

    Brees must be waiting on his contract to get as much guaranteed money as possible. You know, for being the head of the Saints, some other teams may think that if you kill the head the body will follow. He better have an injury clause prepared!
    I have a feeling there are 31 teams that need no additional incentive to put a little extra hit on those Saints next season.

  41. cesquire says: Apr 5, 2012 10:50 AM

    He said “I got the first one” and rubbed his fingers together to indicate that he’d be paying the first bounty. I wonder who was going to pay the second and third bounties?

  42. bduncanscott says: Apr 5, 2012 10:52 AM

    NFL FILMS and all film makers should be banned by teams from being allowed to shoot film or audio behind the scenes in the locker rooms, on the field or anywhere. As a fan I love seeing all that stuff but the video and audio is being used maliciously against teams and the NFL in general seems to be an evil dictator working against teams and players. So If I were an Owner or Coach I would say GOODBYE NFL films and goodbye anyone not on the team. I’d rather have Football back than this f’n pansy ass boo hoo nerf league the NFL is trying to create

  43. raiders757 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:53 AM

    “the league should reopen the investigation and, possibly, levy additional discipline.”

    Why, so you can take advantage of this over hyped topic even more? It’s time to put this crap to rest and move on.

  44. orbearider66 says: Apr 5, 2012 10:54 AM

    @omegalh … no, it’s like cutting a deal to admit to manslaughter and then the DA finds a tape that shows that you were involved in the premeditated planning.

    Here’s where it is the same though: you have to testify truthfully in both cases. If you don’t, your deal goes out the window. I don’t know what Williams told the NFL but, if they were not aware of this, then his indefinite suspension may become a lifetime ban.

    Whatever happens, I think this will ensure that there is no way that Williams is back in the NFL before 2014 or 2015.

  45. asublimeday says: Apr 5, 2012 10:58 AM

    Forced retirement. Goodnight.

  46. alkaline1968 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:01 AM

    I wonder if Parcells wants to be associated with this evil program now ?

  47. xtrout says: Apr 5, 2012 11:02 AM

    When the Niners knocked out Pierre Thomas, Saints fans were posting all sorts of smack talk about how it was a cheap shot. Now all I hear are crickets. Karma’s a beeetch.

  48. jwocky1 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:10 AM

    Time to vacate a ring? Sad for the people.

  49. GG Eden says: Apr 5, 2012 11:11 AM

    AlphaBean said…

    The Rams are a pretty desperate organization. “Deals with the devil” only happen with greed and desperation. I would imagine that’s part of it.

    However, I agree that it’s very questionable that Jeff Fisher, a “pillar” of the NFL community, would allow this. Do we know that Williams was Fisher’s choice? If so… I’d like to know how it happened. There just isn’t a lot of integrity left. It’s a win-driven league because wins=money, and that’s all owners care about. I saw the NFL films special on Tom Landry and how he did it “his way,” despite several losing seasons… but turned the Cowboys into a dynasty. Fisher doesn’t have that luxury; not even ’99 will afford him more than two to three years.

    ——-

    * Yep, ‘deals with the devil out of greed and desperation.

    * Re: do we know if Fisher hired Williams….he would’ve as HC’s most often hire their own staff, and Fisher especially, with decades of high-standing in the NFL would be one of those HCs who demands more control in football matters.

    * Integrity….the whole bounty issue is very complex. Not condonable the intent-to-injure bounties, nor that coaches/GMs ran it. Yet, Goodell surely being a hypocrite in covering up the rabbit hole, in releasing the audio, in many other aspects. Yet, at the same time Bernard Pollard is right criticizing the evolution towards Flag Football. It’s a complex topic.

    Just on the latter point….basketball or soccer type sports where there isn’t too much physical contact, no tackling anyway, it’s worse to imagine an intent-to-injure bounty. But in football, which is not only very contact driven but violent even, it draws a very wide gray line where intent-to-injure can not only be hidden but also becomes part of the fabric of the sport. Like he said, they wear pads and helmets because it’s violent and the traditional rules are about violent intent thus hence the pads/helmets. So, if Goodell keeps cracking down on player safety it runs the risk of the sport literally becoming like basketball/soccer where only a certain amount of contact is allowed, having to play “off” and giving up their position/blocks/yards based on a theoretical not physical sense.

  50. deacroman says: Apr 5, 2012 11:13 AM

    Why does this story still have legs? If Williams and Peyton were fined and suspended for a few games life would have gone on normally in the NFL. This stinks of Goodell’s overzealous nature to police the league to counter all of the lawsuits lodged by former players concerning latent medical problems. The Saints are scapegoats to save the league money.

  51. jason1980 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:23 AM

    You can bet your a$$ film crews and reporters with tape recorders are gonna be ban from all locker rooms during team meetings henceforth. On the bright side 22 of the 27 players on the defense are with other teams. Saints have picked five new defensive weapons. The Saints are good enough to take this hit from the NFL and not miss a beat.

  52. rushmatic says: Apr 5, 2012 11:28 AM

    teedraper says:

    “If the league didn’t know, then the league should reopen the investigation and, possibly, levy additional discipline.”

    You are such a crab and clearly why America is so pussified.

    The NFL is nothing more than a glorified 7 on 7 passing league.

    __________________

    Let’s put you in on offense as a receiver or halfback and see how long your fat ass lasts against one of these “pussified” defenses.

  53. jason1980 says: Apr 5, 2012 11:30 AM

    Three Gregg Williams stories saying essentially the same thing, talk about overkill.

  54. laeaglefan says: Apr 5, 2012 11:32 AM

    Goodell won’t back off of any of these suspensions, because if he does, he’ll look weak. In light of things that are just being made public now, like Williams’ audio, Goodell might even increase the punishments, if anything.

  55. radrntn says: Apr 5, 2012 11:36 AM

    wow, somebody recorded it…this is like watergate….whoever deep throat is, I am sure the team will see how deep his throat goes….hmmmm i wonder what they will stick down it…dirty rat.

  56. shzastl says: Apr 5, 2012 12:38 PM

    Of course NFL was aware — this guy was the whistleblower.

  57. rosieoutlook says: Apr 5, 2012 1:00 PM

    Florio, you’re a sissy. It’s the best word to describe you.

  58. somekat says: Apr 5, 2012 1:05 PM

    Can idiots please stop comparing this to a criminal trial? The “if you killed someone pleaded guilty, if they found more evidence they wouldn’t blah blah blah”
    The NFL is not a criminal court, and they have no requirement to pretend they are. If they were, Payton, Williams, Vilma and a list of others would be going to jail, Not getting suspended. That is also why we don’t get to see the evidence. It’s not court, and it’s not public domain. Part of signing an NFL contract is submitting to their discipline, you can’t cry about it when you don’t like it.

    If you feel you are being treated that unfaily, sue the league. Bring all the evidence in to the PUBLIC arena, and we’ll see how it goes from there. The CRIMES the committed, carry a minumum 7 year sentence. Lets see how that works out for them.

  59. robert831 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:29 PM

    Saints all got off easy for lying cheaters with a tainted championship… They should have lost at least 3 first round picks & possibly 3 years of franchise tags, one for each year we have confirmation they intentionally cheated & lied. Williams should be banned for life.

  60. erictheclown says: Apr 5, 2012 1:44 PM

    Adversity doesn’t build character, it reveals it.

    Taints and fans showing true colors!
    Priceless

  61. sloppydogg says: Apr 5, 2012 3:07 PM

    Let Sean and Micky go free, Williams took the matter into his own hand. That would be my argument to lift the appeals.

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