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Cris Carter calls for lifetime ban for Gregg Williams

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Cris Carter has joined the growing chorus of former NFL players who say that the words captured on tape of Gregg Williams urging his players to injure opposing players go so far beyond the bounds of fair play that he shouldn’t ever coach again.

Carter, the wide receiver who played 16 pro seasons, said on ESPN’s NFL Live that Williams’ indefinite suspension should be extended to a permanent ban.

“I believe that Gregg Williams, he shouldn’t be able to coach football any more, and the reason why is because we have given him our best athletes,” Carter said, via ESPN spokesman Bill Hofheimer. “We have given him the best athletes to coach in the NFL for the last 16 years and he has taught them the worst tactics that you can teach a football player. So, I believe the only penalty that would suffice for this type of crime: he shouldn’t be able to coach any more. It is a privilege for us to be able to play football, and a privilege to play in the NFL, and he has taken the last 15, 16 years of his career, and he has decided to do that with it. I believe that Roger Goodell, his penalty should be: he shouldn’t be able to coach in the NFL any more.”

There’s been a surprising disconnect in the way current and former NFL players have reacted to the Williams audio, with some saying it’s typical of the way coaches speak to their teams, and others saying it’s so appalling that it has no business in the NFL. Carter falls in the latter camp.

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139 Responses to “Cris Carter calls for lifetime ban for Gregg Williams”
  1. zlmillerkazz says: Apr 6, 2012 4:56 PM

    Agreed.

  2. blacknole08 says: Apr 6, 2012 4:57 PM

    I saw Cris Carter on ESPN saying this and laughed. But I do agree with him.

  3. pooflingingmonkey says: Apr 6, 2012 4:58 PM

    And for the first time in years, I agree with Cris Carter.

    Williams should indeed be banned from the NFL for life.

  4. goindy2006 says: Apr 6, 2012 4:59 PM

    Why so serious Cris Carter why so serious?

  5. eaglesnoles05 says: Apr 6, 2012 4:59 PM

    When are some of the 49ers players that made total fools of that D after that speech gonna come out and lol on the internet waves? Alex Smith schooled them all around the yard that day, when it counted most.

  6. cakemixa says: Apr 6, 2012 5:00 PM

    Could we also get a lifetime ban on Carter speaking, too, while we’re at it?

  7. drewsg says: Apr 6, 2012 5:00 PM

    I wonder when was the last time Gregg Williams turned on the news. I think even HE knows his NFL career is over

  8. bearsstillsuck says: Apr 6, 2012 5:00 PM

    Will somebody please translate this into regular season statistics since that’s the only thing drew brees cares about so he can finally get his explanation?

  9. eaglesfootballfan says: Apr 6, 2012 5:01 PM

    Listening to Greg Williams Audio makes alot of people sick. You don’t target people’s knee’s. That is there career and how they support there families and he is telling his players to go out there and “kill the head” and “knees”. It’s just wrong.

  10. phreakin says: Apr 6, 2012 5:02 PM

    I agree. But only if “CC” isn’t allowed to be an “expert” on anything. Him breaking down games is PAINFUL to listen to. Maybe if he took some of the hood out it would be easier.

  11. thekidjdk says: Apr 6, 2012 5:02 PM

    I call for a lifetime ban of Cris Carter, he’s just horrible…

  12. wholelottacrazygoingon says: Apr 6, 2012 5:03 PM

    Remind me again how many players were injured by the Saints between 2009-2011. Where do they stand in unsportsmanlike conduct penalties? Is it the most in the league?

    Williams is an #######, no doubt but his players weren’t playing any dirtier than any other players.

    We just love to get hysterical about everything.

  13. pgui88 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:03 PM

    I call for a lifetime ban on ever having to listen to Chris Carter again.

  14. timegambit says: Apr 6, 2012 5:05 PM

    There, we did it!

    We finally dragged an opinion out of Cris Carter.

    He’s such an introvert.

  15. purplekoolaid1 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:05 PM

    While I totally agree with this, aren’t we FAR past the point where we take anything this guy has to say serious?

  16. matthewderbes says: Apr 6, 2012 5:06 PM

    Wow! Look who got their name on a headline again, and this time it’s not for being a junky.

    I think we can all agree that Gregg Williams is never going to coach again in the NFL. But now that Cris Carter thinks so, I guess it’s going to happen.

  17. eaglesnoles05 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:06 PM

    I wouldn’t go as easy on the players involved as they’re projecting to go either, personally. Some of them would be gone too.

  18. glac1 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:06 PM

    and the head coach, his assistant coaches, players, managers and owner. The franchise should be revoked.

  19. deathtoromo says: Apr 6, 2012 5:06 PM

    He should be sentenced to coach the Browns.

  20. thejuddstir says: Apr 6, 2012 5:07 PM

    The only problem I have with Carter’s comments is that by ommitting the players involvement implies that the players deserve a free pass. I agree what Payton, Williams and Loomis did deserves harsher penalties but let’s not excuse the players who participated in this illegal activity. One or two people may devise the plan for robbing a bank but all who participated in the heist need to be punished accordingly.

  21. mvpolamalu says: Apr 6, 2012 5:07 PM

    The punishment id like to see for williams is for him to have to play running back in a game against james harrison and ray lewis

  22. bluefan204 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:09 PM

    I’ve said it from the beginning. Lifetime ban.

    Gregg Williams, and others like him, are bad for the NFL.

  23. Soulman45 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:09 PM

    Is this the same fellow that said Calvin Johnson was not a top 5 receive.
    Who care what he think.

  24. trbowman says: Apr 6, 2012 5:09 PM

    Right now Williams needs to believe he has a chance to coach again, but he’s got 0 chance of being reinstated.

  25. nemallow says: Apr 6, 2012 5:09 PM

    Wow I can’t believe I agree with Cris Carter

  26. getthegleam says: Apr 6, 2012 5:09 PM

    I agree 100% with a lifetime ban. Personally I don’t think he should participate with anything football on any level and that includes the broadcast booth.

  27. clarkisgod says: Apr 6, 2012 5:10 PM

    I wonder since he has been in the league for 16 years, and the fact that we have free agency, how many offensive players on his own teams were bounties on previous teams?

  28. birdbrainsnj says: Apr 6, 2012 5:10 PM

    He also calls for him self to be in the hall of fame. Unfortunately, when he talks, no one listens.

  29. lasher1650 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:10 PM

    Even if Williams is not given a permanent suspension for the League, nobody is going to hire him again after this The guy’s career is done as a coach in the NFL.

  30. artvan15 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:10 PM

    We are a nation of forgiveness. He just needs a little rehabilitation for 1 year. Then let him coach.

  31. 808raiderinparadise says: Apr 6, 2012 5:11 PM

    Who wouldn’t agree to that? and if Sean Payton knew all about it, then his 1 year suspension seems suttle to me ….. maybe 2-3 years.

    While were on Cris Carter …. I dislike him for everything he is: an arrogant analyst, and for constantly degrading young players in the NFL …. like he did to Calvin Johnson (best in game) and even the Darrius Heyward-Bey who had a 1,000 yards last season …. He was a great HOF player with 0 class …

    How is Tim Brown still not in the HOF as a WR? Top 3-5 in every recieving category and only had a pro-bowl QB for the last 3 years of his career with Rich Gannon at that.

  32. alexdgibson says: Apr 6, 2012 5:11 PM

    I almost disagree because it is a Cris Carter statement. But he’s 100% right.

  33. weepingjebus says: Apr 6, 2012 5:11 PM

    Silver lining is that most of the fans seem to be in agreement that tough, physical play is good and indeed inherent to the sport, but hit squads are not. This is something to build on if Goodell is going to fix the huge brand damage coming out of this, of a sort that makes Rae Carruth look like the Easter Bunny. I’m hard core and even I am having a tough time coming up with rationalizations for letting my kids watch games where the staff might be paying players to cripple somebody. For a casual fan that’s not even a tough decision to make.

  34. binkystevens says: Apr 6, 2012 5:11 PM

    Cool. Let’s get back to football stories. It’s terrible what happened and this guy should be banned forever, but I’m already exhausted of this story. Even the much over-hyped mock drafts are a better alternative at this point.

  35. chadmurdigan says: Apr 6, 2012 5:12 PM

    I hear Williams is going to listen to Tebow’s sermon in Texas on Sunday, so Greg may well have a conversion experience.

    If that’s the case, hallelujah!

  36. skoobyfl says: Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    We should ban anyone for playing hard, flag football is more fun to watch out of the coliseum.

  37. mancave001 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    Add another voice to the “banned” chorus. Mine.

  38. chawk12thman says: Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    Notice that:

    Former Plaers for ban = Offense

    Former player saying its normal = Defense

  39. jedimasterbates says: Apr 6, 2012 5:16 PM

    I thought all he did was catch touchdowns

  40. coys10 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:17 PM

    Didn’t Chris Carter play for Buddy Ryan, Gregg Williams’s mentor in this stuff? And Chris Carter never heard this stuff before. What a liar and hypocrite. Where was he when Buddy was doing this?

  41. pturner81 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:17 PM

    Carter should get a lifetime ban from ESPN for not having Megatron in his top 5 receivers last year

  42. fissels says: Apr 6, 2012 5:19 PM

    I think a lifetime ban is warranted in this case. Williams went over the line going after a guy’s ACL

  43. 12thmanhawks says: Apr 6, 2012 5:19 PM

    Saints football used to be the laughing stock of nfl, but after Katrina and drew Bree’s came you gain respect. But now your team and the whole organization including the fans are a disgrace to the nfl. I guess u guys r back to where you came from , being a garbage.

  44. shotgunformation5wide says: Apr 6, 2012 5:19 PM

    What’s almost as disgusting as Greg Williams’ actions are the way guys like Chris Carter and Warren Sapp are trying to buy themselves back into the favor of football fans with this single issue. Not gonna happen!!! You may satisfy your corporate sponsors with this rhetoric, …and maybe ease your conscience by towing the company line … but real football fans are not basing any decisions on your opinions …. believe that! WOW! This is why we have courts in America because the Mob mentality can get outta hand real quick. Especially when you’re dealing with lesser minds!

  45. mrvikingsfan11 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:19 PM

    Here here Mr.Carter I agree. Black list that sicko.

  46. kungfubillysims says: Apr 6, 2012 5:19 PM

    I call for a lifetime ban on Cris Carter

  47. mp42245 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:20 PM

    Is coaching someone to injure and maim any different than someone putting two dogs in a pit to fight to the death, and then if they are not the right stuff, electrocuting them. I think president has been set as far as lifetime bans are concerned.

  48. wisconsinvikingsfan says: Apr 6, 2012 5:21 PM

    Lifetime ban for Williams and for Payton. Payton knew about the bounties and had the power to stop it and didn’t. If Goodell had the balls it would be a lifetime ban for both of them.

  49. strokeytheclown says: Apr 6, 2012 5:22 PM

    I’m of two minds on this one. On one I agree with Carter. On the other, I think he may doing what he can to narrow the field for the HOF vote for the year 2050 when he may be picked.

  50. acmepackers says: Apr 6, 2012 5:24 PM

    I misread the headline. I thought I saw “Hall of Fame calls for lifetime ban for Cris Carter”

  51. vtsquirm says: Apr 6, 2012 5:24 PM

    lets see, he knew they were investigating him for bounties. He lied to the commish. went rogue and continued to tell his guys to hurt players on other teams (49ers). Its a blatant disregard for rules. If it wouldn’t be for the 49er game, i’d say that he could maybe learn. But its obvious he can’t learn a lesson! Ban him.

  52. jimiinpa says: Apr 6, 2012 5:27 PM

    what does warren sapp think?

  53. hillbillyjim says: Apr 6, 2012 5:32 PM

    Is he going to back this up with “Calvin Johnson isn’t a top receiver in the NFL”?

  54. therealdmuls says: Apr 6, 2012 5:32 PM

    Maybe once Chris Carter gets into the Hall of Fame I will respect his opinion. Ha I make myself laugh.

  55. frankiemontana says: Apr 6, 2012 5:33 PM

    Ban Carter, Sapp, Irving, from ever speaking to the public again. the defensive players in question should investigate the NFL and Goddell for having the “bounty” under investigation for over 3 years and not doing anything about it. How many players were hurt because no action was taken back then?

  56. nflfollower says: Apr 6, 2012 5:33 PM

    I’m all for banning Williams for life, but while we’re at it, can we throw in Chris Carter too? Kill two birds with one stone? It would make a lot of people happy….

  57. bucfandango says: Apr 6, 2012 5:36 PM

    2010 Saints played the Bucs in Tampa, Kareem Huggins RB suffered a torn ACL at the hand of Gregg Williams Bounty Hunters. Huggins was injured after making a seven-yard catch on third down and was hit low by Saints linebacker Marvin Mitchell. He was young and trying to stay on the team. This injury pretty much sealed his fate in the NFL and he hasn’t played since. It would be one thing if it was accidental injury, but this time Gregg’s plan worked to a Tee and they ended young Huggy’s career in the NFL. Way to go Saints. I’m sure he is livid every time he sees a report about this scheme. Payton should send him his checks for the next season.

  58. wholelottacrazygoingon says: Apr 6, 2012 5:39 PM

    Bunch of hysterical reactionary people in here. Show me the actual physical harm that was caused by these bounties. Williams can tell his players to go jump over the moon but that doesn’t mean that they went out and jumped over the moon.

    Williams went to far, there is no question about that, and he is paying his pound of flesh.

    Stop being so melodramatic and chill the heck out.

  59. mybrunoblog says: Apr 6, 2012 5:45 PM

    Players have been involved in homicide investigations, gambling, prostitution, narcotics, fraud, and more crimes. All of them have returned to the NFL.
    Let Williams return after a 1 year suspension.

  60. zombiefrankenstein says: Apr 6, 2012 5:45 PM

    As soon as I heard that audio, my first thought was “What will Cris Carter think of this?” Now I have my answer

  61. TheWizard says: Apr 6, 2012 5:46 PM

    Good point mp4, let’s give him the punishment Vick got.

  62. tombrookshire says: Apr 6, 2012 5:47 PM

    When Cris was an Eagle and taking drugs and who knows what else, Ryan gave him a chance to redeem himself by shipping him off to MN. Why today, with all of his success and money is he so harsh? Remember where you came from dude, redemption and second chances. Hell, he didn’t do anything that was worse than what Mike Vick did. Carter would be the first guy to fight for a second chance for Mike. All I’m saying is don’t be so quick to take away a man’s livelihood. He has a family to take care of.

  63. footballfan292 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:50 PM

    Yet Saints fans are convinced that he didn’t do anything different than any other coach in the league.

    Any respect you guys and your organization gained after Katrina is now gone.

  64. andyreiddoublecheeseburger says: Apr 6, 2012 5:50 PM

    Go away dude! You’re opinion matters naught.

  65. jade amor says: Apr 6, 2012 5:56 PM

    chawk12thman says:Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    Notice that:

    Former Plaers for ban = Offense

    Former player saying its normal = Defense
    ____________________

    When did Sapp play offense?

  66. marcinhouston says: Apr 6, 2012 5:57 PM

    It’s worth noting that Williams may have taught his athletes the worst tactics, but he has taught those tactics rather ineffectively as a poor teacher of them, and teams like the ravens, steelers, bears, giants, etc have carted off a lot more players than him.

  67. 86chawk says: Apr 6, 2012 6:01 PM

    Even if he is reinstated, what team in their right mind would hire him. It would be a total public relations disaster…..his career is over even without a lifetime ban!!

  68. vegasjack1 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:04 PM

    Not a fan of “CC” but agree with him this time. It’s the stated intent for specific injury to specific players that is so ugly. The game has enough violence in itself without added incentive.

  69. theytukrjobs says: Apr 6, 2012 6:19 PM

    In reality the Saints are probably the only team in the NFL that would employ him at this point. I don’t think any other teams support THAT level of malice and cheating.

  70. pacodawg says: Apr 6, 2012 6:20 PM

    Carter’s lucky they didn’t ban him for life.

  71. acetw says: Apr 6, 2012 6:20 PM

    I’d just as soon see Carter banned from public speaking in any form.

  72. patfic15 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:21 PM

    Who is Calvin Johnson?

  73. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Apr 6, 2012 6:21 PM

    I guess Chris don’t think anyone else should get a second chance but the brothers !

  74. municrew says: Apr 6, 2012 6:29 PM

    @deathtoromo
    He should be forced to coach the Browns?

    Browns defense = 10th in league
    Saints defense = 24th in league

    You can have manboobs Gregg and his “hit squad”. We’ll continue to rank higher than him and NO’s defense with hard work and class.

  75. chandler1 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:32 PM

    Tainted Superbowl forever… Loser Saints.

  76. gb4mn0 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:33 PM

    wisconsinvikingsfan says:
    Apr 6, 2012 5:21 PM
    Lifetime ban for Williams and for Payton. Payton knew about the bounties and had the power to stop it and didn’t. If Goodell had the balls it would be a lifetime ban for both of them.

    ——————————————-

    I wish it was legal to hunt vikequeef fans living in WI. We don’t want you wretched sex offending toads living here. Take your inflatable boyfriend and leave………….NOW!

  77. bearsfan63 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:35 PM

    Offensive players seem to be more “outraged” but how different is it than having a coach tell an offensive lineman to chopblock a defensive linemans knees to take him out of the game? that’s been going on forever and is not even illegal if they’re doing it two players away. Ask Dan Hampton how many times that has happened in his career.

  78. dat504 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:40 PM

    It’s easy to see that you bunch of thong wearers have never played this sport on any level

  79. tstanaus says: Apr 6, 2012 6:43 PM

    This makes 3 loudmouths with questionable charcter that should SHUTUP. Michael Irvin, numerous drug arrests, Warren Sapp (anybody remember him celebrating the incredibly dirty hit on the Packers Clifton?), and now Carter, who was released by the Eagles for alcohol and drug abuse. These guys are huge hypocrites.

  80. lennydpocketqb says: Apr 6, 2012 6:48 PM

    He’s kind of correct on this topic. This might be a first for Cris.

  81. hey804 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:49 PM

    Hey Florio, why don’t you put up a link to the Antonio Piece interview on ESPN in which he states he’s made thousands of dollars in “incentives” throughout his career and ALL seven of is DCs gave speeches very similar to GWs. He also stated he loved GW and would even play for him today. This is not just a Saints and GW issue. This is league wide.

  82. ghjjf says: Apr 6, 2012 6:53 PM

    That’s ironic considering that Cris Carter already has a lifetime ban from the Hall of Fame.

  83. realdealsteel says: Apr 6, 2012 6:54 PM

    Sorry..don’t agree. Antonio Pierce said today on the NFL network that what Williams said was said by every team he’s been on. Chris Carter played on offense. So of course he’s going to feel that way. But go ask any and every defensive player in the league that has played atleast 5 years in the league and they will tell you that what Williams said isn’t the first time they’ve heard it.

  84. gbpackets says: Apr 6, 2012 6:54 PM

    Here’s the one thing that’s been lost in all this. Gregg Williams is a bad coach. Saints defense sucked. It’s no loss at all to ban him for life.

  85. wisconsinvikingsfan says: Apr 6, 2012 6:55 PM

    gb4mno

    You wouldn’t say that to my face you *ussy!

  86. FinFan68 says: Apr 6, 2012 6:59 PM

    jade amor says:
    Apr 6, 2012 5:56 PM
    chawk12thman says:Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM

    Notice that:

    Former Plaers for ban = Offense

    Former player saying its normal = Defense
    ____________________

    When did Sapp play offense?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Initially Sapp was not nearly so outraged and hebeven made comments about the “snitch”. He only changed his tune after NFLN stopped putting him on air after that…and now he needs the money for his “bankruptcy” drama.

  87. realdealsteel says: Apr 6, 2012 6:59 PM

    chawk12thman says:
    Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM
    Notice that:

    Former Players for ban = Offense

    Former players saying its normal = Defense

    ————————————————–

    And that’s the problem. This whole game is being slanted more and more to offense. Look at the recent rule changes…99% of all of them are for the protection of the offensive players. There are no new rules helping the defenses.

  88. realdealsteel says: Apr 6, 2012 7:02 PM

    hey804 says:
    Apr 6, 2012 6:49 PM
    Hey Florio, why don’t you put up a link to the Antonio Piece interview on ESPN in which he states he’s made thousands of dollars in “incentives” throughout his career and ALL seven of is DCs gave speeches very similar to GWs. He also stated he loved GW and would even play for him today. This is not just a Saints and GW issue. This is league wide
    ————————————————–And it’s been this way from the begining. This is nothing new despite the way the media is spinning it like the Saints are the only team doing it.

  89. threedeep1998 says: Apr 6, 2012 7:05 PM

    Never understood the hate for Cris Carter. Hella arrogant but dude is spot on about this.

  90. gb4mn0 says: Apr 6, 2012 7:08 PM

    wisconsinvikingsfan says:
    Apr 6, 2012 6:55 PM
    gb4mno

    You wouldn’t say that to my face you *ussy!

    ——————————————–

    Yes I would if you’d come out from behind your mommy’s skirt long enough.

  91. nard100 says: Apr 6, 2012 7:10 PM

    marcinhouston says:
    Apr 6, 2012 5:57 PM
    It’s worth noting that Williams may have taught his athletes the worst tactics, but he has taught those tactics rather ineffectively as a poor teacher of them, and teams like the ravens, steelers, bears, giants, etc have carted off a lot more players than him.

    ————————————————————
    Hmmm, so the infererence here is that these other teams have also had bounties and we simply more successful? Anybody here got audio or video of Perry Fewell or Tom Coughlin offering money to JPP for a “kill shot”? thought so. Really to suggest that “Colonel” Coughlin (as some like to joke) is capable of such reprehensible conduct is truly pitiful and honestly shameful. I get that Saints fans feel bad about how others view their team, but to make completely baseless accusations that impugn the hard fought reputation of others just to make yourselves feel better is beyond dishonorable. You cry about results and you intentionally miss the point. Even if not one person got hurt from this, you all know it is wrong to incentivise purposely injuring other players. Period. To do so even after being warned for another two years (and actively working to cover it up) is what warranted the punishment that was handed down. If you’re going to be angry (and you should be), be angry at the right people. People like Greg Williams who has brought dishonor to the good people who helped pay his salary (the fans) and violated an implicit trust to train atheletes to play hard, but within the rules. Be angry at Sean Payton because he had the chance to do the right thing in 2009 and didn’t do it and again brings dishonor to players on his own team who weren’t involved like Drew Brees, who had a record setting season. Ask the owner how this could go on during his watch and he didn’t know about it (which he did by the way). Saints fans, please, please, please stop sniping at the rest of the league and its fans in the hope that something will stick because if there’s one thing the NFL is notorious for is leaks and the more pressure you put on the NFL by your stubborn refusal to accepts facts means that more of the Bounty Gate’s facts are going to come out and your embarrassment will only get worse. This weeks audio is just the opening salvo. Let it go while you still can.

  92. tat2dey says: Apr 6, 2012 7:15 PM

    Put some skirts on these “guys” with little pink flags tied around their waists already and be done with it already.

  93. kiltherl says: Apr 6, 2012 7:23 PM

    Okay after we drown him…lets burn him…after that lets hang em his death will be so epic it will drown us in a sense of our own self righteousness

  94. shinnbone says: Apr 6, 2012 7:24 PM

    Hey it’s a good thing they didn’t record any locker room conversations when Nitschke played.

  95. proudliberal85392 says: Apr 6, 2012 7:28 PM

    Ban Williams for life and investigate/ban others if indicated. This has turned into the National Felony League.

  96. fullhouseofcards says: Apr 6, 2012 7:31 PM

    Can we get a lifetime ban on Cris Carter as an NFL analyst? Good football player…horrible analyst.

  97. yojoemama says: Apr 6, 2012 7:35 PM

    Cris Carter is single-handedly preventing WRs from making it into the HOF. He has the best stats among the nominees and will get in before the Tim Browns and Andre Reeds. But because he’s such a disliked donkey, he’s been getting blocked every year and creating this logjam of WRs.

  98. Bearfan54 says: Apr 6, 2012 7:35 PM

    Whatever happened to a second chance? I mean the guy is a turd for teaching his players to actually hurt someone but what if indeed he is sorry? I am starting to question all these former players who want to be righteous with someone else’s business.

  99. brintfatre says: Apr 6, 2012 7:49 PM

    Why aren’t we seeing a list of injuries caused by the bounty system?

    Also, I’d like to see stats on how the bounty-era Saint’s compair to non-bounty defenses in the leage for causing injuries.

  100. crankdatmanningham82 says: Apr 6, 2012 7:51 PM

    Greg Williams speech sounded like the tactics of a serial killer

  101. mjkelly77 says: Apr 6, 2012 8:06 PM

    Id like to see a lifetime ban for Cris Carter.

  102. obamareallysucks says: Apr 6, 2012 8:30 PM

    ray lewis was complicit in a double murder and the racist carter says nothing?

  103. backtothebowl says: Apr 6, 2012 8:34 PM

    Spoken like a true Hall of Famer…wait, nevermind.

  104. monkeesfan says: Apr 6, 2012 8:38 PM

    The reason for the disconnect stems from the question that seems to have gone unasked – if the Saints were operating a bounty system, where were the dirty hits? Gregg Williams talked about going after a player’s head – so where were the head shots? All the video shown in discussions of Bountygate are of CLEAN HITS. At the time (2009-11) the controversy over dirty play was about the Tennessee Titans – the Saints weren’t even discussed as far as hits that were debateable.

    And BTW, in that 2011 playoff game with the 49ers, the Niners were the team considered more physical than the Saints.

  105. monkeesfan says: Apr 6, 2012 8:40 PM

    nard100 like Roger Goodell is talking ragtime. The Saints played cleaner than a lot of other teams.

  106. bduncanscott says: Apr 6, 2012 8:41 PM

    Great another washed up football player who feels their opinion should matter! Lets just caaaaaaaallllm down everyone! Let’s not forget that Roger Goodell just bribed the players union, LITERALLY BRIBED THE PLAYERS UNION which too bad for them they took, all to steal caps space from the Cowboys and Redskins to make up for the fact they F’d up and were going to have the cap lowered. It’ s all hush hush for the moment but the government has already caught wind of Goodells “bounty scandle” so it’s a matter of time before it blows up in his face and he’s under the microscope. Bribing labor unions = jail time

  107. bduncanscott says: Apr 6, 2012 8:44 PM

    CRIS CARTER your parents shouldn’t be allowed to be alive anymore, not sure which ghetto you “over came” but there is an H in chris unless I’m overlooking your deep scandinavian/viking heritage

  108. gerttownmomo says: Apr 6, 2012 8:44 PM

    i say first we shoot him, then we hang him. then we burn him. then when he’s good and dead we bury him. then we dig him up and shoot him again. then hang him. then we drown him to death and bury him again. then we cut the lombardi in half and give half to the colts for peyton’s interception. and give the other half to the vikings for making brett favre make bad decisions.

    we must knight warren sapp, cris carter and michael irvin, have a special hall of fame session to vote them into the hall of fame for their impeccable sterling careers on and off the field and for having the guts to say EXACTLY what the nfl wants them to say even if it is unpopular. yeah, that will do it.

    oh yeah, and kill the head too. eradicate all references of the new orleans saints from the annals of nfl history. ban tom benson from the nfl for two lifetimes and hire a native american medicine man to summon another hurricane 10 times more powerful than katrina so there is absolutely NO possibility new orleans and its people will ever pollute the fine, upstanding humanity of the rest of the country. no scratch country, WORLD! yeah, that’s the ticket!

    do i sound like a bandwaggoner now? baaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    DOH!

  109. dobberdubinsky says: Apr 6, 2012 8:47 PM

    @ wiscnsinvikingfan and gb4mno:

    You guys should arrange to meet and scrap it out on the street instead of hiding behind your comps like a couple of gutless cowards. Beat the in-bred down wisconsinvikingfan and cut everyone of his fingers off with scissors so he has to type with his nose then castrate him with a blunt shovel, make a coin purse out of his scrotum and sell it back to him.

    How do you know that the toothbrush was invented by a Packers fan? Because if it was invented by anyone else it would’ve been called a teethbrush.

  110. encroachmentor says: Apr 6, 2012 8:56 PM

    What a hypocrite. I guess CC only thinks players deserve a second chance. Someone should have asked CC if he deserved to be in the league after what happened with him while he was on the Eagles. Come on man!

  111. birdcen says: Apr 6, 2012 8:58 PM

    Chris should worry about his goon son before worrying about the NFL…what has he done in college? Getting in trouble at OSU? Priorities bud….family first.

  112. cowboyscanada says: Apr 6, 2012 8:58 PM

    Chris Carter is an idiot. I dont totally disagree with him, but now that he said it, im not sure. Cant stand watching that moron on tv,,,such a goof!

  113. ivibaileyivi says: Apr 6, 2012 9:04 PM

    brintfatre says:
    Apr 6, 2012 7:49 PM
    Why aren’t we seeing a list of injuries caused by the bounty system?

    Also, I’d like to see stats on how the bounty-era Saint’s compair to non-bounty defenses in the leage for causing injuries.

    __________________________________

    You Moron you dont need a list did you listen to the audio??? its called intent idiot!!! You are a Knucklehead just like the other delusional AINTS fans. The proof is in the pudding, or in this case the audio. As a head coach and GM Payton and Loomis should be held accountable just the same as Williams and all be banned from the NFL. Come on the league went to them more than once and they all lied every single time. What the AINTS did and not just Williams did is disgusting and the hammer should fall on every player that sat in that room that Saturday before the 49ers game. I give a little credit for Williams coming out and saying look i messed up and admitting it , and the other bozo’s Payton, Loomis, Sharper and other players lied. After that meeting Williams had with his D i bet at least one player with some brains went to higher authority and spilled the beans, they then just brushed it aside leaving them just as accountable as Williams. Its should be treated just like the Joe Paterno case. Any person defending any of the AINTS is an absoulote slow Adult and dont understand the difference between reality and just plain old CRAZY.

    Who dat nation!! You a CHEATING,DIRTY and DISGUSTING nation!!!

    **2009 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS NEW ORLEANS AINTS**

  114. sfsaintsfan says: Apr 6, 2012 9:33 PM

    Hall of Fame calls for a lifetime ban of Chris Carter.

  115. realityonetwo says: Apr 6, 2012 9:37 PM

    Carter is absolutely right.

  116. backindasaddle says: Apr 6, 2012 9:39 PM

    Chris Carter should never get ‘All Righteous’ over anything! He is by NO MEANS a virtuous.

    Chris…. just shut up!

  117. gerttownmomo says: Apr 6, 2012 10:00 PM

    @brainfart — baaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaa

  118. gerttownmomo says: Apr 6, 2012 10:03 PM

    just a little word about INTENT. it was my INTENT to be a millionaire by january 1, 2012 but i wasn’t. do i still get to call myself a millionaire even if i’m not?

    the intent was there!

  119. annes22 says: Apr 6, 2012 10:07 PM

    Nothing Chris Carter or Michael Irvin say have anything to do with this. Greg Williams should be banned for life, and Coach Peyton and all the rest of his henchman should be banned for the season at least, and maybe longer. The players can wait for their suspensions and fines, and they all deserve whatever is coming.
    New Orleans Saints you “suck” and you should give back the Super Bowl Trophy too.

  120. bleed4philly says: Apr 6, 2012 10:19 PM

    He also said Calvin Johnson wasn’t a top 5 receiver.

  121. erick670 says: Apr 6, 2012 10:26 PM

    IMO saints super bowl title should be stripped well looks like its paper bag time again who dat roger goodell thats who LMAO

  122. autumnwind12 says: Apr 6, 2012 10:35 PM

    i think payton should have been fired. he would have got another shot. but, he should have been fired by the saints, he knew what was going on, he is just as guilty as williams

  123. bigeasyb says: Apr 6, 2012 10:51 PM

    The hypocracy of the entire issue is what bothers me. I cannot believe that all of these former players and coaches are surprised by this. This mentality goes way back all the way to the seventies and maybe earlier. It’s football, and every team is looking for a competitive advantage. The things that Gregg Williams was preaching during the audio is information gathered from the NFL’s injury report which teams by league rules must fully disclose. Here’s my question to the NFL. What in the hell is the injury report for!? Oh wait, I know, not that the NFL will ever admit it but it is for oddsmakers, bookies, and gamblers. Don’t even think about claiming that it is for fantasy footballers. The injury report should consist of Player Name: status in or out. No need for Player, conscussion, probable. That is basically telling the opposing team to hit Player here. How stupid! The New York Giants admitted to using the same tactics as the Saints did on Kyle Williams. If you’re on the field, then you are fair game. It’s football!

  124. musicman495 says: Apr 7, 2012 12:43 AM

    There’s been a surprising disconnect in the way current and former NFL players have reacted to the Williams audio, with some saying it’s typical of the way coaches speak to their teams, and others saying it’s so appalling that it has no business in the NFL. Carter falls in the latter camp.
    ————————————–
    Is it all that surprising? Most of those screaming the loudest are offensive players (Irvin, Carter), most of those not caring are defensive players. Mike Golic, who I believe was Carter’s teammate in Philadelphia, laughed at the Williams tape, and said he had heard 95% of what Williams said in other locker rooms when he was a player.

  125. musicman495 says: Apr 7, 2012 12:45 AM

    bearsstillsuck says: Apr 6, 2012 5:00 PM

    Will somebody please translate this into regular season statistics since that’s the only thing drew brees cares about so he can finally get his explanation?
    —————————————-
    It was not clever the first ten times you posted it.

  126. sportmentary says: Apr 7, 2012 12:46 AM

    Note to Aints fans:
    If what your cheating team and Williams were doing was so part fo the game, why are so many former NFL players so against what they did and say it;s not part of the game? They could have just shut their pieholes if it was true that it was.

  127. musicman495 says: Apr 7, 2012 12:46 AM

    wholelottacrazygoingon says: Apr 6, 2012 5:03 PM

    Remind me again how many players were injured by the Saints between 2009-2011. Where do they stand in unsportsmanlike conduct penalties? Is it the most in the league?

    Williams is an #######, no doubt but his players weren’t playing any dirtier than any other players.

    We just love to get hysterical about everything.
    ———————————————
    Amen.

  128. grannyvi4 says: Apr 7, 2012 1:51 AM

    @gb4mno: “I wish it was legal to hunt vikequeef fans living in WI. We don’t want you wretched sex offending toads living here. Take your inflatable boyfriend and leave………….NOW!”
    ================
    Just…shut…up. Or, here’s a thought: stay on topic for a change!

    You are seriously messed up, freak. Tell your mommy to get you some help……….NOW!

  129. bartpkelly says: Apr 7, 2012 6:55 AM

    All the ex players and current players speaking out because:
    1) It is a terrible thing
    2) If Williams looks extra vile, the players don’t

    so it is almost like torching Williams so that the players get off easier.

  130. 28for20 says: Apr 7, 2012 7:59 AM

    How about PFT bans gb4mn0 for life! Not one intelligent thing has come out of his mouth.

  131. obamareallysucks says: Apr 7, 2012 8:09 AM

    this is what you get from low IQ types like carter, sapp and irvin!

  132. johnsteph1 says: Apr 7, 2012 8:32 AM

    When Chris Carter speaks I just can’t turn it off quick enough. He was an irritating player and a worse sound piece. He is one player I hope never, ever,ever,ever,ever,ever gets to Canton. Certainly a bounty can be put out on him to take him out.

  133. sixjak says: Apr 7, 2012 10:56 AM

    chawk12thman says:
    Apr 6, 2012 5:14 PM
    Notice that:

    Former Plaers for ban = Offense

    Former player saying its normal = Defense

    ________________________

    Yeah I noticed that too. TE Warren Sapp is in that camp as well. Good thing your generalizations are so spot on.

  134. uhnoreally says: Apr 7, 2012 10:58 AM

    I want to see how the NFL handles the “outside money”.

    This was about people and gambling.

    They used the players, coaches greed to do their bidding.

    I suspect the NFL will find no evidence of this.

    The moment the man with the initials “MO”
    popped up – the NFL insiders panicked.

    They know what this is really about.

  135. sixjak says: Apr 7, 2012 11:03 AM

    wholelottacrazygoingon says:
    Apr 6, 2012 5:39 PM
    Bunch of hysterical reactionary people in here. Show me the actual physical harm that was caused by these bounties. Williams can tell his players to go jump over the moon but that doesn’t mean that they went out and jumped over the moon.

    Williams went to far, there is no question about that, and he is paying his pound of flesh.

    Stop being so melodramatic and chill the heck out.

     _____________

    Spoken like a true Saints fan.

  136. rubicon202 says: Apr 7, 2012 1:17 PM

    CC is an idoit, i forgot how much until now. What’s all this “We” gave him our best palyers crap…what ru on the counsel of player distribution? GTFOH CC, get off ur high-horse. Its part of the game, I saw ur ass get tighten up a few times, don’t be mad play better, ooops you don’t anymore, sorry

  137. rajbais says: Apr 7, 2012 1:21 PM

    Well, I’m calling for a lifetime ban for Cris Carter from ESPN!!!!!

  138. bigeasyb says: Apr 7, 2012 8:34 PM

    The sad thing is I don’t believe for a second that this incident is about bounties. I don’t believe for a second that the NFL wanted any of this to get out. The Saints and they’re coaches were punished for outrightly disobeying the NFL and more specifically disrespecting the Commissioner’s office. The NFL knows that this stuff goes on in 31 other locker rooms. The punishments that the players receive will be self evident that this is not about bounties. I don’t believe that NFL gives a damn about player safety. I say that because the NFL was sniffing around in 2009, and 2010 and knew what was going on. Here’s my question to the NFLPA…if the NFL knew that it was going on for the two previous seasons, where is Commissioner Goodell’s fines, penalties and suspension? He (Goodell) keeps saying that Payton is suspended for the season because it happened under his watch. Well, it happened under Goodell’s watch too. I know Carter works for ESPN but don’t believe any of that crap that the former coaches and analysts are saying for NFL Network. NFL Network is an extension of the NFL and with this massive lawsuit being filed, the NFL Network has an agenda to protect the league. It is not at all objective analysis. This bounty stuff happens at the high school and college level as well. It is the culture of American Football. The NFL is going to attempt to change the culture in it’s league and good for them, but don’t think for five seconds that this isn’t going on in your favorite team’s locker room. It will never come out but someone on the 49ers got paid for knocking Pierre Thomas out of the Divisional Playoff game. Clean hit within the rules but someone got paid. The montage they keep playing of vicious hits laid by Saints defenders are all clean hits. It’s football! Do yourself a favor. When the NFL Network airs the “Top 10 Most Feared Tacklers” watch it! Listen to the interviews. This game is not for well adjusted people. It is played and coached by maniacs.

  139. bigeasyb says: Apr 7, 2012 8:37 PM

    Oh by the way, Cris Carter looks like a California Raisin to me. Does he not?

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