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Sean Pamphilon calls Gregg Williams an arrogant coward

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Sean Pamphilon, the documentary filmmaker who released an audio recording of former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams extolling his players to injure players on the 49ers, has also released a rambling, 6,000-word statement on the time he spent following the Saints to chronicle the life of Steve Gleason, a former Saint who is dying of Lou Gehrig’s Disease. And although Pamphilon expresses gratitude and respect for many in the Saints organization, he expresses contempt for Williams.

Among Pamphilon’s observations are that Williams, in the opinion of Pamphilon, isn’t the only coach who has encouraged players to hurt opponents, but he maybe the only one who wouldn’t stop even after he had been warned that he had to.

“Essentially, Gregg Williams is not entirely unique,” Pamphilon writes. “He’s just the one who was arrogant enough to continue when he was told to stop and eventually, he got popped for it.”

In a lengthy passage, Pamphilon also recounts what he heard Williams tell his players about playing the game his way:

“’We make no apologies for the way we play the game,’ Williams said in a tone which suggested that he actually had the balls to put on a uniform and do the very things he was ordering his players to do, much less be on the receiving end of the blows he was ordering up.

“I don’t have those balls.

“You don’t have those balls.

“And Gregg Williams most definitely does not have those balls.

“It’s a cowards play to send someone off to do your malicious bidding. I’m sure many of his players would have told him this if they weren’t scared to lose their jobs or look like bitches in front of their teammates. Or if they weren’t 25 and couldn’t possibly have a fully developed perspective on life.”

Pamphilon seems to acknowledge that he didn’t have permission to release Williams’ speech publicly, noting that in doing so he “compromised my personal relationships and risked damaging Steve Gleason’s relationship with the Saints.” But in Pamphilon’s opinion, it was worth it to expose the truth of exactly what kind of coach Williams is. And Pamphilon thinks Williams is an arrogant coward.

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  1. crazybeardedjack says: Apr 5, 2012 12:57 PM

    Sounds about right. Bye Bye Greggy

  2. joetoronto says: Apr 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    Now the name calling starts, wow.

  3. benh999 says: Apr 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    I have balls.

  4. trbowman says: Apr 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    I’d love to see Gregg Williams take some of the hits he’s had his boys do on other players. See how tough this guy is when he’s the one out there.

  5. buhbay1c says: Apr 5, 2012 12:58 PM

    Ok Sean, thanks for releasing audio, but your 15 minutes of fame are over. Save that 6000 word rant for the PFT comment boards like a normal person.

  6. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:00 PM

    Once again, if this guy truly cared about exposing Williams’ practices he would’ve released the tape months ago instead of waiting until there was a dollar to be made.

    A dollar to be made by exploiting a dying man.

    Call Gregg Williams all the dirty names you want but this Pamphilion guy is far, far worse.

  7. razic3k says: Apr 5, 2012 1:00 PM

    good job. expose them so that they can shut up. that louisiana legislature can shut up. the appeals can stop. and the punishment can go forward.

    i love the nfl and i love the game of football, but i think it’s disgusting that players can participate and scheme to hurt their brethren.

    that’s a disgusting lack of morals, ethics, and is not representative of anything we should want our kids to look up to.

  8. alaricsrevenge says: Apr 5, 2012 1:01 PM

    To which Gregg Williams replied “Yeah, well yo Momma so fat her blood type’s Prego!’

  9. mondosalvo says: Apr 5, 2012 1:01 PM

    BRAVO Sean Pamphilon. You may never get any professional sports work again after this, but releasing documented evidence of Gregg Williams at his most sociopathic is worth it.

  10. Manbearpig says: Apr 5, 2012 1:02 PM

    Hahaha see ya Williams. Saints fans how’s that Super Bowl title* treating ya? Still enjoying it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  11. rc33 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:02 PM

    6000 words?
    From some jamoke whose NFL observations mean absolutely nothing?
    And he’s calling ANYONE else arrogant?

  12. theservice10 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:02 PM

    Im sure Gregg Williams was the first coach to ever encourage players to play tough just as Sean Pamphilon is the first to ride a news storys coat tails so he could get free press.

  13. flapjackdaddy says: Apr 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    And Sean Payton should get a lifetime ban for allowing that to do on for three seasons.

  14. eaglesnoles05 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    Ya Can’t do that, ya seeeeeeeeeeeeeee?!!?

  15. jimw81 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    Sean Pamphilon the whistleblower?

  16. skoobyfl says: Apr 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    Now I know why the Bills got rid of this guy, he’s looney bins.

  17. randomjim says: Apr 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    Let the blame shifting and excuses begin ……

  18. chrismatthewsucks says: Apr 5, 2012 1:03 PM

    Gregg order a bounty on his ass.

  19. skin94249 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:04 PM

    Strong words from behind a keyboard. Did he have the “Lions Heart” to tell this to Williams or is he the same kind of coward ?

  20. nineroutsider says: Apr 5, 2012 1:04 PM

    Sean is the man!

  21. randomjim says: Apr 5, 2012 1:05 PM

    How to spot an effing moron -

    mdd913 says:
    Apr 5, 2012 1:00 PM
    Once again, if this guy truly cared about exposing Williams’ practices he would’ve released the tape months ago instead of waiting until there was a dollar to be made.

    A dollar to be made by exploiting a dying man.

    Call Gregg Williams all the dirty names you want but this Pamphilion guy is far, far worse.

  22. shackdelrio says: Apr 5, 2012 1:05 PM

    So many other things in the world that we should care about.

  23. kathyisintheroom says: Apr 5, 2012 1:06 PM

    Pamphilon thinks WILLIAMS is the coward???

    Something tells me he will not be going anywhere that he may even have a remote chance of running into an NFL player.

    And that sissy thinks WILLIAMS is the coward??

    Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame that you are gaining at the expense of a dying man, you pathetic excuse for a man cause you are the COWARD!!!!!!

  24. sj39 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:08 PM

    Not defending Williams but if you don’t know how stupid it is to say something like “he’s never put on a uniform bla bla bla” then you are stupid. A lot of coaches, in a lot of sports never played it themselves.

  25. cali49er707 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:08 PM

    sounds like if williams is interested in a last ditch money grab now that his NFL career is over, he might want to consider a one on one challenge on the 50yd line @ halftime of this years superbowl WILLIAMS vs PAMPHILON in the octagon!!! if i could give any advice to pamphilon it would be “HIT THE BODY & THE HEAD WILL FALL” i learned that from the great greg williams himself on his final legendary speech!!!

  26. sdisme says: Apr 5, 2012 1:08 PM

    Pamphilon releasing video from a private meeting. Wow, better find a good lawyer.

    Regardless how wrong GW is here, Pamphilion is screwed.

  27. thatguywhoisactuallyamiamisportsfan says: Apr 5, 2012 1:11 PM

    Thank you for the footage, but now you can shut up.

  28. spartyfi says: Apr 5, 2012 1:11 PM

    shackdelrio….forget the world, this Country. Time we take the focus off caring for the whole world and start worrying about our won backyard. Your heart’s in the right place but just prioritized wrong IMO.

  29. adjm928 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:11 PM

    I think Goodell should order every Saints member who was involved in this to get 20 Rick Flair slaps to the chest.

  30. RavenzGunnerz says: Apr 5, 2012 1:14 PM

    Good job Goodell, you’ve turned NFL into a soap opera.

    this is now the headline at Huffingtonpost.com

    Huffingtonpost man.

  31. cags777 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:14 PM

    Thank you, Mr. Pamphilon, for doing the right thing by releasing this. Cowards like Gregg Williams and others need to be exposed and held accountable for their actions.

    And for many of you to disparage this man (who is the only real man in this issue), I wonder what you would have said had someone from Steve Gleason’s family would have released this to the press? Would you label them “snitches” and attempt to shoot the messenger too?

  32. delmonte55 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:15 PM

    The Media strikes again……

  33. somekat says: Apr 5, 2012 1:15 PM

    “I’m sure Gregg Williams was the first coach ever to tell his team to play tough……”

    That is the problem with this whole story. He did not have them play tough, he had them play DIRTY. There is a huge difference. Morons like you just cant’ seem to get that through your 18 IQ holding skulls

  34. whoisthatteam says: Apr 5, 2012 1:15 PM

    what about this?

    yahoosports article
    “Giants knew Kyle Williams had concussion problems and targeted his head”

    “The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him outta the game,” said Jacquian Williams, who forced the second fumble, in overtime, to set up New York’s game-winning field goal.
    “He’s had a lot of concussions,” said Devin Thomas, who recovered both fumbles. “We were just like, ‘We gotta put a hit on that guy.’” Later in the same interview, he told the Newark Star-Ledger that teammate and backup safety Tyler Sash “did a great job hitting him early and he looked kind of dazed when he got up. I feel like that made a difference and he coughed it up.”

    Ohhh the humanity!!

  35. randomjim says: Apr 5, 2012 1:17 PM

    shackdelrio says:
    Apr 5, 2012 1:05 PM
    So many other things in the world that we should care about.

    ———————————————————–
    I like many other people do put this in perspective. Just because this is being focused on doesn’t mean it’s the ONLY thing people care about. (Except maybe the Louisiana politicians )

  36. mrmarcus55 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:17 PM

    Saints should be stripped of superbowl title.

  37. tombradysponytail says: Apr 5, 2012 1:18 PM

    Gregg Williams responded, so what, you don’t have hooters.

  38. skin94249 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:19 PM

    Now we know the true snitch, Sapp your creditbility is worthless. You owe Shockey an apoligy. And now !!!!

  39. thehighhat says: Apr 5, 2012 1:19 PM

    The whole Sean Payton/Gregg Williams era is tainted, including their Super Bowl win*.

    Even in victory the Saints are an embarrassment. Guess nothing changes. Time to dust off the old ‘Aints head bags!

  40. pigskin28 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:19 PM

    Two years ago when there was all the talk about concussions during the Season andgys were getting fined , I made the comment regarding defenders who, after a runner had been tackled laying on the ground with his head exposed, ALWAYs seemed to come in and kick the guy in his head. It’s done in a way that it seems the guy is just trying to stop and stumbles when his leg catches the guy in the head.
    That needs to be targeted by the league.

    Williams was clearly alluding to that type of play when encouraging going after the head.

    Am telling you i was hit in the head real hard as a young man, and now? Any hit to my head causes a headache and dizziness. If I just roll my head to violently I become dsiorriented. The Nfl needs to look out for this.

  41. braven4evr says: Apr 5, 2012 1:20 PM

    I wonder if he has the balls to call williams a coward to his face…maybe they will agree to a steel cage match

  42. waitingguilty says: Apr 5, 2012 1:22 PM

    Pamphilon pretty much nails it in his statement except he forgot to mention that gg also looks like mrs. Doubtfire.

  43. nomad57 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:22 PM

    MDS- you’re a professional, are you happy with this wording?

    “… Steve Gleason, a former Saint who is dying of Lou Gehrig’s Disease”

    Why would you say he is dying? There are many words that would have been more appropriate.

    No White Flags

  44. whoisthatteam says: Apr 5, 2012 1:22 PM

    I’m sure no giants players were paid for those big hits and no coaches directed those big hits, right? Riiiiiiiiight.

  45. cesquire says: Apr 5, 2012 1:22 PM

    Something tells me you’d hear a much different speech from Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, or D Lebeau.

  46. gotampabay52 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:22 PM

    Director of the year film of the year editor of the year box office hit f the saints short film of the year too

  47. gallogj says: Apr 5, 2012 1:22 PM

    I guess it’s not cowardly to kick a man when he’s down? It’ s probably also not cowardly to keep mum about this until it is conveniently out in the open. Glass house.

  48. robert831 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:23 PM

    Saints all got off easy for lying cheaters with a tainted championship… They should have lost at least 3 first round picks & possibly 3 years of franchise tags, one for each year we have confirmation they intentionally cheated & lied. Williams should be banned for life.

  49. joetoronto says: Apr 5, 2012 1:23 PM

    shackdelrio says:
    Apr 5, 2012 1:05 PM
    So many other things in the world that we should care about.
    ***************************************************
    Like what, lifting the tarps in Jacksonville?

  50. cowboyhater says: Apr 5, 2012 1:24 PM

    For those who have not played the game, or understand the brutality, and violence that comes with this sport needs to zip it. I don’t condone what Gregg did, but at the same time I do understand his coaching style, and the techniques he used to motivate his defensive players. Some of the sound bites are (if you take them literally) unsportsmanlike, but a lot of what I hear brings back memories of how my coaches talked in a locker room. Unfortunately, Greg comes from the “old school” cloth, and had trouble conforming to this new way of keeping the game safer. I agree with the penalties given because he was warned, but I also understand (from experience) where Gregg Williams is coming from in that locker room.

  51. ezmoover says: Apr 5, 2012 1:24 PM

    THUMBS UP if you think all level headed non-Saints fans agree with Pamphilon’s decision to let the public hear the truth.

    THUMBS DOWN if you think it’s only Saints fans that are crying and bitching about it.

  52. j0esixpack says: Apr 5, 2012 1:25 PM

    Never say or write anything you don’t want to see on the front page.

    If Willams is upset with this coming out then maybe he might realize he never should have said it in the first place.

  53. Neftali Ramos says: Apr 5, 2012 1:26 PM

    I don’t see how any fan, even Saints fans, can criticize Goodells handling of this situation or defend the Saints organization. This were bad before but this audio is the smoking gun that should make everyone really think about what was happening. Gregg Williams was encouraging behavior that could have ended people’s careers and possibly led to long term health consequences for the injured players. If the players are a fraternity I would never be able to live with myself for injuring a friend of mine for a measly $1000 that I could make in 10 min anyway.

  54. coreyn23 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:26 PM

    Or if they weren’t 25 and couldn’t possibly have a fully developed perspective on life.”

    What about guys like Darren Sharper who is way past 25. I would be willing to bet he was all for this. Age is not the issue here, it is the culture that was developed, but the players ultimately made their own choice.

  55. smcgaels1997 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:27 PM

    Absolutely hilarious…somehow Sean is the bad guy?! The Saints and their fans were better whey where the Aints.

  56. wesrj21 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:29 PM

    This is football right? What’s the big deal?

  57. teamgleason32 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:29 PM

    Steve is “living with Lou Gehrig’s Disease”

  58. fballguy says: Apr 5, 2012 1:30 PM

    This Pamphilon guy is 10 times the d-bag Williams is and 100 times the idiot. So much to attack in what he’s done…Betraying the trust of Gleason and the Saints…Coddling the poor 25 year old millionaires who were under William’s influence? (25 YEARS OLD!!!…the wussification of America is alive and well in that statement…at what age do we begin to hold our oh so tender children accountable in this country? 40?)…Attacking Williams for uttering something that ever defensive coach in the history of history has uttered numerous times. This guy is obviously half Sham Wow salesman and half sweater vest. He probably uses words like potty mouth. Is that 6,000 words yet?

  59. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:33 PM

    I wonder what you would have said had someone from Steve Gleason’s family would have released this to the press? Would you label them “snitches” and attempt to shoot the messenger too?

    —————————————————————-

    Don’t pretend to know anything about the situation. I’ve met Steve Gleason. He is a noble and honorable person and would never stoop to taking advantage of such a situation for the sake of his own wallet.

    You are so full of bile you can’t even see this guy for the dirtbag he is, but yeah, that’s fine. Go on pretending he’s some kind of hero who’s not just out to make a dollar by dragging a dying man and his family through the mud.

  60. erictheclown says: Apr 5, 2012 1:35 PM

    Adversity doesn’t build character, it reveals it.

    Taints and fans showing true colors!
    Priceless

  61. timsmooth says: Apr 5, 2012 1:37 PM

    How much did they pay Him for that?! He’s the coward!

  62. randomjim says: Apr 5, 2012 1:37 PM

    sdisme says:
    Apr 5, 2012 1:08 PM
    Pamphilon releasing video from a private meeting. Wow, better find a good lawyer.

    Regardless how wrong GW is here, Pamphilion is screwed.
    ———————————————————— As someone else pointed out on another story, he witnessed someone directing an assault on someone else. He is reporting a crime to the head authority. (The commissioner). He’ll legally be fine.

  63. fballguy says: Apr 5, 2012 1:37 PM

    And to Michael David Smith…How about being a little more tactful in your writing. Next time replace “dying” with “battling” or “afflicted” or even “stricken”.

    The man is still alive and can read. How would you like to read that?

  64. ProDolphinsTalk says: Apr 5, 2012 1:37 PM

    You are allowed to hit hard in the NFL and you better be ready to take those hits. Guys will test you to make sure you are 100%. That’s football. How many people are going to paste the Giants comments? It’s not the same thing. Did the Giants have a bounty system for years and disregard warnings from the NFL to shut it down. Did they blab about it with a documentary filmmaker in the room while the ink was still trying on the warning letter? No. The Saints violated the upmost standard of sportsmanship and are deservedly being punished. This has to be the worst story to come out of the NFL in a long, long time. Here’s hoping G. Williams gets a ‘cart ride’ of his own and never sees another sideline. God forbid he gets a job at the amateur level.

  65. purpwalk says: Apr 5, 2012 1:41 PM

    williams was very, very wrong, but watch now, Pamphilon will write a book about this, his last chance to make bank

  66. bigfootballfan says: Apr 5, 2012 1:43 PM

    This is just getting uglier and uglier.

    I’m not one who believes this only happened in the New Orleans locker room. I wonder how league wide this is.

    It’d be nice to see the players come out and put an end to this.

    There is an “honor among theives” attitude – where if you say something about it you are breaking the code.

    The code needs to be broken, and the players need to man up.

    Esp. tiring are ex-players within the media that try to soften this… “we hit players hard – so what if it’s enchanced with a little competitive incentive.”

    There is a distinction between hitting hard and hitting to injure.

    It’s disgusting.

    It’s beyond that – it’s criminal.

    As “stars” in the most popular sport, how refreshing it would be to see excellent sportsmanship modeled and rewarded, and the cheap shot artists, the dirty players, the career enders all called out and punished.

  67. jennstergersburnedretinas says: Apr 5, 2012 1:47 PM

    What the hell is going on with these Saints fans? You keep shifting blame to someone other than the people involved.

    I.E.

    Roger Goodell
    Sean Pamphilion
    Bill Belechick
    The G.D. Easter Bunny

    Stop defending these dirtbags, as there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that they were engaged in illegal actions.

  68. pocketsstraight says: Apr 5, 2012 1:47 PM

    @mdd913 unless the NFL knows of the tape… who know Pamphilon could have been the “snitch”.

    Maybe Pamphilon was not happy with how the NFL was proceeding so he released it anyway

  69. edavidberg says: Apr 5, 2012 1:50 PM

    It’s kind of ironic after than rant it was the Niners that knocked out Pierre Thomas on the goal line with a helmet to helmet hit.

    Gregg Williams is more likely going to be selling insurance than coaching football ever again.

  70. AlphaBean says: Apr 5, 2012 1:50 PM

    “coreyn23 says:Apr 5, 2012 1:26 PM

    Or if they weren’t 25 and couldn’t possibly have a fully developed perspective on life.”

    What about guys like Darren Sharper who is way past 25. I would be willing to bet he was all for this. Age is not the issue here, it is the culture that was developed, but the players ultimately made their own choice.”

    It was one of the possible explanations. Sharper couldn’t tackle so he has likely never collected a bounty in his life. However, he definitely benefitted greatly from woozy and hurt quarterbacks being afraid of being hit late again and missing their target.

    I’m aware that bounties happened for big non-contact plays as well, btw. I’m just saying Sharper was a molasses-slow Deion/Cromartie.

  71. gunnyd says: Apr 5, 2012 1:51 PM

    “Go out and win one for the Gipper”; Knute Rockne

    “Grab, grab, grab, nobody’s tackling, everybody’s grabbing”; Vince Lombardi

    “Go out there and cripple somebody in the name of winning”; Greg Williams!

    This guy should be banned for life…same as gamblers are banned for life in baseball.

  72. trollhammer20 says: Apr 5, 2012 1:54 PM

    “’We make no apologies for the way we play the game,’ Williams said…

    …and yet, the first words to come from him once confronted with the body of evidence against him was “I want to apologize to….”

    Going after Pamphlion is shooting the messenger at this point. The cat is out of the bag, and the Superdome shall be its litterbox.

  73. yournuts says: Apr 5, 2012 1:59 PM

    I think that all teams do basically the same thing. The NFL is all about seperating someone from the football and making the big hits. Don’t we all see the big hits on sports center? I am a Giant’s fan but to me Sean Pamphilon is nothing more than a snitch and cancer and should never get another job in his life in sports. What gives the media, or in this case Sean Pamphion the right to record something that was not his focus and his right to do? Money! Fame? What about respect for the game and how it’s been plays for 60 years? Maybe we should have the NFL play flag football if we think that this kind of stuff doesn’t happen everywhere.

  74. marcinhouston says: Apr 5, 2012 1:59 PM

    What if Pamphilon and Williams are basically similar, both are willing to go to any length to get ahead in their promotion. Williams likes to talk about injuring opponents. Pamphilon likes to betray the trust of a dying man with ALS to add his name to a story where punishment is already out.

  75. cannonballdookie says: Apr 5, 2012 1:59 PM

    I don’t approve of Gregg Williams’ style but the funny thing is he’d probably be one of the calmest coaches if he was coaching 30 years ago.

  76. mac3333 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:02 PM

    We should celebrate this “whistle blowing”. Too often we turn a blind eye in our society because we want to reap the financial windfalls awaiting those who keep their mouth shut.

    Bravo Mr Pamphilon! It takes true courage to do the right thing nowadays.

  77. ubummer says: Apr 5, 2012 2:04 PM

    No question Williams crossed the line, but how does Pamphilon think he has the moral high ground? Pamphilon thinks Williams was some sort of degenerate scumbag and was so disgusted that he had to wait until somebody else outed Williams before he had the guts to say anything.

    If Pamphilon is such a stand up guy, he should have said stepped forward on his own. Instead he’s showed that he’s actually just a gutless coward, only willing to pile on after finds out which way the wind is blowing.

  78. rc33 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:05 PM

    Morons like you just cant’ seem to get that through your 18 IQ holding skulls
    —————————————

    Leave Morris Claiborne out of this

  79. sd4life says: Apr 5, 2012 2:05 PM

    Deserves what’s coming to him ! Giggity!

  80. lombardihero says: Apr 5, 2012 2:06 PM

    Pamphilon releasing video from a private meeting. Wow, better find a good lawyer.

    Regardless how wrong GW is here, Pamphilion is screwed.

    LOL………….. Williams does not own the Locker Room and good luck getting the Owner to file a lawsuit… The same guy that told them all to knock it off.

    Also why would he be screwed? He might even get a job offer with NFL Films for shedding some light on the whole situation…

  81. gallogj says: Apr 5, 2012 2:08 PM

    The janitor didn’t say anything until Sandusky was exposed either…suddenly now Pamphilon is on top of a mountain with his trumpet. But that’s not cowardice?

  82. cliffordc05 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:10 PM

    If Pamphilon was interested in nothing more than doing the right thing he should have provided the tape to the NFL with an agreement that it would remain confidential. He should not be part of this story and his opinions have no value. Who the hell is he to call Greg Williams arrogant? I am not defending Williams conduct and feel his suspension is warranted but Pamphilon seems to be a gutless jerk.

  83. crubenst says: Apr 5, 2012 2:10 PM

    And even more arrogant to say it when you know you’re being taped!

  84. imasturbate says: Apr 5, 2012 2:11 PM

    Yes, you are a hero…no other defensive coach has ever talked like that and because of you the hideous Williams has been exposed…

    Give me a break..if anyone doesn’t think the Ryan Brothers, Zimmer, Gunther Cunningham, Jim Schwartz, Marvin Lewis, and so on didn’t talk like that than move to Portland and save a tree.

    The Tony Dungy’s and Wade Phillips are far more the minority.

    Let’s not make this guy out to be some hero…

    pah-lease!

  85. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:11 PM

    @mdd913 unless the NFL knows of the tape… who know Pamphilon could have been the “snitch”.

    ——————————————————————-

    Doesn’t seem likely based on what has already been revealed about the circumstances regarding the tape’s release. However, if that proves to be the case I will do a complete 180.

    The fact that Gleason himself has come out and said otherwise is a pretty telling sign that he feels betrayed by this guy.

  86. glynners says: Apr 5, 2012 2:11 PM

    So you wait until u can make money from the audio before releasing it?

    If he had balls he would have gone straight to the NFL. He’s an opportunistic coward himself. Hiding behind some divine fight to make himself some money

  87. Raider-in-PA says: Apr 5, 2012 2:12 PM

    Just heard the audio myself… Williams is a puzzy! I’d love to see Frankie Gore put HIS head ‘sideways’!!

    Dude looks like Billy Jean King, only a little more feminine… Wonder what powder-puff football team he played for back in the day?

  88. mcs040 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:13 PM

    Gregg Williams needs to be banned for life!!

  89. mikemcdorman says: Apr 5, 2012 2:13 PM

    Pamphilon is a liar.

    He broke confidentiality after swearing to confidentiality.

    He is a liar.

    You may well agree with him that Greg Williams said naughty words, but the fact remains, the man has done something dishonorable.

    Unfortunately, the hypocritical and hyper-critical nature of our country will dictate that most don’t see that.

    And this comment will get more thumbs downs than thumbs ups.

  90. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:13 PM

    Going after Pamphlion is shooting the messenger at this point. The cat is out of the bag, and the Superdome shall be its litterbox.

    ——————————————————————

    Believe it or not, “going after Pamphlion” is not synonymous with defending Williams or the Saints actions.

    I know 80% of PFT posters don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand nuance and multiple issues on the same general story, but those of us who do probably find the filmmaker’s actions reprehensible.

  91. moppy1985 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:14 PM

    cowboyshater….you a saints fan i am guessing? I played football growing up. I had coaches that told us to be tough, hit hard, and play tough defense but I was never told to go after someones knees or head. It is completely idiotic to think that this is a good way to encourage hard play. It is one thing to tell your team to play tough, but it is another to tell them to see how bad a concussion is by hitting him in the head.

  92. sasquash20 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:16 PM

    I love Greg Williams. I hope he is allowed back and becomes the defensive cordinator of my beloved Eagles. I know you Tinker Bells have no balls and have to be politically correct, but not me. I’m all for hurting the other team. As someone who played football for 12 years(1st grade-12th grade) I get him and what he said was a lot like a couple of my favorite coaches said. Your all a bunch of sissies who don’t even understand football.

  93. pistolpete0903 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:19 PM

    The Saints are playing the 49′ers in 2012. Too bad they are playing in NOLA.
    The Saints are going to get quite an earful in their road games….too sad coz I like Brees and most of the Saints.
    Come to think of, why are the players who actually delivered the hits are off the hook. Don’t see much media criticism/NFL action on them. Your boss can tell you to eat crow, doesn’t mean you have to.

  94. crazzeymikey says: Apr 5, 2012 2:21 PM

    This guy was in it just for a check. It’s sad that some people will idolize this guy, when he was just trying to get paid.

  95. moppy1985 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:21 PM

    sasquash20……you pretty much suck at life. I would love it if a bunch of people you work with decided they wanted to take out your knees. I bet you would feel the same way huh

  96. mikemcdorman says: Apr 5, 2012 2:24 PM

    sasquash20

    I played middle linebacker in high school (4A Tenn).

    I totally 100% agree with you.

    I heard the whole tape. I also think “kill the head” was more of a metaphor than anything else, of a piece “attack their will” and “men aren’t equals unless they have equal confidence.”

    Note: both “the will” and “confidence” are located in the head. Kill the head — kill their confidence, and the body will die.

    This witch hunt has gone too far.

  97. emperorzero says: Apr 5, 2012 2:25 PM

    While Pamphilon pats himself on the back, let’s see him have the balls to meet Gleason face-to-face and explain to him why he betrayed his trust. We already knew what kind of person/coach Williams is, but to betray the trust of a dying man? I hope Pamphilon isn’t surprised when he finds himself in the same circle of Hell as Williams.

  98. jcioffi1485 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:26 PM

    Wow. Amazing how the “right to do wrong” code is only exceeded by the man code not rat someone out. Amazing the level of ignorance of fans. This is the same BS code of Honor that was dished out when the Penn State mess blew up last year and people lost their minds over Joe Paterno losing his job.

    Just stop it everyone. Would you feel the same if your son was targeted following a concussion….where he was reduced to a vegetative state later in life ?

  99. ratedgap says: Apr 5, 2012 2:33 PM

    I love all these self righteous, pompous windbags standing on their soapbaoxes acting as if this and worse isn’t said in locker rooms across the country from high school up. Puhlease. All this fake vitriol must stem from a whipping the Saints put on their team at some point since the arrival of Payton and Brees. Williams used an overly aggressive, boneheaded stance in attempting to get his players fired up, especially in today’s NFL, but I am sure you can ask any Eagles players from the Reggie White(RIP) days if Buddy Ryan didn’t say 100x worse to get them fired up. Or hell name your d-coordinator. This is not to excuse the lying and covering up, for which the team should have been punished, but all of a sudden all the haters have on a skirt and their estrogen levels have risen. Give me a break. Take the head coach, GM, assistant coach, players, head popcorn vender, draft picks, money, beignets, gumbo, etouffe, and everything else you want away from New Orleans, when the season starts, we are still gonna stomp on more teams than stomp on us and play a home game for the Superbowl. Be jealous.

  100. whatsupbb415 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:34 PM

    This reporter is gutless for doing something that could damage a man with ALS’s relationship with the Saints. The reporter released something he didn’t have permission too thats completely and utterly wrong and unfair to Steve Gleason and the Saints

  101. whatsupbb415 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:34 PM

    This guy might be the snitch

  102. Wisconsin77 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:35 PM

    Sean Pamphilon brings up a great point about they players complicity in this. If you are a player whose livelihood depends on whether the D-Coord will start you or not, there is little room for argument when you are ordered to do something. That is why the players shouldn’t be punished nearly as severe as the coaches.

  103. moppy1985 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:36 PM

    ok “Kill the head” could be looked at as a metaphor. I understand that part. what about the part where he says we will see how much of a man crabtree is after we blow out that outside ACL. What is that a metaphor for? Kyle Williams has had two concussions lately, lets hit him in the head often. Whats the metaphor for that.

  104. ronrob69 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:38 PM

    I have no problem with a coach telling his players to go out and hit hard. The problem lies with the same coach saying go for a players ACL. You by saying that are jeopardizing the players career and thus his lively hood. Williams should receive a permanent ban from the NFL. St. Louis needs to cut its ties to Williams and send him on his way!!!

  105. randomguy9999 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:39 PM

    the Saints fans are really funny on here getting all spicy about Pamphilon …

    it’s very unlikely Pamphilon will make much or anything from this, and he’s done with the NFL now so those profiteering type arguments don’t hold water guys…..

    also, those thinking he’s going to get sued are way off base, he was released from any confidentiality agreement when he became party to Williams’ conspiracy.

    the timing might be an issue, but maybe he saw the appeal coming up and was concerned Williams et al might get a little undeserved mercy?

    in any event, thanks Pamphilon for making it entirely clear what the Saints were doing.

    and Saints fans? eat it.

  106. mdd913 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:41 PM

    Amazing how the “right to do wrong” code is only exceeded by the man code not rat someone out. Amazing the level of ignorance of fans.

    ——————————————————————–

    This isn’t about being a rat, it’s about betraying the confidence of a terminally-ill man who trusted you to carry out some of his final wishes.

  107. mn62980 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:42 PM

    It physically pains me that Steve Gleason’s name is being brought into this mess. I was fortunate enough to get to meet him once, and I can honestly say that he is the most positive, kindest, all around nicest person I have ever met. There is no one on earth that gets more joy out of life than him. He is a true saint, and a real Saint, and he is the kind of person I wish people associated with my favorite team; not this irresponsible lunatic Gregg Williams.
    I just wish people would remember that not all Saints players are evil, just like not all Saints fans are idiots.
    I guess I try to make myself feel better by thinking about the millions of dollars and service hours this team and these players have given to the city, and less about the thousands they put into some maniac’s bounty fund.

  108. gallogj says: Apr 5, 2012 2:43 PM

    There’s a reason it’s called a “GLADIATOR SPORT”. Sissification of the NFL is upon us. It’s stuff like this that has players like Joe Thomas complaining that “practice is too hard”. Really? Practice? I like the military mentality of some head and assistant coaches. You want your players geared up to run through a wall…not want to take a nap because practice is too hard.

  109. nolarules says: Apr 5, 2012 2:48 PM

    To all of the haters. We got caught and are going to be punished. The way it is. life will go on as will the NFL.
    As for the Super Bowl……well yes, we are still quite happy to have one. And most of you want a big old * next to it. Well then we have something no one else has (well maybe some of you pillow biters are still trying to attach an * to some of the patriots superbowls, which is total nonsense). Just as well wear it with pride if all we are going to hear is that from you internet tough guys

  110. eeerockski says: Apr 5, 2012 2:49 PM

    Go home to ya mammy! I want my blood sport bloody!

  111. packerrube13 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:50 PM

    edavidberg says: Apr 5, 2012 1:50 PM

    It’s kind of ironic after than rant it was the Niners that knocked out Pierre Thomas on the goal line with a helmet to helmet hit.

    Gregg Williams is more likely going to be selling insurance than coaching football ever again.

    —————————————————

    There is NOTHING wrong with selling insurance.

    You’re in good hands.

    Ha ha

  112. mikemcdorman says: Apr 5, 2012 2:52 PM

    Would you feel the same if your son was targeted following a concussion….where he was reduced to a vegetative state later in life ?
    ——

    Were my son a grown rational man who knowingly chose to play professional football, having played the game myself, I would know going in that he would be targeted like this. And I would respect his decision.

    The naivete as to what the game is really like is what’s crazy.

    This is how the game is played. This is how locker rooms sound. The players say much worse things to each other. Almost all of them.

    The kids attracted to this game at a young age are cut from a certain cloth. The men who play it as adults are elite athletes cut from that cloth.

    If you’re not cut from the cloth, that’s totally fine. But these men are, and they contracted for this.

    The paternalism and moralizing (looking at you Florio) is what’s most disturbing to me in all of this. I’m being honest.

  113. hendawg21 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:55 PM

    Say that to his face Sean…

    And you think there are no offensive coaches who don’t have bounties??? Oh sure there are check out some of the dirty O-line play in most games, yes that’s right there are defensive players coaches would love to have out of the game…

    I love a got physical violent legal hit…but we do have on both sides of the ball targets that each team would like to take out the game…see Greg you messed up when you started naming names, and pointing out what areas to hit…should’ve just said lets go out and kick some arse…and the rest will take care of itself…

  114. northstars1991 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:56 PM

    If this Pamphilon person wants to speak up, then let him. It’s called freedom of speech, enjoy it while you still can!

  115. bungals4life says: Apr 5, 2012 2:57 PM

    Wow, people like to kill the messenger. All this guy did was release was let us know what Gregg Williams was actually saying. I don’t know about you, but I’m glad he did cause I never thought Williams would say things to the extent he did. As for the money grab stuff, is there any proof of this? I’m seeing it mentioned quite a bit, but with no proof other than him doing a documentary that happened to have this footage. How do we expect to ever get the truth in these stories if we hate on the people that provide it, and defend the liars? I’m glad he did it, and I hope Williams and Payton get banned for life. Payton had to know this stuff was being said so he’s just as much to blame in my opinion(although I do like him, and it would be sad to see him gone from the game). All the people hating on the whistleblower are basically saying that their fine that Williams issued orders to attack ACL’s and ankles, and possibly head shots depending on if he was talking literally or not……there’s no place for it in the game, and if it wasn’t for this guy we wouldn’t realize what a piece of crap Williams really is. Don’t kill the messenger people…..unless you just want lies

  116. jcbadger34 says: Apr 5, 2012 2:59 PM

    Laughing at all the Saints fans trying to deflect once again. “Oh, now Pamphilon is worse than the Saints!!”

    No……no he isn’t. Not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. You people are just pathetic. It has to be someone else’s fault, not the Saints!

  117. jcbadger34 says: Apr 5, 2012 3:02 PM

    mikemcdorman says:

    “I heard the whole tape. I also think “kill the head” was more of a metaphor than anything else, of a piece “attack their will” and “men aren’t equals unless they have equal confidence.”

    And what was “Take out Crabtree’s ACL” a metaphor for? And “Take out Vernon Davis’ ankles?”

    Pathetic attempt at spinning, Mikey.

  118. joesphkerr says: Apr 5, 2012 3:02 PM

    Looks like Sapp was wrong about Shockey being the source. Just a wild hunch, but I am guessing that this tape provided by Pamphilon is the source.

  119. bigshadetree says: Apr 5, 2012 3:14 PM

    Gregg Williams, “that’s not me”

  120. butchsouth says: Apr 5, 2012 3:20 PM

    If this was a documentary about Steve Gleason then wtf was Pampy and Gleason doing in a 2011 playoff pre-game meeting? No offense to Gleason but he wasn’t on that unit and he nor his paparazzi dude should’ve been in attendance. Furthermore, Williams sounds like Buddy Ryan who basically revolutionized the Defensive system and is the architect of many systems utilized today. Ryan was his mentor and is a representative of the old school smash mouth football we’ve all came to know and love. If
    there are anye hell does Goddell want? Pretty soon the players are going to implementing the two hand touch or using the patty cake technique FOH!!

  121. 13curtjp says: Apr 5, 2012 3:24 PM

    My god even after this people are still defending Williams….I understand being a fan and supporting your team but have some morals.

  122. jcioffi1485 says: Apr 5, 2012 3:45 PM

    Wow. Amazing how the “right to do wrong” code is only exceeded by the man code not to rat someone out.

    Equally confounding is the level of ignorance of fans. This is the same BS Code of Honor that was dished out when the Penn State mess blew up last year and people lost their minds over Joe Paterno losing his job.

    Joe Pa knew and he covered up. Rightfully so, his life and his career will end with a big freaking asterisk it deserves. It’s bleeping sport! It has no nutritional value of any type and the Vince Lombardi trophy is just a prop.

    Here you all are defending the MOSTLY illiterate millionaires….and this soon to be millionaire, Claiborne with his his Wonderlic score of 4 (God, I wonder what color crayon he used for the test?)

    Just stop it everyone. Would you feel the same if your son was targeted following a concussion….where he was reduced to a vegetative state later in life by intellectual midgets that have been harvested to be legalized hit men?

    At the end of the day, everyone needs to be banned for life. I say lets get to the players who did Williams bidding. I will pick my nose with utter glee when Jonathan Vilma is banned for life!

    JCioffi1485…(because 14 Kenny Anderson + 85 Isaac Curtis= six)

  123. citiciti says: Apr 5, 2012 5:16 PM

    Popcorn here get your popcorn!!

  124. drbandkgb says: Apr 5, 2012 5:39 PM

    This is amazing to me..

    ALL of you enjoy the big hits… ALL OF YOU!
    and yet when you see how these big hits come to be you all act like its disgusting. RETARDS!

    Do you all think GW is the only guy doing this?
    Id bet all of the league did this..

    I find it worse that GW took all the blame and the major amount of punishment for this. The head coach is the man in charge.. HE knew what was going on and for all we know told GW to do it..

    Football is a battle…
    Its a War…

    Its not a sport for the tame… You all ask theses cats to win.. Then you get upset when you see how that cake is baked.. If you want to start looking at hits.. Start with one’s like the Carson Palmer play off hit.. I havent seen the first replay of any Saint player go for the knee’s like the CP play..

  125. mikemcdorman says: Apr 5, 2012 6:03 PM

    jcbadger34 says:
    mikemcdorman says:

    “I heard the whole tape. I also think “kill the head” was more of a metaphor than anything else, of a piece “attack their will” and “men aren’t equals unless they have equal confidence.”

    And what was “Take out Crabtree’s ACL” a metaphor for? And “Take out Vernon Davis’ ankles?”

    Pathetic attempt at spinning, Mikey.

    ——–

    I agree that the ACL comment was beyond the pale.

    But I also think that “kill the head, and the body will die” was likely a metaphor run wild. He was known to use that expression for years.

    For the record, I’m a Browns fan, not a Saints fan. I could care less about them from a hometown standpoint.

  126. oxpic says: Apr 5, 2012 11:10 PM

    WOW

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